WEBVTT 00:00.774 --> 00:04.042 Whatever possessed God in heaven to make a man like Rambo? 00:04.777 --> 00:08.118 God didn't make Rambo. I made him. 00:08.987 --> 00:11.386 Who the hell are you? Sam Trautman. 00:12.449 --> 00:15.830 Colonel Samuel Trautman. Look, we're a little busy this morning, 00:15.846 --> 00:18.774 Colonel. What can I do for you? I've come to get my boy. Your boy? 00:19.731 --> 00:23.589 I recruited him, I trained him, I commanded him in Vietnam for 3 years. 00:24.902 --> 00:28.048 I'd say that makes him mine. I wonder why the Pentagon 00:28.080 --> 00:31.294 would send a full-bird colonel down here to handle this. 00:32.017 --> 00:35.216 The Army thought I might be able to help. Well, I don't know in what 00:35.716 --> 00:37.866 way. Rambo's a civilian now. He's my problem. 00:39.435 --> 00:43.007 I don't think you understand. I didn't come here to rescue Rambo 00:43.507 --> 00:45.799 from you. I came here to rescue you from him. 00:47.592 --> 00:51.097 Well, we all appreciate your concern, Colonel. I will try 00:51.597 --> 00:55.073 to be extra careful. I'm just amazed that he allowed any of your posse 00:55.089 --> 00:56.989 to live. Is that right? 00:57.939 --> 01:00.949 Strictly speaking, he slipped up. You're lucky to be breathing. 01:01.720 --> 01:04.899 That's just great. Colonel, you came out 01:05.399 --> 01:08.771 here to find out why one of your machines blew a gasket. You don't 01:09.271 --> 01:11.784 seem to want to accept the fact that you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla 01:12.284 --> 01:15.498 warfare, with a man who's the best with 01:15.563 --> 01:19.208 guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained 01:19.708 --> 01:22.062 to ignore pain, ignore weather, 01:23.168 --> 01:26.919 to live off the land, to eat things that'll make a billy goat puke. 01:28.057 --> 01:30.798 In Vietnam, his job was to dispose of enemy personnel, 01:31.247 --> 01:35.046 to kill, period. Win by attrition. 01:36.200 --> 01:37.659 Well, Rambo was the best. 01:38.364 --> 01:41.715 It's 2 Dads 1 Movie. 01:41.763 --> 01:45.273 It's the podcast where 2 middle-aged dads sit around and shoot 01:45.773 --> 01:49.041 the shit about the movies of the '80s and '90s. Here are your hosts, 01:49.105 --> 01:51.047 Steve Paulo Paulo and Nic Briana. 01:52.395 --> 01:55.558 Hello, everybody. Welcome to another episode of 2 Dads, 1 Movie. 01:55.622 --> 01:59.492 I'm Steve. And I'm Nic. And today we are diving into 1982 01:59.652 --> 02:03.297 into rural Washington, and we're going to travel along 02:03.410 --> 02:07.150 with vagrant Vietnam vet— that's a lot of Vs. That's good alliteration. 02:07.327 --> 02:10.169 I like that one. John Rambo in First Blood. 02:10.635 --> 02:13.059 And Nic, you brought First Blood to the table for us. Tell us a little 02:13.559 --> 02:17.651 bit about why we watched it this week. Yeah, so I became familiar 02:17.699 --> 02:21.151 with the Rambo franchise initially through, I think, Part 2. 02:21.280 --> 02:24.614 OK. That's the one I feel like more of the imagery and like 02:24.662 --> 02:28.092 the things that people remember about Rambo come from. Yeah. Because that was 02:28.188 --> 02:31.298 like, you know, the sequel after this thing that kind of came, 02:31.634 --> 02:34.824 you know, was unexpectedly a way bigger hit than projected. 02:35.818 --> 02:38.703 And I ended up going back and watching this years later. I'm sure I saw 02:39.203 --> 02:42.871 this in college. I got the Rambo trilogy on DVD. Now there's like 9 Rambo 02:43.371 --> 02:46.766 movies. Who would have thought when Stallone turned 58, they'd stop making them? But no, 02:46.782 --> 02:50.263 there's like a ton more since then. Um, and I just like 02:50.472 --> 02:54.422 the, like, the indestructible Superman-type character. 02:54.759 --> 02:58.420 Sign me up every damn time. Uh, I love the Rambo shit. 02:58.501 --> 03:02.290 Stallone cracks me up. He is not a clever one-liner 03:02.790 --> 03:06.465 guy like Schwarzenegger. Right, yeah, good point. He is an unintentional comedy guy, 03:06.609 --> 03:10.447 which I really enjoy. Like, he's not trying to be funny, but I am rolling, 03:10.479 --> 03:14.365 laughing my ass off when I'm watching him. Um, so yeah, it's some fun Stallone. 03:14.493 --> 03:17.769 And I do like the way they set up Rambo's story, 'cause if you just 03:18.269 --> 03:21.541 start in Rambo II, you're just kinda like, oh, this is like— there's no way 03:21.557 --> 03:24.767 that this is a real guy. Like, it's too illogical. 03:25.152 --> 03:28.859 And look, this movie is plenty fucking illogical, but it does a nice 03:29.359 --> 03:32.037 job of kind of bringing you from this Triple V, you know, 03:32.454 --> 03:35.985 a, uh, a Vietnam vet who's 03:36.485 --> 03:39.531 just, you know, trying to find some friends, and you see how that can escalate 03:40.031 --> 03:43.030 so quickly if you don't do exactly what the cops say. Yep. This is also 03:43.046 --> 03:46.577 a clear ACAB, uh, movie as well. Um, for For my 03:47.077 --> 03:51.491 part, I realized in watching this, I have actually never watched front 03:51.991 --> 03:55.425 to back any of the Rambo movies. All right. Somehow they all passed me. 03:55.747 --> 03:59.858 You know, I'm well familiar conceptually with what each one of them represented. 03:59.906 --> 04:02.524 That First Blood was, yeah, it was in America. It was like, you know, 04:02.636 --> 04:06.474 the things I knew about it were like in America, not as bombastic, much quieter, 04:06.490 --> 04:10.682 smaller movie in a lot of ways. Rambo: First Blood Part II, in Vietnam, 04:11.003 --> 04:13.155 going back to rescue POWs. Like, that's kind of all I knew. And then a— 04:13.171 --> 04:15.917 but then a bigger spectacle, right? Like missile launchers and like bigger stuff. 04:16.219 --> 04:19.819 Also huge box office. That movie made $300 or $400 million. 04:19.869 --> 04:24.009 Yeah. Really, really enormous. Gigantic. And then Rambo III was like Afghanistan. 04:24.529 --> 04:27.689 I think that's where there's like, he, I remember something 04:28.189 --> 04:30.209 about him like pulling an arrow out of his arm or something. I think that 04:30.709 --> 04:33.289 might've been, or there were arrows involved in Rambo III. He, something like that. 04:33.789 --> 04:36.809 But he gets kitted out with this bow and arrow where there's like different tips 04:37.309 --> 04:41.089 that he can screw onto the arrows. And there's just endless possibilities for delight in 04:41.589 --> 04:44.049 this. Unfortunately, in this one, he's kind of stuck with whatever he has and whatever 04:44.549 --> 04:47.956 he finds. Right, it's a much more grounded, reality-oriented thing. Um, 04:47.972 --> 04:51.181 but yeah, so I was like excited to watch it because like, I just in 04:51.681 --> 04:53.973 my mind, uh, of the Rambo movies, I thought, well, this is going to be 04:54.473 --> 04:57.374 like, you know, this is considered maybe like the best movie. Yeah. In a lot 04:57.874 --> 04:59.492 of sense, you know, the, the film has a story to tell and all this 04:59.508 --> 05:02.011 stuff. So I was super excited to get into it. But, you know, that's a 05:02.511 --> 05:06.070 big blind spot in my, uh, sort of '80s and '90s movie understanding 05:06.118 --> 05:09.022 is, is not really, you know, really only knowing the Rambo movies by reputation. 05:09.326 --> 05:13.048 Yeah. More than anything else. So yeah, very excited to, to jump into this 05:13.546 --> 05:16.690 with you, Nic. And let's get started on the facts on First 05:17.190 --> 05:19.720 Blood. Uh, the film First Blood was released on October 22nd, 05:19.736 --> 05:22.910 1982 with an R rating and a running time of 93 minutes. 05:23.343 --> 05:26.501 Directed by Ted Kotcheff, it was written by quite a few people. 05:26.854 --> 05:30.380 Uh, Michael Cazale and William Sackheim, and separately Sylvester 05:30.880 --> 05:33.651 Stallone, all got credits on the screenplay. Uh, and it was based on the novel 05:33.683 --> 05:37.209 by David Morrell. It stars Sylvester Stallone, Brian Dennehy, and Richard 05:37.709 --> 05:41.393 Crenna. Scores: 86% on Rotten Tomatoes, very high, and IMDb 05:41.893 --> 05:45.513 7.7, also really high. Yeah. Uh, we get a thumbs 05:45.545 --> 05:49.152 down from the dickhead Gene Siskel and a thumbs up from The 05:49.652 --> 05:52.358 brother, Roger Ebert. Love you, Rog. I'm always up for Ebs. 05:53.160 --> 05:56.575 No major awards or nominations to refer to. There was, I don't know, the Jupiter 05:56.591 --> 06:00.070 Awards, which I think is like maybe a European thing, gave some recognition 06:00.570 --> 06:03.661 to this film in the categories under international film or foreign film. Nice. So that 06:04.161 --> 06:07.653 was interesting, but you know, nothing major. On a $15 million budget, which like, 06:08.070 --> 06:11.052 I know it's '82, so $15 million better go a long way, but there's like 06:11.501 --> 06:15.284 a lot of really great practical effects in this movie. You know, 06:15.429 --> 06:18.266 really wonderful stuff with some of the weaponry and different things they did. I really 06:18.766 --> 06:22.376 enjoyed it. Lots of good explosions. It pulled in $125.2 06:22.408 --> 06:25.394 million at the box office, over 8 times what it cost. 06:25.475 --> 06:28.670 It is a certified, bona fide blockbuster. Nice. 06:29.087 --> 06:32.491 So yeah, those are the facts on First Blood. And Nic, why don't you 06:32.860 --> 06:36.232 kick us off, man? How does this movie start? Yeah, so we start off 06:36.732 --> 06:40.342 and we've got some real beautiful kind of establishing shots— Gorgeous. 06:41.113 --> 06:45.175 —of the Pacific Northwest and a very sad instrumental 06:45.223 --> 06:48.626 of what ends up being the theme song to them. to the film, uh, 06:48.898 --> 06:52.090 and throughout the Rambo movies. It's kind of like the Rambo song, 06:52.747 --> 06:55.088 although at the end of this one they do play the song with lyrics, 06:55.169 --> 06:57.558 and I don't know why it makes me laugh so hard when it's with the 06:58.058 --> 07:01.246 lyrics. I just— it's so funny to me. Um, but we've got John Rambo, 07:01.407 --> 07:04.918 and he's looking like a little disheveled. Yeah. He's got his army jacket 07:04.934 --> 07:08.655 on and stuff. He's clearly like a drifter. He's got, you know, his pack 07:09.155 --> 07:12.856 and everything, longer hair, a little unshaven, and he's walking up to 07:12.888 --> 07:16.430 this house which is like supposed to be just like a rundown, 07:16.446 --> 07:20.429 like very kind of poor place in the most beautiful location ever. Beautiful lakefront 07:20.929 --> 07:23.460 property, right? Like this is a big sandpit for the kids to play in. 07:23.508 --> 07:27.172 Like, and even before it shows the water, just the scene where Rambo's 07:27.672 --> 07:31.013 walking down the road, it's like staged for a Bob Ross painting, 07:31.045 --> 07:34.820 basically. Happy little trees. And, um, so, so what he's trying 07:35.320 --> 07:37.922 to do is he's looking for this old war buddy of his named Delmar Barry. 07:38.500 --> 07:41.987 And, uh, and he's talking to this woman there who's hanging laundry on a line 07:42.051 --> 07:46.262 and seems disinterested in talking to anybody who's 07:46.762 --> 07:47.793 from the Army, from the government. So he really has to explain to her. 07:47.841 --> 07:50.727 He's like, no, like, me and Delmar were friends. Hey, here's a pic. 07:51.063 --> 07:54.798 Good. Again, Stallone is very endearing when 07:54.895 --> 07:58.277 he's just being like such a simpleton, you know? Like the way he can 07:58.341 --> 08:01.178 be in Rocky a little bit. And probably just a lot of it has to 08:01.678 --> 08:04.801 do with the real way that he talks and everything. The showing the picture here 08:04.929 --> 08:08.312 to, as we later find out, Delmar Barry's widow. Delmar has died. 08:08.440 --> 08:12.031 But the picture and the stuff, for some reason, made me think of 08:12.047 --> 08:15.718 him talking to the character's son in Over the Top and talking 08:15.734 --> 08:18.780 about your mom. Your mom and me, like, whatever. And it's this very, like, 08:19.280 --> 08:22.620 sentimental kind of thing. He overexplains. It's like the way that he talks, like, 08:23.120 --> 08:26.440 it's inefficient, but it's so realistic. He's like, oh, here's a picture 08:26.940 --> 08:29.980 of us. And, you know, Delmar had to stand in the back. He's so 08:30.480 --> 08:33.850 big. He's like, I just like— I like that. 08:34.020 --> 08:37.740 That bit of acting from Stallone, I think, is kind of uniquely Stallone. And it 08:38.240 --> 08:41.700 does— it, like, it adds a lot to this character. He's basically the best actor 08:42.200 --> 08:45.780 to play a character with a 70 IQ. Like, that's really just like— 08:46.280 --> 08:49.601 100%. So yeah, so he finds out, 08:49.682 --> 08:53.133 you know, no, Delmar died a couple years ago. He died of cancer. I think 08:53.633 --> 08:56.007 it's that stuff they were spraying, you know, Agent Orange and all these things that— 08:56.280 --> 09:00.180 so in 1982, I mean, we're like, what, 6, 7 years removed 09:00.197 --> 09:03.600 from the end of the Vietnam War? Yeah, that quote, end of the Vietnam War. 09:03.969 --> 09:07.115 Um, and, uh, and, you know, this stuff is coming out that 09:07.615 --> 09:11.193 there's these long-term effects of things that the soldiers were exposed to there that 09:11.693 --> 09:14.725 are just decimating their lives and everything. So, and it seems 09:15.225 --> 09:18.738 like from the way that Rambo reacts to this news that like This is the 09:18.835 --> 09:22.399 3rd or 4th guy he's heard something like that about. Yeah, because he's going through, 09:22.448 --> 09:25.788 like, with his picture, you assume that he's just been kind of looking for his 09:25.884 --> 09:28.951 old friends. Well, and here's the thing, you know that because he leaves the picture 09:29.451 --> 09:31.601 with her. Yeah, he leaves the picture with her. And I think there's like— almost 09:32.101 --> 09:34.716 like that's the last guy that was alive. And there's also— he had a little 09:34.796 --> 09:38.056 book with him where Delmar wrote, uh, the address down that he was looking for, 09:38.185 --> 09:40.786 everything. And that little book he like throws into like a garbage pile, 09:41.300 --> 09:43.757 uh, as he walks over a fire pit or something. Like, so he's, he's done. 09:43.805 --> 09:46.940 I mean, that's it. He's got nothing else to like Look for. Yeah, right. 09:47.440 --> 09:48.940 I mean, this is like clearly like because when I first was watching, I was 09:49.440 --> 09:51.460 like, why would he leave the photo? Doesn't he want the picture to find the 09:51.960 --> 09:55.100 other guy? Oh yeah. Oh, there's nowhere else. No one else to find. Like he's 09:55.600 --> 09:59.520 that's it. Very sad. Yeah, no. So he's so he's going into just 10:00.020 --> 10:02.800 triple V mode and kind of like walks off out of there, right? Yep. 10:03.300 --> 10:06.060 Now we get kind of a shot of the town. We have this beautiful kind 10:06.560 --> 10:09.100 of like small town. Yeah. One of those nice looking places. 10:09.470 --> 10:12.550 And there's a sign that says Gateway to Holidayland. 10:12.700 --> 10:15.600 Welcome to Hope, right? So oh, what a welcoming, wonderful place. Fuck is Holidayland? 10:16.100 --> 10:18.820 And I don't know. That's supposed to be— I don't know why you would say 10:19.320 --> 10:22.800 that. Yeah. Um, and, uh, and Brian Dennehy is 10:23.300 --> 10:27.560 playing— he's Sheriff Will Teasle. Yeah. Uh, and he's, oh, saying hi to everyone. 10:28.060 --> 10:30.620 Oh, let me help you put those groceries in the car. Hey, you better stay 10:31.120 --> 10:33.819 out of trouble. And just, hey, I'm just being a small town sheriff. Oh yeah, 10:34.319 --> 10:37.600 I got eyes on everything, and things stay right in this town because I'm around. 10:38.100 --> 10:41.900 And, uh, so yeah, he's very nice and very gregarious towards everybody 10:42.400 --> 10:44.940 in town, and I'm sure he'll stay that way forever. Oh, totally sweet guy. 10:45.440 --> 10:49.574 No problems with him whatsoever until half, half a nanosecond later, he spots Our 10:49.686 --> 10:53.405 hero John Rambo just walking down the street, walking while a vet apparently. 10:53.549 --> 10:56.996 Yep. Um, and, uh, kind of rolls up on him and goes like, hey, 10:57.060 --> 11:00.346 uh, you're visiting somebody? And he goes, no, I'm just, just passing through. 11:00.586 --> 11:03.648 Oh well, um, let me give you a ride. Let me help you pass through. 11:03.824 --> 11:07.126 And so he basically even tells him, you know, you're asking for trouble wearing 11:07.238 --> 11:10.460 that flag on your shirt, which is like, look, I get that we're 11:10.960 --> 11:14.291 pushing the whole America hates the Vietnam vets thing, which, you know, 11:14.612 --> 11:17.756 we were talking before the pod, maybe, maybe that was A little more propaganda than 11:18.256 --> 11:21.402 reality as far as— Yeah, I mean, I think that's probably been borne out, 11:21.531 --> 11:24.663 is like the— a lot of the stories about the spitting and stuff, not that 11:25.163 --> 11:28.839 that didn't happen at all, but that wasn't the prevalent experience 11:29.339 --> 11:32.935 of people returning from the war. Although, you know, someone who has kind of the 11:33.435 --> 11:36.822 look of a vagrant or a homeless person who has the flag on, that's something 11:36.870 --> 11:40.082 that, uh, and to this day, this is something Americans do not want to 11:40.582 --> 11:43.054 reconcile with. They don't want to reconcile with the fact that This guy in a 11:43.554 --> 11:46.907 wheelchair lives on a bus bench because of something that, that he was 11:47.407 --> 11:50.938 sent to do on behalf of our country. Like, so instead of reconciling with that, 11:50.986 --> 11:54.053 it's better to just vilify that person. I just thought it was interesting that he 11:54.553 --> 11:57.714 specifically— the sheriff specifically calls out wearing that flag on your shirt when he has 11:58.212 --> 12:00.926 the same flag on the shoulder of his jacket. Yeah, I thought that was just 12:01.426 --> 12:04.571 an interesting take. But basically— But it's not like you're— 12:04.651 --> 12:07.686 we don't like you because you're pro-American. It's like you put the American flag on 12:08.186 --> 12:10.672 that piece of shit. Yeah, I guess that's true. Yeah. So but it is something 12:11.172 --> 12:13.746 that took me a little, not having seen this before, and so therefore And obviously 12:13.794 --> 12:17.417 not really being alive or cognitively cognizant when 12:17.449 --> 12:19.399 this stuff was going on. Yeah, you know, if it was happening in the early 12:19.480 --> 12:22.922 '80s, we were babies. So, um, it's always so weird to me because, 12:22.938 --> 12:27.672 you know, especially post-9/11, uh, even as people will 12:27.784 --> 12:31.454 disagree on the purpose of, of American military involvement around the world 12:31.486 --> 12:34.639 or protest the involvement of the American military around the world, there's still a pretty 12:34.703 --> 12:40.107 good understanding that like the troops, even though today it's an all-volunteer 12:40.607 --> 12:42.685 military, where people are not being drafted and conscripted into the military, there's still a 12:43.185 --> 12:47.019 pretty good understanding of like, we don't hold the like individual soldiers like 12:47.519 --> 12:51.001 responsible for the choices of the leadership, right? And the decisions of the leaders to 12:51.097 --> 12:53.938 go somewhere and do something. You know, it's like, look, what, you know, should they 12:54.438 --> 12:56.555 have done that job or a different job? I don't know. That's a whole fucking 12:56.652 --> 12:59.670 moral argument you could make. But the fact is they were there doing a job. 12:59.718 --> 13:03.426 And like, it feels like the general tenor, uh, in the country is not 13:03.555 --> 13:07.071 to like blame the troops. No. For this shit. Whereas it feels like, at least 13:07.151 --> 13:10.232 in media back then, those returning from Vietnam, like you were saying, like there was 13:10.732 --> 13:14.211 at least a, um, you know, a narrative around people just, 13:14.227 --> 13:17.757 you know, really hating the returning troops, right? Well, I think there's also 13:18.257 --> 13:21.528 a goal of, of taking any kind of anti-war sentiment, 13:21.672 --> 13:25.186 yeah, and twisting that into being anti-troop, because that's an 13:25.282 --> 13:28.651 easy— talk about people who don't like identity politics, supposedly. I mean, 13:28.668 --> 13:32.085 that's one of the greatest examples of identity politics in the history of this country, 13:32.502 --> 13:36.225 is we're able to turn legitimate concerns like, hey, maybe we shouldn't bomb people, 13:36.273 --> 13:39.451 maybe we shouldn't fucking kill a million people for whatever reason 13:39.965 --> 13:43.305 into, oh, that's 'cause you hate this troop. That's 'cause this guy who lost a 13:43.353 --> 13:46.789 leg for you, for you to be able to say that. And you know what? 13:46.869 --> 13:49.615 You shouldn't be able to. Wait a minute. Fuck. Shit. 13:50.659 --> 13:53.870 So yeah, it sucks. Good old moral catch-22. For the most part, like, 13:54.191 --> 13:56.905 the people who are in the position to actually serve in the Army, especially the 13:56.921 --> 14:00.212 ones who are seeing combat, are like the kind 14:00.712 --> 14:03.990 of poorest and most marginalized people in our country. whether or not they're drafted 14:04.490 --> 14:06.730 into it or not. So that's not where the ire is directed at, but it 14:07.230 --> 14:10.150 does— this movie really tries to make it seem like that's what people are mad 14:10.650 --> 14:13.850 at. And certainly that's what Sheriff Teasle is sort of leaning on. But he 14:14.350 --> 14:17.170 offers John Rambo a ride out of town. He says, you know, he's like, 14:17.670 --> 14:18.990 you got some place for me to eat around here? And he goes, yeah, 14:19.490 --> 14:22.450 there's a diner 30 miles up the road. It's like, for one thing, he's not 14:22.950 --> 14:25.550 driving him 30 miles. He's not offering that. He's just offering to drive him like 14:26.050 --> 14:29.510 across this little bridge. He drives him. Yeah. So he does 14:30.010 --> 14:32.850 like— there's a great episode of The Wonder Years where the older brother Wayne, 14:33.350 --> 14:36.550 who's kind of like the dickish older brother gets his license 14:37.050 --> 14:39.910 and he's tasked with like driving the kids places. And he's supposed to take them 14:40.410 --> 14:42.570 to the mall and he drives them like to the very far edge of the 14:43.070 --> 14:46.870 parking lot. And he's like, well, this is technically the mall. And Will Teasle definitely 14:47.370 --> 14:50.230 technically gives him a ride out of town because he drops him like right at 14:50.730 --> 14:52.670 the edge. And he's like— There's a little sign that says they're going the other 14:53.170 --> 14:56.290 direction. Welcome to Hope. Or they're now entering Hope. Like, and being friendly. 14:56.790 --> 15:00.130 But the whole time, I mean, he's being so menacing without directly threatening him. 15:00.630 --> 15:02.750 He's like, well, you know, the law around here is me. Things are quiet and 15:03.250 --> 15:06.052 they're quiet. And that's how I like them here and everything. Uh, if I can 15:06.068 --> 15:09.514 give you some advice, get a haircut and take a bath. I hope this ride 15:10.014 --> 15:13.362 helped. And he drives away like a piece of crap, right? So Rambo— and 15:13.442 --> 15:16.471 Rambo is so like also somebody who has, 15:17.305 --> 15:20.735 I like, issues with like social issues for 15:20.751 --> 15:24.086 sure. Like he's just, he's given like one-word answers and 15:24.358 --> 15:27.212 everything. But Rambo gets out of the car and just starts walking back into town. 15:27.484 --> 15:29.728 He wants, he wants a meal. Like, I mean, that's literally his thought is like, 15:29.744 --> 15:33.576 I'm not walking 30 more miles. And I'm coming to offer commerce 15:34.076 --> 15:36.461 to this town. Yeah, yeah. And do the thing the restaurant is set up for, 15:36.605 --> 15:40.730 right? Yep. So, so Teasel can't deal with that because 15:41.230 --> 15:45.190 the number one crime in America is disrespecting a police officer, 15:45.690 --> 15:49.250 right? And he commits that crime and, uh, he basically is put 15:49.750 --> 15:52.690 under arrest for like— Well, he gets put under arrest for resisting arrest. 15:53.190 --> 15:57.010 Resisting arrest, which is my fucking favorite. Oh my God. He says something like 15:57.510 --> 16:00.110 vagrancy, right? Which I guess, okay, there's, there's laws against it. Fine. So he gets 16:00.610 --> 16:03.790 arrested for vagrancy, resisting arrest, and there was something else he said I remember now, 16:04.290 --> 16:06.750 but they were all kind of just obviously bullshit type, you know, charges. Um, 16:07.250 --> 16:10.802 but you know, He gets arrested, gets taken in, and there's 16:11.302 --> 16:14.850 like all these points here where Rambo is interacting with either Teasle 16:15.350 --> 16:17.404 or with the other cops at the sheriff's station, whatever it is, where he's getting 16:17.420 --> 16:21.050 flashbacks. He's getting these PTSD-oriented flashbacks from Vietnam where clearly 16:21.550 --> 16:23.669 he was a prisoner of war for a while. He was tortured. He was, 16:23.765 --> 16:26.898 you know, attacked with knives and like whipped and like all kinds of crazy shit. 16:27.155 --> 16:30.913 And we keep getting these like flashes and they're very, um, jarring. Yeah. 16:31.090 --> 16:34.303 You know, as well they're supposed to be. Um, but he's really like— 16:34.803 --> 16:36.980 Rambo's not making it easy for them. He doesn't want to get fingerprinted. So they 16:37.480 --> 16:40.220 try to fingerprint him and he's just like keeping his hand off of there and 16:40.720 --> 16:44.190 stuff. And he's standing on his business that like, I didn't do anything wrong. 16:44.380 --> 16:47.180 I don't need to cooperate. I'm not hurting anyone. I'm just not going to do 16:47.680 --> 16:50.940 what you're telling me to do. Exactly. Uh, he has— they pull out the classic 16:51.440 --> 16:54.560 Rambo knife off his, uh, out from his pants and stuff. And he's like, 16:55.060 --> 16:58.010 what's this knife for? He's like, hunting. He's like, what are you hunting out there? 16:58.160 --> 17:01.480 Name it. I love that. Just short answers. Yeah. 17:01.980 --> 17:05.700 So when they're fingerprinting him, it's funny. The cop is so hilarious 17:06.200 --> 17:09.100 the way he's getting so free. He's like, put your hand down, roll it across 17:09.600 --> 17:13.080 the paper, roll it across. And he's trying to like move his hand that's covered 17:13.580 --> 17:16.100 in ink. And I think this was a time where Stallone was like, hey, 17:16.600 --> 17:19.260 I'm pretty good at like using one arm to be really strong. I should make 17:19.760 --> 17:23.280 a movie about that someday. Someday. And I think that was David 17:23.780 --> 17:27.060 Caruso, right? Who's the cop doing that? Yeah, whatever. 17:27.560 --> 17:31.400 Yeah. So yeah, all these cops, like every cop that sees him come 17:31.900 --> 17:33.220 in, they're doing the like, oh, get a load of this guy. Oh, look what 17:33.720 --> 17:36.360 you pulled off the street. street kind of thing, right? 17:36.640 --> 17:40.240 Uh, and they tell him that his crime could 17:40.740 --> 17:43.840 be subject to— because he's not cooperating or whatever— 90 days in 17:44.340 --> 17:47.160 jail and a $250 fine, which it looks like he can't pay. I mean, 17:47.660 --> 17:50.600 which would probably mean then more jail time. Yeah, probably, right? Yeah. Or you just 17:51.100 --> 17:53.300 wouldn't get let out until you can pay the fine or something. Yeah, it's ridiculous. 17:53.800 --> 17:56.820 But yeah, but they take a fire hose to him to clean him off. 17:57.320 --> 18:00.920 Yeah, they threaten to shave him dry with like a straight razor, which is like— 18:01.420 --> 18:04.080 that really sets off his PTSD because, you know, we see that he's been— he 18:04.580 --> 18:07.480 was attacked by like a Vietnamese soldier or whatever, you know, with knife, and like 18:07.980 --> 18:10.140 they're coming at him with this straight razor and all this stuff. And that's when 18:10.640 --> 18:13.860 he fully loses it and he starts kicking, punching, throwing guys into— you know, 18:14.360 --> 18:16.780 he's like doing the headbutt, the guy holding behind him, he's doing the full thing, 18:17.560 --> 18:20.860 fucking up every cop in this place. Oh my God, 18:21.360 --> 18:24.960 they're, um, the cops, with the exception of 18:25.460 --> 18:28.860 the David Caruso character. Yeah, yeah, who's like the younger guy in the force 18:29.360 --> 18:32.580 who's saying like, hey, like, watch out, 18:33.080 --> 18:35.220 like, can't you see this guy is crazy? Like, you gotta watch out for this. 18:35.720 --> 18:37.040 Not really being too sympathetic, but at least like, do we need to use a 18:37.540 --> 18:41.188 fire hose? Safety Let's not do this. Yeah, and while they're fire hosing 18:41.220 --> 18:44.538 him, all the other cops are watching with such pleasure. Like, ah ha ha! 18:45.002 --> 18:48.625 The main cop who's kind of antagonizing him outside identity Dennehy 18:48.705 --> 18:51.478 is this guy named Galt. Yeah, that's right. Who has like a real good like 18:51.978 --> 18:55.485 Sam Elliott style deep voice, right? Yeah. So Rambo 18:56.222 --> 18:59.444 takes these motherfuckers out. So he takes out like four guys. Four five. 18:59.508 --> 19:02.874 Yeah. Bottom part. There's guys who get it who don't 19:03.374 --> 19:06.480 even like have it coming. He runs into the lobby, and for some reason there's 19:06.980 --> 19:09.687 a guy with a box. And he just like sweep kicks that guy to the 19:09.751 --> 19:12.798 ground. There's guys just like— he's going out of his way to make sure to 19:12.814 --> 19:16.373 elbow people and stuff. But he ends up getting out of the police 19:16.422 --> 19:19.565 station, out of the front door. He— and he got his knife back. 19:19.613 --> 19:22.098 Yes, that's the one thing he's able to claim. He doesn't have his jacket or 19:22.598 --> 19:25.225 his pack, but he gets his knife. Yeah, so he has like a tank top 19:25.241 --> 19:28.416 and pants on right now. He doesn't have much going on. And he gets 19:28.512 --> 19:31.399 out there and he's like, oh shit, well now I have committed a crime, 19:31.431 --> 19:35.632 right? Yeah, I need some wheels for that. And of course does 19:35.664 --> 19:38.855 a great fake-out move on a guy who's driving a dirt bike down the street. 19:39.032 --> 19:41.582 He steps in front of him and gives the kind of like, ho ho ho, 19:41.678 --> 19:45.607 Deke, like side-to-side move, and now he's in possession of the dirt bike, the official 19:46.107 --> 19:48.510 vehicle of crime. Love it, love it. We're gonna put that on the website. 19:48.638 --> 19:51.701 Yep. So, um, so he is driving off and they run 19:52.201 --> 19:54.315 out, the cops run out, and Galt has got a sniper rifle kind of thing 19:54.668 --> 19:57.073 and he aims it. And then he's like, damn it, Galt, you know, like, 19:57.137 --> 19:59.687 don't shoot because there's people. So at least then he's got some sense to him. 19:59.815 --> 20:03.570 Yeah. Galt though Just wants to kill him. Yeah, he's just like seeing blood 20:04.070 --> 20:06.740 for sure. So then he jumps into his cruiser and starts chasing off after, 20:06.790 --> 20:10.490 uh, after Rambo. And this is one of the best early scenes of action here. 20:10.990 --> 20:14.130 It's a great chase scene. They start in town, they're racing through town, 20:14.630 --> 20:17.190 you know, and then they're going through the mountain roads. And obviously a dirt bike 20:17.690 --> 20:19.990 is just going to be much more kind of capable on like dirt roads and 20:20.490 --> 20:23.670 stuff because you see the cruiser is just fishtailing left and right and every turn 20:24.170 --> 20:27.790 is a struggle. It is like the most indestructible cop car for a while. 20:28.290 --> 20:30.690 You think like these things that it goes through, you're like, how is it not 20:31.190 --> 20:34.409 destroyed immediately, right? So, but eventually they get up another kind of like, 20:34.810 --> 20:37.614 like high road, like a really steep dirt muddy road, 20:37.934 --> 20:41.860 and the, the cruiser like flips over. It actually flips onto its roof, 20:41.876 --> 20:45.610 and, and Denny, he has to climb out unscathed, it seems. Yeah. Completely unscathed. 20:46.027 --> 20:49.151 Um, but even Rambo loses the bike trying to go up a hill, and it's 20:49.651 --> 20:51.667 just too steep, and it, you know, it stops and he falls off. It's now 20:51.956 --> 20:55.000 he's on foot. Denny, he's on foot calling back for like backup and stuff. 20:55.561 --> 20:58.045 And it's just now we're in the woods, and it's like, you know, he's got 20:58.545 --> 21:02.150 to sort of hide slash try to provide, you know, 21:02.650 --> 21:05.570 get himself some provisions or something that he can like work with. Yeah, 21:06.070 --> 21:08.950 because he's in full— I mean, he's in like, like escape mode, 21:09.450 --> 21:13.110 survival mode. He's got to improv a lot of stuff. Um, it shows how cold 21:13.610 --> 21:15.750 he is. He's shivering a lot. I mean, it's, you know, this is, this is, 21:16.250 --> 21:18.670 uh, I feel like it's December. Like we'll mention later, there are a few points 21:19.170 --> 21:21.450 in the cop station where you see some like Christmas decorations and things. So we 21:21.950 --> 21:26.310 could have made this a Christmas movie. Um, another Sylvester Stallone Christmas. 21:26.550 --> 21:31.170 Exactly, that'd be perfect. Um, but, but, you know, it's very cold, rural Washington Washington, 21:31.670 --> 21:35.050 you know, that's gonna be freezing. And so he's looking around and he finds this, 21:35.170 --> 21:38.270 like, looks like old construction equipment or something, maybe an old, like, rail station, 21:38.770 --> 21:41.210 or, or I think it's near a mine. Yeah, yeah, something like that. But there's 21:41.710 --> 21:43.810 stuff around, so he's able to, like, find a tarp to turn into, like, 21:44.310 --> 21:47.010 a poncho. And he kind of starts getting himself stuff while the cops start building 21:47.510 --> 21:50.550 up their presence a little lower down the mountain. Then he's called in all of 21:51.050 --> 21:53.870 his buddies and they're getting ready to do a manhunt, right? And they've got, 21:54.370 --> 21:58.130 and they've got dogs, uh, they've got Dobermans, the official attack dog 21:58.630 --> 22:00.530 of the '80s. That's right. Uh, and we've got a helicopter as well. So the 22:01.030 --> 22:05.270 cops and resources, there's probably like 4 or 5 cops on 22:05.770 --> 22:09.690 foot with the dog guy and the dog. And then the helicopter is also like— 22:10.190 --> 22:12.830 And it's not like a police helicopter because like, so Denny, he calls down, 22:13.330 --> 22:15.470 he got to get so-and-so with the dogs. And he says, it's going to rain, 22:15.970 --> 22:18.310 make them bring the Dobermans because they can hunt by sight. Basically, they don't have 22:18.810 --> 22:21.090 to have the— they're like a bloodhound. Um, but then he also is like saying, 22:21.590 --> 22:23.650 and get, you know, so-and-so, I don't remember the character's name, with the helicopter. 22:23.690 --> 22:27.230 And if he gives you any, any problem for it, tell him it's obstruction of 22:27.730 --> 22:30.410 justice, make him get up here. So it's obviously like a civilian that they're like 22:30.910 --> 22:34.597 commandeering to get the helicopter involved. Which shows that this movie took place 22:34.807 --> 22:38.131 in 1982 and not now, because a town the size of Hope 22:38.357 --> 22:42.568 would have 9 Black Hawk attack copters owned by the police department, 22:42.633 --> 22:45.959 as well as like multiple armored vehicles. Um, the police have 22:46.459 --> 22:48.496 themselves an RV. Um, 22:51.062 --> 22:55.264 so we— this whole, like, all of the revenge, 22:55.392 --> 22:58.387 like him beating the guys up and getting away, it's very exciting. This is like 22:58.887 --> 23:01.714 a really good scene. Uh, and he ends up like running through the woods. 23:01.779 --> 23:03.049 The dogs are after him. He's not that far ahead of them because he's been 23:03.549 --> 23:06.990 hobbled and stuff, and then he's going They were way out in 23:07.490 --> 23:09.650 front. And they're moving a little slower uphill. So he is kind of like, 23:10.150 --> 23:12.730 you know, getting away in a sense. But yeah. But then he gets to the 23:13.230 --> 23:16.550 end and he looks down and it's just like a sheer cliff. Ridiculous. Very Richard 23:17.050 --> 23:19.950 Kimball style, right? You know, actually the one I thought of when I saw it 23:20.450 --> 23:23.570 was Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, Robert Redford and Paul Newman. 23:24.070 --> 23:26.890 You ever seen that one? They end up on a cliff. They gotta jump into 23:27.390 --> 23:29.870 a river from like this cliff to get away from the Bolivian army. But yeah. 23:30.370 --> 23:33.590 It was River Wild also where the dad ends up, you know. 23:34.090 --> 23:36.210 So we got some good cliff action. So way too high for him to jump. 23:37.734 --> 23:41.098 Right, so he starts kind of climbing. He's like climbing down, 23:41.130 --> 23:44.300 but also just trying to like cling to the sides so 23:44.349 --> 23:47.482 he can't be seen. Yep, and he is making some good Stallone noises 23:47.595 --> 23:51.660 throughout this scene. There's a lot of 23:52.351 --> 23:55.950 so the helicopter comes through this ravine, so they can see 23:56.450 --> 23:59.325 him on the cliff. And in this helicopter is Galt, who's the cop, the Sam 23:59.423 --> 24:03.830 Elliott voice guy from before with his rifle, and he's not. Trying to 24:04.330 --> 24:08.090 arrest anybody. No, and then he's yelling over the over the radio 24:08.590 --> 24:11.430 like I want him alive. Stop because they can hear the gunshots. Then he calls 24:11.930 --> 24:14.430 over because yeah because Galt starts shooting at him and missing. But then he can 24:14.930 --> 24:17.150 hear the gunshots. He's like Galt, Galt, stop it! I want him alive. We got 24:17.650 --> 24:20.390 to arrest him. Don't you know? Stop shooting or whatever. Because you know they're at 24:20.890 --> 24:23.330 least as far as they're aware he's not armed. He's got the knife or whatever. 24:23.830 --> 24:27.210 He's not shooting anybody. Right? You know so they can tell that. But basically like 24:27.710 --> 24:30.730 Rambo has to make a call here because the the helicopter is getting steadier and 24:31.230 --> 24:34.386 steadier and closer and closer. And he's He's like fully exposed. I mean, there's nowhere 24:34.886 --> 24:37.446 to hide where he is, so he just jumps. He kind of lets go and 24:37.463 --> 24:41.016 kind of jumps at a tree, which like, this is a little super 24:41.516 --> 24:43.591 soldier-y, don't get me wrong. It's not like a human being should do this, 24:43.607 --> 24:46.876 but if you're gonna fall that far, like the only chance you have of 24:46.892 --> 24:49.242 surviving is going through a tree. Sure. Yeah, because you can break the fall a 24:49.742 --> 24:52.309 little bit, and if you don't break bones on the way down, maybe you're okay. 24:52.551 --> 24:55.682 And of course he's fine. Yeah, and he, he breaks his fall with the tree. 24:56.101 --> 25:01.332 The dive that he takes from the cliff to the tree looks like it's 25:01.832 --> 25:03.379 40 feet before he even hits the top of the tree. And then it's just 25:03.879 --> 25:06.334 like, it's one thing to like be near the top of the tree and sort 25:06.834 --> 25:10.012 of fall down it branch to branch. Yeah, yeah. To leap and have to free 25:10.512 --> 25:13.674 fall that far just to reach the tree, right? You're probably fucked. Like, that's not— 25:14.174 --> 25:17.335 you're not surviving that. But John Rambo— John Rambo survives it. That's not going to 25:17.400 --> 25:20.483 be close to the worst thing that happens to John Rambo. Yeah, 25:20.531 --> 25:24.065 so he's down there and he is injured, um, but not like 25:24.565 --> 25:28.440 fully debilitated, so he can still move. But the helicopter now is like in this 25:28.940 --> 25:32.040 ravine and lower, and the helicopter pilot's like, hey, 25:32.540 --> 25:35.580 this is like not safe to be in here. Right. Like, I'm gonna lose control 25:36.080 --> 25:38.620 of this thing, whatever. There's a storm coming, all that shit. And Danny, he's still 25:39.120 --> 25:42.099 yelling over the radio about stop shooting, like whatever, all this stuff. And it's like, 25:42.599 --> 25:45.220 look, at this point you're talking about murder. Yeah. Like, the man is at the 25:45.720 --> 25:49.060 bottom of a ravine. You've got him covered. You know where he is. There's other 25:49.560 --> 25:51.820 cops coming. Like, arrest him. Like, you know what I mean? There's no reason to 25:52.320 --> 25:55.680 shoot him now. And so to defend himself, Rambo finds a pretty big rock 25:56.180 --> 25:59.700 and he hurls it up at the helicopter. And it, like, breaks and kind of 26:00.200 --> 26:03.580 shatters part of the front windshield. But that makes the helicopter pilot, like, jerk the 26:04.080 --> 26:07.160 thing, and Gault falls about 30, 40 feet, probably, out of the helicopter. 26:07.220 --> 26:11.300 No tree. No tree. Straight onto a rock. So he's done. 26:11.420 --> 26:14.460 And now John Rambo has a gun. Ho, 26:14.960 --> 26:17.320 ho, ho. Dude, absolutely. 26:17.820 --> 26:21.640 Absolutely. Now I have a machine gun moment. So yeah, 26:22.140 --> 26:25.500 Gault falls, immediately dead. Satisfying to see that guy go out, 'cause he was, 26:26.000 --> 26:27.880 like, a true psycho, right? Of the shitty cops in this movie, clearly the shittiest. 26:28.380 --> 26:32.581 The worst one, right? Right. Um, we've got Rambo quickly 26:32.613 --> 26:36.313 doing a little self-surgery, just like in Predator and Roadhouse. We very 26:36.813 --> 26:40.788 much enjoy that. And, uh, and he comes out to the cops, 26:40.885 --> 26:43.868 are, you know, they see that Gault is down there, and he comes out, 26:43.885 --> 26:47.416 he's like, there's one man dead. I don't want any— like, 26:47.513 --> 26:50.606 I don't want any harm. Like, this is just something that happened. 26:50.945 --> 26:54.359 But again, cops see a dead cop, just like in The Fugitive. 26:54.472 --> 26:57.902 Like, yes. I'm sorry, you don't have a chance. Like, you're not gonna 26:58.402 --> 27:01.143 get taken alive, at least in that moment. Like, no, 27:01.223 --> 27:04.944 no, they just start firing at him and, you know, he's, I didn't do anything, 27:05.040 --> 27:08.329 and all this stuff. And then they— so let me ask you this as a 27:08.829 --> 27:12.515 connoisseur of the Rambo franchise. Yeah, so it looks like 27:13.015 --> 27:16.542 John Rambo gets shot in the head. He gets shot and he kind of like 27:16.606 --> 27:19.878 grabs at his eye or his face or his head, and the next time we 27:20.378 --> 27:23.793 see him, he's got that classic Rambo like headband tied around 27:23.809 --> 27:27.291 his head. We never get any other indication that he suffered 27:27.791 --> 27:31.286 a significant injury to his head. There's not blood running down his face. What the 27:31.786 --> 27:35.940 fuck happened there? What is that? My only thought was that it was a ricochet 27:36.440 --> 27:39.567 of something that got him in the head, maybe like a piece of rock or 27:40.067 --> 27:44.349 something else, or just like it very barely grazed him, 'cause he does clearly react 27:44.621 --> 27:47.783 to getting hit in the head. Right. Yeah, and then he's got his headband. 27:47.831 --> 27:50.783 The headband thing, but there's not really any mention of it. I almost feel like 27:51.283 --> 27:53.640 there's a deleted scene somewhere that explains a little more about what happened. But, 27:54.073 --> 27:56.846 but yeah, so he does get shot and he has to then run away because 27:56.862 --> 27:59.540 now he knows like they're not just gonna take him alive. Like, he can't just 28:00.040 --> 28:03.532 surrender basically. Yeah. He has to like defend himself. And in the meantime, 28:03.548 --> 28:06.626 so when the cops had him at first, he wasn't giving them 28:06.722 --> 28:10.714 information. They ripped his dog tag off. That's right. And of course were belittling 28:10.810 --> 28:14.049 him for having a dog tag. This is kind of another media 28:14.549 --> 28:18.426 thing, is that between the generations, right, if you had like the World War II 28:18.926 --> 28:22.145 generation, right, looking at the Vietnam vet generation, and they 28:22.209 --> 28:25.336 had this attitude of like, well, Well, at least we won our war. Like that 28:25.836 --> 28:29.360 kind of shit. As if— I mean, look, the individual soldier has no say in 28:29.409 --> 28:32.038 whether or not you win or lose that war. Um, 28:32.391 --> 28:35.518 but they looked up his information in the meantime, so, uh, 28:36.143 --> 28:39.270 they're reporting this to the cops. They're saying like, okay, he was a former Green 28:39.770 --> 28:43.599 Beret, he's won a Congressional Medal of Honor and everything. He's a 28:43.615 --> 28:47.287 war hero. David Caruso is like, I knew there was something about 28:47.787 --> 28:51.760 that guy. I love how much he loves Rambo's shit throughout the As his 28:52.260 --> 28:56.300 friends are dying around him, he's like, hey, that guy's awesome! 28:56.800 --> 29:00.100 I told you guys he was special. Y'all never listen to me. I should 29:00.600 --> 29:03.560 wear my sunglasses more. So now we know what's up, uh, move to Miami with 29:04.060 --> 29:07.140 Rambo, right? And the— but the storm, the rainstorm. Oh, that's right. 29:07.640 --> 29:09.400 Now, yeah, it's starting to storm. The cops have got to kind of regroup, 29:09.600 --> 29:13.000 and they've got their cute little raincoats on their hats so that the hats 29:13.500 --> 29:16.940 look like— First note right here, I love that shit so much. It makes them 29:17.440 --> 29:21.144 look like like such immense pansies. It's the silliest thing in the world. 29:21.208 --> 29:24.710 Coats on their hats, dude. Like, just let your hat get wet or take off 29:25.210 --> 29:28.580 the stupid cowboy hat. You're in Washington, not fucking New Mexico. You would look cooler 29:28.645 --> 29:32.178 just carrying a parasol like Farnsworth Bentley or something like 29:32.678 --> 29:36.595 that. Like, yeah, it's such a funny look. The hat bags always get me. 29:36.739 --> 29:39.887 I really enjoy that. Yeah. Uh, and the other cops are like, you know, 29:40.032 --> 29:43.730 giving Caruso a hard time because they're just like— because he, he's basically like, 29:44.230 --> 29:47.370 we should be careful, we don't know what this guy's capable of. And they're 29:47.870 --> 29:51.130 kind of like, don't be a pussy, you just saw another cop get killed, 29:51.630 --> 29:54.090 like, I'll kill you if you don't help. Right, which is wild. But yeah, 29:54.590 --> 29:57.030 they literally do say something along those lines. And then it's like— and then their 29:57.530 --> 30:00.570 argument is basically like, it doesn't matter who he is, he's one guy, we have 30:01.070 --> 30:04.410 guns. Now they also know that Rambo took— well, they don't— I guess they 30:04.910 --> 30:08.320 don't know for sure that they took— that he took Galt's gun yet. 30:08.390 --> 30:12.070 Terrible police work. Yeah, they discover the body of a guy who was known to 30:12.570 --> 30:14.750 have a gun and definitely didn't have on the jacket jacket that he was wearing 30:15.250 --> 30:18.070 when he fell. That's true. Yeah, yeah. And they're just like— and they mentioned him 30:18.570 --> 30:20.710 taking the radio. They mentioned him taking the radio, so they know he's got the 30:21.210 --> 30:23.170 radio. They saw, you know, they can tell that Galt's not wearing a jacket, 30:23.830 --> 30:26.950 whatever. There's also John McClane here, right? He's got his radio, he's got his gun, 30:27.230 --> 30:30.430 he's getting some clothes, he's got shoes luckily. Yeah, that's true. Um, 30:30.930 --> 30:33.630 but he kind of sets up, uh, we see him setting something up, Rambo, 30:34.130 --> 30:36.490 and it's not super clear right away what it is. But as the dogs and 30:36.990 --> 30:39.450 the cops are coming through the forest, it's starting to rain, it's super dark, 30:39.950 --> 30:42.856 you know, whatever. They see what looks like a figure and they basically open fire 30:43.064 --> 30:47.251 and set the dogs off on him. And, uh, there's somebody 30:47.751 --> 30:49.962 gets shot and it's hard to tell if one of the cops shoots the dog 30:50.462 --> 30:54.502 guy or if Rambo does. Really hard to tell. But we do hear gunshots 30:54.550 --> 30:58.304 and dogs whimpering, so the dogs get killed. Yep. 2 of them— They do mention 30:58.804 --> 31:00.711 the dogs getting killed. 2 of them get shot and one of them, it sounds 31:01.211 --> 31:03.294 like, gets killed with a knife, maybe because they don't hear a gunshot and they 31:03.794 --> 31:07.079 mention that. Um, but really it was just he took the jacket from Gault and 31:07.579 --> 31:09.434 like set it up on like a stick to make like a scarecrow kind of 31:09.466 --> 31:12.910 thing, like a like a decoy. So now they start 31:13.410 --> 31:16.692 wandering through the cops, and they've got the dog owner guy is hurt. The dogs 31:17.192 --> 31:20.873 are dead. Gault's dead. They're all start wandering through the the the 31:21.065 --> 31:24.590 the thing through through the woods, and he's like hiding and 31:24.606 --> 31:27.859 like jumping up at them and like coming out of the trees. It is cool. 31:27.971 --> 31:31.159 I mean, it's great like guerrilla warfare. Like he's such a 31:31.175 --> 31:34.716 ghost in this situation and just popping out everywhere, and he has laid 31:34.764 --> 31:38.054 these very elaborate. For how much time he had to set them up. 31:39.342 --> 31:42.642 Yeah, not very much time and very good. That entire 31:43.142 --> 31:45.862 spike strip thing that one of the cops walks into— I could figure out how 31:46.362 --> 31:50.104 to spring-load a log, you know, and perfectly like whittle everything 31:50.217 --> 31:53.330 down within 20 minutes. Oh my God, if that. You know, this is, this is 31:53.346 --> 31:57.047 Rambo. We love him. Yep. Uh, so one of the guys, 31:57.305 --> 32:00.061 uh, so they end up like having these various fates, and then we see one 32:00.561 --> 32:04.130 of the cops named Singleton who's tied up, tied to a tree with this wire 32:04.630 --> 32:08.081 and everything. And they go to— they go to get him, and Rambo pops 32:08.145 --> 32:11.597 out with a knife. Yep. Will Teasle goes to get Singleton. Rambo puts a 32:12.097 --> 32:14.953 knife to his head, basically saying, I could have killed them all. 32:15.772 --> 32:18.936 I could have killed you. Right. And he goes, in town, you're the 32:18.984 --> 32:22.211 law. Out here, it's me. Yep. Which— beautiful. 32:22.340 --> 32:25.792 Let it go. He says, let it go. Oh yeah. And that's Teasle's 32:25.808 --> 32:29.550 chance. He could just— and honestly, I mean, from Rambo's perspective, 32:29.582 --> 32:32.985 this is the best thing I can do to show you that I'm not uh, 32:33.257 --> 32:36.462 that I'm not a danger to you is actually become a danger to you and 32:36.962 --> 32:40.051 then not kill you. Yeah, it makes— honestly, it's good logic. It's basically saying, 32:40.387 --> 32:43.111 I need to show you I can get you, that I can beat you if 32:43.611 --> 32:46.235 you make this a thing. Yeah. But also that I'm not some psycho that's just 32:46.735 --> 32:50.658 out here killing to kill, right? That's— that's— he nails that tenor just 32:51.158 --> 32:54.247 right, which is not— that's a— that's a thin line. That's a real thin line 32:54.747 --> 32:57.307 he walks on, but he does it. You know, with the egos involved, it is 32:57.807 --> 33:00.095 impossible to pull that off because you can't have a knife to your throat and 33:00.595 --> 33:03.420 then be like, like, okay, cool, I'll let him go. Bye-bye. No, fair. But it 33:03.920 --> 33:05.640 is like you were saying, it's kind of the only thing Rambo could do. 33:06.140 --> 33:09.300 The best strategy he had there. Only thing he could do. Um, so at this 33:09.800 --> 33:13.260 point now we've called in the cavalry. Yeah, there's news, 33:13.760 --> 33:16.960 there's the National Guard, state police, we got the National Guard, there's army jeeps 33:17.460 --> 33:20.560 and all this stuff. Uh, I was thinking this would be maybe a, a potential 33:21.060 --> 33:23.880 hashtag because it happens in a lot of, uh, films that we have. Yeah, 33:24.380 --> 33:27.760 jurisdiction fight. Oh yeah, right. Who's jurisdiction? Because they hate when the feds come 33:28.260 --> 33:30.420 in and try to take over. This is my crime scene. Oh, thanks for your 33:30.910 --> 33:33.900 Sheriff, we'll be taking it from here. All that kind of stuff. Die Hard, 33:34.400 --> 33:36.970 The Fugitive. Oh man, there's a lot of these there, right? 33:37.500 --> 33:40.900 It's everywhere. Uh, jurisdictional grievance, maybe that's what we could call it. Yeah, 33:41.400 --> 33:44.960 yeah. But yeah, so there's all this stuff going on, and, and the state police 33:45.460 --> 33:48.960 guy is there to kind of talk to Will Teasle, Sheriff Teasle. And, and Teasle's 33:49.460 --> 33:52.020 like, you know, like, oh, this guy did this, because he's basically trying to play 33:52.520 --> 33:54.180 the victim. This guy came after a cop, he killed a cop, like all this 33:54.680 --> 33:56.920 stuff. It's like, like, what was his crime? And he kind of like doesn't get 33:57.420 --> 34:00.984 into like, you know, what exactly he's being arrested for. And that's when, 34:01.241 --> 34:04.680 uh, sort of the next— Well, the news drops quickly where someone says, 34:04.856 --> 34:07.989 well, you know, one of our deputies said that Galt was actually really hard 34:08.489 --> 34:12.392 on Rambo before, was really rough with him, right? So Dennehy dismisses 34:12.424 --> 34:16.360 that, and then he's like, what kind of a God would make a man like 34:16.860 --> 34:19.863 this? And then probably the best laugh line of the whole movie, 34:19.975 --> 34:23.815 right? We got, we got Richard Crenna, we got Colonel Trautman, 34:23.831 --> 34:27.269 who walks in, he's like, God didn't make Rambo. I made 34:27.769 --> 34:31.347 him. I made him. And goes into an awesome fucking 34:31.379 --> 34:35.072 speech about how Rambo is the best and how he's 34:35.152 --> 34:38.540 been trained to eat things that make a billy goat puke 34:39.040 --> 34:42.345 and survive and all these things. He's trained to ignore weather, to ignore pain, 34:42.537 --> 34:45.861 to— oh, I just want someone to talk to me the way that Colonel Trautman 34:45.893 --> 34:48.590 talks about Rambo. The, uh, the audience will have heard that at the beginning of 34:49.090 --> 34:51.432 this episode, I assure you. Yes, thank you. That was when I was watching the 34:51.932 --> 34:53.711 movie. I marked that as like, oh well, This is the intro clip. Like, 34:54.240 --> 34:57.803 it is, it is so good. Yeah. Um, and, uh, 34:58.252 --> 35:01.654 and you know, as far as this being a non-comedy that is hilarious, 35:02.184 --> 35:05.217 this is the kind of shit that tickles me to no end. I was laughing 35:05.265 --> 35:08.891 so hard during that. I really like it. We get with Trautman's appearance, 35:08.939 --> 35:11.667 we do get this sort of, uh, struggle or this, this, uh, 35:11.748 --> 35:15.166 conflict between him and Teasle. And it's sort of like, it's the engine 35:15.262 --> 35:17.412 for like the rest of the movie, which is sort of like, what do you 35:17.444 --> 35:20.860 do about Rambo now? Because you've got a situation where Guy who never should have 35:21.360 --> 35:23.460 been in that police station to begin with, should have been left alone, let go, 35:23.960 --> 35:26.260 get a fucking bite of food, and on his way. You know, now he's in 35:26.760 --> 35:30.220 a position where he has committed significant crimes. Yep. Including, like, attempted murder 35:30.720 --> 35:34.580 and, like, all this other stuff, right? So, uh, there's— there's no way 35:35.080 --> 35:38.500 to just be like, Rambo gets to leave. Even Trautman 35:39.000 --> 35:42.540 says, if you back off now, a couple days from now, he'll leave 35:43.040 --> 35:46.000 these mountains, and he'll— you'll pick him up working at a car wash in Seattle 35:46.500 --> 35:48.760 or something. Like, he'll resurface. It's not like he's gonna stay hidden, so you'll be 35:49.260 --> 35:51.370 able to get him. But if you try to do it this way, you're all 35:51.870 --> 35:55.310 fucking dead. This is him in his, like, trained battle 35:55.810 --> 35:58.890 arena. Like, you are literally walking into the type of scenario that he 35:59.390 --> 36:02.950 was specifically trained to do. You're fucked. And it's an interesting thing, 'cause Trauma's 36:03.450 --> 36:06.790 not saying, let him go. He's saying, let him go for now. And he's almost 36:07.290 --> 36:10.830 playing the role of, like, the Jurassic Park person if there's, 36:11.330 --> 36:14.690 like, a T-Rex on the loose, where it's like, yeah, we gotta do something about 36:15.190 --> 36:17.690 it, but let me tell you how this thing operates so that you can actually 36:18.190 --> 36:19.290 know how to deal with it. Yeah, he's like a game warden for John Rambo. 36:19.790 --> 36:22.600 Yeah, dude. For sure. 36:23.529 --> 36:26.814 Um, yeah, so Trautman serves like a really good, uh, 36:26.830 --> 36:28.785 purpose here. And, um, 36:30.131 --> 36:33.432 so they say, uh, they say something about, um, well, 36:33.961 --> 36:36.926 we got 200 men coming here. And Trautman's like, well, 36:36.942 --> 36:40.275 if you are going to send 200 men after him, there's one other thing you 36:40.339 --> 36:43.384 have to send: a good supply of body bags. 36:43.480 --> 36:47.150 Like, how about 200 body bags? Well, I think he's saying 36:47.650 --> 36:50.940 He won't kill everybody. He's just gonna kill a shitload of guys. 36:51.190 --> 36:54.370 Like, eventually you'll back off before all 200 die, I think is maybe what he's 36:54.870 --> 36:58.190 saying. And there's a quick shot. So as Trautman's kind of talking 36:58.690 --> 37:02.250 about Rambo's ability to survive, there's a shot of Rambo like hunting 37:02.750 --> 37:05.990 a wild boar. Just like jumps down and kills it. And then one of 37:06.490 --> 37:09.200 my favorite things, 'cause I don't like seeing the animal actually killed or butchered, 37:09.210 --> 37:12.290 just the quick cut to him carrying the big old leg of boar on his 37:12.790 --> 37:15.690 shoulder. The hock, the ham hock. Yeah, yeah. And then he's found himself a little 37:16.190 --> 37:18.440 like an old mine or something to sort of hang out in. and he's built 37:18.940 --> 37:22.080 a fire and he's sort of, you know, been able to— he cooks the hog 37:22.580 --> 37:25.300 there and it's clearly where, you know, he's like sleeping. 37:26.310 --> 37:28.810 And there's— I think they're trying to get ahold of him on the radio, 37:28.880 --> 37:32.300 right? Yeah. So Trautman and Teasle are back at the National Guard kind of comms 37:32.800 --> 37:35.480 tent and there's a guy, you know, like, like, like, John Rambo, like, please come 37:35.980 --> 37:38.000 in, like, or whatever. And he's not responding, but we see him, you know, 37:38.500 --> 37:41.740 he's got the radio and he can hear it. And they're just like— 37:42.240 --> 37:44.740 he's like, yeah, he's not gonna give up his position for you. Like, if you, 37:45.240 --> 37:46.770 you know, which I don't really understand that much about this kind of technology, 37:46.800 --> 37:50.457 but apparently you can like triangulate a handheld radio 37:50.858 --> 37:54.226 based on I don't know what because yeah it doesn't work like cell phones would 37:54.726 --> 37:57.112 work because cell phones would be off of a cell tower many years later obviously 37:57.417 --> 38:00.480 so there you have multiple cell towers the signal is coming directly 38:00.980 --> 38:03.527 from the radio then there's a way to like zone in on it something yeah 38:04.027 --> 38:05.516 something so yeah so they're able to do that and try to do that but 38:06.016 --> 38:08.627 they can't get him to respond if he doesn't you know start talking through it 38:08.659 --> 38:12.780 then that doesn't do them any good um so they do convince Troutman to to 38:12.892 --> 38:15.420 reach out to him basically yeah be like like, you know, and he says he's 38:15.920 --> 38:18.700 using all the code words, right? I don't remember exactly, so something about Raven, 38:19.200 --> 38:22.260 come in, this is so-and-so, or whatever. It's apparently Rambo's code name or something. 38:22.760 --> 38:26.160 Yeah, and he's totally go— he's approaching this as if like, I'm dealing with a 38:26.660 --> 38:30.140 guy who thinks that right now he is in the Vietnam War, and, 38:30.640 --> 38:33.160 uh, and I have to like get, get through to him. So he's able to 38:33.660 --> 38:36.920 finally get Rambo to, to pick up, and, you know, he— there's a little 38:37.420 --> 38:40.620 chat back and forth, but, uh, Trautman's like, oh, you know, 38:41.120 --> 38:42.540 you don't, you don't want to do this, you don't want to hurt all these 38:43.040 --> 38:46.300 friendly civilians. And Rambo's like, there are no friendly civilians, you know, 38:46.800 --> 38:49.540 referring to the way that he's treated, I'm sure, and everything. Yeah, but also one 38:50.040 --> 38:52.640 of the first indications— because by the end of this movie, like, it's hard to 38:53.140 --> 38:55.620 root for John Rambo. The way he fucks that town up later is like, 38:56.120 --> 38:58.420 okay, bro, like, chill out, right? So this is a point where the first time 38:58.920 --> 39:00.960 where I went, that's a scary fucking thing for a guy like this to say. 39:00.970 --> 39:03.680 Yeah, you know what I mean? Like, there's not a lot of sympathy for me 39:04.180 --> 39:05.740 to— I don't have a lot of sympathy for someone who says there are no 39:06.240 --> 39:09.620 friendly civilians. Oh, totally. That is pretty dark. Now here's the other thing, he's using 39:10.120 --> 39:13.582 civilians in the military versus non-military way. 39:13.854 --> 39:17.159 Yeah. You can also sometimes— will be— will they will refer to— I guess maybe 39:17.659 --> 39:20.496 the difference is more cops and citizens. I don't know, civilians. Sometimes that's a distinction 39:20.592 --> 39:23.945 used to even mean non-police, non-law enforcement types, in which 39:24.042 --> 39:27.266 case it would be a scarier thing for him to say. But he's lumping 39:27.331 --> 39:30.042 all of these sheriffs and etc. in with, quote, 39:30.250 --> 39:33.427 civilians, right? So for him, that's the sort of people who don't 39:33.443 --> 39:36.363 like directly understand what it was like to be in the war and all that 39:36.863 --> 39:40.560 stuff. 'Cause even, uh, even Trautman says, like, well, I'm a civilian now. 39:41.060 --> 39:43.780 Right. 'Cause he was out and everything. He's working a desk job. Still gets to 39:44.280 --> 39:47.110 wear the uniform. He works at the Pentagon. He's just at a desk job. 39:47.140 --> 39:50.620 He's shining his ass with a chair. Yeah. Whatever it was. 39:51.120 --> 39:54.860 Um, and so Rambo's like, you know, if it weren't for this king-shit 39:55.360 --> 39:58.620 cop pushing me around, whatever. And Trautman's like, well, I understand that, 39:59.120 --> 40:02.660 but there's a problem. He's like, they drew first blood, not me. They drew 40:03.160 --> 40:05.620 first blood. He said it twice. And then Rambo kinda— he kinda goes into, 40:05.720 --> 40:06.740 like, a revenge coma a little bit, you know? 40:09.300 --> 40:12.980 But they were able to pinpoint his location because of that conversation. 40:13.480 --> 40:16.260 And so now they've sent all these National Guard guys up and they find the 40:16.760 --> 40:18.220 entrance to the mine that he's at. And they actually see him, I think, 40:18.720 --> 40:21.180 like race back inside as they arrive and start shooting. So there's a little bit 40:21.680 --> 40:25.080 of a gunfight that goes on. Basically, there's like this one National Guard dude. 40:25.580 --> 40:27.560 And this is the funny part too, there's National Guard, but they're also treating them 40:28.060 --> 40:30.820 like Army Reserves where it's like they're all dudes that like have regular jobs. 40:31.160 --> 40:33.360 Like, is that how the National Guard— I actually don't know like how the National 40:33.860 --> 40:36.620 Guard works. So I don't think National Guard is full-time. Okay. But yeah, that's a 40:37.120 --> 40:38.540 good point. But they really— this guy says to me, I gotta be back at 40:39.040 --> 40:42.327 the drugstore tomorrow. It is funny. I do like that they highlight kind of 40:42.827 --> 40:46.742 the amateurishness of this, but I think it's also to, to draw a distinction between 40:47.242 --> 40:50.972 like a real soldier like Rambo and Trautman and these pussy weekend warrior National Guard 40:51.020 --> 40:54.265 guys. Right. Again, so much right-wing propaganda. Yeah. 40:54.555 --> 40:58.571 Yeah. So yeah, the National Guard, they're all kind of like chickening out. 40:58.668 --> 41:01.174 They're like, they don't want to shoot at them. They're all ducked behind this. 41:01.624 --> 41:04.499 And then the one guy's like, fuck it. Like, let's get the rocket launcher. 41:04.612 --> 41:07.728 Right. And so stupid. I'm sorry if you're, 41:07.809 --> 41:11.390 if you're not a full-time Military guy, you don't 41:11.890 --> 41:14.950 get rocket launcher levels of weapons to fuck around with. Well, you shouldn't anyway. 41:15.450 --> 41:18.650 That's for sure. That's all. Also, I was almost convinced we were going to get 41:19.150 --> 41:22.330 a commando style shooting backwards moment out of this. Is this guy even 41:22.830 --> 41:25.610 holding it the right way? Like, but sure enough, he was. It kind of blows 41:26.110 --> 41:28.570 up the entrance to the mine, which if nothing else just collapses it, right? 41:29.070 --> 41:31.450 They can't even tell if they hit anything or what, but now the entrance is 41:31.950 --> 41:35.130 collapsed. The whole time, it's total like we fixed the 41:35.630 --> 41:38.590 glitched solution. Oh, so Rambo's dead? No, no, 41:39.090 --> 41:42.290 no. I don't. I don't think you understand there, Professor. We collapsed the mine. 41:42.790 --> 41:45.630 We collapsed the mine. Um, but the whole time Will Teasle's been on the radio 41:46.130 --> 41:49.190 like, you know, wait till I get there, don't shoot, don't engage him, 41:49.690 --> 41:51.290 don't go in, wait till I get there, wait till I get there. So then 41:51.790 --> 41:55.310 he gets there and they're all taking like pictures like, like it's fucking Iwo Jima 41:55.810 --> 41:58.630 or something, like, oh, Soldier of Fortune magazine and stuff. And he's like, I told 41:59.130 --> 42:01.210 you guys to wait. And he's like, come on, Will, what are you talking about? 42:01.710 --> 42:04.850 It's like, no, like, you don't just come on, Will, that shit. Like, 42:05.350 --> 42:08.669 fucking wait. Um, and I think Trautman, 42:08.942 --> 42:12.037 uh, now he's gotten word of like— I, 42:12.951 --> 42:15.484 I think I'm sure people have been talking about the way the cops were treating 42:15.597 --> 42:18.804 Rambo before, so he's kind of like, I know you have him on some bullshit, 42:18.820 --> 42:22.251 like what are his crimes, right? Exactly. And he says vagrancy, and Trautman's 42:22.751 --> 42:26.196 just like, oh, vagrancy, that's gonna look really great on his tombstone at Arlington. 42:26.340 --> 42:29.435 War hero killed for vagrancy or whatever. 42:29.804 --> 42:33.011 Yeah. Um, so, but now, uh, Rambo himself has got to find his way 42:33.511 --> 42:35.980 through mind because, you know, they collapsed the front. But he's not dead, he's still 42:36.480 --> 42:40.020 alive. Um, he finds a bunch of like oil or, or, 42:40.520 --> 42:42.420 you know, kerosene or something that was left behind, whatever, and is able to like 42:42.920 --> 42:46.070 make kind of a, a torch, um, to walk around. And as he's walking through, 42:46.100 --> 42:49.500 he gets introduced to a shitload of rats, which is a new tag on 42:50.000 --> 42:52.400 the website. This and this and Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade have a shitload 42:52.900 --> 42:55.680 of rats. Hell yeah, really, man. Good amount of rats. Oh my God, there's a 42:56.180 --> 42:57.680 good amount of rats in that as well. We should add that one. But like, 42:58.180 --> 43:02.280 it's, it's, it's all, altogether too many rats. Is this real? I would love— 43:02.780 --> 43:06.002 you know what I would love to hear from is like a rat expert Is 43:06.098 --> 43:09.642 this really what happens? Because that is terrifying, right? When they like attack, 43:09.706 --> 43:11.470 like to try to stay out of the water or something. I don't know what 43:11.970 --> 43:14.614 was going on. Dude, get out of here. Like they didn't seem scared enough by 43:15.114 --> 43:19.393 this cool like torch that he made up. There was a quick shot of of 43:20.147 --> 43:23.402 the Sheriff Teasel back in his office, and in his background he had 43:23.434 --> 43:27.267 clearly some military medals there. That's true. So I don't know with the 43:27.347 --> 43:30.747 age difference if he would probably have been a Korean War age person, right? 43:31.110 --> 43:34.640 Probably. Um, so, uh, so Teasle and Trautman now are like in 43:35.140 --> 43:38.320 town, you know, for the night. Like, okay, well, we'll go back after this killer 43:38.820 --> 43:42.180 in the morning and, uh, and let's have some drinks. And he's talking to Trautman 43:42.680 --> 43:45.440 about kind of like— Well, no, they think he's dead, right? Yeah, they all think 43:45.940 --> 43:49.240 he's dead. And Trautman just— well, Trautman saw— so one of 43:49.740 --> 43:52.640 the things that Trautman saw was some smoke, right? Was that— he saw a little 43:53.140 --> 43:55.360 smoke coming up that he thought like, okay, this didn't have to do with the 43:55.860 --> 43:59.290 implosion. This is like Something's— something's still in there, whatever. 43:59.790 --> 44:02.550 Yeah, kind of thing. But he doesn't say anything to Teasle. Teasle's clearly operating under 44:03.050 --> 44:05.990 the idea that Rambo's dead now. Um, but they are like, yeah, chatting. There's a 44:06.490 --> 44:10.170 lot of— a lot of this movie is conversations between Trautman 44:10.670 --> 44:13.910 and Teasle. Like, a whole lot of this movie is— is those 2 characters talk 44:14.410 --> 44:16.710 to each other. They have more dialogue than Rambo by a lot. By a wide 44:17.210 --> 44:20.090 margin. And they talk to each other more than any 2 other characters, you know, 44:20.590 --> 44:23.020 talk to each other. And so there's a lot more kind of just conversation about 44:23.520 --> 44:26.960 that. But basically we cut back to Rambo and he's— oh, oh, sorry. 44:27.460 --> 44:30.560 And Teasle's like, you know, what he says to Trautman is like, so if you 44:31.060 --> 44:33.840 do see him, like, would you wrap your arms around him or would you blow 44:34.340 --> 44:37.680 his brains out? And Trautman says, uh, you know, I'd have to, 44:38.180 --> 44:39.740 I'd have to get a look at him first. I have to see how he 44:40.240 --> 44:44.900 is. Yeah. So, right, because, because if, if he's 44:45.400 --> 44:48.540 calm, then I'm gonna— yeah, like, whatever. If he's coming out 44:49.040 --> 44:51.440 like a psychotic, like he's had a break, yeah, yeah, we have to put him 44:51.940 --> 44:54.986 down. Like, you know, more like a rabid dog. I mean, that's exactly the way 44:55.275 --> 44:58.502 that he is kind of treated as this like invention that gets out of hand, 44:58.550 --> 45:01.489 or this creation that gets out of hand. Monster. Yeah. Um, 45:02.019 --> 45:05.567 so, so yeah, now we're back with Rambo, and he finds the exit. He finds 45:06.067 --> 45:08.104 the exit from the mine, and he's able to climb up this ladder kind of 45:08.604 --> 45:10.769 out of the mine, and it's real close to where a whole bunch of activity 45:11.269 --> 45:13.965 is happening. He hasn't gone real far, um, but he's able to sort of perch 45:14.465 --> 45:16.951 himself above the highway or the road there, and as a bunch of like trucks 45:17.451 --> 45:20.899 go by, he jumps onto the last one in the line and slides 45:21.399 --> 45:23.560 his way down into the cab of the truck. And there's this, like, young guy 45:23.688 --> 45:26.429 in there. He's like, oh, and he's like, what you got in the back? 45:26.734 --> 45:30.164 M60? Okay, bye. Get out. He's like, open the door, 45:30.420 --> 45:33.786 get out. He was— I, I had forgotten, 45:33.851 --> 45:37.329 like, the exact sequence of this movie, and I started writing down earlier, 45:37.377 --> 45:40.839 like, what are the found items that Rambo gets to use, right? So I 45:41.339 --> 45:44.366 thought it'd be a fun little inventory list, but it starts with, like, okay, 45:44.526 --> 45:47.635 a piece of wire and a tarp that he cuts into, like, making a shirt. 45:48.150 --> 45:51.540 Yep. A rock. Yeah. Galt's jacket. Yeah. 45:52.040 --> 45:55.260 Galt's rifle. Uh, just mystery flammable liquid in 45:55.760 --> 45:57.900 the mine that he used to light those torches. Yeah, whatever that was. Uh, 45:58.400 --> 46:00.800 and then a truck with a machine gun in the back of it. The M60 46:01.300 --> 46:02.740 with a shit ton of ammo. That's the key thing that he found. I think 46:03.240 --> 46:05.440 without finding that, a lot of this doesn't happen. Oh, the radio. Galt's radio too. 46:05.940 --> 46:09.240 That's right. Very important. That's how he gets found. But yeah. But again, now we 46:09.740 --> 46:12.620 have another, now I have a machine gun, ho ho ho moment. So, 46:13.120 --> 46:16.962 uh, so Rambo gets the truck and he ends up, uh, He's getting 46:17.010 --> 46:20.233 away and being chased by the cop cars. And it's instantly night. 46:20.378 --> 46:23.729 It's really weird. It's sort of dusk-ish when he jumps on the truck, and the 46:24.229 --> 46:26.904 very next moment we see him, it is pitch black. Yeah. Which is an interesting 46:26.936 --> 46:30.112 transition. But yeah, it's nighttime suddenly. And, 46:30.224 --> 46:33.142 you know, he drives to like a gas station. It looks like it's maybe got 46:33.642 --> 46:35.436 like a used car lot with it too. There's a lot of cars there. 46:35.901 --> 46:39.124 And he basically just like parks the truck. And I don't know, how did the 46:39.624 --> 46:42.940 gasoline get all over the ground? Oh, so he plows the— First, 46:43.440 --> 46:47.080 as he's being pursued by these cops, he does this good move where he makes 46:47.580 --> 46:50.180 them crash. Like, they're up behind him and he's able to sideswipe them, and they 46:50.680 --> 46:54.620 hit this parked car on the side of the road, and it immediately explodes as 46:55.120 --> 46:58.180 if it was like a BMW C4 or some kind of car that's like the 46:58.680 --> 47:02.820 first car to be made only of explosives. Like, it's crazy, right? Chevy plastic. 47:03.320 --> 47:07.200 So, uh, so he takes the truck with the M60 47:07.700 --> 47:10.240 in it and he just plows over all the pumps. Oh, that's what it was. 47:10.740 --> 47:12.580 And then that just makes gas like spray up in the air. So he's got 47:13.080 --> 47:16.255 this gas geysering up in the air. Right. And then of course gets out with 47:16.303 --> 47:19.662 the machine gun, blows up the gas station. Yep. And so everything is— it's on 47:19.758 --> 47:23.116 fire and exploding, and the cars are exploding. He's making this enormous ruckus. 47:23.229 --> 47:25.960 And now Teasle, you know, first of all, they got a call back, uh, 47:26.185 --> 47:28.660 you know, the, the soldier that was thrown out of the truck did call in 47:28.676 --> 47:31.584 that like Rambo's alive, he stole a truck, like all this stuff. So that would— 47:32.084 --> 47:34.717 they know they're chasing him. So now Teasle sees, you know, he can kind of 47:35.217 --> 47:37.770 see the explosion. It seems like maybe several blocks away from the police station from 47:38.270 --> 47:40.068 where he is, but he can see it. It's like, you know, get out there, 47:40.100 --> 47:43.601 whatever. And So Rambo is now running around town with this M60 47:43.633 --> 47:46.506 in the belt-loaded— you know, it's a belt-loaded M60. He's got a lot of ammo. 47:46.828 --> 47:50.504 He's shooting all of the, like, transformers on the energy, 47:50.697 --> 47:54.839 the electricity poles, basically. So he's knocking out huge blocks of electricity 47:54.951 --> 47:58.050 as he goes. Yep. Teasle, meanwhile, has, I think, 47:58.082 --> 48:01.309 gone up to the roof of the police station to try to find where Rambo 48:01.809 --> 48:04.841 is. Yeah. To try to snipe him. And he's also gotten on kind of like 48:05.291 --> 48:08.520 the loudspeaker and announced like evacuate the streets, 48:09.020 --> 48:11.700 like everyone off the streets and stuff. And this is where I find it— this 48:12.200 --> 48:14.220 is the point in the movie where I found it very much, much harder to 48:14.720 --> 48:17.610 sympathize with John Rambo. It's like he really is terrorizing this whole town. 48:17.740 --> 48:21.040 Like, it'd be terrifying if you were just a person in this town to know 48:21.540 --> 48:24.900 that there is some crazy person running around with an M60 or with a gun, 48:25.400 --> 48:28.390 whatever, and is like knocking out power and is a threat to— it's like, 48:28.680 --> 48:31.200 regardless of what, you know, the cops did to him, which were horrible things, 48:31.700 --> 48:34.000 like, he's now at the point where he's not really a sympathetic hero. Totally. 48:34.500 --> 48:36.640 It flipped. Like, it flipped to the point where now he's doing worse things than 48:37.140 --> 48:40.640 like what was being done. There's no good guys except maybe Colonel Trautman 48:41.140 --> 48:43.446 is sort of the guy to root for at this point because he can maybe 48:43.946 --> 48:46.958 defuse things. Yeah, but he's also the one ultimately responsible for Rambo being exactly who 48:46.974 --> 48:50.374 he is. Right, right, right. Yeah, uh, although he's not 48:50.422 --> 48:53.869 being used according to the instructions, so that's not on Trautman, right? No, 48:53.885 --> 48:57.413 must be user error. Um, so, so the word gets back, 48:57.574 --> 49:00.781 you know, officially that there's no body found. They've kind of pulled 49:01.281 --> 49:04.453 everything, uh, out of the mine, and Teasle's like, all right, 49:04.469 --> 49:07.660 dude, I'm going for it, right? And before he got up on 49:08.160 --> 49:10.900 the roof, there was some good, like, Clark Griswold attic steps that got up to 49:11.400 --> 49:14.520 the roof. I like that instead of just the metal ladder. It was such a 49:15.020 --> 49:18.440 funny entrance. He's just watching old films wearing, like, 49:18.940 --> 49:21.990 lady gloves. Right. Trying to stay warm. Little, like, head towel. 49:22.320 --> 49:25.640 And the best thing is that Rambo, of course, 49:26.140 --> 49:29.060 every town you're able to get access to a gun store. Oh, yeah. And then 49:29.560 --> 49:31.660 they've got the guns that are on display. But then there's always the kind of 49:32.160 --> 49:35.220 secret stuff that's behind the fake wall or whatever. So, 49:35.720 --> 49:38.919 and he basically— in my life, I want to do this. so bad is make 49:39.419 --> 49:42.336 a trail of gunpowder and light the end of it and watch it. Like, 49:42.705 --> 49:46.074 I would love that, dude. I really— anyone with like gunpowder, uh, hit me 49:46.574 --> 49:48.961 up, mail it to me. Uh, don't do that. It's a bad idea. Don't do 49:49.461 --> 49:53.196 that. Don't, don't empower this man's weird fantasies. Uh, but he, 49:53.357 --> 49:57.126 he basically blows up the whole gun store and there's, you know, 49:57.207 --> 50:00.736 all the bullets are going off. So crazy distraction, plus destroying a 50:01.236 --> 50:04.249 lot of the excess armory if the citizens decide to come after him or whatever, 50:04.281 --> 50:07.750 right? It was mostly— he was probably more about the distraction, 50:08.250 --> 50:10.170 I think. Yeah, like he wants Teasle looking that way. I mean, that seems to 50:10.670 --> 50:13.310 be what he's doing, right? By knocking out power in certain areas, he's giving himself 50:13.810 --> 50:17.250 cover, but he's also like giving Teasle— are you trying to direct Teasle's attention? 50:17.750 --> 50:19.750 Yes. From one place to another. And that's, and that's what he's doing. And it 50:20.250 --> 50:23.410 works because he kind of hides in a corner after blowing up the ammunition, 50:23.910 --> 50:27.350 the gun store, and Teasle peeks up over, you know, the, the roof of the 50:27.850 --> 50:30.330 police station to look, and, and Rambo spots him. And now he knows for sure, 50:30.830 --> 50:31.964 okay, he's on the roof of the police station. That's where he he's at. 50:32.349 --> 50:35.683 So Rambo goes into the police station and there's this tense sort of moment where 50:35.699 --> 50:39.370 Teasle is like looking down through a skylight down into the station 50:39.870 --> 50:42.560 as Rambo's kind of coming in. Who's gonna see who first, whatever. You know, 50:42.592 --> 50:45.702 somebody, you know, like Rambo runs and Teasle shoots at him through the 50:46.202 --> 50:49.405 glass, doesn't hit him. But you know, Rambo's got this crazy M60, he just shoots 50:49.905 --> 50:52.274 through the ceiling. Yeah. And I guess shoots Teasle in the foot or leg or 50:52.774 --> 50:54.887 something, right? Like, um, yeah, it gets him all the way through the ceiling. 50:55.079 --> 50:58.542 Uh, his shooting spree is, uh, very nice here. At one point they shoot 50:59.042 --> 51:01.379 one of those like water cooler, uh, things, but it was back when they were 51:01.491 --> 51:05.172 all glass, which is a great thing to see get That was really nice. 51:06.157 --> 51:09.626 Yeah, so he's get— he's got Teasle, you know, 51:11.079 --> 51:14.979 he's in the police station. Yep. And, and Teasle falls down like through the 51:15.479 --> 51:18.329 sky. Right, through the skylight. So Rambo shoots the ceiling, basically forces Teasle to fall 51:18.829 --> 51:22.451 through the skylight, right? And Rambo's there like ready to kind of finish him off, 51:22.515 --> 51:25.568 and Teasle's like, you know, just kind of like, go ahead, like, do it, 51:25.601 --> 51:28.686 do it, do it. And then Colonel Trautman comes in. 51:28.751 --> 51:31.712 Mm-hmm. And he's able to talk to him. He's like, Hey, John, 51:32.209 --> 51:35.722 you're surrounded. You know, yeah, it's over. And John's nothing 51:35.834 --> 51:40.487 is over. And we get this like really—it's 51:40.551 --> 51:43.775 well done. It's like the character is very unhinged at this point, 51:44.080 --> 51:47.208 and this speech that like in parts makes a lot of sense, and in parts 51:47.708 --> 51:51.572 you're like, oh dude, you're looking at this wrong. Whatever. But pretty powerful. 51:51.636 --> 51:55.294 You know the way that he's talking about the difference between in the military, 51:55.470 --> 51:59.611 and I think a lot of people have this experience. I had like a 51:59.659 --> 52:03.545 purpose. I had status. Like, I was put in charge of important 52:03.593 --> 52:07.447 things. I was put in charge of expensive equipment. Here I can't even hold a 52:07.947 --> 52:11.541 job parking cars. Yeah, this world is not built for me. Like, I need to 52:12.041 --> 52:15.363 be in that world, otherwise nothing fucking makes sense. Yeah, it's a heartbreaking speech. 52:15.475 --> 52:17.964 It's well acted by Stallone. You know, he— like, we make fun of him a 52:18.028 --> 52:20.998 lot, and a lot of times he is kind of a make-fun-able actor, 52:21.015 --> 52:24.410 but there are moments where he really is is able to put a lot 52:24.910 --> 52:28.210 of emotion on screen, and, and this is one of those scenes. Um, and it 52:28.710 --> 52:31.370 really reminded me of like, uh, you know, you've seen Shawshank Redemption and they talk 52:31.870 --> 52:33.940 about guys' life, or, you know, guys who are in there for almost life, 52:34.110 --> 52:35.830 Brooks, right? And they get out and they just don't know what the fuck to 52:36.330 --> 52:39.440 do with their lives because there was structure and order and things made sense, 52:39.530 --> 52:42.590 you know, where they were, whether that's prison or the military or whatever kind of, 52:43.090 --> 52:46.250 you know, structured organization that you remember that kind of does— when you're in it, 52:46.750 --> 52:50.470 it controls everything about your life. You're required to fully buy into that structure and 52:50.970 --> 52:53.130 order in both situations. Yeah, it is what it is. And so then you lose 52:55.524 --> 52:58.995 and you join the ranks of the free, essentially, one way or another. 52:59.847 --> 53:02.402 And yeah, it's like nothing is sort of like— nothing makes sense anymore. Nothing is 53:02.595 --> 53:06.483 in the place you expect it to be. And it's heartbreaking. It's absolutely heartbreaking. 53:06.612 --> 53:10.436 And it is, you know, it is retroactively sympathizing 53:10.549 --> 53:14.630 for the character. Like, we understand now this has been essentially like a PTSD-induced 53:15.130 --> 53:18.824 psychotic break for most of the movie. 100%. And especially the very end, 53:19.065 --> 53:22.386 like when he's talking about, you know, Like, all my friends are dead. 53:22.839 --> 53:25.684 And he goes into this story about how, you know, 53:26.234 --> 53:29.127 I left my friends for a minute and this kid came up with a shoeshine 53:29.159 --> 53:32.740 box to my other friends, but the shoeshine box was wired with a bomb and 53:33.240 --> 53:35.400 there were pieces of them all over me and I was holding and just like, 53:36.088 --> 53:39.486 I honestly like Stallone really going for it. Yeah. And the whole, the whole thing 53:39.534 --> 53:42.014 though, the visual of he was begging me, he wants to go home, I want 53:42.514 --> 53:44.043 to go home. And I said, okay, I'll take you home. I just got to 53:44.543 --> 53:47.190 find your legs. I can't find your legs. And it's like, Oh my God, 53:47.690 --> 53:51.290 it's absolutely heartbreaking. So because like, no, I mean realistically, like no human 53:51.790 --> 53:53.750 is meant to ever experience that kind of— no, no, no, no, that's not something— 53:54.250 --> 53:57.610 our brains are not set up to handle that kind of terror. Yeah. Uh, 53:58.110 --> 54:00.240 and, and whatever. So yeah, so there's that. But this is sort of the end. 54:00.350 --> 54:04.370 Yeah. Uh, for Rambo in a lot of sense, you know, basically Trautman convinces, 54:04.870 --> 54:08.630 uh, Teasle to let him arrest Rambo. He's walked out of the police station 54:09.130 --> 54:12.386 in cuffs, and, and that's really how the movie ends, as, as the, the Theme 54:12.450 --> 54:15.726 starts playing, as you said, with lyrics. Yeah, but we just get that shot of 54:16.226 --> 54:20.125 Rambo walking down the walking down the street. Yeah, and you know he spared Teasle's 54:20.625 --> 54:24.252 life, but he fucked up the entire town and took out some people. But yeah, 54:24.477 --> 54:28.619 so that's the end of it, and that is first 54:28.651 --> 54:32.216 blood, man. That's the whole deal. Well, this was my choice, so I guess I'll 54:32.264 --> 54:35.620 go ahead in with my review. A couple things about 54:36.120 --> 54:39.586 this movie that are kind of interesting. So originally, and I wonder, 54:39.795 --> 54:42.991 you mentioned earlier like there are these 2 writers, these 2 main writers, 54:43.103 --> 54:46.765 and then Stallone was an additional writer. Correct. One of the changes 54:46.877 --> 54:50.057 that I've read was made from the original story is that 54:50.330 --> 54:53.493 Colonel Trautman was supposed to kill Rambo at the end of it. Oh, interesting. 54:53.541 --> 54:57.684 You know, so it is just like the creator like, like taking out his creation 54:58.038 --> 55:00.334 because of the damage that it's caused. And that would have made a lot of 55:00.350 --> 55:03.562 sense. And there was that conversation about, do you wrap your arms around him or 55:03.578 --> 55:06.830 put a bullet through his head? Yeah, and that was kind of the original 55:07.330 --> 55:10.870 plan. And I don't know if it was Stallone who decided like this IP 55:11.370 --> 55:13.890 is too good for him to get killed, or or just like I don't want 55:14.390 --> 55:17.050 that to go that way for this veteran or for this person. You know, 55:17.550 --> 55:20.630 I think it's more that Stallone doesn't get doesn't die in his movies. I mean, 55:21.130 --> 55:24.070 Stallone doesn't die in his movies. What movies he ever died in? At least at 55:24.570 --> 55:27.150 that point in his career. And like, and then like, you know, maybe maybe into 55:27.650 --> 55:29.750 the 2000s as he got older, did he allow that? I think like one of 55:30.250 --> 55:32.990 the Rocky movies he or in Creed or something, he finally does die or something 55:33.490 --> 55:34.610 like that. But like for the most part, Stallone does not get killed. It's like 55:35.110 --> 55:38.477 Schwarzenegger. Schwarzenegger doesn't get killed. Stallone thing. Yeah, that makes 55:38.977 --> 55:42.998 sense. Um, so, uh, there were kind of a couple 55:43.078 --> 55:46.748 guys, a couple real-life guys that, uh, and there's probably 55:46.845 --> 55:50.660 hundreds that claim this, that are the supposed inspiration for 55:50.772 --> 55:54.651 John Rambo. Um, 2 different ones. And watching this movie and watching 55:55.151 --> 55:57.969 the other 2, it's almost like one of the guys is First Blood Rambo. 55:58.161 --> 56:01.367 Okay. And one of the guys is the second 2 movies, uh, Rambo. Yeah. 56:01.447 --> 56:04.655 So the first guy, and like the main guy that kind Comes up when you 56:04.815 --> 56:07.835 look it up is this guy named Roy Benavides, 56:08.092 --> 56:11.689 who was a veteran, like a special forces 56:11.721 --> 56:15.463 guy. He was injured by a landmine in 1965, 56:15.575 --> 56:19.076 was like not walking, was discharged from the military and everything, told he wouldn't 56:19.092 --> 56:22.481 walk again, managed to get himself walking again, 56:22.882 --> 56:26.078 managed to recover, and like demanded to be put back in 56:26.578 --> 56:30.414 the action. So he was like holy shit back in Vietnam in like 1968 and 56:30.914 --> 56:33.305 had all these missions and all this like heroism, like won a bunch of. 56:33.562 --> 56:36.800 Awards and stuff. So that's very much like Rambo's ability to ignore 56:36.928 --> 56:40.182 pain and all that kind of stuff. Sure. There's this other guy named Bo Gritz, 56:40.839 --> 56:44.350 um, and Bo Gritz's story was that he was a Special Forces 56:44.382 --> 56:48.197 guy, a very decorated guy. Um, he actually 56:48.309 --> 56:51.660 trained, uh, the Mujahideen in Afghanistan, which is 56:52.160 --> 56:55.699 very Rambo 3. Um, but one of the things I read about him 56:55.827 --> 56:58.985 is that he was kind of involved in 56:59.033 --> 57:02.079 the nomination process in several of the medals that he 57:02.579 --> 57:04.981 received, and a lot of the medals he received were kind of— were for the 57:05.481 --> 57:08.347 same thing. So there could have been, like, one act that got him, like, 57:08.363 --> 57:11.729 a Purple Heart and a Congressional Medal of Honor or whatever. Okay. So he juiced 57:12.229 --> 57:16.763 his— juiced his numbers a little bit. Um, but he got really into the POW/MIA 57:17.263 --> 57:19.809 stuff after retirement and actually went on these, like, 57:19.889 --> 57:23.495 privately funded missions in the '80s and '70s to try 57:23.995 --> 57:27.808 to, like, do reconnaissance or bring back POWs from Vietnam. And this 57:28.308 --> 57:31.591 was funded by private cit— like, uh, Clint Eastwood, Ross Perot 57:31.735 --> 57:34.733 were mentioned as people who were, like, into this and were, like, funding his work. 57:35.117 --> 57:37.492 So I just thought that was interesting of, like, talk about the kind of Couple 57:37.524 --> 57:41.406 of real-life Rambos there. So this 57:41.906 --> 57:45.289 movie, I mean, this is right up my alley. 57:45.952 --> 57:49.103 I had a big-ass smile on my face. Like, as far as there's a lot 57:49.603 --> 57:51.785 of comedies like that don't work for me. Yeah, 57:52.270 --> 57:55.999 because movies like this to me are the true funny movies. 57:56.128 --> 57:59.970 Like the stuff that Rambo's doing, I can't help but just be like giggling. 58:00.019 --> 58:03.745 And you know, obviously there's weight to this film and the 58:04.245 --> 58:08.605 story and the background and everything. Everything, but I just get such a delight watching 58:08.621 --> 58:11.794 him get his little revenge and like the things that he sets up and stuff. 58:12.146 --> 58:14.806 I had so much fun throughout this movie. I thought it looked good. I thought 58:15.306 --> 58:18.604 the performances were good. Um, nothing distracting as far as like budget 58:18.636 --> 58:21.905 limitations that hurt the effects. Uh, I love 58:21.921 --> 58:25.110 the theme song without lyrics. Um, and, 58:25.206 --> 58:29.052 uh, wait a second, is this a zero-woman 58:29.552 --> 58:32.435 movie? I guess other than the woman he talks to at the beginning. It's kind 58:32.935 --> 58:36.335 of like an all-man movie. I mean, pretty much. Barry's— Barry's widow, 58:36.447 --> 58:40.315 Delmar Barry's widow, is, is in it, and there's maybe one other woman in town. 58:40.379 --> 58:43.990 There's a waitress, uh, that talks to Trautman and, and Teasle, but that's 58:44.490 --> 58:47.408 about it. So definitely does not pass the Bechdel test, you know, 2 women speak 58:47.456 --> 58:50.890 to each other, whatever. Certainly does not. Um, but I had a ton of 58:51.390 --> 58:54.453 fun with this, and there's a reason why they made sequels off 58:54.565 --> 58:58.016 this character, right? And it's funny how cartoony he 58:58.516 --> 59:02.418 became, because even in this movie he becomes pretty fucking cartoony. Yeah. And it 59:02.450 --> 59:06.290 just keeps going and going and going. I love First Blood. I think it's, 59:06.450 --> 59:09.985 uh, I think it's a delight. It makes me smile a lot. I'm a 4 59:10.485 --> 59:12.813 out of 4 and a half out of 5 for First Blood. Very nice. 59:12.877 --> 59:16.058 Yeah. For my part, like, not quite 59:16.251 --> 59:19.544 as ebullient as you are on it. I do think it was, it was a 59:20.044 --> 59:23.513 good watch. You know, the character, like I said, I struggled with sympathy for the 59:24.013 --> 59:27.257 main character at times. times. Um, I found the villains to 59:27.338 --> 59:30.695 be a little cartoonish. And again, this is like not really 59:30.888 --> 59:34.196 maybe fully understanding, uh, uh, the placement within media 59:34.696 --> 59:37.150 at the time of like how we treat vagrants and Vietnam vets. I mean, 59:37.182 --> 59:40.104 just, it seemed like the cops were so over the top. Awful. 59:40.168 --> 59:42.331 Yeah. You know, and it's like, all right, like I get it, you know, 59:42.364 --> 59:45.072 but also just, it kind of pulled me out a little bit. Um, and then 59:45.572 --> 59:48.194 it was like there's something structural that I, that I didn't love about the movie. 59:48.548 --> 59:52.828 The way that like Rambo, because he's 59:53.328 --> 59:54.515 He's this one-man army alone in the woods for so much of it, like doesn't 59:55.015 --> 59:58.499 say much of anything ever. And most of the conversation that occurs in the movie 59:58.515 --> 01:00:02.097 is between like Troutman and Teasle, and a lot of it's just talking about Rambo 01:00:02.145 --> 01:00:05.534 and telling us things he's done or like kind of who he is. All right, 01:00:05.582 --> 01:00:09.309 so, but you know, the action sequences are really good. That chase, that dirt bike 01:00:09.437 --> 01:00:12.328 cop car chase is really well done. Yeah, you know, a lot of the stuff 01:00:12.828 --> 01:00:14.111 near the end is good. You know, I guess that by the end I'm a 01:00:14.611 --> 01:00:17.083 little bit like, bro, like could you not just terrorize this town? The town didn't 01:00:17.583 --> 01:00:19.717 do anything to you. Like, right, go get the cops, fine, but like Jesus. 01:00:20.118 --> 01:00:23.631 Um, and I just think that in general, you know, it's a very short movie, 01:00:23.807 --> 01:00:26.406 and I think the issue I have with action movies that are really short is 01:00:26.454 --> 01:00:29.390 like I need to give a little bit more of a shit about what's going 01:00:29.502 --> 01:00:32.406 on other than just the survival. Like, I don't know, like there's an element there. 01:00:32.711 --> 01:00:35.101 I still really enjoyed it. I still think it's— it was a good movie. 01:00:35.149 --> 01:00:38.101 I would recommend it to anybody who likes '80s action movies. If you haven't seen 01:00:38.601 --> 01:00:41.630 First Blood, you absolutely should. Um, I am a 3.5 out of 5 on First 01:00:42.130 --> 01:00:45.561 Blood. I still definitely enjoyed it, just not quite like a glowing review maybe, 01:00:45.641 --> 01:00:48.978 but yeah. Yeah, that's fair. That gets us 8 out of 10, uh, altogether on 01:00:49.074 --> 01:00:52.652 First Blood. So yeah, that's, uh, that's where we landed as a 01:00:52.700 --> 01:00:56.069 duo. Excellent. Oh, one, one other thing about this movie is I don't think 01:00:56.569 --> 01:00:59.342 they say the phrase— and I don't know when this like entered popular culture— but 01:00:59.679 --> 01:01:03.385 they don't say PTSD anywhere. They don't talk about— I 01:01:03.402 --> 01:01:06.867 didn't hear flashback. No, I mean, so a lot of these things 01:01:06.883 --> 01:01:10.974 that would have made it so much easier for Trautman to explain Rambo, 01:01:10.990 --> 01:01:14.073 right, to the cops. I don't know if they weren't in the vernacular or they 01:01:14.121 --> 01:01:16.979 just chose to not talk about it. No, I think that was pre— really any 01:01:16.995 --> 01:01:20.062 kind of understanding, you know, of exactly what, what that kind of effect, 01:01:20.126 --> 01:01:23.225 you know, what that has an effect on people. So, oh man, yeah, he was 01:01:23.725 --> 01:01:27.287 just before his time in that sense. Well, shoot, we're, uh, we're on 01:01:27.787 --> 01:01:30.900 to, uh, your choice now, Steve, and we're in a free-for-all, 01:01:30.916 --> 01:01:33.855 so we can go wherever we want with this. And we're gonna do— we're gonna 01:01:34.355 --> 01:01:36.970 definitely do a little tonal whiplash here. We're not, we're not going down this road 01:01:37.146 --> 01:01:40.151 Uh, any further as far as, uh, the one-man army or anything like that. 01:01:40.601 --> 01:01:44.956 Uh, in fact, we're going to a very ensemble, um, type piece from a writer-director 01:01:45.456 --> 01:01:48.234 team that we've seen once before. I know for sure, I think just once so 01:01:48.734 --> 01:01:52.508 far, but a huge, huge, uh, pair of filmmakers, uh, for the '80s and '90s. 01:01:53.215 --> 01:01:56.589 Uh, the, the cast of this film is just outstanding with a lot of 01:01:57.089 --> 01:01:59.964 people that we've seen before, uh, and then several new folks. But some of our 01:02:00.464 --> 01:02:03.064 favorites are in this movie, including Sam Elliott, who we've talked about about in this 01:02:03.256 --> 01:02:05.997 episode is a guy that sounded like him. But Sam Elliott's in this. 01:02:06.221 --> 01:02:09.971 John Goodman is somebody you and I both love. Uh, uh, Philip Seymour Hoffman is 01:02:10.067 --> 01:02:13.480 in this. Uh, and of course stars Jeff Bridges. Uh, Steve Buscemi we've 01:02:13.980 --> 01:02:16.894 seen before. We're gonna see The Big Lebowski from the Coen Brothers. Oh, the people 01:02:17.394 --> 01:02:20.099 have spoken. This is gonna be a big one. I like it. Such a hit 01:02:20.599 --> 01:02:22.823 movie for people our age. I feel like it is just— it hit at just 01:02:23.323 --> 01:02:25.740 the right time. I think it was '96 it came out, right in high school. 01:02:26.333 --> 01:02:29.820 It's just— there's so many things that work Oh yeah. 01:02:30.320 --> 01:02:32.720 And it's gonna be a lot of fun to watch. Um, I don't know if, 01:02:33.220 --> 01:02:35.400 uh, if you've seen it recently or not, but— No, it's been a while. 01:02:35.900 --> 01:02:38.920 It's probably been 10+ years for me. All right, that's good stuff. Oh, 01:02:39.420 --> 01:02:42.400 I'm excited, man. That's a good choice. So next week, The Big Lebowski will be 01:02:42.900 --> 01:02:45.020 what we bring to you. And that's a wrap. So if you like what you 01:02:45.520 --> 01:02:48.390 hear, please consider heading over to Apple or Spotify and leaving us a 5-star review. 01:02:48.400 --> 01:02:51.220 It helps new folks find the show. Be sure to check out our website at 01:02:51.720 --> 01:02:55.051 twodads1movie.com. That's the number 2 and the number 1. There you can explore 01:02:55.099 --> 01:02:58.391 the movies we've covered, sign up for our newsletter, The Rewind, and even get sneak 01:02:58.407 --> 01:03:01.731 previews of upcoming episodes. Once again, this has been First Blood, 01:03:01.860 --> 01:03:04.843 another episode of 2 Dads 1 Movie. I'm Steve. And I'm Nic. 01:03:04.989 --> 01:03:07.307 Thank you so much for listening, and we'll catch you next week. Thanks,