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It says he represents the Tanaka clan.

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You don't look like Tanaka. Shidoshi Tanaka trained me.

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What's the whole act? He says Senzo Tanaka is his shidoshi.

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What's the difference if Bruce Springsteen is his shidoshi? If Senzo

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Tanaka is his shidoshi, then show us the dim mak.

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What the hell is a dim mak? Death touch.

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Thanks. Vic, choose a brick.

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Okay, Frank. Uh, what about

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Go!

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4-2-1.

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Whoa,

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yeah! Son of a bitch! Is that good enough, guys?

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We honor your invitation. No shit, you honor his

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invitation.

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It's Two Dads One Movie. It's the podcast where two middle-aged dads sit around and

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shoot the shit. about the movies of the '80s and '90s.

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Here are your hosts, Steve Paulo and Nic Briana.

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Hello everybody, welcome to another episode of 2 Dads 1

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Movie. I'm Steve. And I'm Nic. And today we are talking about the 1988

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Jean-Claude Van Damme action classic Bloodsport.

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And Nic, you brought us Bloodsport. You brought it to the table. What's your history

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with the movie? Oh man, I, I caught this one, uh, around high school,

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my young teens, and I think this got passed around because The

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idea of it was very fun. So this is at the time where we're getting

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into like Mortal Kombat, Street Fighter 2 and stuff. Yeah. And there weren't

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really at that time a ton of movies that were about these multidisciplinary

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fighting competitions. Right. You know, good point. So this one, it really would stimulate your

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imagination just thinking about like the sumo guy going against the guy who just

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hops around like a chimp and like all these different moves that,

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uh, that these guys bring to the table and the different looks and stuff.

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And I thought it was cool. Van Damme was never my favorite action star,

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but There was only so much Arnie and Stallone to go

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around, so you had to start dipping into the Van Dams and the Seagulls

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and the if you really got desperate, you're getting into the Michael Dudikoffs

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and the Jeff Speakmans and stuff like that. But I

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thought this would be a fun one to chat about. I haven't watched it in

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a while, but it's one that most guys our age at

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least understand the reference of, right? The Kumite and the and then Van

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Damme famously like two of his big things are. Doing the splits.

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So how are we gonna fit the splits into the movie? And number 2 is

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kicking only with your right foot at all times. So how are we gonna make

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that happen? And I think they figured it out. So yeah, I'm excited to talk

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about this one. It had been a while, but I was glad to, uh,

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to have rewatched it. How about you, Steve? You've seen this one before? I had

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never seen Bloodsport before this week. It just missed me somehow.

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I think, uh, you know, there was this— I think there were a lot of

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action movies. It's kind of like the Rambo films, movies that like I would incorporate

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elements of it just because my friends would talk about it. And so it ended

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up feeling like I knew the movie before I ever like watched it.

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And I think that this one was interesting in 2 ways because not like Bloodsport.

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So not only did this, this came out 3 years before Street Fighter II

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came out. And so it is impossible to look at Street Fighter

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II and not say, well, that is directly influenced by Bloodsport. Yeah.

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You know, obviously it's not an adaptation of the movie, but like the whole

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concept of a secret underground international street

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fighting mixed martial arts competition with fighters of all these different styles.

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You know, the Guile character is a military— American military. It's clearly Jean-Claude

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Van Damme's, you know, person in this movie. That Frank Dux character is clearly who

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Guile, right, was. And then Johnny Cage in Mortal Kombat had

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a move where he went down into the splits, like directly taken from this.

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Absolutely. And that character— I think Johnny Cage is even more explicitly, this is Jean-Claude

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Van Damme in so many ways, right? But like so much of this movie,

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you know, became Street Fighter II. And so I played, and I played, you know,

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thousands of hours of that over the years. So there's that. And then— Who's your

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preferred character in Street Fighter II? So if we're talking about the original Street Fighter

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II, I was— Let's, yeah. I was mostly a Ken player. Okay. Um,

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and then when we got to the Turbo and Hyper Fighting Championship Edition,

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you could play as the bosses. I became a Vega, uh, guy. So, yeah.

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Oh, 'cause Vega could climb that chain link fence and dive down. But only on

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Vega's level. You could still do the wall bounce off the edge of the screen

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though, where you could kind of like, so yeah, there was that. And I,

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I just, I definitely got, I— there was one summer where I went to like

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a computer camp, basically, uh, on the campus of St. Mary's College,

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and we stayed in the dorm for a week, Greg Nielsen and I. And we—

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there was a, you know, student union with a Street Fighter II arcade machine,

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and there was a point where I stayed on one quarter. I think I beat

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like 8 or 9 people in a row. Nice. Which was definitely still the highlight

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of my entire life. Um, see, I get too— I— it's interesting to

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hear that you're a Ken player because I would get too tied up in the

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guys that had like crazy special features that didn't pay

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off that well, right? So you get like a Blanka where you do that electrocution

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thing, or the Dhalsim where he could like reach super far. He had those

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stretchy arms. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So none of those guys in here, but for

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sure like the basic dudes, like the basic types, I think are very well represented,

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uh, in Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat from this, uh, from this movie.

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Yeah, very clear, very clear reference there. And then most recently I realized I didn't

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know the full references of this movie because in the show The Bear— I don't

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know if you've ever watched it, but it's one of my favorite shows of recent

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years— one of earliest episodes, a bunch of the guys before they've

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like turned the restaurant into a fancy restaurant, they're talking about something and basically

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talk about like, you know, Saint-Matthieu, Saint-Matthieu. And I was kind of like, what the

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hell is that? Like, and they even in the show say something about it's Bloodsport

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or whatever, you know, they make a reference to it. And I go, oh,

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I don't know what that— like, I never heard that thing before. So now obviously

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I do know what that means having watched it. So, but yeah, so this

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is one of those movies that I feel like not having watched it, you still

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get some familiarity with it because of other references it is or other influence it

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has had on popular culture. Yeah, for sure. But by not actually having seen it,

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like, I didn't get that whole picture. So it's kind of filled in all those

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blanks for me, um, which is great. Let's jump

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into the facts. Let's jump into the facts. All right, so the movie Bloodsport was

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released on February 26th, 1988 with an R rating and a running time of 92

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minutes. It was directed by Newt Arnold, written by Sheldon

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Lettich, Christopher Cosby, and Mel Friedman. The film stars Jean-Claude

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Van Damme, Donald Gibb, and Lea Ayers. Uh,

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scores. Rotten Tomatoes, Rotten Tomatoes 48%, so pretty much half and

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half. IMDb 6.8, not particularly good. This was another movie

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like last week's Summer Rental, and yeah, this one I don't have a good reason

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for, I don't know, but it did not get a review from Siskel and Ebert.

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So I don't know if this was one they just chose not to bother with

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or what. I mean, we'll get to it in a minute, but this is a

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very low-budget movie, so it might not have had wide release at the time it

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first came out or something. Entirely possible. Uh, one awards thing that

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I did want to call out here. So in 1989 at the Razzies,

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Jean-Claude Van Damme was nominated but did not win the Worst New

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Star Award. That was won that year by

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Ronald McDonald. The actual McDonald's

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clown mascot was given the award for, quote, playing himself

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in the movie Mac and Me. Oh boy. Which is

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weird, but that's the Razzies. So what do you do? But it's, it's, I looked

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at the list and the only name that was nominated that year that was a

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real person and someone who had a career later on is Jean-Claude Van

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Damme. None of the other people nominated for that made any sense. But anyway,

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no other awards buzz on this movie other than the

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Worst New Star Razzie. On a $1.5 million budget,

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which like— Wow. Very impressive. I mean, look, most of this movie's fight

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choreography. So as long as you're able to pay a choreographer a fairly small amount

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to do reasonably good stuff, that's good. There's not a lot of special effects outside

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of some makeup. There's no— there are no injuries that

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require significant— this is not a John Carpenter movie. Yes. Right? Right.

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Nothing's being ripped off of anyone anything crazy like that. That's all— it's

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all just implied. And there's like 4 sets in the whole movie, basically.

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So it makes sense how you could get it down to $1.5 million. It made

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$63.5 million at the box office, 42 times what

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it cost. So massive successful hit, especially based off of,

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of the, uh, the budget. So yeah, this was a huge hit. There's no,

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no denying that. Yeah, well, uh, let's kick it off,

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Nick. Kick it off in Bloodsport. So, um,

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this kicks off kind of with an opening montage of all these different

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fighters who represent different styles. And, uh, and it shows them kind of training

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and showing their skills. Actually a very cool, like, kind of perfect way to start

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this movie off. Um, and we've got your standard kind of like,

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uh, karate kung fu guys, and we've got your sumo guys,

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we've got your wrestlers. Some guys, their style just seems to be brute

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strength, like it doesn't necessarily matter. There's this really small guy who

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like hops around like a lemur or like this, and,

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and it shows him, he like shimmies up a tree super fast and he's smashing

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coconuts with his fists and stuff. And just such a— yeah,

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like if you're in the writer's room and you're trying to figure out like what's

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a crazy style. But I think a lot of this stuff is real, certain types

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of martial arts. Like capoeira and stuff like that is very odd looking if

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you're, if you're seeing it next to other styles, right? Yeah, because we get a

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Brazilian guy, Paredes is his last name, and he's doing capoeira. And there's like,

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there's, you know, uh, Muay Thai and there's all this stuff. I gotta be honest

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with you though, that African character that runs up into the trees and chops the

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coconuts with his hand and later bounces around the ring like a monkey.

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Kind of the most racist character. The most racist thing I've seen in a long

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time. Yeah, it is really bad. Like, that would not fly today

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whatsoever. You can't do that. You could maybe get away with that style if

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it was any other race of actor. You just cannot do that with a Black

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man. It was, it was a little, it was a little tough. It would have

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been a little rough then. Watching it now for the first time is like,

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are you— you beg your finest fucking pardon? Like, really, we're doing that? I do,

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I do need to find out though, is this based on a real style?

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Like, how true is that? So It could be a thing, but yeah,

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I mean, not knowing that, it is like, yo, it doesn't play well.

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What are we doing here? Um, so,

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uh, so we've got the different montage of, of that

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happening, and then, and then we have, uh, Van Damme, Captain Frank Dukes,

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and he's, he's in the army. Yeah. And, uh,

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they're kind of telling him like, hey, uh, you know, you're about to have a

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break, but we need to talk to you before you go. Well, he's basically said

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because Yeah, a guy comes to him and says like, hey, Captain Dukes, like,

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uh, the colonel needs to see you. He found out you're going to Hong Kong,

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right? He wants to talk to you. And it's clear that like, that's not— like,

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Frank would be in trouble, basically, is the idea. Uh, so Frank, so he,

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he takes off running, right? So he, he just sprints out of the army

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very easily in his uniform, um, and just, you know,

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and by the time they look for him, you know, he's gone. Like, there's not

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much of a chase of, of Frank Dukes there. No, because he ends up,

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uh, at this house, uh, which is, you know, he knocks on the front door

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and, and, and, you know, it's Obviously a place he knows well. An older woman

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answers the door, and like, they embrace. It's clear they know each other. And we

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see this little shrine in the front room. It's got like a katana and like

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its little candles and like stuff. And he stares at that pensively for the

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next 10 minutes while we get a huge flashback to his childhood.

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Yeah. Where a couple friends of his and Frank

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break into this house, this house we're in, and like start playing with the katana

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and the scabbard, and basically, you know, plan to steal

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it, but then don't. His friends leave when people start moving in the house

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and leave him there. and he doesn't jump back out the window. No,

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he's just standing there holding the katana. Which is— he's holding the scabbard. He's not

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even holding the sword. It's like just the scabbard part. But basically, like, a kid

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and an old man come out— not an old man, like a middle-aged man come

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out, and the kid kicks him in the stomach. Turns out this is this family

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that lives there, the dad and the son who live there.

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And they basically— oh, the first thing— hold

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on a second, real quick, because it doesn't actually matter, I have to mention it's

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hilarious to me that young Frank Dux climbs through that window wearing

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outfit pieces from 2 different projects. professional teams called the Giants.

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He's got a New York Giants shirt and a San Francisco Giants hat.

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That is an absolutely on-location telling the props guy,

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get me 2 Giants things. It's crazy. It is so funny

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to me. I just want to talk about, um, about young Frank.

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Oh, and, and at the end of the whole sequence of him

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like trying to steal the sword and the little kid kicks him, and then the

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old guy just slices the brim of his hat off with the sword. For no

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good reason, which is a great move. Young Frank Dux is the

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dopiest looking guy. He has one of those like Eli Manning faces. Oh,

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good. Like just a real kind of whatever. So I just—

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I already can't stand looking at his face. And then when he starts talking,

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it is unbelievably shitty because like you said, uh, before the plot,

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they have to establish that he will end up sounding like Jean-Claude

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Van Damme someday. So the kid has to have this accent.

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And it is an accent. It's something. This— I hate

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this actor, this casting decision. So look, this real human, God bless him.

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I hope he's having a wonderful life far away from cinema. But I want

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to apologize actually to, to the actor Dan

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Futterman, who played Val, the son in the movie The

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Birdcage, because that I thought was the most I could hate a casting

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decision. Young Frank Dux blows it out of the fucking water.

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So yeah, like you said, we're in it like a 10-minute montage of young

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Frank Dukes. And at first he's just kind of like the punching dummy

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for the little kid. Yeah, like he's, he's getting trained in a

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very like lopsided seeming way. Yeah. And, and real quick,

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just on this kid, when, when, when he first jumped through the window,

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I thought to myself, oh, that's young Frank. He's not going to talk at all

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because they never would have gotten to get an actor to sound like he'll end

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up being Jean-Claude Van Damme with that voice. And this character at this

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age is like maybe 13, I want to say, give or take, right?

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If, if he— if his family just relocated from Belgium or France

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or wherever they sound like they're from, right? And I know Van Damme himself is

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Belgian, but like, you know, it's basically like a French accent is what we're hearing,

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right? And both parents have it because the— this, this mentor teacher

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character talks to the parents about martial science and how important it is to

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teach our children. Just like you grow a vine— they must be from France because

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they don't grow a lot of wine in Belgium. So, right, you grow vines,

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I grow children is sort of his thing. Like, you got to use science.

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They let him talk. It was awful. And I also wonder

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if they had relocated to the US at his—

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at that age where, you know, he's under 13 when he relocates, would his accent

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still be as thick as Jean-Claude Van Damme's accent as an adult, having like lived

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in America for that long? It seems unlikely. Like, I get some accents are very,

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you know, they stick with you for a long time. And I've met kids with

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accents, don't get me wrong, but it just felt like weird. They really shouldn't have

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had him talk. It would've been much better if he didn't. Yeah. And I do

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wonder if the actor, if that was his accent or if they were having this

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guy do it. Because it was really, I really feel terrible if that's really

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just what that kid sounded like. But it will also explain why he looks like

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such a dope because they weren't casting the look; they were casting the voice.

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Yeah, and had to go with whatever they got. Yeah, he does not look like

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Van Damme, a young Van Damme in any way whatsoever. Skull shape is completely

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crazy, crazy different. But anyway, we should move off of young Frank

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because he's not worth it. So now, so Tanaka is kind

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of explaining to the the parents that he wants to train Frank.

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Uh, there's a cutscene of them at school. So Frank is obviously in school with

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this, uh, Tanaka's son, who's a younger boy, and he's getting bullied, and Frank steps

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in and in like a very shitty-looking way, like kicks and beats up the

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bullies, right? So he's gaining a little respect, right? I do like one of the

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kids in that scene behind him who's just watching the fight is wearing a Bartles

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and James t-shirt. It looks like a giveaway. It's so bad. I love that

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stuff. It's so funny in the old things where you see someone wearing like a

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Virginia Slims hat. That's a 10-year-old. Um, the fucking

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'80s, man. I don't know. So in this montage, we see

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that, that the son, uh, Mr. Tanaka's actual son who'd been training with Frank over

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these years, dies. Yeah, uh, looks like a military, uh, thing. I think he

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died in the Kumite. I think because it would— we see him talk about going

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to fight Kumite for his dad, and then he doesn't come back. It's kind of

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what it seemed like to me. All right. Yeah, uh, terrible sad

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dad acting. I mean, really unbelievably bad. Yeah. And Tanaka's supposed to be

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this like ancient old man, and he's probably like 41 in real life. It's crazy.

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They never show him with any gray hair, even in present day. when he's like

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on his deathbed. No, not a gray hair in his mustache or his head.

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I will say the choice to give his family background that they were nuked

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in Hiroshima was like, that's a hell of a choice. But he's basically like,

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oh, I was in the war and while I was away, my family, my son

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and my daughter, my wife were killed. They were in Hiroshima. It's like, holy fuck,

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dude. Like, that is brutal. How are you even— how— why would you even

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be in the United States at that point? Seriously, I'd probably pick

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a different place. Anywhere else. Good Lord. Um, so as

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they're— as we're seeing, like, the, the training is kind of stepping up,

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right? So Frank Dux is being, uh, tasked with very Mr.

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Miyagi style things, you know. Um, one of the things Tanaka

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is just reaching into a koi pond and pulling out a fish with his hand.

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Uh, and then they've got him, uh, Frank Dux is in blindfolds. Yeah.

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They're training him on, like, you know, how to work without his eyesight.

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He does the splits a lot. He's being attacked with weapons. Um, so yeah,

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they're really pounding the shit out of this guy. Well, and it's funny because they

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do the koi grab and they do the blindfold stuff and they set all that

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up, and that all does come back. But the funny part is when those things

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come back in the story and become meaningful, they give us a flashback to

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these scenes. We get to see these scenes again just to remind us, remember,

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he grabbed fish out of the koi pond and fought blindfolded. Don't forget that.

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Okay, now let's move on. And it's just like, it's so like holding your hand

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through the plot, which is hilarious because there's very little plot in this movie.

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Absolutely. To begin with. No, this is, this is a series of And

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when he's training, he like— there's a few things I just noticed that are just

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kind of budget and maybe Van Damme's age

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and experience. But it's like, you know, he falls before being hit a couple times

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pretty clearly, where he's reacting to a punch that is still on its way.

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It's a very funny moment when he goes to punch Tanaka. Tanaka just

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does a very simple duck and one step, and Van Damme looks like he

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has seen a ghost or like a man disappeared. He's so surprised. He's so

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surprised that Tanaka's not there anymore, and it's like bro moved at like a reasonably

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good pace. He wasn't even that fast. Yeah, very, very funny.

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He's got Tanaka's got him strung up between these trees.

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Bondage. Each of his extremities is tied to a rope and tied to these

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two trees, and he's being spread apart. And then the thing that Frank

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does to show that he's finally strong enough is he's able to like pull himself

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up, and he pulls so hard that he just like. starts breaking

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the little brackets. Yeah, the cleats pull out of the thing or whatever. I struggled

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with this a bit because at the same— there were 2 thoughts in my head

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at the same time watching this little display, right? One is clearly that requires

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a shit ton of strength. I could never remotely do anything like this. I'm not

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trying to say, look, oh, that's easy. No, it's obviously a clear sign of

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strength. But also, I don't care. Like, why do I care? What's he gonna do

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now? Now you're just tied— you're rope— you're still tied by rope to like this

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other thing. You haven't like broken out. Like, it's just like, why was this the

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exercise? It's just very strange. I mean, I think, I think he had in his

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contract, I do the splits 5 times in this movie for an extended period

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of time. I marked 5. Okay, yeah, um, I was trying to count. Uh,

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so, so at the end of this, this mostly excruciating,

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uh, flashback sequence, yeah, uh, Frank is, is awarded

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his own sword. Yes, right. So he's graduated and everything, and then

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it cuts back to him just like still in that living room like, and he's

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looking at this picture. It's like Why do we do it this way? Yeah,

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it's so— and there were 2 or 3 times during the flashback that we cut

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back to Frank's face just to remind us all, remember, he's a flashback.

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I think it happened right when in the flashback Jean-Claude Van Damme started playing

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Frank, like, because we went from Frank the young kid, and then in

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the flashback we got to where now Frank is a young man, younger than he

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is present day, but it's now him, right? That's when he had his head replacement

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surgery. Exactly, his jaw reconstruction. And so we had to flash forward

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again to like remind us all, hey, he's still standing in that, you know,

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this is not now, this is before. It's this Movie is holding your hand

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through every moment, and it's holding your hand through the simplest plot that has ever

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been put on film. But that's okay; they kind of knew who their audience was,

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and they didn't want anybody asking any questions. I get it. But this is where

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I've noticed really that it was like why is Tanaka not have a single gray

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hair? Did you not have like hair dye in the budget? Old at all?

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He wasn't even acting that old. No, he's just laying down. Yeah, that's it.

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So so now we're in Hong Kong, right?

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We've traveled to Hong Kong for the Kumite. Frank is. Successfully— he

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talked to Tanaka saying, I'm gonna go to the Kumite, you know, be careful,

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whatever, I'm doing it for you, what it is kind of shit. Yeah.

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He meets the other American there, or one of the other Americans, this guy

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Ray Jackson. Yeah, Donald Gibb. Donald Gibb.

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We've seen him in a lot of '80s stuff. Every time I see him,

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no matter what I see him in, I literally— I think my first note,

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one of my first notes in the book for this one was, hey, it's Ogre.

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Yeah, because every time I see him, I think of Ogre from Revenge of the

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Nerds. Yeah, absolutely. And his fighting style is Is

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I drink beer and like motorcycles, and I'm big. His fighting style

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is Hulk smash, I guess. Yeah, technically is like. I looked up

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shit. There was something about his fighting style, and it had this name to it.

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I was like, what? I've never heard of that. Interesting. And basically, the definition of

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the style was whatever, no holds barred. Oh,

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this is this is Fezzik from *The Princess Bride*. Andre the Giant is like

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his way is not very sporting. Like yeah, not sportsmanlike.

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And And he's

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getting like— you're getting some information about the Kumite, like how it works.

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Like they have a handler kind of guy. Yeah, yeah. Who's a really cool looking

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character. I like his— I like him. Kind of mulleted, like half tint glasses,

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tracksuit, gold chain. My kind of guy. Were those glasses prescription?

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Because they were shaped like aviator sunglasses, but they weren't particularly dark. So I guess

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those were just his glasses. Yeah, they were those like half tint. Those are really

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interesting. Yeah, yeah. Uh, big back then, but yeah. Jackson and Frank

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play a video game together briefly in like the hotel bar or something maybe.

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And the thing I noticed about it is it kind of— it didn't look like

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any game I know. It didn't look exactly like any game I remember. Maybe it

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was, or maybe they— I don't know what they did, but there were no buttons.

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They each had 2 joysticks, and it was like one of them must have been

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the kick and punch sort of stuff, and the other one was move and jump,

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I guess. But it was very weird to see them both with, you know,

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each hand on a joystick moving them left, right, up, down, left, right, whatever.

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Yeah. And then it was like, I don't remember any video game like 2

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joysticks. Well, Super Smash TV. Yeah, but that was different. I agree,

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but I'm more like this because the reason Super Smash TV worked is because you

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could shoot in 360 degrees around you, right? It was top-down, so you had to

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be able to shoot every direction. So one stick was the shooter and one was

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you moving, right? That kind of thing. But this is like a side-to-side fighting.

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Leg can go in any direction.

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Yeah, I forgot to look up what game this is. I don't know if it

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was like Karate Champ or just one of those kind of generic things because I

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think it also wasn't in English. And yeah, it's on the screen. Looked like a

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little bit like if you took the old Kung Fu NES game and

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turned it into a PvP kind of fighting game versus like a level

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thing. It kind of looked like that, but it definitely was— it's definitely something else.

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It must, it must have been a Chinese or Japanese game we didn't get here

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or something, maybe. Right. Yeah. Uh, and so Frank and, uh, Ray Jackson are

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playing this. They're kind of very fast friends there. Um, Frank beats

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Ray at it and is like, you want to go again? You know, so they're

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all excited. Uh, meantime, the government is just like a couple steps behind

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Frank, so they're— they've shown up to Tanaka's house And, uh, and the—

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there's 2 agents. I don't know one of the actors. One is Forest Whitaker and

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the other, the other guy, but they're the kind of 2 guys in pursuit of

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Frank Dukes throughout this movie. And it's the classic, uh, when you want to put

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2 officials in something where they're not really meant to be like drivers

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of the plot, but they are meant to be there to sort of like be

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a ticking clock. Yeah. Is that one of them is like young and reckless

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and the other one is old and calm. I feel like that happens. It's basically

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the 48 Hours Yeah, recipe, you know what I mean? For sure. And so Forrest

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Whitaker is always trying to be a little bit more of a hard-ass, kind of

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like whatever. And the old white guy is kind of like, which is another— I

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gotta be honest with you, another racist-coded thing to me in this was the way

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that the, like, the, the older white agent was constantly like correcting

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or like calming down the younger Black man. Yeah, yeah, you're a little too angry

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to do this, or you're too excited about the food. There's a scene where the

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two of them are eating and Forrest Whitaker's like, oh, this stuff is great,

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right? And the other guy's like, oh, I wouldn't touch this stuff. There's a lot

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of racially coded— very enthusiastic. Fantastic. Yeah.

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Um, so we got these guys, uh, kind of coming after them. Yeah.

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They're being led now, uh, and their handler, this guy's

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named Mr. Lin, and he's kind of telling them about the Kumite. It happens once

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every 5 years, and there's no holds barred, and it takes place over 3 days.

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Full contact, just laying out. Yeah, yeah. A blend of styles and all this stuff.

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And, you know, this guy's the champion. Chong Li is the guy who's the champion

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from last year. Um, this,

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this line, like, they are about to enter, like, the, the bowels of this

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area where they're led to the Kumite. And we get a very large, uh,

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man who goes, uh, okay, USA. And then, uh, Ray Jackson

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repeats it. That's like a very, um, you know, common line from this

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movie. But this part— okay, here's something we discussed in a previous episode. Okay.

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When we did the episode on the movie Jacob's Ladder. Okay. There was one of

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these nightmare sequences where he was being led down this hallway. Yeah. And we— and

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with all this really weird gross stuff happening. And we thought maybe that's what

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was used, uh, to inspire the movie Beerfest. That's right. Where they're going down the

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hall. I think the Beer Fest thing is almost one-for-one the Bloodsport trek

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into the Kumite. So I gotta watch Beer Fest again, like, side by

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side with this. But I think it was inspired by this, like, walkthrough and

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all this weird shit they see on the way into the Kumite arena. The funny

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part is, or the interesting thing to me about it, was when they started walking

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through this, I thought, I thought to myself, man, I wonder, was this meant to

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look like Kowloon Walled City? Is that like what this was sort of based off

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of? And I looked it up and no, no, no, that they filmed in Kowloon

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Walled City, which is a— was always a part of Hong Kong that was

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basically an unregulated— there's no law in there. Right. It's absolutely— And they did

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explain that a little bit, right? Yeah. And it's like, this was one of— I

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read this is one of the only Western film productions

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that ever filmed in Kowloon Walled City before it was torn down

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in the mid-'90s. I think the Chinese government tore it down after

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they got Hong Kong back from the UK. And so it's gone

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now. It has been for years. But like, this was an interesting thing. I thought

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to myself, that is such a cool, like, historical artifact sort

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of that they're able to film in that actual place. Yeah. And keep that forever.

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Now the set where the, where the battles took place was not physically

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there. That was on a soundstage. But they filmed those scenes of him walking— any

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scene that was filmed walking down those aisles or whatever, that was all done on

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one day in Kowloon Walled City for real. And so yeah,

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very cool stuff in that sense. Um, one of the only reasons I even know

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what Kowloon Walled City is is that there was a hardcore punk band called Kowloon

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Walled City that I listened to for a while. Oh, nice. And I remember looking

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it up once going, why are they called that? I wonder what this is.

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And like going down a Wikipedia rabbit hole about it. But yeah, so very cool.

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And yeah, maybe you're absolutely right, the You know, the whole Beerfest reference thing is,

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I think, probably a mixture along with just any kind of labyrinthine,

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you know, kind of thing. Definitely could have taken some inspiration from this.

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Yeah. And they get— and I love that bit about the Kowloon Walled City because

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this is a place that in real life conceivably could have actually had something like

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this going on. Yep. Um, almost like a, like a tanker ship,

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like in international waters, but it's on land.

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Yellowstone's zone of death. Yeah. You can't empanel a jury.

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Um, so they get into the Kumite arena and each, uh, each participant,

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I guess, has a physical invitation. Yeah. And then they also

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have to show, like, show you're the guy, like, qualify. Yeah. Show us in some

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way, right? And, uh, and Frank Dux's thing that he does

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is there's these stacks of bricks, you know, like 7, 8 bricks, like 3 stacks

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of them. And, uh, his move is called the Dim Mak, which is like the

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touch of death or something like that, right? Right. And, uh,

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they say, okay, break one of these bricks. And, you know,

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pick a brick, whatever. And they decide he's gonna break the bottom brick. So he

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has to to hit through the top of a stack of bricks without damaging the

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first 6 and just exploding the bottom brick, uh, which he does easily because it's

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easy to do. Like, untouched. The bricks above barely move.

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It turns into like sand. It doesn't—

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it doesn't just slightly crack. Like, it blows the fuck up.

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It's like Walter throwing Donnie off the cliff and blowing it back in the dude's

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face. It is just dust. Like, it's so bad. Ray Jackson is covered

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in brick dust. Exactly.

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And, uh, and now we see, uh, Chong Li, played by the great

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Bolo Yeung, just an enormous, uh, Chinese actor who's

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really like— he's appeared in a lot of martial arts things. And, uh,

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he's like the intimidating guy. And he looks at him and he's not impressed.

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And he goes, brick don't hit back. That's a good— he makes a good point

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though. Yeah, he does. Although it hit Ray Jackson in the face when

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the bits of it started flying around. So, um,

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so now the, the military, uh, pursuit gentlemen,

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Forrest Whitaker and the other guy, are coordinating now with

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like Hong Kong police. Yep. And they're trying to get in with these authorities,

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and the Hong Kong police is kind of doing the,

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doing the like kumite. I don't have no idea what you're talking about. I've never

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heard of that. That's not a real thing. So they're not being like super helpful.

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Yeah, yeah, for sure. But they've agreed at least, like, now they know that Frank

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Dukes is someone that we're looking for here. Quickly about Chong Li, because first of

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all, I think it's funny watching this movie and realizing how much of a direct

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inspiration Street Fighter II took from it and then named a character

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Chun-Li. Yeah, yeah. Right, which is a female character. But like, similarly, the other thing

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is, is that so Bolo Yeung, I believe, is a— was— I don't know if

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he's still alive actually, but a Chinese man. Yeah.

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And Chong Li sounds like a Chinese name, like naming

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conventions, but he is clearly a Korean character because he has the flag

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of South Korea on his headband. So it's like a very weird, like,

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yet another example in my opinion of like this movie just not giving a shit

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about any of that kind of accuracy. We needed one non-white person to review some

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stuff. We're gonna need super accuracy when it comes to like explaining

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how these things work, but when it comes to like that kind of stuff,

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like cultural shit, like who fucking cares? Like it was very dismissive of that because

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I'm watching the whole time going, Chong Li does not sound like a Korean name

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to me. And maybe I look, if Listener, if you are aware

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of why that should sound like a Korean name to me— to me it sounds

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like a Chinese name. It sounds like a made-up name, obviously, but it sounds more

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Chinese in origin. Maybe I'm wrong and I could be corrected, but like, it's weird

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to me that this character was played as a Korean. Yeah, why didn't they just

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make him Chinese? Maybe he killed a Korean guy and took his bandana or something.

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Sure, I guess that's the only— but yeah, it's a good point. Uh, it's a

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little strange. Bolo Yeung, if you're still alive, uh, please hit us up at thisshow@2dads1movie.com.

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That's the number 2 and the number 1. Yeah. Um, there— so there's,

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there's a note that I made here that's kind of in the spirit of like,

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what the fuck here? Okay, so back at the hotel, so there's a reporter here,

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this woman reporter who's here to like learn about the Kumite, right? I gotta,

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I gotta get some info. And she kind of knows where the guys are,

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but nobody's giving her any information. So anyone she mentions it to is like,

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get out of here. So now she's back and she's talking to one of these

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guys who I think in, in a Aside from young Frank Dukes,

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is the worst actor in this movie. And this is the guy who plays the

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character Hussein, which again, they fucked

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this up big time. This guy's real name is not— he's

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in no way like Middle Eastern or Arab at all. And the way that they

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made him Arab is they just put, uh, they put the headgear on him,

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kaftan or whatever it's called, or something. And then, and then like

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when he fights, he doesn't wear it. So like we get this whole scene

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of him showing down against, uh, Van Damme later, and he's not wearing— he's hard

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to recognize. This guy's a terrible actor. His dialogue is so bad. And I

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wrote down with a star on it, you better be good at fucking karate.

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Like, if you're this bad of an actor, you better do some good martial science

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later on because— yeah, uh, because I don't trust it.

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Spoiler alert, did he live up to that for you, Nic? Absolutely not. No,

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no, I don't think he did a move. I agree with you. He was

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there for his acting. He was there to be the guy Frank knocks out

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quickly, right? Wasn't that sort of— yeah. His character's name is Sadiq Hussein.

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They put him in traditional garb of,

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like, the Arab Peninsula, more so than, you know, the Fertile

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Valley, more so than Iraq-Iran kind of thing. Like, there's, like, all kinds of

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inconsistencies here, but it was clear they were going for a Saddam Hussein.

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I mean, 'cause Saddam Hussein was a known quantity in the late '80s, you know?

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I mean, it's not— he hadn't invaded Kuwait yet, but, you know, people would've known

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who he was. Yeah, yeah. So it feels like a direct reference to that,

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but, like, then all of the little details. And I also get the sense that

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we were supposed to accept his existence as an Arab character

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because of the gold tooth. Was that like supposed to be an indicator because he's

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got money? He's got that oil money, I guess. Yeah, so weird. And well,

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I think the, the main reason— back to the racism, uh, the, the main reason

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we can tell that he's an Arab character according to the filmmakers, not according to

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me, is that he is unbelievably disrespectful towards this woman.

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And he's trying to, uh, he's trying to bring

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her like back to his room. He's like, yeah, I'll tell you about the kimchi,

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come with me. Basically doing everything but throwing her over his shoulder

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and walking away with her. Oh my God. Um, so Frank Duke sees this happening.

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He comes up. Clearly, you know, this is, this is Wyatt Earp

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not letting the horse get slapped around. That's right. Right. So Frank Duke sees this

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happening and he says, all right, we're gonna

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do it. We're— I have a challenge for you. You know, you put a quarter

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in your hand, and if I can grab it out of your hand before you

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close your hand, she stays with me. You leave her the hell alone. Right.

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And if I can't grab it, go ahead and take her. Which is— So she's

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like, Like, does she have any say in this? This is a crazy— I

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mean, it's like if my wife is about to get kidnapped and I'm like,

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if I can do a backflip, I've never tried

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it before, but I think— like, what the hell? Uh,

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Genie's screwed if you have to do a backflip, buddy. There's nothing— I'm

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done, dude. Um, so, uh, so of

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course Frank Dukes ends up snatching this quarter. He thinks that

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he didn't snatch the quarter out of his hand because he's Like, and he

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opens his hand and he has, oh, you've replaced it with a different coin,

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right? Yeah, yeah. So, uh, so Frank Dukes, you know, then he wins dinner with

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the girl because it's not just like, hey, I saved— like, she has to give

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you something. You can't just save a person, right? Can't just be altruistic. Like,

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so yeah, so they have dinner together and I think this

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is where she asks him to like help her get into the Kumite,

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right? And he's just like, I can't, like, they're too secretive about it, I can't

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get it in. She later gets in with absolute ease, just walking in with somebody

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and absolutely nothing. And the number of people that end up just walking into the

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audience of this tournament near the end, it's like, wait, why are any of these

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people allowed to be here? Totally. I mean, it is, it is one of these

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events and we'll see it in a minute. But it's one of these events where

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people, which I love, people are just waving cash in the air and

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then exchanging it, you know, at the end of it. It's just weird that they

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threw cash on a dude who lost. The guy gets knocked out and they just

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throw cash at him. I mean, I get it's like a disrespectful looking thing,

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but it is funny that it's like, he lost, guys. Like, don't give him your

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money. He lost. Uh, so we've

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got the Kumite is about to start. Frank Dux is in his hotel room and,

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uh, and Ray Jackson comes in to get him. Frank Dux is doing the splits

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between 2 chairs for a very long period of time.

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And, uh, and Ray Jackson's like, hey man, come on, it's time to go.

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And he's already drinking his beer. He's got, he's got his beer like

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first thing in the morning. Yep. Um,

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again, just, you know, mandatory splits. Yeah, we had to have Uh,

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so we get some explanation about the Kumite. It happens every 5 years.

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It's 3 days. There's 1 winner. There's 3 ways to win: knockout,

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someone can tap out, or you can push them outside of the arena. And it's

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kind of like slanted on 2 sides. Like, it's pretty big. It's not a small

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space. Was it that way the whole time? 'Cause I remember really seeing that in

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the final battle, but I didn't think it was always slanted like that. I would

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imagine that on the faraway shots, it's always like that. But there's probably a

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lot of close-up action shots where they're absolutely not on a slanted thing. Interesting.

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Okay. I just maybe didn't notice. But yeah, that's Yeah, interesting. there was a point

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where I wrote a note down saying like, wait, why is this like— why does

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it look like a really weak skateboard vert ramp now? Yeah, yeah. Because it's just

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like raised on the ends and not— but anyway, but yeah, so we learn a

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lot about it. We see a couple of battles. We get— I think Jackson does

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the title drop and says like, that's why they call it Bloodsport. Exactly right.

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It's like, okay, thanks. Um, when Chong Li does his fight,

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I couldn't tell right away if he'd killed the person that he fought. It looks

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like he didn't because they make a big deal about it when someone does die

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near the end. So I thought— but he almost kind of— they made a point

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to tell people, like, people have died. It doesn't sound like it's the kind of

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thing where it's like all the time people die, or like every year people die,

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but like people have died in the ring. Yes. And so, and then it looks

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like Chong Li maybe kills a dude, like really fucks him up. So at that

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moment, I will tell you something that the, the screenwriters and the director and everybody

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put into my head that they never paid off, and I will never forgive them

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for. Okay. I assumed at that moment Chong Li was going to kill Ray Jackson.

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Yeah. That's at that point when Chong Li almost kills

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the first person we see him fight, right? And you've made it clear to us

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that people have died. Mine— I am now expecting for Jackson to be killed so

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that Frank has someone to avenge, right? We're plugging the stakes into the formula,

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and that's exactly what would happen. Chekhov's dead best friend. Yes.

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Um, and,

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and Chong Li— so he, you know, he ends up, uh,

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he ends up— oh, Ray Jackson went against like the least scary guy I've ever

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seen and just like punched him in the face immediately. And then he turns to

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Chong Li For no reason other than Chong Li's the defending champion, he's like,

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"I'm gonna kill you, man." So especially that's

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what I think when I wrote it down. That happens. Chong Li comes in,

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and then it's a world record win. So world record time. It's amazing.

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People are going, "Chong Li, Chong Li," and when he's

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like responding to it, he's moving his arms at the weirdest like intervals.

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Like it's not going along with the chant at all. I don't understand it.

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It's like they told him. Raise your fists in the air in victory, and he

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had never seen anyone do that. Yeah. So he was like guessing what they

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meant, and nobody corrected him because he's Bolo Yeung and he's enormous. Yeah. Um,

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um, so Frank Dux comes in, and he comes in against Hussein, who you know

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the bad actor. We're gonna see some awesome martial science from him.

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And of course, he doesn't even throw a single move; gets

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knocked out by Frank Dux immediately. And then Frank Dux has the new record.

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Yes, that's right. And now this could be a hashtag

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because I feel like it's come up a couple times. Yeah, so Hussein's gold tooth

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is now on the mat, and the kid who comes up to like wipe the

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blood off the mat between things gets a very greedy, mischievous look on

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his face and picks up the tooth. And of course you got to chomp into

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that because it just came out of this sicko's mouth. That's so weird.

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But like, are you specifically talking about losing a gold tooth or the biting

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on something to test if it's real? Because those are 2 different things that happen

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a lot. Those should both probably happen because I'm thinking about the Home Alone gold

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tooth. That's the first I thought of. Yeah, right. And I feel like there's another

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one, uh, in there, but yeah. Funny end to the character, but also

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like, what a useless, unimpressive. Like the we've had three

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very quick, almost like a single strike knockouts here, right? But I

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do. I will say in the defense of that choice, because I I kind of

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I kind of I see what you're saying, and and I do think especially as

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a first time viewer, I was like, man, I thought these battles would be these

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fights would be like more to them kind of thing. The fact that the movie

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does give us in later scenes much more involved bouts,

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it's like oh no, these are we're trying to set here that not everybody in

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this tournament is really up to Jackson and. Frank and

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Chong Li's talent level. There are others. Paco is a character that

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does a bunch of ass whooping, and there's a couple of other Asian characters that

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really do great stuff. So there's like a— we're getting this idea that there's this,

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you know, subset within the fighters of like, well, these are the particularly good ones.

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So like later when Frank has to fight Paco after we see him whoop somebody's

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ass, it's like, oh, there's an— there's actual danger here. Like this is not some

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idiot like Hossein. This is somebody Frank actually has to fight. So I do enjoy

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that they're giving us scrubs out of the way here. Scrubs out of the way.

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Show You know, don't just tell us, show us that Chong Li and Frank and

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Ray Jackson can really just whoop ass. They are a level above some

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of these guys. Yeah, so that it raises the stakes appropriately. So I'm okay with

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these first ones being quick because most of this movie is fight

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scenes. Yeah, and most of them are more involved and have more action.

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So that's fair. Yeah, that's fair. And then, you know, right after this last

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fight of Duke's against Hussein, we get a pretty good montage just showing kind

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of the first day of action. Good clashes of styles. There's like there's

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Chong Li, then there's this other like really big tall kind of sumo guy

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whose move is snapping somebody over his knee, which wow

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that brutal oh looks very very rough. And this is the

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Kumite song, I believe, right? During this sequence survive. Yeah, so this was

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Stan. What's the guy's name? Stan Bush. Stan love Stan Bush. Oh, we are Stan

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Bush stans. Yes, exactly. I think The Touch is one of the best

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eighties eighties songs ever, man. I think Stan Bush stan is the country that Hussein

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was supposed to be. From. And that's Stan Bush then. Um,

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yeah, so we got a good, a good montage.

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Um, and the, the military guys have,

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have located Frank. Yes. Right, so he's kind of back at his hotel

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and they found him and they're, you know, we're gonna— we're taking you back.

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And they point their tasers at him and he goes and takes off, right?

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So we get kind of a chase through the streets. Those tasers, by the way,

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they look like dust blasters. They're crazy looking. Like just absolutely enormous.

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And I know it's like it's 1988, but they're enormous. Yeah. And yeah, they look

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like those yeah those dustbusters that you would attach to the wall. Yes. Before when

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you had to take the battery off for them. Do you think they charge like

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that? Yeah. Where they plug into the wall? Hundred percent. They're hooked on. Take off

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your taser off the wall on the way out. Yeah. Make sure you grab something

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from the taser wall, guys. Don't don't forget your tasers. So crazy. So we

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get a little chase through the streets. Yeah. Um, and it's good. I mean,

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just kind of very lighthearted, like goofy stuff. Keystone cops,

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dude. It's so bad. This whole chase. Well, I mean, that's kind of the idea

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of it though. But like there opportunities. for probably more action and more,

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uh, jokes. But again, dude, a million and a half budget. Like, they did focus

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it in one place here. That's true. And, and it's just— but to some of

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the, like, ways in which Dukes is escaping, like running around the side

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of a car, like peeking over things, and just like, like at one point they're

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running through a really narrow alley and he stops and turns

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around and they are like on top of him to the point that when he

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then turns to run towards the camera again, both of the pursuing actors

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have to pretend to stumble in order to not end up

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on top of him because he waited way too long to do it. And it's

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little things like that where I'm like, man, this just makes it— it's sort of

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like when there's the fight choreography and Van Damme reacts to a punch that hasn't

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even come yet. It's kind of like, yeah, this is like the one thing that's

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actually good at. Yeah, this is the one thing this movie should be good at.

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It's like fight choreography, like chase action stuff. And it kind of— this chase left

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me wanting. So, so it ends with the The pursuers end up

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like falling off one of these boats, right? So Frank is like, "Oh, see you

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later." And of course has to get their attention and like salute them or whatever

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before just leaving. It's like, and he told them, "Look, I'll come back with you,

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but the airplane—the plane—the plane ride's in two days. I gotta finish this tournament." Yeah,

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like I'm not coming back now, but I'll meet you at the airport in two

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days. Like he's trying to be like reasonable-ish, right? Because they—I mean realistically,

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unless this is an illegal thing and you could say any U.S. citizen could be

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arrested for doing this thing, I don't know what grounds the military has when he's

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on his time off. off to prevent him from this. But hey, as we know,

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uh, we'll get to— Frank Dukes is very decorated, very valuable member of the

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armed forces. We have to get into that. Um, he, uh, Frank now is having

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his dinner date with the reporter. Yep. And, um,

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sleeps over. And the day before a fight-to-the-death,

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no-holds-barred tournament, maybe I'm just gonna try to pop in a Hungry-Man

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and get to bed early. Like, yeah, he's, he's up, he's humping all night

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and doing the splits and And I mean, uh, again, another scene,

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uh, has to show him getting dressed in the morning, and we get the glutes.

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They could have shown the camera after he pulled his pants up,

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but we got a full-ass scene. Yep. Again, definitely in his contract

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for sure. Oh yeah. So then she asks him again, you know, can you get

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me in? And he's like, no, I really can't. I'm sorry. Like, I'm so sorry.

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So then he arrives at the Kumite, and she shows up

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with some rich Asian guy. She's just there. You just dress like Vanna

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White, they let you in. Yeah, exactly. It's very Vanna White, very evening gown.

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And she's like, she didn't try that first. It's like, oh, instead of getting almost

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like kidnapped and assaulted by all these professional punchers,

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right? Like, you could have just put earrings on and gotten in there. She also

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says something to him as she sees Frank. She says like, it's not the first

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time I had to go undercover to get a story. And it's like, so wait,

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are you telling me that if Frank had brought you, you would have just told

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everyone there, I'm a journalist, Frank brought me? You both would

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have been killed. Yeah, yeah, you would have had to go undercover anyway. If you

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could have just been an undercover fake call girl for some rich business, why didn't

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you do that first? Yeah, it's like, I don't know, but it's— she did— no

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time has passed. Like, he leaves and she is there within minutes of him arriving.

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Yeah, so no time. So she must have had this in her back pocket,

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I guess. But she is— She was as close to him walking into the Kumite

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as the cops were chasing him down the alley a minute ago. Exactly.

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Um, so again, we've got another decent, uh,

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montage here, and Uh, Chong Li, at one

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point he breaks somebody's leg, you know, compound fracture. That's a really rough one.

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That's like the one kind of major special effect, I think, in the movie.

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Kind of the only real injury. Um, and we kind of see a

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continued accumulation of blood on the mat. Yeah, it's getting wiped off, but it's definitely

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getting stained. So this is kind of showing us what's going around. Uh, we get

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the sumo guy against the, the hopping around, uh, racist caricature

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guy. One thing I would like, uh, during this whole sequence

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is maybe just a quick flash to like the Yeah, you know, you never really

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see that. I think that the logic of the way these fights actually are,

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the bracket would have been too tough to do. They didn't have enough guys to

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work with. It would have been a level of detail that, while it would have

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been kind of nice to see, like in Karate Kid, right, where they're moving the

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placard names around and stuff, it is a level of detail that this movie has

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not put into any other parts of its plot. So it really would have kind

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of been a lot of work, I think, to get it quite right. Well,

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the guy had matching Giants gear on at the beginning of it. Amazing. I just

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love it because there's not a single person on the planet that I could think

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of who would be a fan of both the New York and San Francisco Giants.

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Like, what would have had to happen in your life that that was your

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2 teams? Yeah, I have no idea.

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It's like you're both members of The Parent Trap, that we're both twins.

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Yeah, Parent Trap at once.

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So Frank Dux ends up against the big sumo guy and

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he takes him out. One of the things that Frank,

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you know, it established he was doing this Like this touch of death punch

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where he's breaking the bottom brick. So he does that exact punch

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to this guy's stomach. Yeah, but because he's a big fat evil guy,

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he just goes ha ha ha ha ha ha. And then,

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but Frank ends up taking him out. He does that's the splits to the nut

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punch, isn't it? With an uppercut. Like good God, that's brutal.

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I feel like that should get your back turned. Like people should turn their back

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on you for that move. That is like that is like Dalton with

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the throat rip, right? That is like the good character is now a little less

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good. Because we've seen this move. Yes,

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exactly. Uh, yeah, so he nut punches him and then just kind of shoves

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his forehead and like knocks him over. Um, Chong Li,

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uh, goes up against Ray Jackson here, which again, I'm expecting Ray to not survive

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this bout at this point watching it. That's what I expect. So Ray gets a

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couple good punches in, whatever, and like knocks Chong Li down, but immediately turns his

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back on him and starts celebrating. And it's like, bro, like, you can't— like,

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what are you doing? We saw this in Game of Thrones. I mean, this is

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the thing. This is the Viper, right? You don't do this. Sand Viper. Yeah,

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yeah, yeah. Uh, yeah, so he's, he's chanting, he's like, yeah,

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yeah, yeah! And Chong Li gets back up and,

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uh, and he starts fighting back, and he is really like pounding on Ray

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while he's down. Like you said, we're, we're bracing ourselves for a character who's like,

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yeah, we like him, but he's— it's fine if he dies in the scam,

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in the scheme of this movie. If he existed to be the one who dies

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to give Frank the last boost of like revenge he needs,

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it would have made perfect sense. I would have— I was totally prepared for that.

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And he does get badly injured. And even, I've got to tell you,

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they cut to Frank running onto the Mack, and people are trying to hold him

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back. You can't do that. But he's gonna make it, whatever. And Chong Li's still

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got the bandana, the Harley-Davidson bandana that Jackson was wearing, and he keeps it,

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you know. That's a very thing. But it really looked like, you know, if he

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dies, he dies, that kind of moment. And then we cut to Jackson awake

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and in the hospital. He's got a bandage on his head, but he's like fine,

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basically. He could have at least been in a coma or something. He was not.

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Yeah, it's like, give us a chance he might die. Yes. And let that drive

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Frank. Right. No, he's fine. Yeah, so very weird. So during this scene,

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it's really funny. They're visiting, um, they're visiting Ray in the

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hospital, uh, Frank and the, the reporter. And I keep forgetting her name, but honestly,

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I don't think that the writers wrote her a name. Um,

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so as they're doing this and they're talking to Ray Jackson, he's being examined by

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a doctor who is just moving the stethoscope like a couple inches at

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a time on his chest every couple seconds for like 2 minutes straight.

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Like they couldn't just be like, hey, at some point the doctor would be done

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with this and he'd let you on. Like it's important to know that Ray is

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getting checked by a doctor here. So strange. He didn't need the doctor did not

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need to be there in the scene. We see him like hooked up to stuff.

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He's in a hospital bed. Like that's really all the doctor is doing the same

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work. Yeah. From a storytelling perspective, you know, it's like it's not necessary.

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Yeah. So but Frank's he's determined. I'm going back for the final day

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of the Kumite. I'm gonna win this thing. Oh, Janice. Dennis is the, uh,

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the reporter. Oh, okay. Um, yeah, so she's, she's pissed

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off, right? And this is, uh, and so then, yeah, she's like, are you crazy?

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Like, you can't do this. Like, you got it. He's like, oh, it's for honor.

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You wouldn't understand. Like, or whatever. And it's weird because like he's doing it supposedly

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to avenge a death, but then he also says,

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I want to be the first, uh, like American or the first outsider

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to win or something like that. I don't know. I don't know if he's— if

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he— somebody did mention that he would be the first American. I can't remember.

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Did he say that, that that was part of his things? I remember him saying

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stuff about wanting to Tanaka, his mentor,

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more than anything. Like, that being the driving thing. But yeah, at some point we

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do hear that, like, if you— because I think Lin tells him, if you,

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you could be the first American to win this. No American's ever won it or

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something like that. But I don't— can't remember if that was like something fresh or

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not driving him or not. But anyway, but there's that. So he heads back to

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Kowloon Walled City to, to go to the last day of the thing, even though,

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yeah, Janice or whatever is like screaming at him not to. Like, you know,

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you'll— if you die, is it worth it kind of thing, right? And she goes

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to snitch on him. on him. That's right. She goes and she tells— so she

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goes for the Hong Kong cops, right, who are in touch with the military guys.

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So, you know, now that's on her— his radar, and she just wants them to

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shut down the, uh, the Kumite, to stop it. Yeah, exactly. So they—

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so he goes there and meets the 2, you know, whatever military—

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I don't know if they're MPs, what the hell they are, some kind of,

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you know, detectives or whatever. Yeah, Forrest Whitaker and his buddy. And so they're there

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and they've got the stun guns. Oh, before this, real quick, because,

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um, Frank is having kind of Like,

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uh, there's a montage. Oh, that's right. Where he's, he's like—

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More flashbacks or something? Yeah, he's kind of like thinking about the upcoming fight and

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he's having flashbacks, but all the flashbacks are just exact shots that have

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already been in the movie of like Chong Li, you know, being like,

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ho ho ho, or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Rei getting hit and he's like

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hallucinating about Chong Li and stuff. And then he's up like

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at the top of the tallest building in the city doing the splits like,

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like a gargoyle just over the city. Some kind of temple or something. Yeah,

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very interesting looking building, but another, another contractually, uh,

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obligated split. Um, so yeah, now that— now the

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cops are kind of after Frank, like, on the— in the Kowloon Walled City on

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the way in. Exactly. And they've got their stun guns, and then I think he

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grabs like a trash can lid, and the stun gun

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little barbs not only deflect off of that when they try to shoot him,

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they like hit some of the Hong Kong cops, and then he's able to run

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away. Something like that. This is the, the biggest like

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give up of the whole movie. So these guys have, have traveled to

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Hong Kong to chase him down to make sure that he's secured. He's a military

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asset at the very least, if not like an international criminal depending

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on what they're going after him for, right? They do keep talking about wanting to

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protect him, that the military is invested a lot in him. If he gets hurt,

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that's bad for them. That's kind of the angle they've been taking. That's right.

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It's like, like, uh, Colonel Trautman wouldn't want Rambo to do one of these

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tournaments, right? Exactly. Yep. Um, so then when they go after Frank

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and he deflects the taser And you— and the Hong Kong cop get hit by

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the tasers and are immediately like, yeah, we're not part of this anymore.

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And then the— Fuck all y'all. The main— one

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of the, uh, one of the military guys is like, okay, Frank,

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you win, but it's wrong what you're doing. And then that's just fucking it for

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those guys for now. So he ends up— he ends up,

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uh, running in, and he barely, uh, he barely makes it on time to the

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Kumite. Yeah, yeah. Uh, one of the organizers, maybe one of the guys who's running

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the gambling Looks like he's bribing one of the officials to

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let Frank in, and the guy's like, "Okay, he can get in." And then he

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reaches back in and steals the money back that he tried to bribe him.

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He was asking him to like wait. He was like, "Give him five more minutes,"

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whatever. And then as he puts the money in the pocket, Frank shows up,

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so he pulls it right back out. Like, "Oh look, he's here. It's all good.

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Don't need to worry about it." So yeah. So now Frank

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has to fight Paco, which is one of the fighters we saw do rather well

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earlier in the tournament. He's been around. Paco, I don't know the name of the

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actor. He is in the movie Stone Cold with Brian Bosworth. He's one

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of the kind of sub-boss bad guys in it. So yeah, nice. He's He's been

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among stars before. Botsworth is the loftiest

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of stars, really. That is, that is high. Paco does the thing where

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he tries to do like the handshake fist bump at the beginning but then does

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a cheap shot. So immediately like turns the table. It's so funny

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that a guy who like we've been shown he's skilled, he's doing well,

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like why would he do that at the very beginning? Very strange. Uh, but then

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there's a scene where it— there's just like 60 mutual side kicks going back

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and forth. They're both like booting each other and not even defending them,

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just taking the shots in the ribs over and over again. Hey, right in my

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kidney— kidneys, hardest part of my— part of my body.

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Um, yeah, so Dux ends up winning with a spin kick. This is

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where we, we start getting some Van Damme really showcasing here, for sure.

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Um, Chong Li, uh, Chong Li ends up fighting,

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right? And he of course, uh,

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takes this guy out very easily. and is kind of holding him down,

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like doing the, like, should I— what should I do? Should I finish him off?

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And then punches him in the face in a way that, you know, it's indicated

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to us, like, that guy's dead. They come and check his pulse and everything.

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That's right, he's dead. So Chong Li killed his opponent holding the hand in front

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of the nose first to see if he could feel any air and then checking

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the pulse, because the air thing is much, much more reliable. So,

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um, the punch that Chong Li— it kind of looked weak.

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Again, budget limitations. It's a weird angle. Yeah, there's a way to make

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that look better. Uh, you just need an actor who's willing to actually get punched

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by a giant Chinese bodybuilder. Yeah, even, even pulling a punch,

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that would hurt from, from Bolo Yeung. Yeah. Um, so yeah, so now we're gonna

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have Frank versus Chong Li for the finals. At this point, I believe the detectives

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are in the audience, the journalist is in the audience, like everybody's—

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I think even maybe the captain of the Hong Kong PD stayed with them.

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I can't remember if he was there or not. Yeah, but like they're all just

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hanging out. Like, I thought this was secret. This is, this is the Blues Brothers

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final con— uh, concert at the Palace Hotel ballroom where like all the cops and

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the SWAT team Are all watching them do Sweet Home Chicago.

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So yeah, and and the elders after Chong Li killed this

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other fighter, the kind of people in charge of it like stand up and very

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you know emphatically like turn their backs on solemnly. Yeah yeah because and then you

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went too far. Yeah yeah like this isn't what this is about. It's not actually

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precisely what it's about. Yeah it's not actually against the rules. You could actually outlaw

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it and say hey if you kill somebody you're disqualified. You could make a rule

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but they didn't so you really shouldn't get mad. Before the

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fight between Chong Li and Frank, the, the, the, the trainer

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for Chong Li, or his whatever manager or something, slips something into his waistband that

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looks like a Rolaids or a Tums or something like that. It's for his ulcer.

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Yeah, it's for his ulcer. It's very strange. Getting kicked in the stomach 100 times

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in a row gave me an ulcer. But yeah, so, so he slides something

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in so we know something's up. And then Chong Li is wearing Ray Jackson's Harley-Davidson

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bandana on his leg. That's right. Again, I don't know why he didn't just replace

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his main one. Well, he's got to have the Korean flag so we can know

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that he's bigger, that he's Korean. Yeah, Chong Li. We got to make sure we

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know he's Korean. So, um, but yeah, and actually that, that punches a hole in

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the maybe he took it off a guy he killed or beat thing because he

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would have replaced it with the new one if that was the case, right?

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So yeah, I think that was his freshest kill on the head. Yeah, and then

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you go down the body. You'd think, you'd think. Um, Bolo Yeung, I, I love

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his presence. I love that he exists. Uh, all of his lines suck so bad

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in this. So he's not an actor, like, like, God bless him, but he is

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a strongman, a bodybuilder. Yeah, not an actor. His kind of, uh,

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his kind of Ivan Drago type line here is,

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you break my record, now I break you like I break your friend.

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Like, you gotta, you gotta tighten that up a little bit. I don't know,

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that's compelling. Oh, you break my record, now I break you.

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Cool. Or I'll break you like I break your friend. Yeah, cool.

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Okay, I could see how tightening it up might have been better, but I really

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think you're just being way too hard on him. Should we have added more to

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it? It's— no, it's really, it's really just so good. I can't believe you're nitpicking

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this. This, this wonderful— look, we've had so many, uh, mutual 5-star

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movies, I gotta make sure there's something to pick on about. We gotta make sure

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we really get— dig into everything because this could be one of those.

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Uh, the, the Frank Chong Li fight is pretty entertaining.

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It's good. It's a good fight. Again, this is like the best example of

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Jean-Claude Van Damme only kicks with his right leg. I didn't notice that, but now

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I gotta go back and watch it. Yeah, go back and watch it. Uh,

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every kick he does He does these kicks that I would describe as like foot

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slaps. Like, he's— it's almost like he's slapping him like an old woman would with

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like a white glove, like across the face. Uh, he hits him

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with the world's most telegraphed jump kick to the face. Like, this is all haymakers,

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this fight. Yes, it's definitely not like little jabs and strategy.

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It's like an NBA game that's all dunks. It's NBA Jam.

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Yeah, it's one— dude, totally NBA Jam. Uh,

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maybe this movie inspired NBA Jam too. Might have.

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He kicks Frank at one point. Chong Li comes up from behind

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him and Frank kicks behind his shoulder,

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which is like— it's like if a pirate had

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a parrot on his shoulder, it would be him kicking his own parrot off his

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own shoulder, right? Like that angle. Like, that's where the guy's face was.

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I feel like we saw a movie where this happens in a clearly comically

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incorrect way. Like, I was like, one of the— it was like Naked Gun or

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Airplane or somebody does something like this where like they essentially would've had to fold

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in half for this to happen. Yep. I think it was Airplane. I feel like

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somebody gets crunched in the bed, or I don't remember exactly what it was.

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Some movie where somebody, yeah, like gets that compressed

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and yet he— we're supposed to believe, and of course we'll only see him from

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his chest up, so we don't see the rest of his body, but we're supposed

59:02.360 --> 59:05.920
to believe that that foot, which I think would've been his left actually,

59:06.000 --> 59:09.740
but goes up. Yeah, that's true. In that scene. Yeah. And completely, yeah. Like I

59:10.240 --> 59:13.060
just don't even understand physically how that would happen. Yeah. I don't even understand how

59:13.560 --> 59:15.140
your hip rotates to make that happen. It doesn't is the key. But even,

59:17.012 --> 59:19.420
Even if he got it right, because of like the shin hitting his own body,

59:19.436 --> 59:22.230
like maybe the toe just tapped the dude's nose. Like it would have had to

59:22.730 --> 59:26.550
be real close. It was like really very strange, right? You're giving yourself

59:26.582 --> 59:29.825
an incredibly hard kick in the shoulder to maybe graze the guy behind

59:29.857 --> 59:32.507
you. Let me break my collarbone to see if I can tickle the nose of

59:33.007 --> 59:36.505
my opponent. That's the move here. But that was a big

59:37.005 --> 59:40.615
move. And now Chong Li is down. Yeah. Uh, and he's obviously at a disadvantage,

59:40.696 --> 59:44.196
so he reaches in for the 2 Rolaids that were in his, uh, given to

59:44.696 --> 59:47.920
him by his trainer. Crushes them and then throws like an incredible amount of

59:48.420 --> 59:52.160
powder for those 2 little pills. Oh, it was very, very, very, uh, complete crushing.

59:52.250 --> 59:55.060
Yeah, yeah, it was very good. And it— yeah, and the sweat on his hand

59:55.560 --> 59:57.940
didn't make it tasty or anything, just perfectly. So I don't know if they were

59:58.440 --> 01:00:01.020
just supposed to be chalk discs or something. I guess the way I read it

01:00:01.520 --> 01:00:04.620
described was like salt tablets or something. I don't know.

01:00:05.120 --> 01:00:06.860
I mean, that would hurt. Used to happen in pro wrestling, right, where they have

01:00:07.360 --> 01:00:10.900
the guy— and again, it would always be like a Japanese guy, sneaky Japanese guy

01:00:11.400 --> 01:00:15.546
who's throwing salt in someone's face to blind them. Glitter. He's Korean, Japanese, and Chinese

01:00:15.659 --> 01:00:19.025
in this. It's about par for the course for Bloodsport's cultural awareness.

01:00:19.938 --> 01:00:23.448
Uh, yeah. And he's— so now Frank Dux

01:00:23.948 --> 01:00:27.539
is blind, and again, no, no ref. Oh, we, we forgot to do the no

01:00:27.620 --> 01:00:31.024
blinding anybody with foreign objects, uh, rule. Like,

01:00:31.346 --> 01:00:35.098
damn it, we blew it. Yeah. And he is just giving the

01:00:35.598 --> 01:00:38.923
most agonized slow-motion scream as Frank's looking around

01:00:39.423 --> 01:00:42.744
realizing that he can't see. Very incompetent at the beginning at

01:00:43.244 --> 01:00:46.654
being a blind guy. He's freaking out. Well, and, and here's the problem, then they

01:00:46.766 --> 01:00:50.933
keep cutting to what we're supposed to believe is Frank's vision, and it's not.

01:00:51.013 --> 01:00:54.618
He can't see. It's just blurry. Like, you still could look

01:00:54.699 --> 01:00:57.791
at the fucking opponent and see him coming. This is not—

01:00:57.823 --> 01:01:00.836
you are not in the dark. Like, it's very odd choice. They shouldn't have done

01:01:00.964 --> 01:01:03.160
that, you know what I mean? Like, I feel like either don't do that or

01:01:03.272 --> 01:01:07.342
make it— or do that just at the beginning and

01:01:07.842 --> 01:01:09.220
show it deteriorating, right? Yeah, show it fade to black and then we go,

01:01:09.720 --> 01:01:11.500
oh, he can't see anything. The way they did it, it's like, oh, he can

01:01:12.000 --> 01:01:14.720
actually see shapes and colors and movement. Like, why wouldn't he just keep fighting?

01:01:15.220 --> 01:01:17.900
I get that it's a disadvantage, I'm not wrong, but they make it seem like

01:01:18.400 --> 01:01:21.739
when we're looking at him, it looks like, yeah, he's completely blind and reacting only

01:01:22.239 --> 01:01:25.080
to the Force or what the fuck ever, right? But when we get the vision,

01:01:25.580 --> 01:01:29.100
the shot from his vision, it's like, yeah, it's blurry,

01:01:29.600 --> 01:01:32.760
it's impaired. You still just have to kick like a human-sized thing, so it's

01:01:33.260 --> 01:01:36.863
not like, yeah, you're not playing darts. Right, exactly. Yes, this is not a precision

01:01:37.360 --> 01:01:41.319
job here. Like, yeah. Um, so he's flashing

01:01:41.383 --> 01:01:44.814
back now to his blindness training that he had with, with Tanaka.

01:01:44.878 --> 01:01:47.570
We gotta be reminded. Yeah. That he did that. Oh, hey, remember,

01:01:47.875 --> 01:01:51.401
remember an hour and 10 minutes ago, um, when I

01:01:51.901 --> 01:01:54.816
was serving a full English tea to this family, like, with,

01:01:55.008 --> 01:01:58.422
with a blindfold on? And he's, and he's flashing back to this.

01:01:58.534 --> 01:02:01.820
So of course, when he remembers his training, which is the main thing that

01:02:02.320 --> 01:02:06.203
we need to do, Yeah, is he's able to start doing it right.

01:02:06.460 --> 01:02:09.351
Blocks a kick immediately, turns it around,

01:02:09.367 --> 01:02:13.945
starts fighting back. Now Chong Li does a, does a very WWE,

01:02:14.025 --> 01:02:17.462
WWF style move where he grabs the referee. Oh yeah,

01:02:17.542 --> 01:02:20.867
throws him in between him and Frank, and Frank has to like grab him and

01:02:21.076 --> 01:02:23.902
feel him for a minute, right? And then let him go, like, okay, you're okay.

01:02:24.127 --> 01:02:27.886
And like, like defends him momentarily. Yeah, sort of puts him behind himself,

01:02:27.902 --> 01:02:30.742
which is like partly get out of my way, But like the ref doesn't step

01:02:31.242 --> 01:02:34.189
away from him at all. He just stays right there. That ref is asking to

01:02:34.689 --> 01:02:38.263
get really hit. And also, if I felt a gi when I'm going against

01:02:38.763 --> 01:02:42.208
a shirtless guy, I would be pretty quick, like, cool, I'm good, instead of

01:02:42.708 --> 01:02:46.008
like investigating him. There's nothing to grab on Bolo Yeung

01:02:46.104 --> 01:02:48.350
at this point. He has no shirt on. You wouldn't be grabbing anything. Yeah,

01:02:48.430 --> 01:02:52.262
yeah, yeah. Um, so we got a lot of slow-motion dodges

01:02:52.375 --> 01:02:56.276
here, and Frank is, is using his blind training and And getting

01:02:56.292 --> 01:02:59.209
out of the way, and he's able to turn the tables here on Chang Lee.

01:03:00.739 --> 01:03:04.205
He puts him in a hold, and he gets Chang Lee to say the the

01:03:04.705 --> 01:03:08.288
tap out words. Mate, mate. Yep. And and

01:03:08.562 --> 01:03:12.065
that is it. Well, I mean, this it for that fight.

01:03:12.113 --> 01:03:15.220
Yeah, it's absolutely right. So Frank wins. He is the champion. He's the first American

01:03:15.397 --> 01:03:18.483
champion of the Kumite. I believe he's given a sword as well, right? Isn't that?

01:03:18.531 --> 01:03:21.620
Yeah, which is never getting through TSA on his way home. Well, they'd. There was

01:03:22.120 --> 01:03:25.260
no TSA back then. Uh, but you know, it's— we

01:03:25.760 --> 01:03:28.240
then have to cut back to the hospital room to Jackson because he's telling him

01:03:28.740 --> 01:03:32.060
how he won and, and, you know, all this stuff. And, and they get their

01:03:32.560 --> 01:03:35.560
whole, you know, anytime you ever need me, I'm there, brother,

01:03:36.060 --> 01:03:39.240
like kind of, you know, moment. So we know, okay, they're lifelong friends. That's cool.

01:03:39.740 --> 01:03:43.160
Um, but then he asked, you know, did you beat him? And, and the journalist

01:03:43.660 --> 01:03:46.360
gets to say— Janice, or whatever— she's like, oh, even better, he made him say

01:03:46.860 --> 01:03:50.620
mate. She's just so— a moment ago she wanted this whole thing done

01:03:51.120 --> 01:03:54.431
away with, but now Frank's One, she's a super fan. Yeah,

01:03:54.883 --> 01:03:58.063
freaking front runner, Janet. Yeah. Um, yeah,

01:03:58.127 --> 01:04:00.726
so then that's it. And, uh, and Dukes is, uh,

01:04:00.871 --> 01:04:04.585
supposed to now return, uh, with these agents. And I like that Ray

01:04:05.085 --> 01:04:08.594
Jackson's allowed to just chug beer throughout his recovery at this hospital. That must

01:04:09.094 --> 01:04:12.264
have been Hong Kong standard protocol at the time. Dude, it looks nice. Um,

01:04:12.426 --> 01:04:15.008
and the, the agents are there at the plane, you know, at the bottom of

01:04:15.508 --> 01:04:18.715
the airplane, said, ah, Dukes is standing us up again. And then he comes out

01:04:18.829 --> 01:04:22.451
from the door He's like, what took you so long, guys? Guys,

01:04:22.548 --> 01:04:25.149
where are you going? I am right here. It is time for us to go

01:04:25.649 --> 01:04:29.919
back to America. Like, whatever the fuck his accent is. Yeah. So that

01:04:30.031 --> 01:04:33.211
is Bloodsport. And then the most surprising part— Here we go.

01:04:33.259 --> 01:04:36.824
The entire movie to me, I had no idea that was coming. I had no

01:04:36.921 --> 01:04:40.759
hint that there was anything about this. The text that shows

01:04:40.855 --> 01:04:44.148
up over Jean-Claude Van Damme's face when he's doing the little fist

01:04:44.164 --> 01:04:47.840
and bow kind of thing to Janice saying, Goodbye. I wrote down the

01:04:48.340 --> 01:04:50.585
whole thing. This is what it says. This motion picture is based on the true

01:04:51.085 --> 01:04:54.019
events in the life of Frank W. Dux. From 1975 to 1980,

01:04:54.035 --> 01:04:57.454
Frank W. Dux fought 329 matches.

01:04:58.031 --> 01:05:01.482
He retired undefeated as the World Heavyweight Full Contact

01:05:01.982 --> 01:05:05.590
Kumite Champion. Mr. Dux still holds 4 world records: fastest

01:05:06.090 --> 01:05:08.945
knockout, 3.2 seconds; fastest punch with a knockout,

01:05:08.993 --> 01:05:13.582
0.12 seconds; whoa; fastest kick with a 72

01:05:13.598 --> 01:05:16.405
miles per hour. Oh, how many seconds was that?

01:05:16.565 --> 01:05:21.873
Most consecutive knockouts in a single tournament: 56.

01:05:21.953 --> 01:05:25.883
Hold on to that one. Subsequently, Mr. Dukes founded the first American ninjutsu

01:05:26.383 --> 01:05:29.780
system, Dukes Ryu. So this is the first problem I have with this,

01:05:29.908 --> 01:05:32.618
is I saw that and I went, bullshit, there's no way. Yeah,

01:05:33.484 --> 01:05:37.157
the first number that jumped out at me is insane, is 329 matches

01:05:37.189 --> 01:05:41.068
in 5 years. Just Like, the most prolific boxers of all

01:05:41.117 --> 01:05:43.906
time have, like, maybe 100 matches in their entire careers.

01:05:44.419 --> 01:05:47.208
40 to 50 is a good career, you know what I mean? Yeah. Like,

01:05:47.288 --> 01:05:50.542
so 329 full-contact, no-gloves matches,

01:05:50.654 --> 01:05:54.341
and yes, over 6 years, supposedly, is just— beggars

01:05:54.582 --> 01:05:58.060
the imagination. It's ridiculous. But the more interesting one is the

01:05:58.573 --> 01:06:02.196
56 consecutive knockouts in a single tournament,

01:06:02.597 --> 01:06:06.444
because the number of entrants you would need in a tournament

01:06:06.765 --> 01:06:09.939
in order to have the winner fight 56 people

01:06:10.051 --> 01:06:13.743
and beat them all, 56 consecutive people, yeah, you would need, and I quote,

01:06:13.903 --> 01:06:17.082
I did the math, 72 quadrillion,

01:06:17.194 --> 01:06:20.405
57 trillion, 594 billion people needed

01:06:20.905 --> 01:06:24.033
to be in that tournament. Oh, so you're saying it's impossible for there to be

01:06:24.097 --> 01:06:27.468
a popular martial science tournament? Something like 9 million Earths worth

01:06:27.968 --> 01:06:31.240
of people or something. Like, it's absolutely ridiculous. And so yeah, the whole— all

01:06:31.740 --> 01:06:34.499
of his stuff is just complete bullshit. And of course, the reality of it is

01:06:34.531 --> 01:06:37.886
like none of it's verifiable. All of it just came from dudes. He told Black

01:06:37.902 --> 01:06:42.365
Belt magazine that he did this, they printed it, that became

01:06:42.865 --> 01:06:44.399
the proof that it is real. Yeah, yeah. And so it's still all just based

01:06:44.899 --> 01:06:48.488
on one guy's claims. Yeah, yeah, really crazy. It's so crazy that,

01:06:48.633 --> 01:06:51.872
um, yeah, 56 in a row. Even if you're—

01:06:52.256 --> 01:06:55.848
it's like an octuple elimination tournament where you're able

01:06:55.864 --> 01:06:59.392
to lose and still like fight again. The one potential way would be like 56,

01:06:59.456 --> 01:07:02.968
a round robin of 57 people. Yeah, so everybody has to fight everybody

01:07:02.984 --> 01:07:06.255
else 56 times. Yeah, but then how do you do that, A, over 3 days,

01:07:06.367 --> 01:07:10.328
and B, who can serve— who, who other than

01:07:10.828 --> 01:07:14.113
this impenetrable champion is surviving long enough to fight 56 matches

01:07:14.770 --> 01:07:18.378
over a few days while getting knocked out at least by Frank Dux,

01:07:18.699 --> 01:07:21.778
right? It's ridiculous. It sounds like a classic liar.

01:07:21.842 --> 01:07:25.130
And then all the stuff I'd read about Frank Dux is, is he,

01:07:25.274 --> 01:07:28.706
uh, juiced his military service numbers apparently.

01:07:28.883 --> 01:07:32.539
You know, there's not, uh, a lot of evidence for the stuff that he's claiming.

01:07:32.667 --> 01:07:34.977
And he kind of was in the reserves, it sounds like. So he did have

01:07:35.477 --> 01:07:38.681
some connection but never like deployed to Vietnam or anything like that, right? I saw

01:07:38.842 --> 01:07:42.131
Right. So, uh, yeah, just your classic liar. Just the classic

01:07:42.631 --> 01:07:45.323
kid you went to elementary school with who says that his dog is actually a

01:07:45.339 --> 01:07:48.596
wolf. Like one of those kind of kids. You wouldn't know this tournament, she's in

01:07:48.628 --> 01:07:51.933
Canada. Like, yeah, yeah.

01:07:52.783 --> 01:07:55.238
So that, that is Bloodsport. And, uh,

01:07:55.784 --> 01:07:59.121
it's— that is Bloodsport, Nic. That's Bloodsport.

01:07:59.217 --> 01:08:01.479
Yeah. You brought it to us. Give us your rating, buddy. What's going on?

01:08:01.623 --> 01:08:05.313
Okay, so Bloodsport, uh, you know, you have to know why you're

01:08:05.813 --> 01:08:10.255
going into to watch it, uh, and what you're gonna get out

01:08:10.755 --> 01:08:12.082
of it. It's a short movie, hour and a half like we said. I think

01:08:12.130 --> 01:08:15.528
you can trim the first 15 minutes, no problem. Oh yeah. Um,

01:08:15.834 --> 01:08:19.513
and, uh, everyone has the option to fast forward

01:08:20.013 --> 01:08:22.993
through or start later, and I'd say like your experience doing that is going to

01:08:23.493 --> 01:08:26.862
be more enjoyable. This is almost like— it's interesting

01:08:26.910 --> 01:08:29.854
to know that the budget was so low. Yeah, that's true. Because I do feel

01:08:30.354 --> 01:08:33.872
like this movie would benefit from a modern remake, and not even as like a

01:08:34.372 --> 01:08:38.314
blockbuster, but just as kind of the level of one of those those like Jason

01:08:38.814 --> 01:08:42.033
Statham lore release, like The Beekeeper or something that has that kind

01:08:42.533 --> 01:08:45.043
of budget in it, right? Um, because I think you can get a lot of

01:08:45.060 --> 01:08:48.242
real, uh, fighters in it. I think you can make it look

01:08:48.290 --> 01:08:51.832
a lot better, the fight choreography. There's a lot of opportunities

01:08:51.864 --> 01:08:55.164
to, to improve on it. Um, but it did inspire so

01:08:55.664 --> 01:08:58.850
much stuff. There's a lot of stuff that wouldn't have existed if Frank Dux wasn't

01:08:59.350 --> 01:09:02.842
such a successful liar, right? I imagine being an editor,

01:09:02.875 --> 01:09:06.063
it'd What? Who would lie to Black Belt magazine?

01:09:06.791 --> 01:09:09.834
The most lied about title in the history of the world.

01:09:13.627 --> 01:09:16.724
But, you know, Van Damme, yeah, he kind of sucks, but he can do

01:09:17.224 --> 01:09:20.648
some fun looking stuff. Not, not great acting in this.

01:09:20.777 --> 01:09:24.255
It's kind of crazy that future Oscar nominee

01:09:24.822 --> 01:09:28.430
Forest Whitaker was in this. Yeah, right. Our second time

01:09:28.930 --> 01:09:31.464
seeing Mr. Whitaker. Yeah, that's right. Fast Times at Ridgemont High. Very famous role in

01:09:31.964 --> 01:09:35.121
Fast Times. Yeah, we haven't seen like a Forest Whitaker movie yet. No, but we'll

01:09:35.621 --> 01:09:38.542
get there, I'm sure. We've seen him around for sure. Um, so I think as

01:09:38.654 --> 01:09:42.139
far as rating Bloodsport, I'm gonna be similar to how

01:09:42.268 --> 01:09:45.865
you were with the last film, where I think that if I'm just going straight

01:09:46.365 --> 01:09:49.189
up, if I didn't have any history with this, if I wasn't giving it credit

01:09:49.254 --> 01:09:52.755
for like spawning Street Fighter 2 and Mortal Kombat, I'd probably

01:09:52.771 --> 01:09:56.127
be more like a 2.5. Like, it's just kind of like a stinky low-budget movie

01:09:56.143 --> 01:09:59.275
with some cool parts. I'm gonna go 3.5 for Bloodsport because

01:09:59.291 --> 01:10:02.822
I I think that it's a fun watch. If this is your jam, it's a

01:10:03.322 --> 01:10:06.193
fun one. And if you like action movies, I think it's important to add this

01:10:06.693 --> 01:10:09.885
to your repertoire of ones you've seen, just because it's influential

01:10:10.385 --> 01:10:13.625
and it's referenced a lot, even if it's not the greatest experience to watch.

01:10:13.882 --> 01:10:17.429
That's fair. I think that's totally fair. Yeah, I obviously, having watched this for the

01:10:17.929 --> 01:10:21.683
first time this week, don't have any nostalgia for Bloodsport. However, I do have nostalgia

01:10:22.183 --> 01:10:25.053
for at least one of the major things that it spawned, which was the sort

01:10:25.553 --> 01:10:28.866
of 1v1 fighting games that we all loved in the early '90s. '90s, most specifically

01:10:29.366 --> 01:10:32.682
Street Fighter II and Mortal Kombat, had really specific pulls from this movie

01:10:32.714 --> 01:10:36.175
that informed their movies, or their games rather. So I

01:10:36.675 --> 01:10:39.615
have to give it some credit there. Like you, never been a big Van Damme

01:10:39.631 --> 01:10:43.223
guy. You know, I was pretty much a Schwarzenegger guy when it came to action

01:10:43.271 --> 01:10:46.412
stars in the '80s and '90s, even more than Stallone and anybody else. Well,

01:10:46.476 --> 01:10:50.303
Arnie, I mean, Arnie is truly the Cadillac of those guys. I mean, Stallone is

01:10:50.335 --> 01:10:54.015
a significant step down, even though he's clearly the second best one. Sure,

01:10:54.031 --> 01:10:57.200
but he's like a fully loaded Chevy Silverado. Like, it's fine, but it's not,

01:10:57.290 --> 01:11:00.037
It's not a luxury car, you know what I mean? Like, yeah. But yeah,

01:11:00.053 --> 01:11:02.961
so I don't have nostalgia for that, but I have nostalgia for some of the

01:11:03.346 --> 01:11:06.768
resulting art that came out of this existence.

01:11:07.523 --> 01:11:11.363
I actually was going to give this a 1.5, and I'm gonna

01:11:11.863 --> 01:11:13.966
bump it up to a 2, 'cause the more I think about how all of

01:11:14.466 --> 01:11:17.950
this came out of one just absolute pathological liar's bullshit

01:11:18.450 --> 01:11:21.597
stories, and that he got away with getting this movie made, Yeah. getting the story

01:11:22.097 --> 01:11:25.901
told, like, fucking kudos, Frank W. Dukes. It's all bullshit,

01:11:25.917 --> 01:11:29.209
clearly, but man, you had so many people going for so long and got this

01:11:29.225 --> 01:11:32.355
movie made, and then that meant this and this. And so I am gonna give

01:11:32.404 --> 01:11:35.599
it a 2 out of 5. Okay. That's about it, 'cause I also was thinking

01:11:35.631 --> 01:11:37.927
about it in the context of Rocky IV. I feel like this is a very,

01:11:37.959 --> 01:11:41.394
very similar movie. This movie is a series of fights and

01:11:41.411 --> 01:11:45.055
flashbacks tied loosely together with a plot, which, you know, Rocky IV was more

01:11:45.103 --> 01:11:48.394
of like montages and fights. Yes. Right? You know,

01:11:48.716 --> 01:11:51.290
but same kind of thing where there's not enough plot here. for me to care

01:11:51.790 --> 01:11:54.790
about the movie part of it, but that's also fine. Like, there's some value here.

01:11:55.290 --> 01:11:57.830
So I think I was a 1.5 on Rocky. Because of the Street Fighter II

01:11:58.330 --> 01:12:00.950
and Mortal Kombat influence, some of that stuff, uh, I'm gonna go up to 2

01:12:01.450 --> 01:12:05.290
on Bloodsport. So, uh, you were 3.5, so 5.5 out of 10 is where we

01:12:05.790 --> 01:12:08.470
are with Bloodsport. Fair enough. I think that's, that's where it belongs. I think that's,

01:12:08.970 --> 01:12:12.250
that's, that's pretty accurate. Um, but yeah, man, Frank Dux, like,

01:12:12.750 --> 01:12:16.030
good, good for you. Now you know what, my, my YouTube rabbit hole this week

01:12:16.530 --> 01:12:20.050
is gonna be looking for actual Frank Dux interviews just to see this guy in

01:12:20.550 --> 01:12:23.441
action. 100%. It might be featured on an upcoming episode of the Rewind.

01:12:23.843 --> 01:12:26.476
If I find some good Frank Stukes, I'll share it. Love it.

01:12:26.701 --> 01:12:29.816
Perfect. Cool. All right, so I'm doing next week then.

01:12:30.009 --> 01:12:33.140
This was— yeah, what do we got coming up, Steve? So we're gonna go do

01:12:33.640 --> 01:12:35.195
another movie. This was kind of like— I think this will go better than last

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time, but, but a few weeks ago we did The Birdcage, maybe a

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month ago now. And that was a movie that is something

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my wife and I love together and quote together. And I mentioned it in

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that episode a few times. And come on, Gloria, you whatever, all this stuff.

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And we're gonna do another movie that's like that. This is something that Heather and

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I like love. This was actually a movie she introduced me to, I believe.

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Um, can't remember if I'd never seen it before I started dating her in

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the early 2000s, but I definitely— if I'd maybe seen it once,

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it wasn't like an important part of my life. And then she loves it.

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So she and I started dating in like, uh, 2005. And so from there,

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I saw this movie a ton of times, and it's now a major thing.

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We get to go back to the Bay Area, to like the pre-tech boom Bay

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Area. Oh, it's been a while since we had a Bay Area movie. We had

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Pacific Heights, we had Sneakers, uh, The Rock, you know, so we've done a few,

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but now we're gonna go back and do, do another Bay Area movie. Um,

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and we're gonna see, you know, Mike Myers before he— before Austin Powers and before,

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you know, ever, but after Wayne's World. So it's sort of like at— I don't

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even know, right around when Wayne's World came out, actually. I'm not 100% sure exactly

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the time. We'll have to look at it next week. But So I Married an

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Axe Murderer. Okay, beating around the bush, we're gonna go— this— he plays like,

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you know, 2 characters. 2 characters in this one, I think. Just 2. Yeah,

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he plays— he plays the main character and his own dad, right? And, and yeah,

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so, so we're gonna go and we're gonna hang out with, uh, with the Scottish

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family, uh, Charlie's parents and, and his buddy, the, the cop

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that wishes being a cop was more exciting than it really is. And, you know,

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there's just all, all these shots of San Francisco from like long before any of

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the like tech stuff kind of took over. Unrealistic locks in this one. Oh,

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absolutely, 100%. Can't wait for it. Really good Yeah, how 2 roommates

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afford that crazy apartment in San Francisco even in 1993 or whatever.

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Right. Wild. So yeah, so, uh, '93, So I Married an Axe Murderer.

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