WEBVTT 00:01.460 --> 00:02.965 You're a tough man to get a hold of, Jeffrey. 00:05.160 --> 00:08.354 What do you want? Huh. It's not what I want. 00:08.887 --> 00:12.652 It's what you want. How bad you want it, 'cause it is gonna cost 00:13.152 --> 00:17.227 you. Can't show it to you right now, but it's about 5'5, 00:17.341 --> 00:20.606 115 pounds, 3 or 4 of that just pure tit. 00:21.764 --> 00:24.297 Nice curly brown hair upstairs and down. 00:28.304 --> 00:31.640 Interested? Why? Just why? 00:31.833 --> 00:32.220 Why us? 00:34.911 --> 00:36.083 Bring him up here. 00:44.437 --> 00:47.879 Town of Brackett, Jeff. 00:48.056 --> 00:51.015 It's a two-bit shithole in the middle of nowhere. 00:53.305 --> 00:54.251 See the bank down there? 00:57.329 --> 01:00.145 A few minutes, you're going to walk in, tell the manager you want an express 01:00.645 --> 01:04.219 wire in the amount of $90,000 from your bank account in Boston. Cash. 01:07.497 --> 01:10.048 How do I know she's still alive? 01:11.380 --> 01:13.773 Shut up! 01:15.401 --> 01:18.662 Come on, Jeff. I need 01:19.162 --> 01:22.826 you to pay attention. It's 2 Dads 01:22.923 --> 01:27.146 1 Movie. It's the podcast where 2 middle-aged dads sit around and shoot the 01:27.646 --> 01:30.723 shit about the movies of the '80s and '90s. Here are your hosts, 01:30.884 --> 01:35.244 Steve Paulo and Nic Briana. Hello everybody, 01:35.276 --> 01:38.369 welcome to another episode of 2 Dads 1 Movie. I'm Steve. And I'm Nic. 01:38.578 --> 01:42.766 And today we are talking about the 1997 suspense thriller kind 01:43.266 --> 01:47.011 of action movie Breakdown starring Kurt Russell. And Nic, you brought 01:47.027 --> 01:49.015 Breakdown to the table, so why don't you tell us a little bit about your 01:49.515 --> 01:53.279 history with it? Yeah, you know, like I said when I previewed it in the 01:53.779 --> 01:56.773 last episode, this was actually a suggestion from one of our listeners, 01:56.885 --> 02:00.412 Matt DeLuna. Shout out to Matt, and shout out to everyone who listens and writes 02:00.912 --> 02:03.986 us. We love hearing from you. We get back to everyone. We love chatting movies. 02:04.035 --> 02:05.509 So, you know, hit up the show, 02:05.686 --> 02:09.773 theshow@2dads1movie.com. That's the number 2 and the number 1. The number 2 02:09.853 --> 02:13.363 and the number 1. So yeah, but this was definitely in 02:13.475 --> 02:16.986 my mental queue that this was coming up at some point. I think 02:17.486 --> 02:21.378 that we especially, we love Kurt Russell. We're big Kurt Russell fans. And he's 02:21.474 --> 02:24.856 one of those guys, it's like, he's probably not, he's not on paper the best 02:24.921 --> 02:28.319 actor that's ever lived, but I enjoy such a high percentage 02:28.383 --> 02:32.118 of his movies. And I love, like, yeah, I just love what he brings 02:32.150 --> 02:35.853 to the table. He's very Keanu Reeves. You're never gonna like win an Oscar 02:36.062 --> 02:39.444 per se, but he's so good at what he does and he's so believable and 02:39.944 --> 02:42.297 likable on screen that I don't care. I wanna watch anything Keanu's in. I wanna 02:42.313 --> 02:46.178 watch anything Kurt Russell's in. Yeah, for sure. And this was one when I worked 02:46.678 --> 02:50.009 at the movie theater at Blackhawk Movies 7 in Danville, California. Shout out. Rest in 02:50.025 --> 02:53.327 peace to that theater. We had this movie there, 02:53.632 --> 02:57.527 and I remember, you know, stepping in on it a bunch when I was working 02:57.559 --> 03:00.428 and watching it a couple times with my free tickets and all that stuff. 03:00.829 --> 03:03.602 And then I owned it on video after that, so I watched this a whole 03:03.715 --> 03:06.712 lot. Nice. And this was definitely quotable. Like, 03:06.856 --> 03:10.383 some of our buddies, we'd watch it. Todd Toffoli worked at the movie 03:10.883 --> 03:14.294 theater with me. We definitely quote this one a lot. And just a lot of 03:14.794 --> 03:18.200 fun. Like, I Just these thrillers have been great. Yeah, it's not normally 03:18.700 --> 03:21.240 my— the stuff that I watch all the time, and it's been really fun to 03:21.740 --> 03:24.980 chat about these. So how about you, Steve? You ever seen Breakdown before? Not only 03:25.480 --> 03:28.360 have I never seen Breakdown before watching it, I think literally yesterday, 03:28.970 --> 03:31.500 I'd never heard of it. It just was not one that I was familiar with 03:32.000 --> 03:34.200 at all. I mean, obviously Kurt Russell's had so many films he's made over the 03:34.700 --> 03:37.880 years. Yeah, you know, for every The Thing and Big Trouble in Little China and 03:38.380 --> 03:41.080 Overboard and Escape from New York that I love, he's done like 5 movies I've 03:41.580 --> 03:43.500 never even heard of. I feel like, you know, there's just so many out there. 03:43.660 --> 03:44.980 So I wasn't aware of it. I came in as blind as I could. 03:45.480 --> 03:48.534 Like I said, I had knew just the very, very, very basics about, 03:48.550 --> 03:52.204 again, the movie's called Breakdown. It's about a car breaking down and then guy's wife 03:52.220 --> 03:55.441 goes missing and boom. Like, that's basically it. Like, that's like all I knew. 03:55.505 --> 03:57.812 And then, and he'd have to hunt, hunt for her. Right. So I knew nothing 03:57.892 --> 04:01.241 else. Um, and, and, you know, was like really 04:01.530 --> 04:04.142 excited to kind of get into it. 'Cause yeah, you, like I said, we were 04:04.642 --> 04:07.827 talking about the other day and, uh, you have brought 04:08.327 --> 04:12.154 several thrillers, I think especially from the '90s in particular. Yeah. To the 04:12.654 --> 04:15.360 podcast that I'd never seen before. Some of them I'd never heard of before. 04:15.860 --> 04:17.840 Some I'd heard of and just not seen. But, you know, The River Wild, 04:18.340 --> 04:21.560 Cape Fear, and Sleeping with the Enemy, those 3 in particular, like, I loved those 04:22.060 --> 04:24.270 3 movies and had not seen them before you brought them to the podcast. 04:24.660 --> 04:28.520 So I was really excited. It's like, oh, Nic's bringing another '90s thriller. Let's see 04:29.020 --> 04:32.340 how it goes. Let's hope it's not a Pacific Heights. Yeah, Pacific Heights did not. 04:32.840 --> 04:34.300 Although now I'm like, damn, do I have to go back and watch that again 04:34.800 --> 04:37.680 to like rejudge it? And then I keep thinking about Matthew Modine's stupid face and 04:38.180 --> 04:40.720 I go, no, I don't have to fucking go rewatch that. Screw Pacific Heights. 04:41.220 --> 04:44.840 Anyway, yeah. So not a super— not aware really of kind of 04:45.340 --> 04:47.060 what I was getting into. I just was kind of like, man, let's just go 04:47.560 --> 04:50.760 into it, you know, essentially as blind as possible. Yeah. And see what happens. 04:50.860 --> 04:54.340 So very excited. Very happy that you, that you brought it to me and 04:54.840 --> 04:58.140 to the podcast and, you know, let's just dive into the facts. Let's do it, 04:58.640 --> 05:00.980 man. So the film Breakdown was released on May 2nd, 05:01.480 --> 05:05.000 1997, junior year. Apparently you were working there. Yeah. 05:05.500 --> 05:07.900 Yeah. With a running time of 93 minutes. And I want to say this was 05:08.400 --> 05:09.400 one of the first things that really excited me when I noticed the running time. 05:09.900 --> 05:13.660 I went, oh, That is tight. I love a 05:14.160 --> 05:17.100 90-minute movie. I mean, that is— This podcast has made me love a 90-minute movie 05:17.600 --> 05:20.820 so much. It is okay to have, you know, Goodfellas and some of the ones 05:21.320 --> 05:22.660 we've done that are longer every once in a while, but they gotta earn it. 05:23.160 --> 05:26.720 Right. And there is, I have so much more, you know, 05:27.220 --> 05:30.820 anything that's 95 minutes or less, I just have more patience for. Like, 05:31.320 --> 05:32.840 I'm just more, you know what I mean? It's like, it can be a little 05:33.340 --> 05:35.260 less exciting and I'm kind of like, yeah, but it was only 92 minutes, 05:35.760 --> 05:39.060 whatever. So 93-minute running time, very cool. The film was 05:39.560 --> 05:41.300 directed by Jonathan Mostow, written by Mostow and Sam Montgomery. It stars Chris Pratt, 05:43.100 --> 05:46.380 Kurt Russell, J.T. Walsh, and Kathleen Quinlan. Scores, 05:46.880 --> 05:51.080 Rotten Tomatoes, 83%, very respectable Rotten Tomatoes score. Quite a bit lower IMDb 05:51.580 --> 05:54.400 kind of version, which is a 7.0, which is right at that line we've talked 05:54.900 --> 05:58.430 about of being fine, decent, but not celebrated. 05:58.640 --> 06:02.320 We get a thumbs up from Roger Ebert. Gene Siskel, this was a time of— 06:02.820 --> 06:04.760 he was fighting cancer. He wasn't really on the show a lot, did not review 06:05.260 --> 06:07.340 this one. So we get neither an up nor down from Siskel. We do get 06:07.840 --> 06:11.930 a thumbs up from Roger Ebert. A handful of awards action on this. 06:12.060 --> 06:15.352 2 nominations at the 1998 Saturn Awards. It was 06:15.368 --> 06:19.037 nominated but did not win for Best Action Adventure Thriller Film, which is 06:19.537 --> 06:22.931 a category at the Saturn Awards. And then J.T. Walsh was 06:22.963 --> 06:26.488 nominated for but did not win Best Supporting Actor that year. However, at the 06:26.988 --> 06:30.942 1998 Blockbuster Entertainment Awards, Kathleen Quinlan did win 06:31.118 --> 06:35.428 Favorite Supporting Actress in the Suspense genre. I don't know how many different genres 06:35.476 --> 06:38.697 the Blockbuster Awards covered, but they had Best Supporting Actor Suspense or Best 06:39.197 --> 06:42.206 Supporting Actress Suspense. Interesting. And Quinlan won for that, which is a little interesting. 06:42.254 --> 06:45.861 She's kind of the least involved in this. Although she does— I mean, we should— 06:45.957 --> 06:47.961 I mean, we're not gonna give away the ending, but she certainly has— When she 06:48.461 --> 06:51.361 has to act in it, she really has to act. And she really does bring 06:51.569 --> 06:54.600 the right kind of, uh, you know, terror to 06:55.100 --> 06:56.749 certain parts of this. So she did a great job. But yeah, she actually won 06:56.845 --> 07:00.148 the Blockbuster Award that year for Best Supporting Actress in a Suspense Film 07:00.293 --> 07:04.125 on a $36 million budget, at least a portion of which went to flying 07:04.221 --> 07:07.268 Kurt Russell to and from LA and where they were filming in Arizona, 07:07.348 --> 07:11.116 uh, basically daily on private jets so that he could continue filming Escape from Los 07:11.616 --> 07:15.797 Angeles. Okay. With John Carpenter around the same time. It only pulled in $50.1 million 07:16.297 --> 07:19.228 at the box office, 1.4 times what it cost. A definite disappointment. This was not 07:19.728 --> 07:23.011 a box office success really by any measure, which is maybe one of the 07:23.511 --> 07:25.127 reasons that I had never heard of it. It just kind of was a movie 07:25.159 --> 07:28.124 that flew under the radar for a lot of people. Yeah. And I think this 07:28.624 --> 07:32.100 was right around when— was this Independence Day or Men in Black? One of those 07:32.212 --> 07:35.659 things came out like right around this time, a little bit after, and was huge. 07:35.723 --> 07:39.265 Like there was this— All these black gigantic movies. So stuff 07:39.765 --> 07:42.600 like this would get buried. And a lot of times we'd start off a big 07:43.100 --> 07:46.788 movie in a certain theater, like we had different capacity theaters, right? So we started 07:47.288 --> 07:49.467 off in theater 1, that's the big dog. And then if it was in a 07:49.967 --> 07:53.462 smaller theater by like Friday of that next week, then you knew it was gonna 07:53.962 --> 07:57.410 be fucking gone soon. The Crow 2: City of Angels, biggest culprit 07:57.910 --> 08:01.309 of all time that went from the biggest capacity theater to the next day, 08:01.389 --> 08:04.678 the smallest one, 'cause nobody was coming to see it. Which, you know, 08:04.919 --> 08:08.144 just real quick on that, it's like, why did they make a sequel to The 08:08.644 --> 08:12.280 Crow after Brandon Lee fucking dies Filming the first one, that should have 08:12.780 --> 08:14.980 been the end of it. Yeah, you just end it. I think it's bad luck 08:15.480 --> 08:18.360 or just dip the chip once and end it. Be over with it. 08:18.860 --> 08:22.360 Don't go back double dip. Okay. Okay. Well, let's let's kick 08:22.860 --> 08:25.940 off. How does breakdown start, man? What's going on? So our title sequence is 08:26.440 --> 08:30.040 this like you know intense kind of drum music. So nineties, right? Dude, so so 08:30.540 --> 08:34.540 nineties. I just wrote down drums and roads because it's just 08:35.040 --> 08:36.920 like you know maps and drums and. 08:38.050 --> 08:41.700 And this is a very serious movie. There's very little levity throughout 08:42.200 --> 08:45.340 this movie. Oh yeah. Um, and, and this is the tone for it, right? 08:45.840 --> 08:49.290 So there's no animated, uh, Kurt Russell and his wife driving across country, 08:49.420 --> 08:52.720 bouncing along on the dirt road. Like, no, nothing like that. No, it's a very— 08:53.220 --> 08:55.700 it's a very— not— this is not— this is gonna sound like an insult. 08:56.200 --> 08:59.300 It's not. It's a very one-note film. Yes. The film is here to ratchet tension, 08:59.800 --> 09:02.520 right? And then eventually try to pay that off. But like, ratchet, ratchet, ratchet is 09:03.020 --> 09:05.640 basically all it does the entire time. For sure. Yeah. Uh, so now we get 09:06.140 --> 09:09.560 our, our main characters, and I don't even Write their names down. Kurt Russell and 09:10.060 --> 09:13.660 Kurt Russell's wife. Jeff and Amy. Jeff and Amy Taylor. Jeff and Amy Taylor. 09:14.160 --> 09:17.280 And they're driving through like just this, you know, it's a main road, but just 09:17.780 --> 09:20.900 that desolate desert driving through Arizona, you know, when you're going through 09:21.400 --> 09:24.220 the middle of nowhere, just hoping that your car doesn't overheat, you don't run out 09:24.720 --> 09:27.220 of gas, you don't get a flat tire, any of that stuff. You're driving from 09:27.720 --> 09:29.660 LA to Vegas, you have to go through tons of stretches just like that. 09:30.160 --> 09:32.110 Yeah, totally, a lot of that stuff. Yeah, for sure. And they've got a nice, 09:32.500 --> 09:35.160 you know, for that time, this was my dream car at the time, the Jeep 09:35.660 --> 09:37.580 Grand Cherokee. Gorgeous. In the late '90s. 09:39.500 --> 09:42.680 And he's got a Boston Red Sox license plate frame. 09:42.840 --> 09:46.060 They're established as assholes who maybe have a little money 09:46.560 --> 09:49.300 or maybe are living a bit beyond their means with that Jeep. 09:50.200 --> 09:53.900 So they're driving through the desert kind of chitchatting 09:54.400 --> 09:56.800 a little bit. So I'm gonna just dial it back slightly just to get to 09:57.300 --> 09:59.520 the credits because again, I went in with as little understanding of what this movie 10:00.020 --> 10:02.020 was as possible. The only person I knew who was in it was Kurt Russell. 10:02.520 --> 10:05.960 So when the next 2 names that— well, actually, maybe Kathleen Quinlan was between them, 10:06.460 --> 10:08.860 but no, I think the next 2 names in the credits were J.T. Walsh and 10:09.360 --> 10:12.020 M.C. Gainey, and I went, oh yes, J.T. Walsh and M.C. Gainey! I love both 10:12.520 --> 10:16.180 these guys. 2 of our best initial actors of all time, right? Absolutely. I mean, 10:16.680 --> 10:19.780 not outside of the John C's, right? We got a couple of great John C's. 10:20.280 --> 10:23.500 But initial names, right? Yeah. Who else we got? We got B.J. Novak. Yeah, 10:24.000 --> 10:26.840 he's great. We got CCH Pounder, who has an extra one. She's fantastic. 10:27.340 --> 10:30.620 She's wonderful. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, really, M.C. 10:31.120 --> 10:33.320 Gainey and J.T. Walsh. Really good. They're wonderful. And so I was really excited to 10:33.820 --> 10:36.120 see that. And then seeing that it was produced by Dino De Laurentiis and his 10:36.620 --> 10:39.120 wife, Martha De Laurentiis. I always like pointing out 2 things. Dino De Laurentiis, 10:39.620 --> 10:41.520 producer on Army of Darkness. Okay. Film producer for many, many, many, many decades. 10:42.020 --> 10:45.640 Wonderful. Also the grandfather of celebrity chef 10:46.140 --> 10:48.480 Giada De Laurentiis. If you watch a lot of Food Network, I'm sure you're aware 10:48.980 --> 10:53.260 of who Giada is, and it's her grandfather, Dino. The most enviable location. 10:53.760 --> 10:57.060 That TV show, one of her cooking shows where she's in Italy on this like— 10:57.560 --> 11:00.820 On the Amalfi Coast, like yeah. Jesus Christ, I would pay like $10,000 for one 11:01.320 --> 11:02.780 night at that place. It looks amazing. There you go, that's how you know she's 11:03.280 --> 11:05.500 succeeded as a celebrity chef, she gets to pick. Like, you know, you're gonna come 11:06.000 --> 11:08.080 to me, and it's gonna be here, and this is where I'm filming. It's like, 11:08.580 --> 11:11.560 okay, Giada, we'll do that. Anyway, so yeah, so we start off, and basically, 11:12.060 --> 11:13.380 yeah, they're chatting for a while, and then they stop at like a gas station. 11:15.200 --> 11:18.902 Notice Kurt's rocking the Izod shirt with the little alligator 11:18.983 --> 11:22.509 on it. Gotta love that. Very, very '90s dad. They're signaling his like 11:22.589 --> 11:25.956 yuppiness. Exactly. Throughout this for sure. And so he walks 11:26.456 --> 11:29.563 out of the store carrying like a motor oil canister. Well, 11:29.579 --> 11:32.817 so he had swerved like when they were driving towards the gas station first. 11:32.929 --> 11:35.814 Oh, that's right. He was chatting with his wife and she's like, you know, 11:35.894 --> 11:39.004 look, and he swerves. A truck had like pulled out in front of them and 11:39.036 --> 11:41.922 he swerves around it, right? And that guy honks and he's pissed off. So they 11:42.422 --> 11:46.042 stop at the gas station and then yeah, he comes out here. And those dudes 11:46.090 --> 11:49.580 are there. Those guys are there. And there's a few things that kind of like 11:50.080 --> 11:52.840 happen here where they chat a little bit and it's MC Gainey and he was 11:53.340 --> 11:55.540 driving the truck they almost hit and he's clearly pissed and he's like walking around 11:56.040 --> 11:58.940 looking at the car and talking about, oh, you got the leather, you got this, 11:59.440 --> 12:02.980 you got the CD. Wow, look at this. In a very menacing way. Yeah. 12:03.480 --> 12:07.000 Like somebody complimenting your stuff in a way of like, I should fucking take this. 12:07.500 --> 12:10.120 Yeah, this is, this is, this is diving into the drive-through and ordering the rims 12:10.620 --> 12:14.000 and the burger. This is like— but yeah, so, so he's trying 12:14.500 --> 12:15.880 to sort of play it off like, hey man, like, you know, I didn't, 12:16.380 --> 12:18.230 I didn't almost hit you. you. Like, I think you're being a little— you kind 12:18.730 --> 12:19.750 of pulled out in front of me out of nowhere. And he's like, oh, 12:20.250 --> 12:22.360 I didn't. It's like, ah, you know, whatever. So there's this little back and forth. 12:23.210 --> 12:26.030 So he puts the oil in the— in the back, in the whatever motor, 12:26.530 --> 12:29.030 which is like— here's the thing. The problem is they show the dash of the 12:29.530 --> 12:32.650 car while they're driving at one point, and there's 245 miles on it. 12:32.750 --> 12:35.850 Yeah. Well, they're driving from Massachusetts, so they 12:36.350 --> 12:39.510 should be well over 245 miles just to get to Arizona from Massachusetts. 12:39.590 --> 12:44.250 And then what car needs more oil after 245 miles? That is Boy, 12:44.750 --> 12:48.630 Chrysler should sue them for defamation. That's totally like Kurt Russell's character. 12:49.130 --> 12:52.430 I would believe that he's just like adding vanity oil to 12:52.930 --> 12:55.050 his car so that he looks like he knows what he's doing at a gas 12:55.550 --> 12:58.730 station. Except even at that point, pouring a whole thing, it would have overflowed 12:59.230 --> 13:02.370 everywhere. Anyway, small— like the one— honestly, this movie does not have 13:02.870 --> 13:05.850 a lot of plot holes. I went looking for it. Yeah, this 245-mile odometer is 13:06.350 --> 13:09.670 like the main one I could find. So really good job. During this 13:10.170 --> 13:13.772 exchange, something funny about this that me and our buddy Todd always used 13:14.272 --> 13:17.989 to joke about is where they're having this discussion about like, well, you pulled in 13:18.489 --> 13:21.709 front of me. Yeah. And, and MC Gainey's like, I saw what happened. 13:22.238 --> 13:26.039 During the trailer, this movie cuts that line in a way that makes 13:26.539 --> 13:30.272 it sound like, like, I saw what, you know, ends up happening in a little 13:30.772 --> 13:33.656 bit. Like, it makes it seem like so much more of a conspiracy. 13:33.720 --> 13:37.328 So interesting. I, I think everyone should watch the trailer 13:37.828 --> 13:41.336 to this movie because it is very entertaining. Like, Knowing how the movie actually works, 13:41.737 --> 13:45.488 like how they make that line look. But also proving 13:45.988 --> 13:49.848 to you you shouldn't trust trailers. No, no, no. This movie had an awesome trailer. 13:49.912 --> 13:53.198 Like, I was real psyched when this came out. Yeah, so M.C. 13:53.262 --> 13:56.404 Gainey, very witty guy, he says, hey, you should get a bumper 13:56.904 --> 14:00.267 sticker on your car that says shit for brains. Or no, he tells him 14:00.767 --> 14:03.538 that should be a CB handle. CB handle. Your CB handle for you should be 14:04.038 --> 14:07.465 shit for brains. He went to the Nic Cage school of taking 14:07.965 --> 14:10.927 a long time for a very weak burn, right? Because he was like, 14:11.268 --> 14:14.260 Oh, you know what you really need out here is a CB radio. Very Rocket 14:14.760 --> 14:17.544 Man code. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you like Elton John? 14:17.673 --> 14:20.390 Like, you know. So, 14:20.551 --> 14:23.806 so they're on the road again, right? Kurt's a little spooked. A little bit. 14:23.919 --> 14:27.206 But they're, you know, they're talking about the snacks that 14:27.286 --> 14:29.042 Amy had picked up at the gas station. Which, 14:31.471 --> 14:34.768 these are not, these are not good road trip snacks. These are dogshit road trip 14:35.268 --> 14:37.889 snacks. I was so personally offended. She gets snowballs. 14:39.128 --> 14:42.834 Yoo-Hoo, because that's what everybody wants in a hot desert day, is a fucking cup 14:43.334 --> 14:46.492 of carbonated chocolate milk. And, um, Moon Pies, 14:46.668 --> 14:49.749 and then little powdered donuts. These are terrible road trip foods. 14:49.877 --> 14:52.572 Though with that powdered donuts, those are gonna get all over the car. I got 14:52.604 --> 14:55.797 one question. You ever heard of Combos? Combos? Bugles? 14:56.070 --> 14:59.535 Fucking Bugles. Give me some of those. Give me some of those. Just the 15:00.035 --> 15:03.289 milk. Yes, the Gardettos with the little rye crisps in them. And then, uh, 15:03.370 --> 15:06.160 give me the, uh the gas station brand, 15:06.660 --> 15:09.910 like berries and cheese croissant or like Bear Claw. You know what I'm talking about? 15:10.040 --> 15:12.720 Like the ones you can only get at a gas station. Let me rock those 15:13.220 --> 15:15.520 before I'm rocking powdered donuts and getting them all over my leather seats. Like, 15:16.020 --> 15:19.220 it's a brand new Jeep Grand Cherokee. And then like all her choices, it's like, 15:19.720 --> 15:22.940 okay, you should have picked one of these 3. And then, and then some Slim 15:23.440 --> 15:26.260 Jims and something savory. Where's the salty? Where's the salty? At least you got to 15:26.760 --> 15:29.880 have some salty with your sweet. She went all sweet and snowballs are just garbage. 15:30.380 --> 15:33.680 I'm sorry. Those are the worst snacks. Yeah. It's the least food-like thing. 15:33.820 --> 15:37.200 Like an animal would not eat a snowball most likely. But she points out in 15:37.700 --> 15:41.200 the donuts that she bought, there's like an, like a contest which you can enter. 15:41.700 --> 15:45.620 Sweepstakes. Yeah. And it says you'll either win $90,000 or 90,000 15:46.120 --> 15:50.000 donuts, which does not take much for anybody to realize you could buy 90,000 15:50.500 --> 15:54.000 donuts with $90,000 and probably have about 40 grand left over. Right. This is 15:54.500 --> 15:56.620 ridiculous. You don't need to spend that much. But anyway, that would be the contest. 15:57.120 --> 15:59.800 You get to pick if you win the sweepstakes. Which is really funny to like, 16:00.300 --> 16:04.500 they're gonna like televise it live and have the person making their LeBron-style decision 16:05.000 --> 16:08.060 between the donuts and the dollars. I do love the idea of somebody getting like 16:08.560 --> 16:11.800 a truckload of donuts that are gonna expire in a month and then having to 16:12.300 --> 16:15.360 pay tax on $90,000 worth of fair value. I hadn't even thought of that. 16:15.860 --> 16:19.240 Look at you, CPA brain. You're just like, maybe. So, 16:19.670 --> 16:23.320 so as they're driving down the road, the car starts— 16:23.820 --> 16:26.800 the dash is blinking. The car basically freezes up. And Kurt, 16:27.300 --> 16:30.300 being as smart as he is, lets it just stop in the middle of the 16:30.800 --> 16:34.280 road. Doesn't even nudge it slightly to the side. Doesn't even try to move over, 16:34.780 --> 16:37.880 right? Oh my God. And so they— so, and I 16:38.380 --> 16:42.060 noticed because we— because of our conversation about Mallrats, where I talked about 16:42.560 --> 16:44.240 the original cut of the movie. They didn't get to the mall in the movie 16:44.740 --> 16:48.040 called Mallrats until 29 minutes. I said, oh, the breakdown occurred 8 minutes in. 16:48.540 --> 16:51.420 We're good. We're golden. 8-minute breakdown. 8 minutes is perfect. I have that exact thing 16:51.920 --> 16:56.040 written down. So good. You gotta fulfill the promise of the title. 16:56.540 --> 16:58.140 If you want a breakdown, give it to us early. 8 minutes in. Nah, 16:58.640 --> 17:01.480 it feels good. Car broke down. I originally thought to myself, because again, not knowing 17:01.980 --> 17:05.280 what was coming, whatever, man, I wonder what Chrysler thinks about the fact that the 17:05.780 --> 17:09.181 Jeep Grand Cherokee is like the breakdown car, you know? Right. But I'll get into 17:09.681 --> 17:12.601 that a little more later. But yeah, so as they're trying to figure out, 17:12.617 --> 17:15.090 they're just looking in under the hood, you know, which is they're doing what I 17:15.590 --> 17:17.113 do when I look under my hood, which is just look, because I don't know 17:17.613 --> 17:20.340 shit for what's going on under there. So I just go, huh, yeah, this, 17:21.031 --> 17:24.066 yeah, look at those, those things. 17:25.206 --> 17:28.834 You're basically, all I'm doing is making sure that the gas 17:29.334 --> 17:32.126 can still isn't in there like in Tommy Boy. Like, that's the only thing I 17:32.626 --> 17:36.157 know, right? Yeah, so he's looking under the hood, and this is, this is a 17:36.657 --> 17:39.979 very nostalgic moment. He goes to the car, opens the glovebox, 17:40.059 --> 17:43.239 decides to turn his cell phone on and give— oh, remember when 17:43.288 --> 17:46.660 the cell phone was like StarTAC? Oh man, my dad had a leather, 17:46.741 --> 17:49.969 like a leather wrapper on a Motorola StarTAC. Nice. 17:50.177 --> 17:53.904 That was his first cell phone, probably around '95, '96. Yeah. And it was like, 17:53.968 --> 17:56.778 I thought that was the coolest fucking thing in the world. For sure. 17:56.923 --> 17:59.862 Not that big Zack Morris phone. No, no, you gotta have the flip StarTAC, 17:59.974 --> 18:03.309 buddy. And so there's no reception, clearly. And yes, 18:03.438 --> 18:06.932 I kind of like, ah man. And then they see, you know, vehicles coming 18:07.445 --> 18:10.860 towards them, but it's that truck from before. And they just— he just blares 18:10.892 --> 18:14.483 his horn and drives right by them. Yeah. And they watch him kind of drive 18:14.983 --> 18:18.346 off into the distance, but there's like a hill and like a turnoff area that 18:18.846 --> 18:21.825 they can see, and the truck turns around and then just kind of points itself 18:22.097 --> 18:25.993 towards them, right? So they're just like, dude, what the fuck here? But before 18:26.025 --> 18:29.090 that pickup heads back to them or doesn't even— we're kind of sitting, there's this 18:29.590 --> 18:32.290 tense moment where it's kind of something gonna happen, whatever. A big rig comes up 18:32.790 --> 18:35.370 behind them. Yeah. And stops, you know, and because obviously they're stopped in the middle 18:35.870 --> 18:38.150 of the road. So he stops and hops out and is like, oh, you folks 18:38.650 --> 18:41.510 need any help? It's J.T. Walsh. And so, you know, I wrote here, naive me 18:42.010 --> 18:45.290 wrote here, J.T. Walsh to the rescue. So he goes and offers to like— 18:45.790 --> 18:48.190 so he helps them push the car off to the side, which Kurt Russell should 18:48.690 --> 18:52.010 have fucking done in the beginning. And then he's like, well, there's a Bell's Diner 18:52.510 --> 18:54.730 just a couple miles up the road. Why don't I take you? You can use 18:55.230 --> 18:58.460 the payphone there. You know, whatever. And, you know, Kurt Russell is kind 18:58.960 --> 19:01.400 of— Jeff is kind of like, I don't know, like he's looking back down the 19:01.900 --> 19:04.400 road the way that pickup went, which they did. Once the big rig stopped, 19:04.600 --> 19:07.140 that pickup turned back around and went, kept going the way it was headed. 19:07.340 --> 19:10.260 So they're gone, they're out of view. But he's like— He doesn't trust leaving his 19:10.760 --> 19:13.020 truck there. Exactly. He's like, if I leave the car here, they'll come back. 19:13.520 --> 19:14.860 I mean, look, here's the thing. Oh, this is the other thing that bothered me 19:15.360 --> 19:18.980 about this car. Jeff Taylor's car 19:19.480 --> 19:22.860 packing abilities are worse than Tom Cruise's swing in A Few Good Men. 19:23.360 --> 19:25.620 Why are there 2 tiny suitcases strapped to the top when there is a shit 19:26.120 --> 19:29.978 ton of room? in the back of that car. Right, the whole draw 19:30.042 --> 19:33.506 of the SUV is everything can be encapsulated in 19:34.006 --> 19:36.312 the vehicle. And if it can't, then you've got extra room on the rack on 19:36.812 --> 19:40.306 top, fine. But you've got excess space inside, and you don't have to have— you 19:40.806 --> 19:43.850 could lock everything securely within the car rather than strapping it to the top. 19:43.914 --> 19:47.763 But regardless. But again, maybe speaks to the dipshittiness of 19:48.263 --> 19:50.490 the character where he's like, hey honey, let's do a road trip. You know what 19:50.990 --> 19:53.729 you do on a road trip? Strap the luggage to the roof. It certainly seems 19:53.857 --> 19:57.177 like, yeah, that was sort of the first thought. But anyway, so he says, 19:57.290 --> 19:59.830 You know, J.T. Walsh offers them the ride and they decline. 20:00.790 --> 20:04.170 And Amy is kind of like, are you sure? 'Cause like, this week, 20:04.670 --> 20:07.070 who knows what's gonna happen? Like, he's— and he's like, well, you know, he said 20:07.570 --> 20:10.170 the car might overheat it. Maybe it'll cool down and it'll just, it'll be better. 20:10.670 --> 20:12.140 We can turn it back on. And she's like, I don't know about this. 20:12.270 --> 20:15.330 She's like, look, why don't, you know, why don't we go, whatever? He goes, 20:15.830 --> 20:18.070 I don't wanna leave the car here. Well, why don't I go? You stay here 20:18.570 --> 20:21.190 with the car. I'll call for the tow truck and then have them bring me 20:21.690 --> 20:26.050 back here. And he's like, all right, okay. And this is like, these movies often 20:26.550 --> 20:29.783 suffer from moments where one of the characters, almost always the protagonist, 20:29.928 --> 20:33.008 you know, the main character makes a choice that you go, dude, that was 20:33.072 --> 20:36.169 stupid. Why would you choose to do that? This is not one of those moments. 20:37.148 --> 20:41.223 He knows those pickup guys could turn right around anytime. If he left Amy 20:41.255 --> 20:44.833 there with the car, now she's potentially in danger from them. 20:45.186 --> 20:48.010 He's much more likely— he's much more willing to put himself in that potential danger. 20:48.058 --> 20:50.144 He's also not going to leave the car completely alone. He's coming back. Yeah, 20:50.160 --> 20:52.888 it does make sense. It makes sense. He actually makes— and this— and J.T. 20:52.968 --> 20:56.354 Walsh's character came with a lot of credibility. He took a look 20:56.402 --> 20:59.250 at the car for him. Like, Yeah. And he helps him move it, and he's 20:59.750 --> 21:02.230 just offering, he's playing all right. His character's name is Red, which makes it a 21:02.730 --> 21:06.270 Red's Diner. Red Bar. Saying all the right things, whatever. And so 21:06.770 --> 21:09.350 he's like, all right. So Amy gets up into the cab with Red, and they 21:09.850 --> 21:12.930 drive off, and Jeff's kind of left there alone. And then 21:13.430 --> 21:15.090 there's this weird thing where it cuts, and it's really hard to tell how much 21:15.590 --> 21:19.310 time passes. Right, because, so if Belle's is 60 miles ahead— 21:19.810 --> 21:22.870 No, no, it's 6. That's the thing, no, 'cause there was a town that's 60 21:23.370 --> 21:25.550 miles, he said, but Belle's Diner is just 5 miles, 'cause it's on its own. 21:26.050 --> 21:27.790 Oh, okay. It's just 5 miles up the road. Okay, that makes much more sense. 21:28.290 --> 21:31.301 Yeah, yeah, yeah, there was like a whole town Well, it makes less sense to 21:31.801 --> 21:34.074 me now because it did seem like the device that they used to kind of 21:34.574 --> 21:38.049 show that an amount of time had passed when he got there. 21:39.460 --> 21:43.435 Yeah, I don't know. It's a little funky. But anyway, enough time that he decided 21:43.451 --> 21:46.770 like, well, I better get going. And he's checking the car like it's not overheated. 21:46.834 --> 21:49.735 Like, yeah, what the hell's going on? And he goes to take a look underneath 21:50.235 --> 21:52.925 and sees that there's these wires that somebody had put wires in his car, 21:53.326 --> 21:56.644 much like in Commando. Well, he kind of looks through the grill, it looks like. 21:56.692 --> 21:58.969 So he kind of looks down through the hood and he looks through the grill 21:59.097 --> 22:02.550 and sees them disconnected and is able to put them back together. And it's basically 22:03.050 --> 22:05.630 the battery connections. It's, it's, it's, they were seated, you know, whatever. And so now 22:06.130 --> 22:08.590 he puts it, so it wasn't even cut. They're just, they were just, you know, 22:09.090 --> 22:11.070 they came apart while he was driving, right? Is, is what it looks like. 22:11.610 --> 22:14.170 Right. So he shuts it, turns it on. Oh, car works now. So now he's 22:14.670 --> 22:16.030 like, all right, well, I'll drive down. He said it's just down the road. 22:16.530 --> 22:19.990 So he finds Belle's Diner, parks the car, goes in. 22:20.490 --> 22:23.970 Amy's not there. Everybody in there acts like they've never heard of 22:24.470 --> 22:27.770 women, let alone a particular woman that you're looking for. This is a good, 22:28.270 --> 22:32.275 like, dusty backwoods. I mean, I mean, they do a nice job 22:32.355 --> 22:36.642 of showing how out of place this East Coast elite 22:36.707 --> 22:40.769 is, you know, at a real America food service facility. 22:40.882 --> 22:44.462 Yeah. And the way that he describes 22:44.655 --> 22:47.786 his wife is so unhelpful. Yeah. Oh, one thing, 22:48.027 --> 22:51.688 when he gets to Belle's Diner, it has an enormous dirt parking 22:51.720 --> 22:55.317 lot and everyone is parked completely arbitrarily. Oh, just crazy. Nobody's even 22:55.817 --> 22:59.332 parked that close. Like, it's just a random smattering of cars were dropped from an 22:59.832 --> 23:04.440 airplane. And he's like, he's like, yeah, my wife left. 23:04.940 --> 23:08.680 She was with a trucker with a baseball cap driving a big 18-wheeler. I love 23:09.180 --> 23:11.690 that so much. He's like 5'2, brown hair. It's like, yeah, it sounds like, 23:11.740 --> 23:15.340 you know, 80 million women throughout America. Like, holy shit. And then 23:15.840 --> 23:18.780 he gives the brand name of her sweater. Oh yeah. He's like, it was wearing 23:19.280 --> 23:22.920 a white Benetton sweater. Benetton? Yeah. It's not Benetton, 23:23.420 --> 23:26.340 is it? I thought it was Benetton. Is it not? I think probably. But anyway, 23:26.840 --> 23:28.900 he tries, and because the guy says a button-down sweater, and he's like, no, 23:29.400 --> 23:32.493 no, no. Benetton, whatever. Um, as if anybody, right, would give a shit what the 23:32.993 --> 23:35.319 brand of sweater she had on is. But, you know, basically, no, nobody's seen her. 23:35.608 --> 23:38.867 Yeah, the diner sort of bartender, whatever guy 23:38.915 --> 23:41.870 working the counter is like, sorry, pal, like, you know, I, I don't know if 23:42.370 --> 23:44.696 I— here's what he said. He says, did you see her? He says, I don't 23:45.196 --> 23:47.233 know. Or no, I didn't see her. He says, I didn't see her. I don't 23:47.733 --> 23:49.882 know if she was here or not, but I didn't see her. Right. Which is 23:49.914 --> 23:54.057 shady as shit. He's in full, uh, fucking guy getting questioned 23:54.089 --> 23:57.620 by, um, by the 23:58.120 --> 24:01.920 Law and Order SVU, you know, doing the like, maybe I did, maybe I didn't. 24:02.420 --> 24:05.540 It's like, fucking A, dude. It's— I actually thought it was kind of like the 24:06.040 --> 24:07.780 guy, the guy trying to put on a tough face for Chris Anson. Like, 24:08.280 --> 24:10.320 why'd you come here tonight? I don't know. Maybe I did come here. Maybe I 24:10.820 --> 24:13.400 didn't come here. You came here. You have condoms. Maybe I do. Maybe I don't 24:13.900 --> 24:15.780 have condoms. What are you talking about? But yeah, I got a lot of things 24:16.280 --> 24:20.340 in my bag. Yeah, right. Highlighters too. And maybe I'm gonna do homework. Art project. 24:20.840 --> 24:23.660 But yeah, so basically he feels like he's shit out of luck. So he's like, 24:24.160 --> 24:26.860 okay, well, Look, if she shows up, can you tell her to wait here for 24:27.360 --> 24:29.820 me and like not go anywhere? Like, you know, so he figures— I don't even 24:30.320 --> 24:32.400 know where he's driving. He's thinking about driving to that town they were talking about, 24:32.900 --> 24:35.600 what? But he just gets back out on the road. And then after, like, 24:36.100 --> 24:38.580 he looks off in front of him and like on a road kind of turnoff, 24:39.080 --> 24:42.560 he sees the truck that he thinks might be J.T. Walsh's, Red's truck, right? 24:43.060 --> 24:46.420 So he turns that way and is like heading down after him. He's like honking 24:46.920 --> 24:49.220 at him to try to— and Red is acting like, what are you doing? 24:49.720 --> 24:52.460 He looks at him, he's like, okay, pass me. Pass me. Like, who are you? 24:52.960 --> 24:54.100 So he gets in front of him after almost hitting a Winnebago coming down his 24:55.580 --> 24:58.460 Way, Jeff gets in front of him and kind of slows him down. Whatever, 24:58.960 --> 25:00.980 and it's like, and Red's like, "I've never seen you before in my life. 25:01.480 --> 25:04.060 I don't know what you're talking about." And so there's funny again, like there's little 25:04.560 --> 25:06.360 things that happen in my brain when I don't know what's coming in a movie. 25:06.860 --> 25:08.510 My first thought was like, "Fuck, is this one of those like twin things? 25:08.760 --> 25:10.770 It's like they're a good twin and a bad twin." And the ex is. 25:10.820 --> 25:13.740 It's like no, it's much simpler than that. TJ Walsh is twin brother. Yeah, 25:14.240 --> 25:18.240 right, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So he's just he's not giving him anything. 25:18.320 --> 25:20.020 No, no. He's like, "I have no idea what you're talking about." He's like, 25:20.520 --> 25:23.450 "No, you picked up my wife." He's like, look, look, man, I don't know. 25:23.490 --> 25:27.050 And then as they're having this discussion, a cop who looks a lot like Dr. 25:27.550 --> 25:30.550 Phil pulls up. Yes, he really did. And I think it was in Face/Off or 25:31.050 --> 25:33.850 The Rock or something. He's like an FBI guy. Totally. 25:34.350 --> 25:38.370 Yeah. So, so the cop comes up and he's flagged 25:38.870 --> 25:42.110 down, like Jack flags him down. He's like, he's like, hey, you gotta help me, 25:42.610 --> 25:44.750 you gotta help me, my wife is missing this guy. And of course the cop's 25:45.250 --> 25:48.670 like, calm down, calm down, sir, right? Because he's He's like, yeah, I'm not 25:49.170 --> 25:52.330 gonna believe the guy who's acting the craziest. But he investigates. I mean, 25:52.830 --> 25:55.910 this— Yeah, he goes and takes a look. He, in good faith, while respecting both 25:56.410 --> 25:59.650 of these guys, I feel like does look and is pretty thorough about it. 26:00.150 --> 26:03.190 This is not a movie that will earn the asshole cop tag on the website, 26:03.690 --> 26:06.390 'cause this guy does the right thing and he investigates. And when there is zero 26:06.890 --> 26:10.190 evidence of anything, and he's got one guy kind of freaking out and the other 26:10.690 --> 26:12.630 guy saying, look, I don't know what this man's talking about. I've never met him 26:13.130 --> 26:15.370 before in my life. I've never seen his wife. I don't know anything. Look through 26:15.870 --> 26:17.250 all my entire truck, whatever you wanna do. I don't know what's going on. 26:17.750 --> 26:20.910 I just wanna go. Like, the cop, what else is he supposed to 26:21.410 --> 26:24.830 do? He can't like just take Kurt Russell's word for it that something nefarious happened. 26:25.330 --> 26:28.750 But flip side, the fact that Jeff is freaking out is totally fucking reasonable too. 26:29.250 --> 26:31.370 He's like, no, no, no, no, no, this is the guy. Well, here's the one 26:31.870 --> 26:33.670 thing I did think he should have done, and I don't know if it would 26:34.170 --> 26:36.750 have mattered because it's still— there's no evidence, but they kept talking about, are you 26:37.250 --> 26:38.930 sure it was this truck? Did you see it was this truck? Are you sure 26:39.430 --> 26:41.510 she got into this truck? Yeah. My thing is like, he should have said, 26:42.010 --> 26:44.710 dude, that guy got out and helped me push my car to the side of 26:45.210 --> 26:47.610 the road and talked to me for like 3 minutes. Like, this is not a 26:48.110 --> 26:51.433 mistaken identity thing. I spoke with him. My wife got into 26:51.933 --> 26:55.200 like with him. Fuck the goddamn truck. It's him that 26:55.345 --> 26:57.701 helped us. And I know it's him. It just, I don't know that it would 26:58.201 --> 26:59.961 have made the cop do anything different 'cause there's still no evidence of anything, 27:00.073 --> 27:04.289 but at least it would have made him sound less crazy. People never satisfactorily 27:04.482 --> 27:08.024 explain themselves. I know it is, it is a frustration watching that. 27:08.105 --> 27:11.631 'Cause like, and also, I mean, I will say after watching this 27:12.131 --> 27:15.030 movie, like refreshing my memory, if my wife ever does take a ride, I'm at 27:15.062 --> 27:18.091 least jotting down the license plate of the car that she leaves in, right? 27:18.252 --> 27:22.400 That's a good point. One thing that this scene showed 27:22.900 --> 27:26.420 me early on, it's just a random unrelated to the plot, but when they get 27:26.920 --> 27:29.480 in and out of the truck, I didn't know that the seats had those like 27:29.980 --> 27:33.220 hydraulics under it, right? Yes, in the big rig. And then that made 27:33.720 --> 27:36.810 me be like, oh, that sounds fucking sick. But it's like, 27:37.120 --> 27:40.440 so because there's like no suspension on the truck itself, the only suspension 27:40.940 --> 27:44.420 is on your seat. Exactly. Yep. So yeah, I love that scene. 27:44.920 --> 27:47.840 But yeah, it turns out, you know, you must have confused my truck with somebody. 27:47.980 --> 27:50.440 So at one point, Red Bark says, hey, I don't want to butt in, 27:50.940 --> 27:54.191 but Maybe you confused my truck with somebody else, 27:54.239 --> 27:57.750 which is like the set card off. Like, he's— you talk— because again, 27:57.942 --> 28:00.411 that would have been a part where at least he could have said something like, 28:00.651 --> 28:04.226 fuck you, in the truck. Like, you got out and helped me push my car 28:04.274 --> 28:06.374 to the side of the road. Like, stop acting like you don't know me. 28:06.422 --> 28:09.340 Like, again, don't think it would have made a material difference, but it would have 28:09.840 --> 28:12.754 been a good argument for him to make, right, in the moment. And the cop's 28:13.254 --> 28:15.623 like, look, man, all I can do for you is I got a deputy in 28:15.656 --> 28:18.381 town. Go into town, file a report with him. That's all you can do. 28:18.445 --> 28:22.370 Go see my dad. So, uh, so before he does that, he pops back 28:22.870 --> 28:25.410 into Bell's. Oh no, he goes to the deputy first. Oh, he goes to the 28:25.910 --> 28:29.110 deputy first. And he goes in and basically he's like giving information about it. 28:29.610 --> 28:31.550 And the guy's saying like, hey, you know, so sorry, like this does happen. 28:32.050 --> 28:34.530 People go missing. I'm so sorry this happened to you. And, and, and Jeff is 28:35.030 --> 28:38.250 looking at this wall of missing people's reports. And it really does seem like this 28:38.750 --> 28:41.610 is a tiny podunk town in the middle of nowhere. And there are a fuck 28:42.110 --> 28:45.810 ton of people missing in this area. It's, it's very— There's nobody 28:46.310 --> 28:48.770 on the case. It's very, well, it's a very good job of showing us that 28:49.270 --> 28:52.621 something's going on around town. Right? Like, there is something happening here. And, and he 28:53.121 --> 28:56.822 spends probably more time than is necessary. Not that I'm gonna tell a 93-minute movie 28:56.838 --> 28:59.644 it needs anything cut, but like, this scene probably was slightly longer than it needed 29:00.144 --> 29:01.937 to be because most of it is just Kurt Russell staring at the wall. 29:02.129 --> 29:05.208 Yeah. And the guy being like, uh, sir, okay, like, 29:06.074 --> 29:09.521 good luck. Like, right, there's nothing else to do right now. Maybe though, more efficient 29:10.021 --> 29:13.337 than other— in another way, explaining that there's been a lot of people missing 29:13.433 --> 29:16.912 from the town and stuff. So then he heads back to— so he files a 29:17.412 --> 29:21.193 report, right? He goes back to Bell's and he's just 29:21.693 --> 29:23.877 Like, he's like, hey, remember me? I was— it's like, how the fuck would that 29:24.377 --> 29:27.393 guy not remember? It's all the same people in the same seats. You're only the— 29:27.893 --> 29:30.621 you're the only rich asshole who walked in here today. Everybody else is covered in 29:31.121 --> 29:34.843 a layer of dust and methamphetamine. You're the only guy with a double-popped collar walking 29:34.875 --> 29:38.407 in here. Um, and, and he is very like— he's 29:38.907 --> 29:42.598 very pushy towards the, uh, the proprietor of Bell's, right? You know, where's my wife? 29:42.646 --> 29:45.247 Where's my wife? The guy's like— and this guy's getting pissed. He's like, look, 29:45.311 --> 29:48.358 man, And I told you, I didn't fucking see it. She might have been in 29:48.858 --> 29:51.404 here, she might not have, but I did not see it. And this is the 29:51.904 --> 29:54.018 thing where there's a few moments in this movie, and this is one of them 29:54.050 --> 29:57.096 where I was like, you know, at this point it's clear because of the whole 29:57.596 --> 30:00.431 J.T. Walsh thing, it's like, okay, so there's a nefarious thing going on. 30:01.570 --> 30:04.520 I felt like at this point I knew M.C. Gainey was in on it because 30:04.536 --> 30:08.336 he was just kind of already an antagonist. So it's like, is this 30:08.384 --> 30:11.912 diner guy also like part of this? And I feel like the 30:12.412 --> 30:15.198 end result, I'll just say, I feel like is no, he's not. He's just— he 30:15.698 --> 30:18.420 just knows about it and is not about to get his neck— stick his neck 30:18.920 --> 30:22.155 out to these dangerous people doing this thing. Like, I feel like he knows 30:22.268 --> 30:25.634 what's happening, but he's just like, I'm not— I don't— you know, my name's Paul 30:26.134 --> 30:29.032 and this is between y'all. Yeah, yeah. You know, like, so yeah, I wasn't sure 30:29.064 --> 30:32.334 if it was like that he actually knew or that we're being 30:32.431 --> 30:36.663 shown like the— that Jeff is perceiving everybody 30:36.759 --> 30:39.885 as against him, right? There's that too. And it gets— could be one and the 30:40.385 --> 30:43.540 same where even if he's just a like, I don't get involved with shit guy, 30:43.588 --> 30:46.780 then you are kind of in on it, right? In a sense. Yeah. Um, 30:47.280 --> 30:50.820 so, so he's, he's pissed, right? And then he's like, he sees the, 30:51.320 --> 30:54.900 uh, proprietor looking through the order slips. He's like, oh, the checks, 30:55.400 --> 30:58.020 the checks. And, you know, Jeff's like, oh, let me see those. And just, 30:58.520 --> 30:59.820 he's like, fuck, I'm not getting this done. If my wife was here, her name 31:00.320 --> 31:02.700 would be on one of these, which is like, not necessarily, not if the trucker 31:03.200 --> 31:06.320 bought lunch for her or something, whatever. Like, the point being, who knows? But he 31:06.820 --> 31:09.360 goes to look and the dude pulls a gun on him for grabbing the checks, 31:09.860 --> 31:12.500 which is like maybe a little bit of an overreaction, but he's just tired of 31:13.000 --> 31:14.540 Jeff at this point. He's like, get the fuck out of my diner, man. 31:15.040 --> 31:18.860 Like, Leave, and so then walk your ass across our random parking lot. 31:19.240 --> 31:21.820 Yeah, back out to the park. Back to finally to the payphone. So he gets 31:22.320 --> 31:24.620 out to the payphone. I don't know if he's planning on calling the deputy again 31:25.120 --> 31:26.720 and basically saying like, "Hey man, a guy just pulled a gun on me at 31:27.220 --> 31:28.980 Bell's Diner." I think that's the idea. Yeah. But before he can get there, 31:29.480 --> 31:33.220 this other guy Billy is like you know acting like Simple Jack. 31:33.720 --> 31:37.080 Yeah. Are you the one looking for your wife? Yeah. I got a good good 31:37.580 --> 31:41.060 good good good good brain. Like yeah. He's ranking below 31:41.560 --> 31:45.505 Smiley in that, but. Yeah, so, so Billy's, 31:45.634 --> 31:49.071 uh, explaining and he's like, he's like, oh yeah, I saw her. 31:49.184 --> 31:52.798 She got on, she was here and then she got onto another truck, right? 31:53.183 --> 31:56.476 Which way she go? She's like, of course, right? This slow guy who 31:56.976 --> 31:59.913 can barely get a word out and he knows every detail perfectly. 32:00.250 --> 32:03.768 Up north by the river. Yeah. And then finally, but then finally to say, 32:03.800 --> 32:06.338 I'm not saying anything else. Like, you know, like he seems scared, you know? 32:06.386 --> 32:10.305 So. Right. And then, uh, and then Jeff says another 32:10.369 --> 32:13.932 great line from the trailer. Jeff's like, oh, why don't you call the, 32:14.220 --> 32:17.093 call the police? And he's like, you kidding? 32:17.591 --> 32:21.041 Police ones in on it. Right. Uh-oh. 32:22.116 --> 32:25.358 Um, but yeah, so then he gets— so then he starts driving 32:25.390 --> 32:28.648 that direction, like he's given like a direction to drive. And so he's going and, 32:28.825 --> 32:31.328 uh, he's got the cell phone back out and he's trying to call a friend 32:31.828 --> 32:34.586 of his. And like that guy has a friend at the FBI or something, 32:35.003 --> 32:38.210 trying to get a hold, but like that's reception super spotty and like dropping and 32:38.710 --> 32:42.170 it's getting frustrating. And then he hits a, you know, the place, the way, 32:42.670 --> 32:44.990 basically the way they sent him was to a dead end, to a closed road. 32:45.060 --> 32:47.430 Yep. And so he gets up there and sure enough, coming up behind him is 32:47.930 --> 32:51.130 that F-150 pickup truck with MC Gainey in it. And he's got a rifle and 32:51.630 --> 32:55.370 he's like, get out of the car. And so Jeff gets and busts through the 32:55.870 --> 32:59.650 fences. And this is just a fantastic car chase. Yeah. Really amazing, 33:00.150 --> 33:02.810 you know, along this sort of like construction, you know, this highway, but it's under 33:03.310 --> 33:05.310 construction. So there's parts of it that are potholes and parts of it that are 33:05.810 --> 33:07.770 dirt and there's all this kind of stuff and he's gotta like dodge these, 33:07.882 --> 33:11.215 uh, really enormous, you know, uh, construction equipment and everything. 33:12.032 --> 33:15.605 And it's really wonderful. Any negative perception about the Jeep 33:15.653 --> 33:18.938 Grand Cherokee that you would have had from the beginning of the movie is erased 33:19.438 --> 33:22.367 by how awesome it's like managing all these— Note here, I got to get me 33:22.867 --> 33:26.245 a Grand Cherokee because it really kills it in this chase. And then it's 33:26.745 --> 33:28.632 like, and then he goes and he's— it looks like he's at a cliff edge, 33:28.648 --> 33:31.436 like a real cliff edge, but turns out it's just a very steep slope. 33:31.661 --> 33:34.160 But at the bottom is just the river and he's just like, I got nowhere 33:34.660 --> 33:38.139 else to go, dude's got a drives down, slides on the thing, and gets into 33:38.172 --> 33:41.446 the water and is like floating down the river while MC Gainey keeps shooting at 33:41.946 --> 33:45.443 him. The drive down was really funny. Oh man. Yeah, 'cause he's just barreling down 33:45.475 --> 33:49.087 this hill going, as you wish, right? 33:49.424 --> 33:52.651 Uh, so, so MC Gainey is like shooting 33:52.699 --> 33:55.941 at him very accurately, right? And the problem, 33:56.134 --> 33:59.376 I mean, he's getting close. He's getting close, it's true. 33:59.585 --> 34:03.280 And I thought that, uh, there was a bit of a miss here a 34:03.780 --> 34:07.120 bit of a missed opportunity in that his truck is like in 34:07.620 --> 34:10.260 the water and it seems like he can't go out one of the windows because 34:10.760 --> 34:12.620 he's getting shot at. So he has to go the other way out of the 34:13.120 --> 34:16.780 car. If it was like a failure of the automatic window as opposed to the 34:17.280 --> 34:19.940 crank window where like he can't get it down, so he has to go out 34:20.440 --> 34:24.140 the dangerous way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But again, the Chrysler Corporation wouldn't allow 34:24.640 --> 34:27.280 for that. I also think he probably for his own safety should have actually— oh, 34:27.780 --> 34:29.980 that's where the car got stuck. That's what happened, right? The car itself got stuck 34:30.480 --> 34:32.400 in the rocks. I'm like, why doesn't he just like stay behind it then? 34:32.900 --> 34:34.935 Is it— but it had stopped moving. He had to keep going. He had Yeah, 34:35.897 --> 34:39.233 he's really— he's river wilding it, and he's able 34:39.733 --> 34:42.986 to climb out, and he's kind of like checking out the scene after the fact. 34:43.050 --> 34:46.755 And he's looking, and he can see that now another truck has shown up 34:46.963 --> 34:50.331 with a winch that's pulling his Jeep out of the river. Yeah. And there's a 34:50.831 --> 34:54.485 couple guys talking about, yeah, they got away. And it's M.C. Gainey, whose character's name 34:54.517 --> 34:58.414 is Earl. So it's Earl and this other kind of fat guy who was driving 34:58.510 --> 35:01.800 the truck when Jeff almost hit it at the beginning. Okay. He was actually 35:02.300 --> 35:04.960 the one driving. That's why when MC Gainey says, uh, I saw what happened, 35:05.460 --> 35:07.600 is because he wasn't the one driving. Okay, gotcha. Um, so there's this other guy 35:08.100 --> 35:10.360 and they're just yelling about like, oh man, like this is what happens when you 35:10.860 --> 35:13.040 don't get them both. Oh, goddamn it. So it's like, oh wow, so this is 35:13.540 --> 35:17.260 like a planned thing, like the whole deal. Uh, and before, uh, 35:17.760 --> 35:20.940 uh, Jeff can do anything about it or go anywhere else, he basically hears a 35:21.440 --> 35:24.480 sound behind him, turns around, and Billy is there. Yeah. Not as simple as he 35:24.980 --> 35:27.428 played, right? And just smacks him with the butt of a rifle, knocks him out. 35:27.476 --> 35:30.490 Single strike KO. We love to see him. Yep. Um, 35:31.340 --> 35:34.546 as he comes to, you know, he's got the guys like slapping him in the 35:35.046 --> 35:38.537 face, you know, waking him up very unpleasantly. And we got Billy looking at 35:39.037 --> 35:42.016 him, and of course he's talking now in his regular voice. He's like, I'm not 35:42.516 --> 35:46.777 slow, whatever. Yeah. I love when a character is like, they're pretending, 35:46.809 --> 35:50.704 right? So he's pretending to be slow, and he— they add in unnecessary 35:50.800 --> 35:54.311 details. Okay. Where he's just like, I always wanted to get 35:54.407 --> 35:58.174 my truck driver's license. Like, why the fuck did you say— like, 35:58.190 --> 36:01.600 just doing a little Extra character work, like they're like do your henchman 36:02.100 --> 36:04.860 work and he's freelancing a little bit. Yeah, but it's also like I feel like 36:05.360 --> 36:08.760 from a character standpoint, it's a good deflection by adding stupid little details 36:09.260 --> 36:12.200 like that. You seem less threatening. Yeah, yeah. The more you're willing to just tell 36:12.700 --> 36:15.160 somebody a weird thing about your life, the less threatening you seem. Totally, you know. 36:15.660 --> 36:18.420 So definitely. And maybe he's better at this kind of thing than I'm giving him 36:18.920 --> 36:20.660 credit for. I think he's part of the crew. Billy's part of the crew and 36:21.160 --> 36:23.520 he certainly seems like he's doing a good job. Now Red's obviously in charge. 36:24.020 --> 36:25.860 We got Earl, we got Fat Guy. I don't know his name. And then we 36:26.360 --> 36:28.660 got Billy. So it's like a pretty good sized crew at least at this point. 36:29.160 --> 36:29.180 And we don't know who else is or isn't involved, right? I mean, I think 36:29.680 --> 36:33.000 there's There's several points that we're gonna get to where they talk about, 36:33.140 --> 36:35.980 we'll be watching, we'll be seeing. It's like, well, it's not like they have cameras 36:36.480 --> 36:39.220 everywhere. It's down in the middle of nowhere, but there's somebody that's keeping an eye 36:39.720 --> 36:43.400 on things. So basically Billy says, your wife told us an amount 36:43.900 --> 36:46.060 of money that you have in your bank account, and I'm gonna need you to 36:46.560 --> 36:49.260 give me the exact same figure right now or I'm gonna kill you right here. 36:49.760 --> 36:52.580 The idea being, did she lie about what they have? 36:53.080 --> 36:55.020 Right. Or is it true? If it's true, you'll both say the same thing. 36:55.520 --> 36:59.120 And he starts going, well, you know, balances fluctuate and whatever. And so Earl says, 36:59.380 --> 37:00.960 oh, fuck it, let's just kill him. He's no Donut King, the bitch was lying. 37:02.760 --> 37:06.340 And that's the clue he needs to go, she's $90,000. 37:06.840 --> 37:10.280 'Cause in the river he had also seen the package of donuts float by him. 37:10.780 --> 37:13.680 So we got like another little reminder right before this scene. Good stuff. Good, 37:14.180 --> 37:16.160 good, good planting of things and bringing them back and everything. I love it. 37:16.660 --> 37:20.900 And it is cool to think that Amy had the same thought when she tried 37:21.400 --> 37:23.100 to save her own ass by saying, no, no, no, no, if you, if you, 37:23.600 --> 37:26.460 you know, my husband will pay, like we've got $90,000 or whatever, that she used 37:26.960 --> 37:29.940 that amount. That was smart as it turns out, you know, and because he ended 37:30.440 --> 37:32.740 up having to say the same thing and did, which is really cool. Yeah. 37:33.240 --> 37:37.200 And I like when, when the dollar amount Is, uh, you know, something like that. 37:37.700 --> 37:40.430 Like in Thief, I think the dollar amount was very random. It was like $274,000. 37:41.660 --> 37:44.380 $243,372.14. 37:44.840 --> 37:47.820 Like, so it is kind of funny. Um, so, 37:48.320 --> 37:51.820 uh, so Red Bar— yeah, starts— this is like one 37:52.320 --> 37:55.440 of the sickest things that he says, right? Yeah, yeah. Where he's saying, uh, 37:55.940 --> 37:58.680 you know, you get me this money, you know, and I have something you might 37:59.180 --> 38:03.089 be interested in. Yeah. Uh, it's about 5'5, 115 3 38:03.589 --> 38:07.613 or 4 of that's just pure tit. Nice curly brown hair upstairs 38:07.790 --> 38:11.736 and down. It's like brutal, brutal. I think that that's what 38:12.236 --> 38:15.249 the Saturn Awards, whichever one he was nominated for, is like, yeah, 38:15.265 --> 38:17.799 that was it, dude. I want to point out a few things here. So, 38:18.296 --> 38:21.729 you know, we've seen a few of these thrillers. You know, I think characters 38:22.002 --> 38:25.242 obviously like, like Max Cady is a great scary character. Wade, 38:25.290 --> 38:28.868 Kevin Bacon in River Wild, is a really scary kind of guy. There's— and they're 38:28.900 --> 38:32.733 memorable, right? And there's something about J.T. Walsh's Red Bar that he's 38:32.766 --> 38:35.398 not as memorable But it is J.T. 38:35.478 --> 38:39.283 Walsh's playing of him as pedestrian evil 38:39.893 --> 38:43.858 that works so well. Yeah. And there is this underlying 38:44.709 --> 38:47.839 sinister element with a layer on 38:48.339 --> 38:50.536 top of it that is just like normal truck driver dude. And there's just something 38:50.568 --> 38:53.747 so everyday about him, and yet this 38:54.164 --> 38:57.199 just undercurrent of pure evil, willing to do anything for money kind of thing. 38:57.616 --> 39:00.297 Doesn't matter who he kills, who he destroys, whatever. I mean, it's really nasty. 39:00.522 --> 39:03.918 But like, there is like, the thing that made Walsh so good in this role 39:04.992 --> 39:08.004 is kind of what I think made the character less memorable, maybe the movie less 39:08.196 --> 39:11.817 kind of like bombastic. But it really is Walsh doing just an absolutely amazing job. 39:12.057 --> 39:15.838 By the way, last movie released during his lifetime. He passed 39:15.902 --> 39:18.546 in 1998. Oh, really? He died that soon after? Yeah, so this was the last 39:19.046 --> 39:21.174 movie that he was in that came out while he was alive. Yeah, he died 39:21.590 --> 39:25.548 relatively young. Yeah, it is interesting. It's this kind of evil 39:25.596 --> 39:29.249 that like, is for its own sake. 'Cause whatever scores 39:29.345 --> 39:32.870 they're getting, by kidnapping people or whatever, they're not getting rich 39:33.370 --> 39:36.970 off of it. No, no. And his life is such a normal-ass truck driver life 39:37.470 --> 39:40.170 that it's like, oh, you're just doing this stuff 'cause— For shits and gigs, 39:40.670 --> 39:43.330 basically, it seems like. Yeah. So, but basically he tells him, he's like, look, 39:43.830 --> 39:46.410 you've got 90 grand. You're gonna walk down to this. This is the town of 39:46.910 --> 39:49.050 Brackett. This is all, there's only 2 cops in this town. One of them's out 39:49.550 --> 39:52.150 on patrol. One of them is in, you know, that station right there. Here's some 39:52.650 --> 39:56.170 binoculars. You know, Billy just called in an accident on an I-40. 39:56.670 --> 39:58.450 It's gonna take 'em 20 minutes to get out there, 10 minutes to realize there's 39:58.950 --> 40:01.890 no accident, 20 minutes to get back. minutes with no cops in town. 40:02.390 --> 40:05.350 Yep. Don't fuck this up. Don't call anybody. Don't tell anybody. If we see anything, 40:05.850 --> 40:07.390 you know, your wife is dead. Like all this stuff. You go down to that 40:07.890 --> 40:12.030 bank, you get them to wire you the $90,000 in cash. You pull it out, 40:12.530 --> 40:14.970 you bring it up to me. You've got 50 minutes. Go. Yeah. And it's like, 40:15.470 --> 40:17.750 fuck. And we know he doesn't have 90 grand because like Amy and Jeff talked 40:18.250 --> 40:20.550 about their money troubles and like whatever kind of thing there that they, that they 40:21.050 --> 40:24.190 were, you know, sort of like risking it all to make this move and kind 40:24.690 --> 40:27.000 of all this thing. And they're not in great shape, so they don't have That 40:27.500 --> 40:30.400 money. We know that they don't have that money. Also, 40:31.060 --> 40:34.380 have you ever tried to get cash more than 40:34.880 --> 40:37.900 like $5,000 out of the bank? It's very— you have to like call in advance. 40:38.000 --> 40:41.240 I think we talked about this before, but like if you have to pay a 40:41.740 --> 40:45.620 contractor or something, sometimes they want to get cash and it's like $15,000. I have 40:46.120 --> 40:49.160 to go to the bank on 2 separate days to do that. Was that true 40:49.660 --> 40:52.840 pre-Patriot Act though? Maybe not. See, I feel like a lot of that changed with 40:53.340 --> 40:56.860 the Patriot Act post-9/11. Some of those like AML kind of— Definitely more cash 40:57.360 --> 41:00.000 heavy, more likely to have that kind of cash then. But it is funny, 41:00.500 --> 41:03.840 it's this like, yeah, this tiny town. This is kind of like the towns in— 41:04.340 --> 41:07.140 you ever see that movie Hell or High Water where they're like robbing these banks? 41:07.640 --> 41:10.300 Oh, I have actually. I've heard of it. It's awesome. Taylor Sheridan. And, 41:11.570 --> 41:15.240 and it's like one of these banks that they were getting in that town. 41:15.740 --> 41:18.140 So yeah, sort of like the one— it's the one that John Goodman and whoever 41:18.640 --> 41:21.820 like knocked over in Raising Arizona. It's like that kind of town. 100%. And we're 41:22.320 --> 41:25.820 in Arizona too. Yeah, the visual of this town is great. And the idea 41:26.320 --> 41:28.780 that like, I'm down in this place, I am the only one who's anything like 41:29.280 --> 41:32.250 me here. Yeah, I don't who the fuck is in on it. This is this 41:32.362 --> 41:36.042 guy's town and he's watching me, right? And, and I love the tension 41:36.138 --> 41:39.126 here. Yeah, they have it. Really like this. They put a jacket, a specific jacket 41:39.190 --> 41:42.436 on him, which, you know, they don't say explicitly, 41:42.500 --> 41:45.103 but it's sort of inferred that like this is how they'll keep track of him 41:45.151 --> 41:48.428 and how other people might know who he is who aren't 41:48.928 --> 41:52.027 even here and involved. Yeah, right. Like it's his whatever, because he gets down to 41:52.059 --> 41:54.613 the bank, he's talking to the teller and he's talking about how, you know, 41:54.646 --> 41:57.023 the balance in the account is 5 grand. He's like, but I also have this 41:57.523 --> 41:59.830 credit card, can you Can you advance me, you know, the limit of the credit 42:00.330 --> 42:02.950 card? And the guy's like, no, not really. And so he's like, okay. So he 42:03.450 --> 42:06.150 starts trying to tell the guy like under his breath, like, there are these men 42:06.650 --> 42:09.750 that they have my wife, please keep riding, whatever. And this random dude walks up 42:10.250 --> 42:11.850 and is like, hey, they told me I should talk to you about an auto 42:12.350 --> 42:14.630 loan, to the teller. And he goes to the bank manager guy and he goes, 42:15.130 --> 42:17.690 oh, well, just take a seat over there, like whatever. But like now Kurt Russell's 42:18.190 --> 42:20.590 like, shit, is this guy in on it? Yeah. And here's what I love. 42:20.970 --> 42:24.110 I know that the movie is not explicit about this. I don't think this man 42:24.610 --> 42:27.775 has any idea No, I don't either. But I think it's straight paranoia. 42:27.983 --> 42:31.896 But I didn't fully, like, come to that conclusion until I was done 42:31.912 --> 42:35.311 watching the movie. Okay. Because I agree. Yes, it was. Yes. 42:35.600 --> 42:38.999 Fuck. And, and this is a great sense. I mean, the way they 42:39.499 --> 42:42.992 make you feel so disoriented and, like, alone and surveilled 42:43.492 --> 42:46.904 and all this stuff in this area is incredibly well done. I do want 42:47.404 --> 42:50.159 to point out gas, $1.57. I saw that too. Got it. 42:50.849 --> 42:55.386 Got to do that. So they're able to give Jeff his 42:55.482 --> 42:59.233 money. This guy's working on it, right? And Jeff is 42:59.265 --> 43:02.856 like, as the guy's getting it together, he's going in the bathroom, 43:02.872 --> 43:06.094 he's very sweaty, he's kind of looking around in the bathroom, is there anything I 43:06.158 --> 43:09.220 can use as a weapon? He's really racking his brain, what the fuck can I 43:09.348 --> 43:12.971 do here? He ends up going back to the desk and he grabs off the 43:13.035 --> 43:16.498 desk a letter opener. He also grabs these bands that 43:16.998 --> 43:19.864 they use to bundle different packages together. Which why those would be sitting out on 43:20.364 --> 43:23.150 the dude's desk like that doesn't make any sense. I don't know, but I would 43:23.214 --> 43:25.920 look, can you just guess I just want those. 43:27.180 --> 43:30.140 Yeah. So, yeah. And incredibly, I will say, 43:30.640 --> 43:34.840 like, if you're going to go through something like this, Kurt is incredibly disheveled 43:35.340 --> 43:38.780 and you really got to shovel yourself a little bit to, to make these 43:39.280 --> 43:42.060 transactions. I will say this is actually an indication that that man asking about the 43:42.560 --> 43:45.520 auto loan is not involved with Red, because when Jeff leaves the bank, he's got 43:46.020 --> 43:48.680 this bundle of cash, right? And we know he doesn't have $5,000 in there. 43:49.180 --> 43:51.680 Yeah. Right. But he stole the bands. So my first thought was, ooh, I bet 43:52.180 --> 43:53.960 he does like the thing with the hundreds on the outside and then does the 43:54.460 --> 43:57.570 bands and it'll look legit at first. first, you know, kind of thing. But that 43:57.602 --> 44:00.814 would have taken time to set up. And if a dude involved in the 44:01.314 --> 44:04.332 thing was there watching over him, he never would have been able to do that. 44:04.541 --> 44:07.560 So there's that. But like, he walks out with this bundle, you know, like a 44:07.737 --> 44:10.194 knapsack, whatever, canvas bag of this money. 44:11.110 --> 44:14.723 And he walks up to a payphone that rings. Red is there. And he 44:15.223 --> 44:19.124 goes, it's me. And he goes, I fucking know it's you. I can see you. 44:19.526 --> 44:23.444 That might be the only joke in the movie. Yeah, it's very good. But basically 44:23.476 --> 44:27.025 tells him like, walk down this street that direction, keep going, the first car 44:27.089 --> 44:30.140 that stops, get in. Yep. Right, which is like a little risky because what if 44:30.640 --> 44:33.190 somebody picks him up offering to hitchhike? Sure. I mean, it's not the '80s, 44:33.431 --> 44:36.546 so hitchhiking was a little less popular by the '90s, but still. So he walks 44:37.046 --> 44:39.581 for a while, stops when a couple of trucks go by. Nobody ends up stopping 44:39.677 --> 44:43.162 until sure enough, it's that F-150 again, the kind 44:43.662 --> 44:47.111 of gray beat-up looking one from the beginning of the movie. Earl, played by M.C. 44:47.160 --> 44:49.670 Gainey, is driving. You know, get the, you know, get over here, throw the bag 44:50.170 --> 44:52.390 in. And he's like, no, you know, you show me my wife first. He's like, 44:52.890 --> 44:55.210 fuck you, that's not how this works. Like, get in the car. So he like 44:55.710 --> 44:57.670 duct tapes his hands behind his back and gets him in the car, and he's 44:58.170 --> 45:00.610 gonna like take him. And he keeps talking about how stupid he is, all this 45:01.110 --> 45:04.590 stuff. And like, here's my thing, like, you have absolutely zero reason to think these 45:05.090 --> 45:08.390 people won't just kill you both once you give them the money, right? Why would 45:08.890 --> 45:12.190 they let you go? You've seen their faces. Like, it's, you know, 45:12.690 --> 45:15.970 so— I mean, it's just that desperation holding out, like buying yourself a little 45:16.470 --> 45:19.217 bit more time to figure out how to save the day. day. But yeah, 45:19.233 --> 45:22.278 he's like, yo, you must be the dumbest shit yet, right? 45:22.903 --> 45:26.989 And, uh, and Kurt, uh, and Jeff in the meantime has gotten the letter 45:27.005 --> 45:30.290 opener, kind of gotten it out of his sleeve. So he's working a bit 45:30.790 --> 45:34.007 at the duct tape, but he's pretty taped up in there. And, uh, and Earl 45:34.119 --> 45:37.629 is kind of like flipping through the money and smelling it. Oh, I love smelling 45:37.725 --> 45:41.026 the money. It must smell great. But that's how he notices that it's a 45:41.526 --> 45:44.295 bunch of singles inside a few hundreds. And he's like, well, these are nothing but 45:44.795 --> 45:48.739 singles, But that's when Jeff gets free of the duct tape, stabs him in kind 45:49.239 --> 45:51.575 of not the neck, but I guess the upper chest, shoulder, or whatever with the 45:51.656 --> 45:55.116 letter opener. And now the truck is going crazy and all this stuff. And there's 45:55.616 --> 45:57.465 a gun that he's able to get away from Earl. 45:59.493 --> 46:02.744 And basically, like, I think, did they crash or did they just stop 46:03.244 --> 46:05.720 eventually? Oh no, that's right. He stops him and he duct tapes him to the 46:06.220 --> 46:08.730 chair. Right. So he's able to tape him and he tapes around his neck. 46:08.814 --> 46:12.564 So then as Jeff is driving the truck, he can slam 46:12.612 --> 46:16.155 on the brakes, which like causes Earl to get choked. And then it kind of 46:16.655 --> 46:19.714 stays almost like a seat belt. I mean, yeah, it just like— because 46:20.214 --> 46:23.258 it's stuck to you too. Like, yeah, it really hurts. Uh, so as they're 46:23.758 --> 46:26.368 driving down the road and he's, you know, where is she? Where is she? 46:26.529 --> 46:30.457 Oh, fuck you, whatever, trying to get this info. Yeah. And then that cop 46:30.957 --> 46:33.792 from before is coming the other direction and sees this shit. He's like, 46:33.904 --> 46:37.191 what is going on? He whips around and, and, uh, and pulls them over. 46:37.271 --> 46:40.751 Yeah. Uh, the cop clearly is like, 46:41.296 --> 46:43.990 Jeff gets out of the car, he's like, with the gun, sir, sir, waving, 46:44.247 --> 46:47.294 put the gun down, put the gun— he throws the gun down a hill instead 46:47.794 --> 46:50.999 of placing it on the ground, right? And the cop doesn't want to hear a 46:51.063 --> 46:54.383 word from him until he's on the ground, which you understand, right? Reasonable. 46:54.448 --> 46:58.024 Yeah, for sure. But unfortunately, Earl had a little tiny 46:58.121 --> 47:00.943 like pistol in his shoe, so he's able to get free of the duct tape, 47:01.344 --> 47:04.520 get the gun out of his shoe, and as he's saying to the cop, 47:04.536 --> 47:07.615 sir, sir, I'm in here, please don't shoot, please don't hurt me, you know, 47:07.632 --> 47:10.869 shoots the cop in the neck. Yeah. Uh, and then, and then, you know, 47:10.885 --> 47:14.170 shoots at Jeff or whatever, but he's heading down the hill looking for that 47:14.670 --> 47:17.391 gun he threw. And right when it looks like Earl's gonna shoot him and kill 47:17.891 --> 47:20.500 him because the gun's too far away for him to grab, Earl is shot by 47:21.000 --> 47:23.800 the cop, uh, and dropped to the ground. And so that is, that is it 47:23.849 --> 47:27.518 for Earl. And the cop— this is, uh, this is Jeff not 47:27.534 --> 47:30.819 helping here. So the cop has his radio, he's like, you know, 47:30.979 --> 47:34.264 officer down, whatever, I'm here. And he's doing the thing that you're 47:34.280 --> 47:37.790 supposed to do to get get the— to get help. Yeah. And then Jeff just 47:37.806 --> 47:41.380 walks over and picks up the CB from him and waits like 15 47:41.412 --> 47:44.746 seconds, and then he's like, send an ambulance, 47:44.938 --> 47:48.240 he's been shot. It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, what? Officer down is 47:48.740 --> 47:52.391 pretty much a code for get an ambulance. It's not like officer down to fuck 47:52.891 --> 47:56.318 or officer down to get some nachos after work. Did he think— did Jeff maybe 47:56.818 --> 47:59.973 think, oh, this is gonna bring a bunch of cops or state police or whatever, 48:00.566 --> 48:03.707 and that's gonna make Red kill Amy, so let's stop that? 48:03.771 --> 48:06.870 Because that That's not— I'm not really sure what that was. I didn't fully understand 48:06.886 --> 48:09.262 that part. Not the strongest moment in the film for sure. 48:09.953 --> 48:13.550 But so now the cop's down, Earl's down, and Jeff 48:14.050 --> 48:16.922 is on his way, and he got some information from Earl. Earl told him we're 48:16.938 --> 48:19.973 gonna go to this truck stop, the Texaco on, you know, whatever highway, 48:19.989 --> 48:22.365 right? So he knows sort of where to head, where he was gonna be bringing 48:22.381 --> 48:26.058 the money. I love this. We get to the truck stop, and yeah, God, 48:26.074 --> 48:28.515 I've never seen so many big rigs in one place in my life. Like, 48:28.563 --> 48:31.935 honestly, I've been to truck stops along Highway 5 and stuff. Nothing like this. 48:32.000 --> 48:35.540 There's got to be 100 18-wheelers here. It's crazy. 48:36.040 --> 48:39.720 And a good scene of the confusion of like, dude, all these vehicles are identical 48:40.220 --> 48:43.680 as far as I'm concerned. All these guys look roughly the same. All got baseball 48:44.180 --> 48:46.140 caps on. And he's just trying to find— and he still doesn't really have a 48:46.640 --> 48:49.640 plan other than like, I got to see somebody familiar. He does have the gun. 48:50.140 --> 48:52.320 He got the gun from the ground. So he's got the gun with him. 48:52.460 --> 48:56.360 And he is walking around. And then he almost walks into Red. 48:56.860 --> 48:59.220 And Red is on a payphone. He's on the phone. We're not sure with who, 48:59.720 --> 49:02.040 but he's talking about the plan. And no, Earl's not here. There's cops everywhere. 49:02.540 --> 49:05.880 I'm just going to go— let's go back. to the barn and regroup. Uh, 49:06.380 --> 49:07.760 Earl knows to meet, you know, if it breaks down, that's where we're supposed to 49:08.260 --> 49:10.420 meet. So let's all go back to the barn. Um, and he goes and leaves. 49:10.920 --> 49:14.560 And so Jeff follows him, sees what truck he gets into, and really cool scene 49:15.060 --> 49:17.580 of like running after the truck. And then like, I'm thinking to myself, is he 49:18.080 --> 49:19.700 going to try to get into the back? Because you can't open those trucks when 49:20.200 --> 49:23.280 they're moving. No. That's too, too many moves to get the thing open, you know. 49:23.780 --> 49:25.700 But he doesn't. He goes and he runs up alongside of it and sort of 49:26.200 --> 49:29.520 jumps underneath it, like, uh, Clark Griswold in Christmas Vacation driving 49:30.020 --> 49:32.800 under the big Under the logging truck, he kind of jumps underneath and is like 49:33.300 --> 49:35.640 hanging onto this thing. We get a great moment out on the highway where a 49:36.140 --> 49:39.320 kid is like looking at him from like the back window of a station wagon 49:39.820 --> 49:42.380 or whatever. But he's like climbing up and I wasn't really sure what he was 49:42.880 --> 49:46.060 going for here. I was imagining an Indiana Jones sort of jump in and get 49:46.560 --> 49:48.160 Red. Get the kid, yeah. But then it's like, but then you're never gonna see 49:48.660 --> 49:50.620 Amy again if you like beat her. And so he kind of does this thing 49:51.120 --> 49:54.900 where he somehow doesn't get noticed in the rearview mirror, which those 49:55.400 --> 49:58.740 rearviews are angled specifically to show truck drivers what is happening along the side 49:59.240 --> 50:02.963 of their truck. Trailers, but he's able to get to kind of that spot between 50:02.979 --> 50:05.983 the cab and the trailer and kind of hang out there while the truck drives. 50:06.192 --> 50:09.631 Yeah, he can see— found his good like train hopping location to sit 50:09.663 --> 50:13.263 there. Yeah, and this was a really cool scene of him climbing his way 50:13.279 --> 50:16.605 up there, and throughout this climb he lost the gun. That's right, 50:16.717 --> 50:19.899 the gun falls out of his pocket, so he's gunless right now sitting 50:19.947 --> 50:23.466 between the truck and the trailer. Lucky it didn't like go off or, you know, 50:23.482 --> 50:25.748 draw attention to him or anything else, you know. I mean, it could have been 50:26.248 --> 50:29.625 Lots of things that went worse there. For sure. Um, so they end up pulling, 50:29.802 --> 50:32.990 uh, they pulling up to Red Bar's house, right? And he's got this 50:33.247 --> 50:36.275 house kind of out in the middle of nowhere, big old barn. Yeah. And, 50:36.291 --> 50:39.207 uh, it— what a weird, uh, 50:39.976 --> 50:43.806 what a cool, like, property to have, but, like, weird to have to keep that 50:43.838 --> 50:47.699 big-ass truck, you know, on hand all the time. He obviously doesn't work 50:47.747 --> 50:51.144 for a trucking company. He's like an independent contractor when he's not kidnapping and murdering. 50:51.192 --> 50:55.380 Because he brings his empty trailer with him. Which is not normal. 50:55.550 --> 50:58.960 No. I mean, it comes into play. It does. But it's like— But yeah, 50:59.460 --> 51:01.750 so— I detached a long time ago. So we meet his wife and son. 51:02.040 --> 51:05.000 Deke is his kid, which I totally thought was his daughter at first. Sorry, 51:05.500 --> 51:07.280 little boy. Just thought you kind of looked like a little girl. I don't know 51:07.780 --> 51:09.600 why a girl was named Deke. I think— I guess it must be short for 51:10.100 --> 51:13.360 Deacon. But like, so he's like, hey, go unlock the barn for Dad, you know, 51:13.860 --> 51:14.940 whatever. And like, the wife's like, I thought you were coming back like in a 51:15.440 --> 51:17.000 week or 2. And he's like, oh, you know, had to come back. I've got 51:17.500 --> 51:20.460 some things to take care of. Like Billy and Earl and whoever are coming, 51:20.960 --> 51:23.744 so like, Put on some breakfast, right? Yeah. And, uh, so he pulls the car 51:23.792 --> 51:27.405 alongside, and now— and now I was a little— I didn't quite understand where Jeff 51:27.905 --> 51:31.065 ended up here. He was on that little platform between the cab and the trailer, 51:31.081 --> 51:34.228 but then somehow climbed into something else. Like, where did he go? Yeah, 51:34.244 --> 51:37.504 he like got onto the roof of the trailer and then used that to get 51:38.004 --> 51:40.025 himself up onto the roof of this. Oh, but no, but I meant like while 51:40.525 --> 51:43.637 he was traveling, because he was hidden basically. He wasn't really visible at any point. 51:43.685 --> 51:46.078 So I don't know if there's like a way to get onto the roof of 51:46.110 --> 51:49.128 the cab underneath the, like, I don't know what it was, 51:49.225 --> 51:51.746 but he got somewhere where he wasn't spotted. Right. And then he climbed out from 51:52.246 --> 51:54.363 there, climbed up on top of the trailer. And you're right, that's how he gets 51:54.863 --> 51:58.055 onto the, onto the top of the barn, climbs through an upper window, like the 51:58.555 --> 52:02.535 upper loft window, whatever, of the barn. And this is like, he sees license plates, 52:02.631 --> 52:05.859 all these equipment boxes, obviously a lot of belongings and stuff, like electronics, 52:05.875 --> 52:08.973 tourists, cameras, and like, also it's clearly tourist stuff, 52:09.054 --> 52:12.265 right? And whatever, all these things. And this is when, you know, the other, 52:12.297 --> 52:14.770 the truck that he saw when the Jeep got winched out of the river, 52:14.850 --> 52:18.143 that truck rolls in along with like Billy's car or whatever, 52:18.287 --> 52:21.789 you know, come into the barn. Yep. And sick Firebird for Billy. 52:21.837 --> 52:25.547 Yeah, yeah. And so this is the situation here where 52:25.708 --> 52:29.450 now they're pulling a body out from underneath the truck, like a body bag. 52:29.515 --> 52:32.550 I'm like, oh man, they already killed her. And, you know, it's like in there 52:32.599 --> 52:35.699 and she's not responding. But then as they're dragging her away, she starts thrashing. 52:35.795 --> 52:40.052 Yeah, it's like, oh cool, Amy's not dead yet, you know. And they're like, 52:40.710 --> 52:44.370 they're talking, just kind of chit-chatting about previous crimes. 52:44.870 --> 52:47.630 Yeah, as he's watching them, they're just like, man, this was so much harder than 52:48.130 --> 52:51.790 those people we killed 3 weeks ago in Ohio or whatever. Yeah. 52:52.290 --> 52:55.990 Um, so a great scene though is Jeff sees them like pull this bag 52:56.490 --> 52:59.550 out and they're kind of joking with each other about, oh, guess she must have 53:00.050 --> 53:03.450 died from the fumes. Oh well. And then, uh, and then she starts kicking around 53:03.950 --> 53:07.530 and like the emotion that, uh, that Jeff has there is, is pretty great. 53:07.550 --> 53:10.450 It's pretty awesome. I do like it. It went from complete despair, like this wasn't 53:10.950 --> 53:13.530 even— like I got nothing else to do here, to oh fuck, I could still 53:14.030 --> 53:17.194 save her. Like it's really a massive of change and, and really awesome. And so 53:17.210 --> 53:20.486 they put her in, they say, we're gonna put her in the freezer. And they 53:20.646 --> 53:23.665 go into like the cellar kind of underneath the barn. Well, when they open up 53:23.713 --> 53:27.294 her, uh, the little bag she's in, she looks up and can see his 53:27.632 --> 53:31.341 eye looking through like a little hole in the slat. And she 53:31.841 --> 53:35.034 knows it's him. I mean, but he's like shaking, you know? And, uh, 53:35.371 --> 53:38.824 so she knows like something's up, right? A little bit of a nod there. 53:39.033 --> 53:42.405 Yeah. And so he tries to, uh, so, so they 53:42.421 --> 53:45.693 lock her under there. They leave and lock up the barn door. And so then 53:45.709 --> 53:49.172 he tries to get her out but can't, like, can't unlock— there's 53:49.672 --> 53:52.524 the crowbar doesn't work. Like, nothing works to get the, the cellar undone. So he 53:53.024 --> 53:55.715 goes to the house, he finds a gun. Uh, where does he find the gun? 53:55.956 --> 53:57.832 Oh, in the car. In the car. So he goes in the truck to see 53:58.332 --> 54:00.174 if he can, like, find keys to open or whatever, but he finds a gun. 54:00.719 --> 54:03.718 So he goes into the house and he's, like, walking the house real quiet, 54:03.734 --> 54:07.037 real slow-like, and there's the sounds of gunfire and stuff. Apparently the 54:07.537 --> 54:11.130 kid is playing Doom on Whatever video game system had Doom. 54:11.227 --> 54:13.957 I don't even know which console— Probably a computer at the time. It must have 54:14.457 --> 54:16.559 been a computer, but it looked like a big TV. But, but he's playing Doom, 54:17.394 --> 54:20.735 and then— Sega 32X had Doom. Oh, there you go. Maybe that was 54:20.767 --> 54:23.016 it. Stolen off of some poor tourist. 54:23.658 --> 54:28.123 Yeah. But, but yeah, then he goes in, and then in the kitchen are Red 54:28.155 --> 54:31.271 and Billy and Red's wife and the fat guy. Yep. And they're all sitting around 54:31.771 --> 54:34.644 having breakfast. And so when he walks in there with the gun, Billy's the first 54:35.144 --> 54:38.170 one to spot him. And it's like this sort of like showdown, but then the 54:38.670 --> 54:41.510 kid comes in when he, you know, whatever, and he's got a gun, shotgun or 54:42.010 --> 54:45.070 whatever. And so it's this tense moment, really great. He comes in, he's like, 54:45.570 --> 54:48.290 you know, my daddy taught me how to shoot. Like, really needed to. Yeah, 54:48.790 --> 54:51.390 he's very confident. Oh yeah, that he's doing the right thing. Well, of course, 54:51.890 --> 54:54.790 he and his mother have no idea that their father does— that Red does anything 54:55.290 --> 54:57.970 illegal. So this is just an intruder with a gun pointed at his dad. 54:58.470 --> 55:01.430 The kids are acting exactly as a kid should. And it's so funny too because 55:01.930 --> 55:04.230 he's trying to talk the kid down and Red's like, shoot him, son, do it, 55:04.730 --> 55:08.276 whatever. And then the mom goes, just shoot him! And that's when Jeff knows this 55:08.776 --> 55:11.482 kid's about to shoot me. So he pushes the barrel of the gun and it 55:11.982 --> 55:14.671 shoots the fat man in the arm or whatever. And then it's like, whatever, 55:14.751 --> 55:18.197 Billy escapes and Jeff is able to get both guns and kind of get the 55:18.697 --> 55:21.097 other— the kid, he says, kid's your mom. And then the 3 adults and the 55:21.597 --> 55:23.742 kid, and he gets them going. But Billy's run off and he knows that's gonna 55:24.242 --> 55:27.508 be a problem. Yep. Takes him to the barn, right? And he's— and he's got 55:28.008 --> 55:31.354 the gun on Red saying, fuck it, open it up, like, my wife is 55:31.854 --> 55:34.367 in the freezer, she better be alive, you know? Oh, he said something— read something— 55:34.399 --> 55:36.707 she's got like 10 minutes of air and that or something like that. So this 55:37.207 --> 55:40.442 has got to happen quick, right? And, and Red's wife is, you know, opening up 55:40.571 --> 55:43.697 and taking forever to open this thing. But I will say, 55:43.777 --> 55:47.143 to, to Jeff's credit, he's not being like, open it! Oh, right, right, right. 55:47.287 --> 55:50.750 You know, he's letting her do it. And she goes in there and she's just 55:51.250 --> 55:54.293 like struggling because she's got a gun in her face, but also like, 55:55.062 --> 55:58.637 hey husband, what the fuck? What is going on? What am I gonna find down 55:58.669 --> 56:01.859 here? This is crazy. You know, so she opens it and then she's still very 56:01.875 --> 56:05.504 confused is able to get the freezer open, but Amy is— Yep, 56:05.745 --> 56:09.358 she's alive. Thank God she's there. And she's like, get the fuck out of here. 56:09.439 --> 56:13.084 I do like that she's like, get the fuck off me. She's ready 56:13.584 --> 56:17.147 to thrash, which is great. So they lock, you know, 56:17.549 --> 56:20.905 the 4 people they have down in the basement, lock the padlock, 56:20.985 --> 56:23.908 and throw a couple of like big, you know, mechanics tool chests on top of 56:24.408 --> 56:26.622 it. So it's not gonna be— they're not gonna— you're screwed if you're inside. 56:26.927 --> 56:28.774 Yeah, and it's gonna be hard to do. But they know— but he says there's 56:28.854 --> 56:31.504 one more out there. There's one more out there. We can't just— we're not, 56:31.584 --> 56:34.490 we're not free yet, kind of thing. And his red bar is going down in 56:34.990 --> 56:38.761 there too. He's, he's like being arrogant as he's being placed into 56:39.261 --> 56:42.117 the basement. He's like, you remember, sir? And he just gets booted down. 56:42.904 --> 56:46.517 And so they decide, oh, there's a truck and a trailer 56:47.017 --> 56:50.097 not far, so maybe we can go that way and go get him. And I 56:50.467 --> 56:53.951 think this is when Billy has got a gun, but he's like looking for them, 56:53.999 --> 56:57.398 but instead goes to the barn and frees everybody out of the barn, right? 56:57.830 --> 57:00.715 So now Amy and Jeff are in this other trailer on the property looking for 57:01.215 --> 57:02.910 the keys to the truck that's there so that they can try to go. 57:02.958 --> 57:06.548 So they find them. Meanwhile, Red has gotten into his big rig and is 57:06.964 --> 57:10.281 barreling towards this trailer. Yeah. This is the coolest effect in the whole movie, 57:10.330 --> 57:14.368 I thought, which is Amy and Jeff are inside the trailer, have moved themselves 57:14.512 --> 57:18.470 luckily all the way to one side, like one end, because Red comes flying through 57:18.598 --> 57:22.142 and that— through the middle of it just explodes This thing. Yeah, with the big 57:22.190 --> 57:25.064 rig. And, and, you know, basically it's making them a brand new door for them 57:25.080 --> 57:27.504 to come out, but, you know, trying to kill them. So they get into the 57:28.004 --> 57:31.935 truck and can just barely get away. Another great chase sequence. We've got— 57:31.983 --> 57:35.451 yeah, the pickup truck they're in, and sort of, you know, and Jeff keeps 57:35.951 --> 57:38.566 saying, do you see them? Do you see them? Do you see them? And it's 57:39.066 --> 57:42.756 like nobody sees anybody, except then suddenly there's Billy in the Firebird or 57:43.256 --> 57:46.047 whatever, you know, whatever it is. Like, just like— I like how they, you know, 57:46.191 --> 57:49.672 they're in this area where I mean, it's hilly, but it's not like mountainous, 57:49.736 --> 57:52.557 right? And your visibility is crazy far. 57:53.086 --> 57:55.988 And to have these things— and it's filmed very effectively. Like, 57:56.052 --> 57:59.515 during this, you're like, whoa, yeah, like this car's right next to them all of 58:00.015 --> 58:01.583 a sudden. Sort of the thing where it's like, yeah, that works great for the 58:02.083 --> 58:05.927 movie because it's surprising the audience. Yeah, how would the people be surprised? Why would 58:06.427 --> 58:09.918 they catch anything about the car coming? But Jeff and Amy, they did 58:10.418 --> 58:13.573 end up in kind of like a shitty, like, work truck. Definitely believable as a 58:13.927 --> 58:16.738 They'd get caught. It's just that they'd see them coming. I think it's my only 58:17.238 --> 58:20.577 problem. But yeah. So, so they're being chased and then 58:20.593 --> 58:23.950 there's a couple of dispatches of the various guys, 58:24.078 --> 58:27.435 right? We've got Billy and he gets run off the road and like, 58:27.580 --> 58:31.418 you know, the flip explosion immediately. Love when cars explode 58:31.515 --> 58:35.016 just because they turned over onto their roofs. So Billy gone. And it is cool 58:35.065 --> 58:38.695 before that how the 3 cars kind of work to pin that, to pin 58:39.195 --> 58:42.390 him in. That's it. That's a nice scene there. Yeah, so Billy's gone and now 58:42.890 --> 58:46.490 we've got Fat Guy and, you know, he gets taken out. He's gone. So we're 58:46.990 --> 58:49.410 down to just Jeff and Amy in the pickup and Red still coming in the 58:49.910 --> 58:53.530 18-wheeler. Right, and I think Red— has Red ditched the trailer on the 18-wheeler 58:54.030 --> 58:56.890 by this point? I think at some point he hits the brakes and it spun 58:57.390 --> 59:00.070 around. That's how Fat Guy dies, is that the trailer spins around and Fat Guy 59:00.570 --> 59:03.730 crashes into that and it detaches from the cab. So now he's got just the— 59:04.230 --> 59:07.090 it's not 18-wheeler anymore now, it's, you know, whatever, 10 wheels or whatever it is. 59:07.150 --> 59:10.837 But yeah, so he's like, he's Still chasing him, but he doesn't have 59:11.337 --> 59:14.302 the trailer slowing him down. The most powerful chase vehicle. 59:14.510 --> 59:18.232 I love a semi without a trailer. T2, baby. This is 59:18.732 --> 59:21.874 very T2. The truck that Jeff and Amy are in is very 59:21.970 --> 59:24.890 T2. Oh yeah, it's true. Before the foundry or whatever they go to. Yeah, 59:25.178 --> 59:28.948 yeah, yeah. So they end up approaching this 59:28.964 --> 59:32.574 bridge, right? And he's trying to ram them off the bridge. 59:33.119 --> 59:36.680 And he effectively kind of does, But then the truck 59:36.984 --> 59:40.495 goes off the bridge. Yeah, so basically, like, he rams it so that Amy gets 59:40.511 --> 59:43.989 kind of stuck, and he's trying to push them off. Jeff climbs out his door, 59:44.582 --> 59:47.531 runs across the roof of the pickup, jumps into the cab with Red, and is 59:47.628 --> 59:50.833 fighting him. And that's how, you know, because then they're pushing the gas over, 59:51.090 --> 59:54.264 the big rig actually kind of crawls over the pickup truck and then 59:54.296 --> 59:57.854 gets— is about to head down, it looks like maybe 50 or 60 feet 59:57.902 --> 01:00:01.236 down to a riverbed, real far, but gets stuck on something. 01:00:01.349 --> 01:00:04.907 Some part of the bridge kind of holds up the axle 01:00:05.407 --> 01:00:06.898 And it stops. Yeah. And so now Amy's stuck in the pickup and it's, 01:00:07.139 --> 01:00:10.572 it's sort of touching the big rig, but not, not in as much danger of 01:00:11.072 --> 01:00:14.102 falling. The big rig's ready to fall. Yeah. So Jeff and Red are both sort 01:00:14.602 --> 01:00:18.161 of like hanging out. This metal bracket that's like supporting the entire weight 01:00:18.177 --> 01:00:21.370 of this truck. It's insane, right? So any second it's gonna be done. 01:00:21.642 --> 01:00:24.402 And so Red's climbing back and he's trying to get out on top. And then, 01:00:24.595 --> 01:00:27.466 you know, Jeff kind of follows him and then Red gets a chain off of 01:00:27.499 --> 01:00:30.337 the back, you know, how they connect the trailer to the cabin, he's like trying 01:00:30.837 --> 01:00:33.239 to whip at Jeff to like knock him off of it with the chain. 01:00:33.816 --> 01:00:37.472 Jeff's able to grab it like Sub-Zero style or whatever, Scorpion style. 01:00:37.825 --> 01:00:41.272 And, and, you know, there's this moment Red's eyes go, oh, because he's wrapped it 01:00:41.772 --> 01:00:44.816 around his wrist. Such a kung fu movie moment, right, where you just catch the 01:00:44.960 --> 01:00:48.792 eyes right before death. It's a little wider. Yeah, exactly. And Jeff pulls 01:00:48.872 --> 01:00:51.950 him and throws him off, and he falls, you know, 50, 60 feet to the 01:00:52.450 --> 01:00:56.280 ground below. I will say, he's laying where he's laying, it looks like he would 01:00:56.780 --> 01:00:59.566 have hit his back or or head on the rock, but there isn't like a 01:01:00.066 --> 01:01:02.836 pool of blood. No. Right? So Jeff climbs up, 01:01:03.349 --> 01:01:06.667 gets back, and gets Amy out of the pickup sort of eventually, 01:01:06.860 --> 01:01:10.194 right? And they look down and 01:01:10.370 --> 01:01:13.496 Red kind of like opens his eyes and looks up at them. Yeah. 01:01:14.057 --> 01:01:17.664 At which point Amy like hits the gear shift, 01:01:17.680 --> 01:01:21.271 I think it is, of the pickup, putting it into gear, which makes both trucks 01:01:21.771 --> 01:01:25.118 fall over the edge and just crushes Red. So I love that 01:01:25.618 --> 01:01:29.029 Amy gets the kill. Like, that is a lot of fun. Very, very well deserved. 01:01:29.142 --> 01:01:32.893 Yes. By her. And, uh, and a nice like Cyrus the Virus style death for 01:01:33.393 --> 01:01:35.650 Red Bar there. Yes, very good. Um, and, uh, 01:01:36.580 --> 01:01:40.668 and again, the way that this movie— I mean, like your comment 01:01:41.168 --> 01:01:45.029 at the beginning about it being one note, it's like once this action is 01:01:45.093 --> 01:01:48.668 done, we're fully done with the movie. We don't, we don't need any 01:01:48.700 --> 01:01:51.954 6 months later, none of that stuff. No epilogue, no nothing. And we get— and 01:01:52.146 --> 01:01:55.322 it is like still a very haunting like zoom out of them on the bridge, 01:01:55.370 --> 01:01:58.325 because they're also still in this town where he doesn't know if the next cop 01:01:58.389 --> 01:02:01.152 that pulls up is one of the associates of this guy or any of that 01:02:01.652 --> 01:02:05.022 stuff. And there's a police officer down who's gonna have something to say 01:02:05.312 --> 01:02:08.845 about Jeff, right? Right. And there's a lot of legal trouble they still have to 01:02:09.345 --> 01:02:11.784 deal with, not to mention the fact that all of their possessions that were in 01:02:11.816 --> 01:02:15.575 that Jeep Grand Cherokee are gone. Yeah, who knows where they're— Their little suitcases flew 01:02:16.075 --> 01:02:18.128 off the top. Like, who knows? And, you know, they don't have any money. 01:02:18.225 --> 01:02:21.372 The 5 grand they did have in their account is gone because that money was 01:02:21.437 --> 01:02:24.809 in the truck that got like left at the truck stop, I think. So it's 01:02:25.309 --> 01:02:26.912 like, you know, there's just a whole bunch of stuff they still have to deal 01:02:27.412 --> 01:02:29.224 with, and the movie does not worry itself about any of it. It's like, 01:02:29.240 --> 01:02:32.596 nope, that guy's dead, movie's done. Yeah, the rest of what happens to them is 01:02:32.773 --> 01:02:36.562 fucking what happens to them, who cares. So yeah, so that is, uh, that is 01:02:36.626 --> 01:02:39.982 Breakdown there. Good stuff, man. Man. All right, well, 01:02:39.998 --> 01:02:43.274 this was, this was my pick, and, uh, and I'll go ahead and review it 01:02:43.774 --> 01:02:46.742 first. Um, on a rewatch, and you know, I've seen this a whole bunch of 01:02:47.242 --> 01:02:50.579 times. Yeah, it does hold up. And it was interesting watching it thinking of 01:02:51.079 --> 01:02:54.369 like, all right, what am I gonna say? What do we have to— you 01:02:54.869 --> 01:02:57.901 know, what's interesting about this movie relative to others? And one is that we're just 01:02:57.965 --> 01:03:00.903 with the Jeff character the entire movie. Yeah. 01:03:00.952 --> 01:03:04.179 Like, we don't get any information that he doesn't have really. 01:03:04.789 --> 01:03:08.787 And I think that's very effective. The way that it's disorienting, 01:03:08.964 --> 01:03:11.613 you know, when he's in the diner and when he's in the bank and stuff 01:03:12.113 --> 01:03:15.737 like that. Really, Well done. Um, I don't think this 01:03:16.237 --> 01:03:18.578 is like a— it's not a perfect movie, 01:03:19.252 --> 01:03:22.413 but this is like in Tombstone when, 01:03:22.846 --> 01:03:25.655 uh, Curly Bill and his associates are watching the St. 01:03:25.735 --> 01:03:29.249 Crispin's Day speech. Oh yeah. And he stands up and he's like, that's our 01:03:29.281 --> 01:03:32.796 kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah. This is my kind 01:03:33.296 --> 01:03:36.663 of stuff. This is the kind of movie that I like. I was very satisfied 01:03:37.163 --> 01:03:39.696 by it. I had a great time with it. Uh, shout out again to Matt 01:03:39.776 --> 01:03:43.047 for suggesting it. And it is 01:03:43.160 --> 01:03:46.896 an under-the-radar movie, especially like it's not going to come up in the top 5 01:03:46.928 --> 01:03:50.472 Kurt Russell movies that you're thinking of. But it's for sure 01:03:50.600 --> 01:03:54.625 worth seeing. It is spooky in ways. The cast, the supporting 01:03:55.125 --> 01:03:57.800 cast is all very solid. Not a lot of cast in this movie. Not a 01:03:57.816 --> 01:04:00.959 lot to it, but very enjoyable and a lot 01:04:01.459 --> 01:04:03.846 of fun. I will say Breakdown for me is a 4 out of 5. 01:04:03.926 --> 01:04:07.197 All right, very cool. For my part, really, really enjoyed 01:04:07.697 --> 01:04:10.581 this. Thank you again for bringing another '90s thriller to my attention that I hadn't 01:04:11.081 --> 01:04:14.591 seen I love how economical this movie is in every 01:04:15.091 --> 01:04:17.222 possible way. Like you just mentioned, there's not a lot of cast. There's not a 01:04:17.722 --> 01:04:20.591 lot of characters in this movie. There's like, you know, there's like 7 people we 01:04:20.607 --> 01:04:23.559 really care about, 2 or 3 more that show up for one scene maybe, 01:04:23.575 --> 01:04:27.089 and that's about it, right? Right. And it's 93 01:04:27.589 --> 01:04:31.083 minutes long, which is shockingly quick, especially for a thriller or a suspense movie. 01:04:31.196 --> 01:04:33.762 They tend to go a little longer because there's all this setup. You think back 01:04:34.262 --> 01:04:36.971 to Sleeping with the Enemy, not only do you have to have all this relationship 01:04:37.471 --> 01:04:40.733 setup, at the beginning. But, you know, there's that whole romance side quest that happens 01:04:40.782 --> 01:04:44.348 in the middle. You know, thinking of like the River 01:04:44.364 --> 01:04:47.882 Wild, like they got to set up so much stuff between Strathairn 01:04:47.930 --> 01:04:51.625 and Streep before we can kind of understand why it matters. And then Wade 01:04:52.125 --> 01:04:55.018 can't be evil right away. Like J.T. Walsh gets to be evil almost right away, 01:04:55.503 --> 01:04:58.882 right? Like the first time we see him, he's not because he's got to win 01:04:59.382 --> 01:05:02.050 their confidence. But like almost right away he gets to be evil. Right. And so 01:05:02.550 --> 01:05:05.343 there's so much about this movie that's crazy economical. I agree It's not like a 01:05:05.843 --> 01:05:09.078 great, great movie, but it was a ton of fun. It really 01:05:09.110 --> 01:05:12.092 ratcheted the tension. It's got 2 fantastic car chase scenes. 01:05:12.717 --> 01:05:16.853 Several times during this movie, I found myself with that like open-mouthed 01:05:16.885 --> 01:05:19.290 smile that I'll get— I know I get when I'm enjoying a movie. I'm just 01:05:19.790 --> 01:05:22.752 like, you know, kind of like almost like can't breathe because I'm enjoying it so 01:05:22.816 --> 01:05:26.327 much. When, when Jeff takes over and duct tapes 01:05:26.359 --> 01:05:30.175 Earl to the seat and it's like the finally— because that's a big 01:05:30.191 --> 01:05:33.960 release of the tension. And I think that's like, you know, close to like 01:05:34.460 --> 01:05:37.800 50 minutes into the movie. It's a long time into the movie. Yeah. So yeah, 01:05:38.300 --> 01:05:41.400 I've had that look for sure. And it's almost immediately tense again because the 01:05:41.900 --> 01:05:44.200 cop shows up, right? You get maybe 2 minutes of him trying to get info 01:05:44.700 --> 01:05:46.859 out of Earl, and then there's the cop, and you're like, goddamn it, this guy 01:05:47.359 --> 01:05:49.940 can't catch a break. Yeah. Okay, all that to be said, I'm actually right where 01:05:50.440 --> 01:05:52.020 you are on this movie as well. I'm also a 4 out of 5 on 01:05:52.520 --> 01:05:56.100 the breakdown. Really, really fun movie. If you like thrillers, if you like suspense films, 01:05:56.460 --> 01:05:59.180 absolutely see it. If you like Kurt Russell, absolutely see it. Yeah, it's not gonna 01:05:59.680 --> 01:06:02.900 make It's not gonna crack the top 5 of my favorite Kurt Russell movies ever, 01:06:02.920 --> 01:06:05.480 but that's just because the dude did so many fantastic movies. Yeah, for sure. 01:06:05.980 --> 01:06:08.620 You know, but yeah, a lot of fun. J.T. Walsh is wonderful. M.C. Gainey is 01:06:09.120 --> 01:06:12.140 wonderful. M.C. Gainey, by the way, has said, been on record saying he believes Earl 01:06:12.640 --> 01:06:16.220 is the darkest character he's ever played and that he actually kind of regrets 01:06:16.720 --> 01:06:20.040 his involvement. Wow. Because he just found it was so dark and evil as a 01:06:20.540 --> 01:06:23.740 character, completely unredeemable. And when you think about where else have we seen 01:06:24.240 --> 01:06:27.916 him? The pilot in Con Air. Swamp Thing, he himself is not a particularly 01:06:27.932 --> 01:06:31.156 bad guy. He's with a bunch of bad guys, but Swamp 01:06:31.220 --> 01:06:34.765 Thing doesn't do much other than fly the plane. He even avoids the guy in 01:06:35.265 --> 01:06:38.710 the little propeller plane instead of crashing through him, right? 01:06:38.774 --> 01:06:41.325 I mean, there's— I can see what he's saying about— He lands on the Vegas 01:06:41.825 --> 01:06:44.853 Strip. Which, you know, whatever, that casino's gonna get torn down anyway. So anyway, 01:06:44.869 --> 01:06:47.981 that is funny. That's, that's great that it had that effect on the actor this, 01:06:48.157 --> 01:06:52.135 this much later. A guy who's been in a ton of shit. Exactly. And generally 01:06:52.167 --> 01:06:55.472 plays like jailbirds, kind of bad heavies. And like, whatever. But yeah, 01:06:55.488 --> 01:06:57.656 so 4 out of 5 for me. So we are an 8 out of 10 01:06:57.704 --> 01:07:00.594 on Breakdown, which is, I think, you know, it's a good score for it. 01:07:00.819 --> 01:07:04.110 And I really think, again, out there, if you have not seen this, first, 01:07:04.126 --> 01:07:06.310 why are you listening to this? You just had the whole thing spoiled for you. 01:07:06.374 --> 01:07:09.313 But really, anybody who likes thrillers should see Breakdown. 01:07:09.489 --> 01:07:13.343 Definitely. Definitely. Well, you're up next. What do we have 01:07:13.843 --> 01:07:17.180 here? Well, we're staying really in the same time frame as this movie. This movie 01:07:17.197 --> 01:07:21.676 came out in May of '97. A movie that came out in April of '97 01:07:22.176 --> 01:07:22.671 is what we're going to do next. And for me, this is one I know 01:07:23.171 --> 01:07:25.335 for sure that I saw it in the theater. I know for sure that I 01:07:25.835 --> 01:07:28.448 saw it opening weekend because I took a date to this movie. All right. 01:07:28.561 --> 01:07:31.337 Junior year of high school, the girl that I took to junior prom. I think 01:07:31.837 --> 01:07:35.045 she's now a weather— a meteorologist on TV in like Kansas or 01:07:35.545 --> 01:07:40.437 something somewhere, which is funny. Nice. But yeah, so this movie is about 01:07:40.550 --> 01:07:44.097 a hitman who goes back to a high school reunion and it stars John 01:07:44.597 --> 01:07:47.564 Cusack and Minnie Driver. Driver, Dan Aykroyd. Like, 01:07:47.580 --> 01:07:50.935 there's so many good people in this movie. Joan Cusack is also in it, 01:07:51.064 --> 01:07:54.499 and there's a great, very small role played by Jeremy Piven with a couple 01:07:54.515 --> 01:07:58.304 of iconic lines. I love this movie. It's got a fantastic '80s movie 01:07:58.400 --> 01:08:02.061 soundtrack because all the music's from the '80s. One of the '80s— but 01:08:02.318 --> 01:08:05.978 like, when, when our CD budgets were limited, this was 01:08:06.090 --> 01:08:09.301 one of the best purchases you could get that got you so many hits from 01:08:09.801 --> 01:08:14.310 different artists. And like, I still love this CD. I'll pop this 01:08:14.810 --> 01:08:16.660 Soundtrack on 100%. We're gonna watch Gross Point Blank this week. Love this movie. 01:08:17.300 --> 01:08:19.940 I can't wait, dude. I saw it. I think I saw it in the theater 01:08:20.440 --> 01:08:23.140 at the time too, and but it's been a long time, so I can't wait 01:08:23.640 --> 01:08:26.060 to revisit it, man. I probably took that girl to go see it at the 01:08:26.560 --> 01:08:28.700 theater you were working at if this was at your theater. Do you remember if 01:08:29.200 --> 01:08:32.160 it was or not? I don't know. Maybe it wasn't. Gross Point Blank was not. 01:08:32.660 --> 01:08:35.440 Okay, so maybe it was at Crocandyman. Yeah, but either way, that's what we'll watch 01:08:35.940 --> 01:08:39.590 next week. A little trip down a little yeah trip down. memory lane or whatever, 01:08:40.090 --> 01:08:42.990 and we'll watch Grosse Pointe Blank, which is a ton of fun. That's a wrap. 01:08:43.490 --> 01:08:45.830 If you like what you hear, please consider heading over to Apple or Spotify and 01:08:46.330 --> 01:08:49.110 leaving us a 5-star review. It helps new folks find the show. Be sure to 01:08:49.610 --> 01:08:52.770 check out our website at twodads1movie.com. 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