WEBVTT 00:00.273 --> 00:02.896 That's why she always outsmarted the killer in the big chase scene at the end. 00:03.330 --> 00:06.275 Only virgins can do that. Don't you know the rules? What rules? 00:07.112 --> 00:10.648 You don't— 00:10.728 --> 00:14.168 Jesus Christ, you don't know the rules? Have an aneurysm, 00:14.185 --> 00:17.525 why don't you? There are certain rules that one must abide 00:17.574 --> 00:21.216 by in order to successfully survive a horror movie. For instance, 00:21.702 --> 00:25.212 number 1, you can never have sex. No, 00:26.093 --> 00:29.490 no, no! Big no-no! Big no-no! I'm a dead man. 00:29.555 --> 00:32.987 Sex equals death. Okay, number 2, 00:33.329 --> 00:35.182 you can never drink or do drugs. 00:38.200 --> 00:41.954 No, the sin factor. It's a sin. It's an extension 00:42.003 --> 00:45.091 of number 1. And number 3, never, ever, 00:45.380 --> 00:48.980 ever under any circumstances say, I'll be right back, because you won't be back. 00:49.172 --> 00:52.306 I'm getting another beer. You want one? Yeah, sure. I'll be 00:52.806 --> 00:56.666 right back. You see, 00:56.749 --> 00:59.450 you push the laws and you end up dead. Okay, I'll see you in the 00:59.950 --> 01:00.244 kitchen with a knife. 01:05.452 --> 01:09.801 It's 2 Dads 1 Movie Shocktoberfest, 01:09.898 --> 01:13.197 a celebration of the spookiest movies of the '80s and 01:13.697 --> 01:17.513 '90s. Now here are your hosts, Scary Steve Paulo 01:17.805 --> 01:22.048 and Nightmare Nic Briana. Hello everybody, 01:22.080 --> 01:25.260 welcome to another episode of 2 Dads 1 Movie. I'm Steve. And I'm Nic. 01:25.389 --> 01:27.875 And today we are wrapping up Shocktoberfest II. 01:28.233 --> 01:32.104 Electric Boogaloo with the 1996 Wes Craven meta 01:32.604 --> 01:36.329 slasher Scream. And this is one of my picks. I brought this 01:36.829 --> 01:39.285 one to the table and I'll be honest, like, this is one of my— one 01:39.333 --> 01:41.742 of the movies I point out to where I say like, oh, this is like 01:42.048 --> 01:45.148 maybe the best movie that is a kind of a parody or at least is 01:46.385 --> 01:50.112 poking fun at its genre while also being like a 01:50.224 --> 01:53.839 crazy good example of the genre. Yeah, yeah. Right. It can be kind of 01:54.339 --> 01:56.247 like, oh, we're going to be super like you know, 01:56.809 --> 02:00.402 referencing slasher movies and we're going to be very meta about the rules 02:00.434 --> 02:03.160 of a slasher movie or whatever. And then we're also going to make it like 02:03.660 --> 02:06.802 a fantastic fucking slasher movie. Yeah, for sure. For my part, 02:07.395 --> 02:10.812 I think I first saw this probably not until college and like I saw it 02:10.844 --> 02:14.148 like once and then kind of forgot about it. I can't remember if I saw 02:14.648 --> 02:17.051 it in college. I know about 10 years ago my wife was like, we were 02:17.551 --> 02:20.323 talking about it and Heather like suggested we watch it or that I watch it 02:20.823 --> 02:23.920 or something. I don't even remember exactly. It just was a thing that You know, 02:24.420 --> 02:26.580 she had actually liked, and I was like so much more into horror movies in 02:26.640 --> 02:29.200 general that I was like surprised that she liked it. So I like went back 02:29.700 --> 02:31.760 and watched it, and I realized like I don't know that I'd ever seen it 02:32.260 --> 02:33.580 all the way through. Like you know this kind of thing where it's like I 02:34.080 --> 02:37.740 remember seeing Scream 2 for some reason, and like owning the Scream 2 soundtrack. 02:38.240 --> 02:40.760 I feel like that was like a really dynamite. Like you know the '90s had 02:41.260 --> 02:43.160 so many great soundtracks, and I feel like Scream 2 was one of them. 02:43.660 --> 02:47.020 What an efficient way to get your singles. Like rather than having to buy individual 02:47.520 --> 02:50.040 albums, get a soundtrack, get like four bangers. Plus I think like there was a 02:50.540 --> 02:53.580 Dave Matthews Band song that wasn't on one of their albums. Oh very good. 02:54.080 --> 02:56.955 That was that was my jam back in the late '90s. So, um, what about 02:57.455 --> 03:00.114 you, Nic? What's your history with Scream? So I think that I saw this, 03:00.386 --> 03:03.497 uh, when it came out in the theater. Yeah. Um, 03:04.155 --> 03:07.378 but then not since then. Okay. Because when I was rewatching this, I was like, 03:07.538 --> 03:10.569 there's certain beats and certain things that I remembered from it, right? Right. 03:10.649 --> 03:13.776 And I remembered, you know, a couple of the characters and the actors that 03:14.276 --> 03:16.679 were in it. But yeah, I didn't know. And I had this period in my 03:17.179 --> 03:20.736 life where I wasn't really into horror for like a long stretch. Honestly, 03:21.073 --> 03:24.472 I've gotten way more into it since we've started doing the podcast. Like when 03:24.972 --> 03:28.288 we did Shocktoberfest last year and got to get exposed to The Thing and 03:28.788 --> 03:31.607 watch the first Nightmare on Elm Street again and stuff. And like, I'm much more 03:31.735 --> 03:34.396 into this kind of movie now. So this is a great time for me to 03:34.896 --> 03:39.238 rewatch Scream. But yeah, I just remember this was like a big-ass deal when 03:39.270 --> 03:42.781 we were young, and then it spawned so many Scream sequels. And then in addition 03:42.813 --> 03:45.907 to that spawned Scary Movie. Right. Which spawned all these 03:45.939 --> 03:49.385 sequels. And my wife and I actually did watch Scary 03:49.885 --> 03:50.668 Movie 2 the other night. 03:52.670 --> 03:55.960 It's fine. Did that hold up? I don't know as much as those hold 03:56.460 --> 04:00.000 up, right? Right, right, right. I feel like if it's not Mel Brooks or like 04:00.500 --> 04:03.180 the ZAZ guys' parodies, I know the Wayans had some good ones, but the parodies 04:03.680 --> 04:06.800 a lot of times kind of fall flat when you're 10, 15, 20 years removed 04:07.300 --> 04:09.820 from what they're referencing. You know, it can be a little rough for sure. 04:10.320 --> 04:13.780 And the Scary Movie and those like Epic Movie and Disaster Movie and the things, 04:14.280 --> 04:17.040 those make like 15% of a funny movie and then a bunch of garbage. 04:17.540 --> 04:21.040 So if you like that 15%, it's definitely for you. I remember watching Not 04:21.540 --> 04:22.640 Another Teen Movie. I don't know if you've ever— and, and I loved all the 04:23.140 --> 04:27.103 movies that it was parodying. Uh, and when they referred 04:27.135 --> 04:30.788 to the, the lunchroom at the high school as the Anthony Michael Dining 04:30.900 --> 04:34.489 Hall, I felt like that joke— I— the movie's 04:34.989 --> 04:38.270 good from that. Like, anything the movie does that's bad is made up for by 04:38.414 --> 04:41.778 Anthony Michael Dining Hall, which is like the best pun I've ever 04:42.278 --> 04:45.479 heard in my life. So I saw that movie well before I saw a 04:45.559 --> 04:48.779 lot of those. And now, like, since I have a teenage daughter, my wife wants 04:48.827 --> 04:51.246 to show her these things. So she's watching 10 Things I Hate About You, 04:51.310 --> 04:54.306 and I'm like, oh, he's doing the Jamie's Got a Gun thing from, uh, 04:54.675 --> 04:57.961 Not Another See, I was way into She's All That 04:58.461 --> 05:01.808 and not all those movies. I missed all that stuff. I never— yeah, so, 05:01.888 --> 05:05.254 uh, it's good to get reintroduced. But anyway, Scream, this is like— this 05:05.754 --> 05:09.198 is Shocktoberfest. Classic, influential, and, uh, yeah, I'm great— 05:09.599 --> 05:12.997 very psyched that we're talking about this today. Very cool. All right, let's jump into 05:13.045 --> 05:16.267 the facts on the movie Scream. Uh, Scream was released on December 05:16.767 --> 05:20.323 20th, 1996 with an R rating, and apparently Craven 05:20.823 --> 05:23.545 had to cut a lot from the first scene and the climax in order to 05:24.045 --> 05:27.184 get that R. The MPAA kept coming back with NC-17 ratings on the 05:27.684 --> 05:31.319 this movie. It has a running time of 112 minutes, was directed by the late, 05:31.400 --> 05:34.990 the great Wes Craven and written by Kevin Williamson. It stars, 05:35.343 --> 05:38.741 I mean, it stars almost everybody that you saw on 05:38.854 --> 05:42.637 either like a Teen Beat or like Maxim magazine. It feels like at this era. 05:42.845 --> 05:45.923 Right. But Neve Campbell, Skeet Ulrich, and Courteney Cox kind of take 05:46.308 --> 05:49.754 the lead-ish parts of a very ensemble film. 05:49.898 --> 05:53.794 Yeah. Scores, we got a 78% from Rotten Tomatoes, very respectable. 05:54.178 --> 05:57.817 A 7.5 from IMDb, very respectable. And then from the 05:57.833 --> 06:00.975 homie Siskel and Ebert, of course, This is like, I could have guessed this just 06:01.475 --> 06:03.123 without, before even looking it up. But Roger Ebert gave it a thumbs up. 06:03.284 --> 06:06.313 Gene Siskel gave it a thumbs down. Why are we surprised? We're not surprised. 06:06.409 --> 06:10.176 Siskel's a putz. On the awards tip, you know, this was not like an 06:10.257 --> 06:13.527 Oscar winner. This was not like a BAFTA darling. Didn't make any of 06:13.559 --> 06:17.679 the festival circuits. Right. But it had its celebrants and its plaudits. 06:17.727 --> 06:20.981 And so at the 1997 Saturn 06:21.013 --> 06:24.732 Awards, one of our favorites here on the show. Oh yeah. It won for best 06:24.780 --> 06:28.547 horror film. Neve Campbell won for best actress. Kevin Williamson won for best 06:29.047 --> 06:32.987 writer. It was also nominated Let's see, Skeet Ulrich for Best Supporting Actor, 06:33.100 --> 06:36.049 Drew Barrymore for Best Supporting Actress, and Wes Craven for Best Director, all nominated, 06:36.482 --> 06:39.832 did not win. It also was a winner at the 06:40.332 --> 06:43.583 MTV Movie Awards in 1997, Movie of the Year, Best Movie. Oh, right up the 06:43.599 --> 06:47.270 alley of the MTV Movie Awards. Absolutely right. And then nominated but not winning 06:47.302 --> 06:50.973 that year was Best Female Performance, Neve Campbell for that. And then at the Fangoria 06:51.473 --> 06:53.955 Chainsaw Award, it won 4 out of 5 of its nominations. 06:55.317 --> 06:58.395 Skeet Ulrich, again nominated for Best Supporting Actor, did not win, poor guy. 06:58.844 --> 07:02.435 But then at the Chainsaw Awards, it won Best Wide Release Film, 07:02.451 --> 07:06.365 Best Actress for Neve Campbell, Best Supporting Actress for Drew Barrymore, and Best Screenplay for 07:06.381 --> 07:09.332 Kevin Williamson. So lots of activity in the whole horror, 07:09.413 --> 07:13.086 fantasy, sci-fi era, you know, sort of of the awards shows. 07:13.664 --> 07:16.872 Uh, let's see, budget. So this is where Wes Craven comes in, 07:16.888 --> 07:20.064 right? I mean, this guy just does a ridiculous amount with very 07:20.080 --> 07:23.770 little. On a $14 million budget, which like the amount of fake 07:23.786 --> 07:26.978 blood in the climax alone like had to cost— like that's, if you know, 07:27.058 --> 07:29.127 that just had to cost a ton of money. Corn syrup. Yeah. Oh my God. 07:29.304 --> 07:32.817 Uh, on a $14 million budget, it pulled in $173 million 07:32.849 --> 07:35.916 in the box office. Jeez. 12.3 times what it cost. 07:36.446 --> 07:38.952 Uh, and again, for a very hard R that had to be cut down from 07:39.452 --> 07:42.710 NC-17. But, you know, and, and apparently a Christmas release. Like, this wasn't like a 07:43.210 --> 07:46.437 Halloween, you know, type release or whatever. It also wasn't like a Feb— I could 07:46.937 --> 07:49.071 see this being a February thing too. I feel like horror movies do well around 07:49.571 --> 07:53.216 Valentine's Day. Yeah, they're often good date movies. But no, like, Christmas is 07:53.312 --> 07:55.577 kind of a funky place for this one to show up. And this was a 07:55.641 --> 07:59.159 word-of-mouth movie for sure. Like, this was probably not a huge 07:59.336 --> 08:02.885 opening weekend kind of thing because, like, as much as these actors 08:03.385 --> 08:05.838 are all known to us now, right? At the time it wasn't like, oh shit, 08:05.870 --> 08:09.786 the new Lillard joint's about to drop. Like, people weren't all excited. So this 08:10.286 --> 08:13.895 is like Wes Craven creating something, Kevin Williamson, that people loved over time 08:14.395 --> 08:17.169 and like grew and grew as it was in the theater. So fucking awesome to 08:17.669 --> 08:20.620 see that, man. What a— I need him to do some investing for me. 08:20.701 --> 08:24.488 Yeah, for sure. Uh, all right, let's jump into Scream. 08:24.553 --> 08:27.827 So we start with not technically a cold open because we do get the title 08:27.843 --> 08:31.037 card right away, but it's this like opening sequence that's like— that 08:31.117 --> 08:34.390 acts very much like a teaser or a cold open kind of thing. We have 08:34.890 --> 08:37.380 Drew Barrymore playing a character named Casey. She's at home. 08:38.170 --> 08:40.330 First thing I always love about watching movies like this is you go, oh, 08:40.830 --> 08:43.090 look at all these landlines. Everybody's got a house phone and like whatever, which is 08:43.590 --> 08:48.030 not the thing. And she's doing the Jiffy Pop, the old stovetop. So cinema-friendly. 08:48.530 --> 08:52.030 Jiffy Pop is just unbelievable. It's like putting a timer in the bottom of 08:52.530 --> 08:55.590 the screen. It's amazing. And it starts, you know, eventually it's gonna smoke and burn, 08:56.090 --> 08:58.510 right? It wouldn't do that in the microwave. But real quick, I just wanna say 08:59.010 --> 09:00.850 like, as we get started here and Casey's gonna get a phone call in a 09:01.350 --> 09:04.361 moment, I wanna point out something that I read, which is that Barrymore was originally 09:04.698 --> 09:07.278 attached in this to play Sidney, to play the Neve Campbell character. 09:08.079 --> 09:11.140 And apparently it was her idea. I'm not 100% sure about 09:11.640 --> 09:14.121 this. I couldn't like verify this, but it sounded like it was her idea that 09:14.169 --> 09:17.502 she play Casey instead. Because she said, 09:17.614 --> 09:21.540 if the most recognizable face in the cast dies in the first 5 09:22.040 --> 09:24.986 or 10 minutes or whatever, the audience is not gonna know what to think, 09:25.050 --> 09:27.790 who to trust. Yeah. Like what could happen. It's a very like, you know, 09:27.870 --> 09:30.995 precursor. I feel like George R.R. Martin and Game of Thrones, whatever, like, you know, 09:31.059 --> 09:34.488 they took the cue here where it's like, you know, let there be somebody you 09:34.505 --> 09:36.950 think is like, The guy who's gonna be around a while. Oh no, cut his 09:37.450 --> 09:40.170 head off. You know, it's like kind of thing. And so that apparently was Barrymore's 09:40.670 --> 09:43.010 idea, and and I think it works great because she really is by far the 09:43.510 --> 09:47.270 most famous person in movies at this time. One hundred percent. 09:47.770 --> 09:49.710 Courtney Cox obviously had the Friends thing going on and everything, but like she was 09:50.210 --> 09:53.650 not known for movies at this time. And Barrymore's face, like the 09:54.150 --> 09:57.110 trailer for this, it's like it starts with her. She's like the thing that's presenting 09:57.610 --> 10:00.870 the phone and everything. Yeah. So I love that. I wonder if that trickled down, 10:01.370 --> 10:04.730 that advice trickled down to Steven Seagal with executive decision. He was like, 10:05.230 --> 10:08.510 "Yeah, if the biggest star in the motherfucking movie gets killed." First five minutes. 10:09.010 --> 10:12.550 I mean, why do I think I just I just 10:13.050 --> 10:16.250 maybe maybe I'll give it to him. Maybe Steven Seagal 10:16.750 --> 10:20.190 was that yeah altruistic. I think sure yeah no he seems like 10:20.690 --> 10:24.630 notoriously generous guy that everyone loves to work with. I think so. I think so. 10:25.310 --> 10:28.670 Okay, so how does this this scene start 10:29.170 --> 10:31.430 off here? Right, so Casey gets a phone call and it's this kind of funny 10:31.930 --> 10:33.610 sounding voice. You know, it's like I you know you can kind of tell listening 10:34.110 --> 10:36.090 back to it's like what it does sound sort of like a voice modulation of 10:36.590 --> 10:39.390 some kind like hey how's it going? You like scary movies? You know. This stuff. 10:39.890 --> 10:43.120 And she's just kind of playing along at first. Yeah. Um, but then the, 10:43.290 --> 10:45.650 the, the caller, you know, they're talking about your favorite scary movie. She says, 10:46.150 --> 10:49.130 well, my favorite scary movie is Halloween. Uh, you know, the guy with the mask, 10:49.630 --> 10:51.950 whatever. And then he says, have you seen Nightmare on Elm Street? And she's like, 10:52.450 --> 10:54.410 yeah, the first one was scary, but the rest of them sucked. Which is a 10:54.910 --> 10:57.830 great little line because Wes Craven only did the first one. Yeah. Uh, and then 10:58.330 --> 11:01.110 he says something about being able to see her. I want to know, 11:01.610 --> 11:04.490 what's your name? I want to know who I'm looking at. And she's like, 11:04.990 --> 11:07.370 you mean talking to? And he's like, no. And he calls her Blondie. And that's 11:07.870 --> 11:10.454 kind of what sets her off realizing Right, because she's in this whole thing. 11:10.566 --> 11:14.176 So all this movie was filmed up in like Sonoma and Marin County. Yeah, 11:14.416 --> 11:17.705 like like Santa Rosa kind of area. Definitely looks that way. Yeah, and so it's 11:18.205 --> 11:20.833 like a lot of really remote homes, you know, really nice, but they're kind of 11:21.333 --> 11:24.892 like out in the middle of nowhere. And so she's you know, and and of 11:24.924 --> 11:27.957 course it's this gorgeous big house. So like the entire ground floor feels 11:28.457 --> 11:31.085 like it's windows. It's a huge patio door and like big front windows, all this 11:31.585 --> 11:34.823 stuff. So now she's worried somebody's actually looking into her house and looking for. 11:35.898 --> 11:38.964 And, uh, and yeah, then, and then she— so he says, uh, tell me your 11:39.464 --> 11:41.693 name. That's right. I want to know who I'm looking at. Yeah. And that kind 11:42.193 --> 11:45.288 of freaks her out. And, you know, there's a couple times where she'll say like, 11:45.609 --> 11:48.995 forget this, like, I'm hanging up, or you're silly. And then, you know, gets the 11:49.495 --> 11:51.965 callback and it gets like more and more intense. And they do such a great 11:52.465 --> 11:55.512 job of like building that. Yeah. Uh, another interesting thing, I can't remember the name 11:56.012 --> 11:57.823 of the actor, but the actor who does the voice on the phone is, 11:57.903 --> 12:01.579 is never either of the people that ended up— okay, right, at the end it's 12:02.079 --> 12:05.685 a different actor who was never seen on set. So, and when Craven did 12:06.185 --> 12:10.222 these phone calls, the phone calls were done live. So the actors responding 12:10.319 --> 12:13.749 to the phone calls from, quote, the killer do not know what the person 12:13.845 --> 12:16.491 looks like who's on the phone. They have not heard, they have not read the 12:16.991 --> 12:19.777 lines or heard the, like, it's all new in the moment. Oh, interesting. So they're 12:20.277 --> 12:23.224 reacting a little more naturally to like this thing. And it was something about Wes 12:23.724 --> 12:26.077 Craven was like, I didn't want them to get to know that actor and get 12:26.109 --> 12:29.973 to know him as himself. I just wanted them to understand that his voice 12:30.473 --> 12:33.295 meant danger, you know, whatever. This is a very cool little thing. 12:33.969 --> 12:36.762 Yeah. But basically she starts saying the line, my wife's favorite line in this thing, 12:36.778 --> 12:40.420 which is, I have a boyfriend, he's big, he plays football, and he's gonna fuck 12:40.468 --> 12:43.116 you up or kick your ass, whatever she says, something like that. And, and he's 12:43.616 --> 12:46.245 like, oh really? Like, you know, you should turn on the patio light. And sure 12:46.745 --> 12:49.936 enough, there's this, you know, classic high school jock. He's got the letterman 12:50.436 --> 12:53.643 jacket on, whatever, but he's duct taped his mouth. He's already bleeding and he's already 12:54.143 --> 12:56.163 been— looks like he's been roughed up and he's like strapped to a chair. 12:57.014 --> 13:00.596 in her back— you know, in her backyard. There's a moment here 13:00.612 --> 13:03.905 where he gets attacked, right? She turns— she's told to 13:04.405 --> 13:07.342 turn the light back off, right? And he pleads with her not to, kind of 13:07.438 --> 13:10.426 through the gag or through the thing. And then we don't see— like, in the 13:10.926 --> 13:14.859 version I watched, I remember seeing a version of this movie where we see 13:15.807 --> 13:18.810 a knife go through Steve's gut and, like, his guts spill out. Yeah. And I 13:18.859 --> 13:21.364 feel like that I must have at some point in my life watched a director's 13:21.864 --> 13:24.625 cut of this, like an unrated version, because that's the kind of thing that Craven 13:25.125 --> 13:28.073 had to do to dial back in order to get the R rating instead of 13:28.573 --> 13:31.377 the NC-17. 'Cause basically Steve gets gutted, and there is a moment a little bit 13:31.877 --> 13:34.328 in just a few minutes where she'll run past him and we do see some 13:34.828 --> 13:37.856 entrails or whatever. But like, I remember watching a version of this where it's like, 13:37.872 --> 13:42.170 right across the middle. It's gruesome. I mean, and then, you know, using teenagers 13:42.282 --> 13:46.115 and stuff, it makes it so much more intense and fucking crazy. So she's 13:46.615 --> 13:50.349 being asked by the person on the phone like trivia questions 13:50.381 --> 13:54.134 about scary movies. 'Cause at first in the conversation, it's like 13:54.214 --> 13:57.540 a little bit, Flirty. It's a little bit familiar, and she thinks, 13:57.680 --> 14:00.240 "Oh, maybe it's someone I know just messing with me, or it's my boyfriend or 14:00.740 --> 14:04.220 whatever." Yep. So he's asking her like, "Oh, we're gonna do some trivia on scary 14:04.720 --> 14:08.240 movies. Play a game. What's your scary favorite scary movie?" She says 14:08.740 --> 14:11.660 Halloween. Right. Right. So he asks, "Who's the killer in Halloween?" That's right. Yeah. 14:12.160 --> 14:15.700 So he's asking these trivia questions. The second question is, "Who's the killer 14:16.200 --> 14:19.940 in Friday the 13th?" Love that trick question. She's like, "Jason. Jason. 14:20.440 --> 14:23.640 It's Jason." He's like, "Wrong." Right. And it turns out, like if you've seen the 14:24.140 --> 14:25.060 first Friday the 13th, it's Jason's mother who's doing the killings in that one. 14:26.932 --> 14:30.368 before Amalavorty rises from the fucking lake or whatever. 14:30.929 --> 14:34.172 Um, so yeah, so that is what triggers them to 14:34.221 --> 14:37.576 like, well, Steve's fucked. Yep. Like, you got that question wrong. 14:37.656 --> 14:40.594 You got it wrong. And then, and then the, the killer kind of busts through 14:40.964 --> 14:44.062 into the house, and then Casey's trying to run. She is able to like run 14:44.110 --> 14:47.161 around and kind of avoid for the most part, and then gets outside. And it's 14:47.661 --> 14:50.339 kind of interesting, she like— the, now the popcorn is like burning, so it's filling 14:50.372 --> 14:54.070 the house with smoke. She keeps peeking back into the house and sees 14:54.570 --> 14:57.050 the killer, like, running around and looking for her or whatever. So she kind of 14:57.550 --> 14:59.590 feels like, maybe I can get away. And then a car starts coming up the 15:00.090 --> 15:02.710 road, and she recognizes the car. It's like her parents' car. You know, we don't 15:03.210 --> 15:05.230 know that right away, but, like, she recognizes the car. She starts running towards it. 15:05.730 --> 15:07.950 Well, that's when she's getting— now I think the killer comes through the window. 15:08.450 --> 15:10.890 She bursts through the window. Right, yeah. Oh, man. And is just chasing her down 15:11.390 --> 15:14.180 and, like, ends up, you know, she's on the phone still. 15:14.350 --> 15:16.990 So it's like the phone call hasn't ended, or at least her end, you know, 15:17.490 --> 15:20.910 isn't hung up. And so then she gets stabbed, like, tackled and 15:21.410 --> 15:23.290 stabbed, and the killer, like, starts dragging her off, but she's still got the phone. 15:23.340 --> 15:26.840 So then her parents get home, they see like the broken back door where 15:27.340 --> 15:30.000 the guy busted in, the smoke in the house, the popcorn, like whatever. And they're 15:30.500 --> 15:33.520 like, where's Casey? And so the mom like picks up the phone to dial 911 15:34.020 --> 15:36.520 and she can hear, since the receiver on, you know, on their end is on, 15:36.840 --> 15:40.320 her like moaning and kind of trying to space say something. It's very 15:40.820 --> 15:44.200 terrifying. Very Fugitive coded. Oh my gosh, so bad. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 15:44.700 --> 15:47.940 And the most horrifying thing about this scene is like when she 15:48.440 --> 15:50.960 first gets stabbed, she gets stabbed through the lung. Oh yeah. Or we're meant to 15:51.460 --> 15:54.187 believe, right? Because she sees her parents and you see her doing the, Right, 15:54.203 --> 15:57.041 like, cannot— it's like that feeling when you're having a dream where you're trying to 15:57.090 --> 16:00.537 scream and you can't get any sound out. Like, so viscerally, like, 16:01.018 --> 16:04.289 that works so well. Yeah. And again, to your point about Drew 16:04.305 --> 16:08.089 Barrymore doesn't want to be, uh, or, or wanted to be killed, like, 16:08.138 --> 16:11.152 at the beginning you're like, okay, well, she's kind of getting away, or she's not, 16:11.216 --> 16:14.487 right? Like, so there's a ton of tension in this scene. Yeah. And for me 16:14.987 --> 16:17.999 in particular, because my sleep paralysis demon looks exactly like Drew Barrymore, 16:18.015 --> 16:21.430 it was very triggering, uh, for that moment. But yeah. Um, 16:21.930 --> 16:23.530 so yeah, so basically, you know, her parents get home and then, and then they 16:24.030 --> 16:26.790 bust out, back out to go like get the cops or do whatever, like go 16:27.290 --> 16:29.330 to the neighbors or something like that, like the Dazas. And that's when they see 16:29.830 --> 16:32.810 her like hanging from a tree having been disemboweled. Yeah. 16:33.310 --> 16:36.950 Uh, completely. And so— Killers make quick work of stringing people up. That's one thing 16:37.450 --> 16:40.840 that— it's like digging holes and stringing people up. 16:41.190 --> 16:44.270 Hannibal Lecter stringing those guards up, you know, when he's in his like 16:44.770 --> 16:47.770 cage within a cage thing. 2 minutes. Like, how long does that— like, you already 16:48.270 --> 16:50.810 have the ropes made? That was artistic too, because he had the guy splayed open. 16:51.310 --> 16:54.790 Like, this is at least a little messier. swing there, like, before it showed that 16:55.290 --> 16:58.770 there was a swing set. But yeah, um, absolutely incredible way to start 16:59.270 --> 17:01.230 this movie. So yeah, and that's how— that's how we kick it off, that whole 17:01.730 --> 17:03.730 opening sequence. Like I said, it's not technically a cold open, but it really plays 17:04.230 --> 17:07.430 like one, right? Because this is just setting the tone, setting the storyline. We now 17:07.930 --> 17:11.670 have a situation where 2, you know, again, teenagers— Andrew Barrymore was like 17:12.170 --> 17:14.630 21, I think, when she made this movie. Almost everybody else that plays a teenager 17:15.130 --> 17:17.190 in this movie was old enough to like rent a car. Like, these are not— 17:17.690 --> 17:21.430 no, not real Beverly Hills 90210 style teenagers. I think Lillard, 17:21.930 --> 17:25.063 Ulrich, and Kennedy were all like 26 or something when This movie was made. 17:25.961 --> 17:29.923 Um, but yeah. Oh, and, uh, the other thing is that the, the smoke 17:30.423 --> 17:33.356 alarm is not going off until the parents are already there, even though the kitchen 17:33.856 --> 17:35.730 is filled with smoke. This is why you should never have a large house. 17:35.922 --> 17:38.922 Always have a small house so that when it catches on fire, the smoke alarm 17:38.970 --> 17:42.178 gets it, uh, sooner. It's very important. It's very important. Yeah. So, 17:42.643 --> 17:45.723 uh, and then there's also like— yeah. So this is like 15 minutes, 17:45.771 --> 17:49.155 13 minutes, I think. Great scene though, to like kick us 17:49.655 --> 17:52.699 off. Yeah. And then we flash to— we're at school. Well, no, no. 17:52.764 --> 17:55.986 First it's, uh, uh, at— we, we see Neve Campbell playing Sidney. 17:56.194 --> 17:58.631 Oh, she's in her bedroom. That's right. At night. It's like the same night, 17:58.695 --> 18:01.756 basically. Uh, and later that night, and she's in her room, she's wearing like, 18:01.821 --> 18:05.043 you know, this little like night shirt, nightgown thing, 18:05.091 --> 18:08.056 whatever. But she's like getting ready for bed, and there's like a knock at her 18:08.556 --> 18:11.904 window, and she opens her window, and it's her boyfriend Billy, played by Skeet 18:12.404 --> 18:14.869 Ulrich. And he's like sneaking in through her window and kind of like, you know, 18:15.126 --> 18:18.428 it's this standard, uh, more '80s but also '90s sort of thing of like the 18:18.928 --> 18:22.211 boyfriend sneaks in, do you want to bang? No, you don't. I won't pressure you. 18:22.339 --> 18:26.390 How about some over-the-top Like, it's all this kind of negotiation that 18:26.890 --> 18:29.590 teenagers sort of get into, and like, how far can you go? My favorite version 18:30.090 --> 18:33.450 of this ever is, um, in High Fidelity, John Cusack is talking about 18:33.950 --> 18:36.410 when he was a teenager, his character was a teenager dating this girl in high 18:36.910 --> 18:39.990 school, and he would try to touch her chest over her clothes, and she would 18:40.490 --> 18:42.990 push him away. So he would reach between her legs, and he said it was 18:43.490 --> 18:46.010 like, it was like getting turned down for, you know, it was like asking to 18:46.510 --> 18:49.390 borrow $10, getting turned down, and asking for $1,000 instead, you know? And it's like, 18:49.890 --> 18:51.710 I've always thought that was kind of a funny way to put it. Um, 18:52.210 --> 18:55.620 her boy— and Skeet Ulrich's shithead boyfriend here, right? Oh yeah. Very. And we don't 18:55.668 --> 18:59.588 know anything about Sidney's backstory yet at this point, but still he's just being like, 19:00.520 --> 19:04.409 hey, you know, our relationship reminds me of the TV-edited version of 19:04.457 --> 19:07.445 The Exorcist. Yeah, we're basically saying like, 19:07.590 --> 19:10.900 hey, we don't do anything graphic enough to not be shown on TV, you dumb 19:11.400 --> 19:14.660 bitch. Like, he's so— He also mentions like, we started hot and 19:15.160 --> 19:17.969 heavy, right? Gee, I wonder what happened. And as we do learn Sidney's sort of 19:18.469 --> 19:21.760 story here, it's like, you fucking asshole. Seriously, first of all, until we really 19:22.260 --> 19:25.240 know he knows exactly what happened, even knowing what everybody knows about what happened, 19:25.272 --> 19:28.222 you know? It's like, that's shitty. So he's, he's putting the pressure on her, 19:28.238 --> 19:31.205 but she's like, not like, okay, see you tomorrow. Yeah, 19:31.269 --> 19:34.813 yeah, we're all done. Uh, great '90s moment here. Uh, 19:35.294 --> 19:39.143 not great in terms of actually good, but very '90s is this fucking slow 19:39.643 --> 19:42.944 cover of Don't Fear the Reaper. This is such like a this era thing. 19:43.216 --> 19:46.808 And actually, this is very much a Ryan Murphy thing. Like, all his TV shows, 19:46.840 --> 19:50.335 like the American Horror Story, I feel like there'd be some slowed-down 19:50.688 --> 19:54.118 version of a song that's like not that good, you know? But if you put 19:54.618 --> 19:58.046 it in like this emotional, like singer-songwriter vein, it sounds like— It's 19:58.546 --> 20:02.310 also sort of the way Bridgerton did like all modern songs in like 20:02.406 --> 20:06.317 Victorian instrumentation or whatever, but it's all like, you know, Nicki Minaj 20:06.817 --> 20:09.972 or like Beyoncé, but it's like played with like a, a, you know, a string 20:10.165 --> 20:13.290 orchestra or whatever. Like, yeah, right. Um, but yeah, so the other thing we get 20:13.790 --> 20:15.839 in this scene that we just want to mention is that, uh, Sidney's dad comes 20:16.339 --> 20:18.532 to the door. Oh, I thought I heard screaming or whatever, you know. Um, 20:18.805 --> 20:22.390 and, and So, and we— it establishes that he's going away for work. 20:22.890 --> 20:24.750 Like, he's going to bed, and then in the morning he'll be up and gone 20:25.250 --> 20:27.010 before she gets up in the morning. Basically, he has to like travel somewhere for 20:27.510 --> 20:29.570 work and he's gonna be gone for the weekend. So this is somewhere to get 20:30.070 --> 20:33.670 paid a shitload of money based on her house. Unbelievable. Really, all these 20:34.170 --> 20:37.770 homes, every house in this movie is just stunning. And it's crazy, except for 20:38.270 --> 20:40.290 Stu's at the end, which looks like a fucking haunted house. But like, you know, 20:40.790 --> 20:44.290 that looks like the Clopex place. But like, uh, yes, yes, totally. But yeah, 20:44.790 --> 20:47.800 so, so then, uh, Yeah, so then we cut to like, so Dad's 20:48.300 --> 20:50.995 gonna go, we're just establishing all these bits, right? Billy's the boyfriend, he wants to 20:51.011 --> 20:54.560 bang, she's not prepared to do that. Dad is gonna be gone for the weekend. 20:54.608 --> 20:57.530 We figure this is like a Thursday night, Friday's tomorrow, and then the weekend, 20:57.578 --> 21:00.934 right? Dad's not gonna be around. Very important. So then we cut to the 21:01.434 --> 21:05.607 morning, uh, it's— we're back at school. There's news vans everywhere because 2 teenagers 21:06.107 --> 21:09.380 who go to this school, Woodsboro High, Woodsboro being the fictional town that 21:09.880 --> 21:13.570 we're sort of like dealing with here, Uh, they're dead and, and gruesomely, 21:14.070 --> 21:17.210 right? These were, these were, you know, they were gutted like fish. They were murdered 21:17.710 --> 21:20.770 kind of thing. And so, uh, we get established a few more characters here. 21:21.270 --> 21:24.190 We meet Tatum, played by Rose McGowan, who's Sidney's best friend. Uh, and I'll be 21:24.690 --> 21:27.290 totally honest here, like, I thought Rose McGowan was one of the hottest things walking 21:27.790 --> 21:30.830 on the earth back in the mid to late '90s. Like, absolutely, she looks stunning. 21:31.350 --> 21:34.740 Uh, she looks— I mean, it— Yeah, I was like, I was like, 21:34.770 --> 21:38.530 whoa, you know, like, oh, and I know she dated Marilyn 21:39.030 --> 21:41.030 Manson for, for a while. I'm like, oh, Marilyn Manson, great decision maker. Yeah. 21:43.167 --> 21:46.892 Um, that girl has done— that girl has dealt with some shit, that's for sure. 21:47.197 --> 21:50.584 So, uh, oh my God, yeah. Um, so it's 21:50.649 --> 21:53.924 so like— it's so funny how irresponsible 21:54.727 --> 21:58.484 this whole situation is, right? Like, there's no time for like notifying 21:58.596 --> 22:01.824 next of kin or whatever, just like media frenzy at the fucking 22:01.872 --> 22:04.473 high school, right, with a bunch of kids. We have, uh, 22:04.938 --> 22:08.342 Courteney Cox's character Gail— Gale Weathers. Looking like April O'Neil 22:08.535 --> 22:12.590 in this scene. For sure, with the yellow. This is 22:13.090 --> 22:16.490 a good poll. Yeah. Um, and she's so like— yeah, the way that they're in 22:16.990 --> 22:20.370 these, these kids' faces and everything, it's, it's really unbelievable. But we find 22:20.870 --> 22:23.930 out, you know, uh, what Tatum says to Sidney is like, oh, this is the 22:24.430 --> 22:27.830 worst thing since— and then kind of trails off, right? Right. So we find 22:28.330 --> 22:31.770 out pretty soon that like Sidney's mom was killed about a year ago. Raped and 22:32.270 --> 22:35.690 murdered. Very, like, very brutally. Exactly. And, and so we also get 22:36.190 --> 22:39.770 an introduction here to, uh, the principal, Principal Himbry, played by 22:40.270 --> 22:42.770 Henry Winkler in, I believe, an uncredited role. I don't think he's actually listed in 22:43.270 --> 22:46.650 the credits, which is wild because it's Henry Winkler. He's the anti-Steven Seagal. 22:47.150 --> 22:49.810 A, everybody likes him, and B, he doesn't care if he gets credit or not. 22:50.090 --> 22:53.470 And the range— he's on the spectrum, the Seagal to Winkler 22:53.970 --> 22:57.590 spectrum. We're going to place people here, right? Like Brad Pitt is more 22:58.090 --> 23:01.110 Seagal, but Tom Cruise is a little more Winkler, you know? Otherwise you might think 23:01.610 --> 23:04.450 those guys are similar, but they got different attitudes about this stuff. Um, but yeah, 23:04.950 --> 23:08.850 so, so basically, yeah, Sydney's mom a year ago, brutal murder, terrible. The principal comes 23:09.350 --> 23:12.090 off a little creepy to begin with. He's like very, uh, uh, 23:12.590 --> 23:15.431 whatever, kind of like You know, the kid— there's some kids who put on the 23:15.931 --> 23:18.222 mask. The whole point of it is that the mask and whatever that they find, 23:18.720 --> 23:22.761 uh, or no, wait, yeah, that's right, they find 23:23.261 --> 23:26.451 a mask. Or is that later? So there's a— let's see here, because the kid— 23:26.951 --> 23:30.685 the kids are running around. First we meet the friends. That's right. So, so first 23:31.185 --> 23:34.085 we got, we got Sydney and Tatum, we got Rose McGowan and Neve Campbell, 23:34.454 --> 23:37.133 and then they're meeting like their other— the rest of their crew, right? 23:37.341 --> 23:40.854 Right. Who is, uh, Matthew Lillard. Stu. Stu. 23:41.175 --> 23:44.680 Yep. And then Randy is played by Jamie Kennedy, 23:45.180 --> 23:48.120 right? And then Skeet Ulrich is Billy, right? Billy met him. But yeah, so it's 23:48.620 --> 23:52.480 like the 5 Billy Loomis. Isn't Dr. Loomis the doctor in 23:52.980 --> 23:55.980 in Halloween? He's in the witch. I don't know. No, no, no. In Halloween, 23:56.480 --> 23:59.480 the Michael Myers Halloween. Yeah, that's right. It is Loomis. So there's a there's a 23:59.980 --> 24:04.000 shout out there. Oh my god! During this scene, 24:04.500 --> 24:07.740 I mean, they're really Lillard and Kennedy must have had a bet to see who 24:08.240 --> 24:11.060 could be the most hateable. Like throughout this little scene here, 24:11.560 --> 24:15.320 Jamie Kennedy is like Hollywood said, "Hey, what if?" Is 24:15.820 --> 24:19.700 there a way we could do that? And he, he fucking calms down later, 24:20.200 --> 24:22.280 but this scene, I'm like, dude, if I have to sit through the whole movie 24:22.780 --> 24:25.460 of this. I mean, at least he's minor. And I'll be honest, like, I, 24:25.960 --> 24:28.720 I, I don't want to hear any, uh, uh, slander against Lillard. I'm a big 24:29.220 --> 24:32.460 Matthew Lillard fan. Uh, I really think he's, he's wonderful. And I think that he's 24:32.960 --> 24:34.560 one of the few— Well, I hear a lot of good stories of him as, 24:35.060 --> 24:38.160 like, a person. But there's also, like, a range he has that's kind of 24:38.660 --> 24:41.620 wild. Like, there is, 'cause especially when you do learn— Yeah, I hate his character, 24:42.120 --> 24:43.480 which is the function of it. Exactly, right, exactly. But there's only so much of 24:43.980 --> 24:47.204 that that you can do. that type of behavior. Because think of 24:47.236 --> 24:50.572 the guy who's like, that's what a cool guy acts like, when they watch 24:50.604 --> 24:54.196 this movie. And then they're just all like, like the fucking— so, 24:54.549 --> 24:57.564 uh, flip side though, Jamie Kennedy, it feels like it's just being Jamie Kennedy at 24:58.064 --> 25:00.371 times. And I don't— yes, I don't get that vibe as much of like— and 25:00.871 --> 25:03.466 then when he's normal, they're saying, hey, be less Jamie Kennedy for this scene. 25:04.637 --> 25:07.379 And for Lillard, they say, hey, can you Jamie Kennedy it up a little bit? 25:07.427 --> 25:10.924 Exactly right. Yeah. But they're, they're having this talk about like the actual murder, 25:10.988 --> 25:13.939 and they're being super insensitive and super like gross about it. 25:14.067 --> 25:17.242 Like, I mean, total boys trying to like 25:17.530 --> 25:20.593 shock their, their female friends kind of thing, right? 25:20.978 --> 25:24.842 But they're basically doing like a— Matthew Lillard's doing like his O.J., 25:24.986 --> 25:28.177 like, if I did it, right? Yeah, yeah, thing of like how he would have 25:28.209 --> 25:31.432 done it. Yeah. Um, okay, so then we get 25:31.496 --> 25:34.767 back to Sidney's house. Yeah, that's right. So we're at Sidney's house that night and 25:35.267 --> 25:38.680 she is gonna stay the weekend at Tatum's. And so she's like waiting 25:38.792 --> 25:41.181 and Tatum said like, I'll pick you up at 7 or something like that. 25:41.437 --> 25:45.390 She falls— Sidney falls asleep on the couch And it's like dark by 25:45.890 --> 25:47.490 the time she— which is like way later than 7. I got confused at first 25:47.990 --> 25:51.270 because then Tatum calls and she like picks up the phone, um, and says something 25:51.770 --> 25:54.150 like, oh, like, I fell asleep. Oh, it's, it's late. It's after 7. And I'm 25:54.650 --> 25:57.530 thinking to myself, yeah, like, unless this is the dead of winter, like, yeah, 25:58.030 --> 25:59.830 it's dark out. It would be way after 7, you know, kind of thing. 25:59.970 --> 26:02.510 Um, I think she was just saying you were supposed to come and snap me. 26:03.010 --> 26:05.130 Right. That's my bad. But basically it's like, okay, I'm on my way, kind of 26:05.630 --> 26:08.630 thing. And then she hangs up the phone, phone rings again, like, and I think 26:09.130 --> 26:11.310 she answers something like, what'd you forget? Or something like that. And this is like 26:11.657 --> 26:15.384 you know, hi, Sidney. Like, it's the killer, right? And so the killer calls her 26:15.593 --> 26:19.031 and she, she does not play along the way Casey does. 26:19.240 --> 26:22.421 No. Um, and the killer is a little more— She thinks it's Randy. Yeah, 26:22.437 --> 26:25.104 she thinks it's Randy. It's like her immediate thought. Exactly. 'Cause he works at a 26:25.604 --> 26:28.911 video store. Like, he would be the guy calling with like movie trivia and shit 26:28.944 --> 26:31.675 like that. They do establish that he's like a big movie nerd, you know, 26:31.739 --> 26:34.952 kind of thing. And she, so she, you know, was like, thinks it's Randy, 26:34.968 --> 26:38.149 whatever. And then finally the killer's like, well, I'm not Randy or whatever, you know? 26:38.726 --> 26:41.772 Uh, and then now she, you know, and she makes a joke, she makes a 26:42.272 --> 26:44.833 comment about, I hate those movies where the girl runs up the stairs instead of 26:45.333 --> 26:48.552 running out the door like she's supposed to. Yeah. Well, she like locks the door, 26:48.680 --> 26:51.485 the front door, and then unlocks it because the killer says, well, I'm on your 26:51.985 --> 26:53.601 porch, whatever. So she goes out there and like, haha, I called your bluff, 26:53.665 --> 26:56.566 nobody's here. Goes back inside and does the little chain lock on the front door, 26:56.694 --> 27:00.156 and then the killer busts out from the hall closet and like attacks her. 27:00.765 --> 27:04.003 And this was— I really like this because this is like the first time we 27:04.503 --> 27:07.609 see how Sidney reacts to being in danger. Like Casey, like Tried to hide and 27:08.109 --> 27:09.965 then tried to run. Like that was kind of her thing. And Sydney immediately is 27:09.981 --> 27:13.058 like, "Fuck you, Shane. I'm gonna fight back." Like whatever happens, right? 27:13.362 --> 27:16.551 But because she put the chain on the damn door, that's not a quick. 27:17.048 --> 27:18.939 You know, you can't just do that quickly. So she's not able to get the 27:18.955 --> 27:22.480 front door unlocked. She runs up the stairs. I think it's like a nice little 27:22.980 --> 27:25.765 very clever. I mean, the way that things fall into place in this movie, 27:25.781 --> 27:28.762 it's just like wow. Shout out that Kevin Williamson. Yeah. 27:29.451 --> 27:33.474 Um, yeah. And when And 27:33.974 --> 27:36.904 he says like, uh, if you hang up on me, you'll, you'll die just like 27:37.404 --> 27:40.864 your mother. And like, oh right, fucking crazy, right? So she gets chased upstairs. 27:41.312 --> 27:45.015 Uh, she can't— she picks up the phone, she gets chased into her bedroom, 27:45.079 --> 27:48.831 right? And then does another slick move where she closes the door and then opens 27:48.863 --> 27:52.534 the closet so that when the door tries to open from the hallway, 27:52.550 --> 27:56.188 it like gets stuck on the closet door. Which actually has his hands— the fun 27:56.220 --> 27:59.122 part was established when her dad knocked on her door. The reason her dad didn't 27:59.622 --> 28:02.889 just come in when Billy— is that she had done the same thing. Fucking screenwriting. 28:02.953 --> 28:06.440 Exactly. Before that even. Um, and the 28:06.940 --> 28:10.040 Scream guy, his arm is through there with a knife swinging at her. She picks 28:10.540 --> 28:13.660 up the phone, the phone is dead, but luckily I can go to 911.com. 28:14.260 --> 28:17.640 It's so weird. It was so weird. But she's got like an 28:18.140 --> 28:21.740 AIM chat room 911 thing, dude. I don't understand it. It's like 28:22.240 --> 28:25.250 suddenly we're in WarGames and like Matthew Broderick's putting the phone on a little receiver. 28:25.720 --> 28:28.780 Exactly. Calling into Whopper. Like, it's so bizarre. Like, 28:29.280 --> 28:32.020 what's the nature of your emergency? So as she's doing that, it shows that she 28:32.520 --> 28:35.988 establishes contact and is saying like, what's going on? You know, 28:36.165 --> 28:39.133 the killer's kind of gone, and then there's something at her window, 28:39.214 --> 28:42.231 right? And Billy's very much— startles her. Startles her. And it's Billy 28:42.263 --> 28:45.360 again, right? And he's coming back through, and she— again, we established just the night 28:45.392 --> 28:48.810 before, this one night ago when Billy popped in, that he had never done 28:48.842 --> 28:52.276 that before. This is not like the normal way Billy comes over. Yeah, right. 28:52.372 --> 28:55.470 Especially given that Billy knows Dad is gone. 28:55.807 --> 28:59.257 Neil is, is not there. So it's very strange. But he immediately is like, 28:59.594 --> 29:02.145 like, oh, I saw him, I scared him off, I scared him off, or whatever. 29:02.482 --> 29:05.672 But like a cell phone drops out of his pocket, which is like— it 29:06.172 --> 29:09.439 was '96, so like, yeah, people had cell phones, but like not very many people 29:09.939 --> 29:13.479 had cell phones, especially teenagers. Just not real common. And this is 29:13.527 --> 29:17.118 like, you know, basically Sidney is now terrified of Billy. 29:17.374 --> 29:20.981 Yeah. 'Cause it's like, you're there, you've got a phone, and like, what the 29:21.481 --> 29:25.293 fuck's going on? And then because she did contact 911, almost immediately showing 29:25.389 --> 29:28.980 up is some sheriff's deputies, including Dewey, which is played 29:29.252 --> 29:32.843 by David Arquette and is Tatum's older brother, who is also like a sheriff's deputy 29:32.859 --> 29:35.610 and just a few years older than maybe like, 21 or 22 or 24. 29:36.110 --> 29:37.950 I don't know what he says, but it's like he's just a few years older. 29:38.330 --> 29:42.160 And, uh, they find the mask and the costume and all this stuff. 29:42.310 --> 29:45.630 No knife or anything, but they find those things. And apparently they make a point 29:46.130 --> 29:49.190 to say this is sold at every— he even says five and dime, 29:49.690 --> 29:52.690 which is like nobody in fucking '96 would have said five and dime. Folded every 29:53.190 --> 29:55.690 five and dime in the state. Oh, we need to small town vibes this script 29:56.190 --> 29:59.550 up a little bit. Can you change that to five and dime? And the way 30:00.050 --> 30:03.819 that Dewey— so, so Casey runs down the stairs fucking horrified. Or Sidney, 30:04.316 --> 30:07.737 and opens the front door, and the mask is right there, 30:07.769 --> 30:10.965 and you're holding it up. And this is Dewey holding the mask. 30:11.158 --> 30:14.852 It's so bizarre. Almost like it was in front of the peephole. 30:14.997 --> 30:17.630 Yes. Right? Which is like— and this is the thing we should mention, right? 30:17.711 --> 30:21.629 They do— Williamson and Craven do such a good job in this movie of letting 30:21.806 --> 30:24.793 us believe any number of, like, 30:24.809 --> 30:28.246 7 different characters could be the killer. Yeah. There's so 30:28.746 --> 30:31.908 many red herrings and misdirections and different things. You know, we now have good reason 30:32.004 --> 30:35.457 to suspect Billy. He was there. He's got the cell phone. Okay, we have 30:35.957 --> 30:39.696 some reason to suspect Dewey only because like also he was there very conveniently. 30:39.952 --> 30:43.083 Yep, he's got the mask. He's weirdly holding it up to the thing. Like there's 30:43.583 --> 30:46.921 very strangeness going on kind of stuff. Um, but they do— and he also probably 30:47.098 --> 30:50.566 would have known that her dad was gone because he would have been aware that, 30:50.726 --> 30:54.050 that Sidney's going to their house. Yep, exactly right. He's got all the right information. 30:54.098 --> 30:56.314 Yeah, so there's all this stuff that's like, okay, well, it could be these guys. 30:56.812 --> 31:00.020 Um, but yeah, so basically Dewey and the other cops, they arrest 31:00.520 --> 31:02.460 Billy, and Billy is like yelling out to Sidney, like, Sidney, tell them, like, 31:02.960 --> 31:04.740 it's not me, tell them. And she's kind of like, I don't fucking know. 31:05.240 --> 31:07.800 Yeah, I don't know. It's not you. You were there, bro. Like, you showed up. 31:08.300 --> 31:10.680 And that's kind of what she says, like, well, he was there. Yeah, you know. 31:11.180 --> 31:12.580 And he's like, yeah, the cops said I scared him off or whatever. But it's 31:13.080 --> 31:16.280 like she doesn't really buy it, um, nor should she, frankly. 31:16.780 --> 31:20.120 Oh God. Uh, um, yeah. And, and they're, 31:20.620 --> 31:24.020 uh, and they're trying to find Sidney's dad, and he's not answering. 31:24.520 --> 31:27.531 Like, he had given her information about, I'm staying at this hotel, like Call me 31:28.031 --> 31:30.624 if you need me. So Sydney's at the police station now, 31:31.234 --> 31:35.065 and Billy's being held, right? And it's fucking 31:35.097 --> 31:38.319 crazy. I mean, you're in a small police station, but like Billy's across the room 31:38.463 --> 31:41.493 from her, right? Which is like in a holding cell, just like in an office. 31:41.573 --> 31:45.148 He's just chilling. And as they're leaving the police 31:45.180 --> 31:48.018 station, the whole thing is swarmed again by cops, 31:48.707 --> 31:52.458 or by press, which again is like, you're getting 31:52.490 --> 31:55.860 news pretty quick. I think they have a cop like in Seven. 31:56.360 --> 31:59.680 They have a Somerset or a Mills like selling them some information so they 32:00.180 --> 32:04.060 could show up there. But Gale gets in Sidney's face, you know, asking questions, 32:04.560 --> 32:08.120 and then Sidney just punches her, which is nice. She slugs her. 32:08.620 --> 32:11.800 And so we get this little— or not quite yet. I think next is Sidney 32:12.300 --> 32:15.420 goes to Tatum's house. Yep. And Tatum's mom is like— they're kind of in bed, 32:15.920 --> 32:18.580 but Tatum's mom is like, oh, there's a phone call for Sidney, right? And she's 32:19.080 --> 32:20.820 like, oh, okay. And she gets it. My dad? And she's like, I don't know. 32:21.320 --> 32:23.266 So she goes and takes the phone call, and it's the killer again. Yeah. 32:23.523 --> 32:27.817 And so now we're establishing, oh no, the killer called Sidney while 32:27.849 --> 32:30.782 Billy is in jail. Ooh, maybe it can't be Billy, 32:30.878 --> 32:34.099 right? That kind of thing. Um, and then here's the part we get a little 32:34.599 --> 32:38.570 bit of news information that gives us some exposition about what happened to Sidney's 32:39.070 --> 32:42.656 mom. And so the storyline here, I think we've seen enough to 32:43.156 --> 32:44.339 this point in the movie, we can kind of figure it all out. But like, 32:44.820 --> 32:48.057 uh, basically, uh, there's this man named 32:48.105 --> 32:50.977 Cotton Cotton Weary, I think, or— yeah, Cotton Weary. 32:51.314 --> 32:54.765 And I had totally forgotten that he was played in his momentary appearance on 32:55.265 --> 32:57.815 screen by Liev Schreiber. I was surprised too. I was like, that's the best actor 32:58.315 --> 33:01.604 in this whole movie. Absolutely, 100%. Pure acting talent. By a mile. By a 33:01.684 --> 33:05.183 mile and a half. Henry Winkler is next. Yeah, you know, as likable as 33:05.199 --> 33:08.361 he is, like, you know. Um, but yeah, like, Liev Schreiber is like 33:08.861 --> 33:12.101 in this little, uh, uh, you know, footage clip, news footage clip 33:12.117 --> 33:15.585 of like having been the person arrested and is on death row. Yeah, for the 33:16.085 --> 33:19.780 rape and murder of Sidney's mom. And Gale, Courteney Cox's character, does not believe 33:20.280 --> 33:23.820 that he did it. She says the only actual, like, 33:24.320 --> 33:27.680 evidence or whatever that, like, put Cotton away was Sidney's testimony. 33:28.180 --> 33:31.440 Sidney's identifying him. Yeah. And she's like, I don't believe that you actually saw him, 33:31.940 --> 33:33.980 like, all this kind of stuff, whatever. And I might be jumping ahead a little 33:34.480 --> 33:37.960 bit. These little bits of information come in several parts of the movie. But basically, 33:38.460 --> 33:41.800 that's why Sidney hates Gale. And that's why Gale is so interested in what's going 33:42.300 --> 33:45.500 on, because she's writing a book about Cotton Weary and, like, the actual 33:46.000 --> 33:46.660 murder and all this stuff. And Gale's convinced that Cotton Weary didn't do it. 33:48.576 --> 33:51.882 Exactly right. It's convinced there wasn't any evidence other than, uh, 33:51.962 --> 33:55.814 Sidney's, uh, uh, testimony, and that she very much, just given the circumstances 33:56.314 --> 33:58.109 of like it was dark or like whatever, it could have been somebody else. 33:58.157 --> 34:01.159 Like, oh, you saw a jacket and not like whatever, all this stuff. Um, 34:01.335 --> 34:04.208 but yeah. Um, so, so they're back at school again, 34:04.256 --> 34:07.899 right? And Billy's been released, right? And, and as Sidney— so now the 34:07.931 --> 34:10.210 word is out that Sidney has been attacked by this, 34:10.660 --> 34:16.405 this killer, and she's got this other reporter in her face 34:16.905 --> 34:19.080 Like, how does it feel to be almost brutally butchered? And then Tatum like pulls 34:19.580 --> 34:23.120 her away, and then the reporter's like, the people deserve to know. 34:23.200 --> 34:26.980 It's like, Sidney, you gotta bring more punches next time because she deserved a 34:27.480 --> 34:30.799 damn uppercut there. It was really bad. But now there's all 34:31.299 --> 34:34.460 these people because this mask is so commonly available, we're told. Which, by the way, 34:34.960 --> 34:38.660 just side note real quick, it was actually a generic Halloween costume mask 34:39.160 --> 34:41.960 before this movie. Oh, okay. I wasn't sure if it was made. Okay. Yeah, 34:42.460 --> 34:46.180 the production design crew created one Um, and, you know, Craven was like, 34:46.340 --> 34:49.500 okay, whatever. And then apparently he or another production assistant or somebody stumbled upon 34:50.000 --> 34:53.320 this mask and, and sort of outfit. It was called, um, like— It was 34:53.820 --> 34:56.920 called William Shatner, right? No, it was called— that's Michael Myers. Uh, no, it was 34:57.420 --> 35:00.060 called like the, you know, Ghost Grim Reaper or something. Was like the generic name. 35:00.560 --> 35:03.400 Yeah, it was used. And they— and Craven just liked it way better. Um, 35:03.900 --> 35:07.320 the Weinsteins, who are, you know, the executive producers of this, kept pushing him 35:07.820 --> 35:10.460 to change it. They're like, it looks too goofy, it looks too silly. Yeah, 35:10.960 --> 35:13.700 don't— we're not doing this. You're not using this mask. This mask looks awful. 35:14.257 --> 35:17.707 And so Craven cut together a very, very quickly cut 35:18.207 --> 35:21.702 together a version of the opening sequence with Casey to show to the Weinstein brothers. 35:22.119 --> 35:25.361 And after that, they said, okay, do whatever you want. Nice. Like, this works fine. 35:25.665 --> 35:28.393 And so it really was like a generic, you could find it. Like, you know, 35:28.474 --> 35:31.731 I don't remember seeing it before this movie, but like, arguably, depending on what part 35:32.231 --> 35:35.951 of the country you're in, you might have been familiar with that mask before 35:36.451 --> 35:39.545 this movie came out. Like, it did exist as like— That's crazy. Like a five 35:40.045 --> 35:43.640 and dime, you know? Yeah. Like Halloween masks. And is it produced by the evil 35:44.140 --> 35:47.420 mask company from Halloween 3? Oh no, it's not. Silver Shamrock? No, no, 35:47.920 --> 35:51.080 unfortunately that was, uh, it was, uh, it's too generic for even them, you know. 35:51.580 --> 35:54.960 That's, that's, it's not Irish enough. So, so these students, uh, like you said, 35:55.460 --> 35:58.040 they're, they're running through the halls with the mask on to fuck around with it. 35:58.540 --> 36:01.720 And again, we're 2 days removed from like 2 students being brutally killed 36:02.220 --> 36:05.080 and then someone else being attacked, and we know this thing's still on the loose. 36:05.240 --> 36:08.360 And they're running down the hall and Winkler takes them into the office and he's 36:08.860 --> 36:12.440 fucking pissed. He's being tough guy. Oh, he's got these huge scissors. 36:12.820 --> 36:16.200 These fucking like opening of a new gas station cutting ribbon scissors. 36:16.700 --> 36:20.240 These are only for mayors in fake in like ceremonial hard hats. 36:20.740 --> 36:23.420 Yeah, it's like if you've got something in between bonsai and a hedge that you 36:23.920 --> 36:26.820 need to need to trim, you know? But he's so but he's like you know 36:27.320 --> 36:30.400 shaking them at the kids and he's like oh you monsters your whole generation da 36:30.900 --> 36:32.920 da all this stuff and it's like this is like is the principal the killer? 36:33.420 --> 36:36.360 Like he's certainly comfortable wielding a weapon like all this. They are the size of 36:36.860 --> 36:41.720 the Lebowski dream sequence. We're gonna cut your Johnson. off scissors. 36:42.220 --> 36:45.800 Um, but yeah, so he's like, he's telling these kids like, you're both expelled. 36:45.980 --> 36:48.480 Yeah, you know, immediately. Which is like, I don't think he has the power to 36:48.980 --> 36:52.380 do that. No, but, but I do like that as a first move, just because 36:52.880 --> 36:56.240 I would be like, this is so egregiously awful what you're doing. 36:56.740 --> 37:00.040 Like, A, the school should not be operating for— it should be no school the 37:00.540 --> 37:03.200 rest of the week, right? At least. Like, yeah. Which, like, now I'm not even 37:03.700 --> 37:04.740 sure what day of the week it was. Like, I thought it was going to 37:05.240 --> 37:07.040 become the weekend, but then it clearly isn't. So it's the middle of the week 37:07.540 --> 37:09.378 sometime. That, that part I was just wrong about, because they keep having to go 37:09.878 --> 37:13.346 back to school. Right. Um, but here we get, uh, so then, 37:13.619 --> 37:17.941 uh, Sidney goes to the bathroom. Yep. And there are these 2 girls talking about 37:18.359 --> 37:22.295 how Sidney, like, might be the killer herself, 37:22.311 --> 37:25.123 or like, you know, whatever. This is like cheerleader chick who's got this crazy theory 37:25.623 --> 37:29.203 about how, you know, she went crazy because her mom got killed. Yeah. And since 37:29.703 --> 37:32.979 clearly Billy didn't do it since they released him, so obviously that means he's completely 37:33.075 --> 37:36.478 innocent if you're like arrested and released. Like, clearly you did nothing wrong. You know, 37:36.510 --> 37:39.092 all this kind of stuff. And she's like hearing this in the stall, and it's 37:39.592 --> 37:43.150 like hard for her to hear. And finally these bitches leave. She goes back to— 37:43.262 --> 37:47.063 These two girls in the thing, terrible. The other, the one 37:47.111 --> 37:50.704 who's speaking less with the short hair, head to toe, worst look 37:51.204 --> 37:55.403 I've ever seen. Like clothing, haircut, every single thing. I'm like— 37:56.077 --> 37:59.268 Also, again, on the topic of actors who are not teenagers 37:59.364 --> 38:03.133 playing teenagers, the cheerleader one is a mother of 2. Like, this is not a 38:03.633 --> 38:07.126 person who's like, Like, real young, this woman. Like, I've seen that lady 38:07.158 --> 38:09.226 at soccer games. Like, you know what I mean? Like, that is a soccer mom 38:09.306 --> 38:12.817 right there. It is crazy. Um, so Sidney— so these, 38:12.993 --> 38:16.424 these awful— and again, great device to like move things along. 38:16.616 --> 38:19.950 These awful girls leave and Sidney's like kind of checking for feet under the 38:20.450 --> 38:23.493 stalls. Well, she starts hearing something and she's like, what's going on? Right? And then 38:23.993 --> 38:27.517 she sees a couple feet. Well, because she hears Sidney, the whispering. Sidney is like 38:28.017 --> 38:30.082 whispering. Oh yeah, yeah. See, I watch all these— I know I watch all these 38:30.098 --> 38:33.705 with headphones in, so all I heard was cars driving by the front of 38:34.205 --> 38:37.622 my house. But yeah, so she hears whispering, whatever, 38:37.638 --> 38:40.914 so she starts looking around. And yeah, then like 2 boots sort 38:41.414 --> 38:43.805 of like come down, like as if they were sitting maybe up on the toilet, 38:43.886 --> 38:47.339 and then the bottom of that outfit, right? So she knows 38:47.839 --> 38:50.375 what's up now. Now, you know, bust— the killer busts through the door of the, 38:50.471 --> 38:53.812 of the, uh, stall, tries to attack her. She like does a slide 38:53.828 --> 38:56.735 move. I know, that was a very cool move. Very, very, uh, uh, 38:56.816 --> 39:00.157 True Lies bathroom fight kind of going on. Yes. Um, with no guns. 39:00.430 --> 39:03.540 But yeah, so So she slides out and is able to like run away and 39:04.040 --> 39:06.360 get away, and the killer doesn't follow her out of the bathroom. Like, obviously, 39:06.860 --> 39:10.400 like, that's the thing. But now, like, uh, the, the classes 39:10.900 --> 39:13.400 get suspended. Yeah. The principal calls out over the PA like, hey, with everything going 39:13.900 --> 39:16.880 on, like, everybody go home, no classes. The, the, 39:17.380 --> 39:20.680 uh, police are putting together a 9 PM curfew. Nobody's allowed to be out after 39:21.180 --> 39:23.660 9 PM. Get on out of here. Um, and then there's this great moment where 39:24.160 --> 39:27.240 now the principal's basically alone in the school. He's got the mask, he's like looking 39:27.740 --> 39:30.110 at it, but he's kind of like, like looking around, or he thinks he hears 39:30.610 --> 39:33.450 something or whatever, and he looks out into the hallway and it's like, huh? 39:33.950 --> 39:37.190 And he's like— and the guy looks up and it's, it's this janitor dressed 39:37.690 --> 39:41.290 like Freddy Krueger. Oh, that is Wes Craven. Nice dress. Yeah, and the hat and 39:41.790 --> 39:44.950 the, and the red and green striped sweater. And he goes, huh? And the principal 39:45.450 --> 39:48.550 goes, not you, Fred. And like, it's the little things like that I fucking love 39:49.050 --> 39:52.750 in this movie. That is like a top-tier random janitor moment, right up 39:53.250 --> 39:56.450 there with Billy Madison. What about you, Sideburns? You want some milk? I'd rather have 39:56.950 --> 40:00.493 a Like, I think those are neck and neck for me. Like, I really like 40:00.993 --> 40:04.344 that. Um, yeah, so, so the principal's there and he 40:04.425 --> 40:07.907 keeps hearing— he hears a knock on the door again, right? And he comes 40:07.955 --> 40:11.390 out, nobody's there, uh, and he ends up getting— And 40:11.406 --> 40:14.616 somehow the killer is like behind the door in his office, or it's 40:15.116 --> 40:17.232 not— it's hard to tell exactly how the killer gets to where he needs to 40:17.264 --> 40:20.875 get sometimes. But sure enough, you know, he, uh, Principal Himbry closes the 40:20.939 --> 40:23.993 office door and there's the killer, attacks him, kills him. him, just, you know, 40:24.009 --> 40:27.172 stabs him, the whole deal. So now, like, 40:27.236 --> 40:30.383 the principal's dead too. So we've got what? We've got, uh, Steve is dead, 40:30.448 --> 40:33.928 Casey's dead, the principal's dead. Sidney was attacked 2 40:34.008 --> 40:37.141 or, I guess, twice really, not 3 times, but you know, there's all this 40:37.641 --> 40:40.468 stuff. And then there's a great line in here. Tatum and Sidney are like chatting 40:40.516 --> 40:44.182 again, uh, and I remember just saying that Tatum says something about 40:44.230 --> 40:47.533 watching a Wes Carpenter movie. Yes. And I just love that line too, where it's 40:48.033 --> 40:52.131 like she doesn't know well enough to separate Wes Craven and John 40:52.631 --> 40:53.772 Carpenter. Uh, they also say some shit. I forget who mentioned this because I just 40:54.272 --> 40:57.576 wrote the phrase down. Yeah, they mentioned Richard Gere's gerbil. Yeah, the Richard Gere 40:57.769 --> 41:01.236 gerbil story, which is very funny. Uh, it's having kind of a renaissance 41:01.736 --> 41:05.264 lately. Um, and again, the news people before 41:05.312 --> 41:08.586 classes are suspended standing outside there— 2 are already dead, 41:08.843 --> 41:12.535 who's next? It's like irresponsible. Fucking stop it. Well, 41:12.567 --> 41:15.119 and Gale, it turns out if they mention something— I think when she was talking 41:15.619 --> 41:18.830 to Dewey at one point She's on, I don't remember what they call the show, 41:19.330 --> 41:21.710 but it's essentially an Inside Edition or Hard Copy kind of thing. It's not, 41:22.210 --> 41:25.610 you know, it's definitely like news magazine style. Gotcha, yeah. Not like Channel 4 News 41:26.110 --> 41:29.010 or some shit. Like, she's like a tabloid, like a TV tabloid person. 41:29.360 --> 41:32.870 And so there is that element of like, no, it has to be 41:33.370 --> 41:36.110 sensational 'cause that's the whole point. That's why people tune in. This is also, 41:36.610 --> 41:39.910 you gotta remember, like really early in the 24-hour news cycle, cable news 41:40.410 --> 41:43.310 kind of phenomenon, right? Like, I mean, that really started in like the early '90s. 41:43.810 --> 41:45.970 We're only a few years into things like CNN and Fox News and whatever. 41:46.190 --> 41:49.660 really being right. So it was like a current affair and 41:50.160 --> 41:52.480 stuff like that with the things that we had. Exactly. And that's, and that's who 41:52.980 --> 41:56.540 she's like based off of or whatever. So yeah, so now 41:57.040 --> 41:59.680 we're at the video store. That's right, we get to the video store where Randy, 42:00.140 --> 42:02.860 Jamie Kennedy, works, which makes a lot of sense. Yep. Did you ever work at 42:03.360 --> 42:05.340 a video store? You worked at a Blockbuster? I worked at a theater. Oh, 42:05.840 --> 42:07.700 that's right. You just— not at a video store. I worked at a theater for 42:08.200 --> 42:12.140 a few years. I had a bunch of friends that worked at Blockbuster. Matt Jones, 42:12.640 --> 42:15.900 Matt Silbert, everyone named Matt. Yeah, I mean, that, 42:15.916 --> 42:20.235 that job again in high school was like, that was the, the holy grail 42:20.735 --> 42:23.189 of things. I did the warehouse. It was like across the street from Blockbuster, 42:23.221 --> 42:26.496 so we did music and, uh, then you're in line early for the tickets 42:26.996 --> 42:29.707 when you had to physically line up to buy Pearl Jam tickets. Yeah, 42:29.803 --> 42:33.544 fuck. So this is, this is very nice though. And, and the Randy 42:33.576 --> 42:36.835 character, and then now I flip on him because, yeah, from this scene on I'm 42:36.868 --> 42:40.223 like, okay, he should have been like this at the beginning, right? I don't 42:40.303 --> 42:43.730 like him being so weird at the very beginning. It's like 42:44.230 --> 42:47.790 too much Malibu's Most Wanted at the start or something. He has a 42:48.290 --> 42:51.550 hard time turning that off. Yeah, I think so, exactly. Yeah, 42:52.050 --> 42:55.430 'cause he starts off as like the, almost like as if Seth Green in Can't 42:55.930 --> 42:58.870 Hardly Wait was parodying him, even though that movie was later parodied in many ways. 42:59.370 --> 43:01.070 Totally. That's what it feels like, until you're right, at this point now he gets 43:01.570 --> 43:04.810 kind of picked on. We see that he's like, yeah, he's quote friends with like 43:05.310 --> 43:07.310 Stu and Billy, but they don't actually like him. They just like fuck with him. 43:07.810 --> 43:09.130 He's like the screech of the group. He's for sure. He's the stray guy who's 43:09.630 --> 43:13.003 like been a childhood friend, but doesn't have a girl, you know, know, um, 43:13.228 --> 43:16.498 and, and he's kind of talking about the video, 43:16.530 --> 43:20.185 the, uh, horror movie formulas and stuff, right? You know, this is the way things 43:20.217 --> 43:23.599 happen. And he's saying too, like, that he's suspicious of Billy. He's like, 43:23.663 --> 43:26.019 oh man, if you were— if you were— that's out— that's in bad taste, 43:26.051 --> 43:29.081 right? If you were like a suspect in a brutal murder, why'd you be hanging 43:29.113 --> 43:31.501 out in the horror movie section or something like that? Yeah, which is maybe a 43:32.001 --> 43:35.140 little much, but, but yeah, it's like, uh, you know, we get all this stuff 43:35.640 --> 43:37.705 and he starts laying down— you're right, like all these kind of— he talks a 43:37.769 --> 43:41.088 lot about the— he's the meta horror guy, right? Like, a lot of the stuff 43:41.120 --> 43:44.503 that comes in the movie, uh, is, is all about, uh, you know, 43:44.824 --> 43:47.838 basically just like it comes from him. It's because he knows movies and he knows 43:47.870 --> 43:51.205 horror movies. Um, it's interesting that they're kind of doing 43:51.237 --> 43:54.605 the thing that they always do with like a, like a vampire or a 43:55.105 --> 43:58.677 werewolf movie where they have the person who's explaining like, well, you know, the garlic 43:59.177 --> 44:02.525 thing's actually bullshit, but they can't be near holy water, and like running all that 44:03.025 --> 44:06.582 down. And then they're turning that into like the slasher killer, and that's its own 44:06.630 --> 44:09.775 type of thing. So very cool with Randy going through there. 44:10.241 --> 44:13.691 Funny line is that they're 44:14.191 --> 44:16.901 talking about like if you were in a movie, who would play you? Okay. 44:16.965 --> 44:20.448 Yeah, right. And Sidney is Sidney. They're talking about who they play. And she 44:20.948 --> 44:24.508 says, with my luck, they'd cast Tori Spelling, who plays the Sidney role 44:25.008 --> 44:27.814 in Scary Movie. That's right. So again, like just, 44:28.360 --> 44:31.184 just these guys all winking at each other behind the scenes. Well, and funny thing 44:31.248 --> 44:34.603 too, I didn't mention this earlier about the name Scary Movie in particular. That was 44:34.651 --> 44:38.670 originally the name of Kevin Williamson's script. Oh, funny. And it was actually changed 44:39.170 --> 44:43.030 by the Weinsteins after production started. So production started on this movie as Scary Movie, 44:43.440 --> 44:46.590 and the Weinsteins came in and said— because they got to put their fucking chubby 44:47.090 --> 44:49.970 little fingers in there. Yeah, they're like, no, that's like too generic, we don't want 44:50.470 --> 44:52.770 that. Like, I think they possibly even said they were concerned about the copyright or 44:53.270 --> 44:56.630 something because it's such a generic term or whatever. So they came up with Scream, 44:57.130 --> 44:59.810 and Wes Craven was basically like, okay, fine, that's fine. Like, it's still sort of 45:00.310 --> 45:03.650 generic enough that it'll work. But then when the Wayans wanted to do their parody, 45:04.150 --> 45:06.330 it's like, well, Scary Movie's right there, man. So good. You get to use it. 45:07.090 --> 45:10.530 But yeah, so the key here is that Stu, the Matthew Lillard character, 45:11.030 --> 45:13.410 is throwing a party tonight. We don't get the sense of why his folks are 45:13.910 --> 45:17.230 not around, but they're not apparently. I don't think he even says— Because he's 24. 45:17.730 --> 45:21.310 Right, exactly. He's fucking 26 and has a mortgage. Um, but yeah, so like, 45:21.810 --> 45:24.490 that's— they're, they're like renting a movie. Like, Randy's like, I'm gonna bring over like 45:24.990 --> 45:27.630 a Halloween or, or, uh, I know he says prom night or whatever, like a 45:28.130 --> 45:31.710 couple of Jamie Lee Curtis, you know, type movies. Yep. And so, 45:32.210 --> 45:34.610 so then, uh, everything we see, we get this little montage almost of like all 45:35.110 --> 45:38.377 these these things in town closing down for the curfew, and it's— again, it's still 45:38.409 --> 45:41.615 light out. I know, they're saying, they're saying the curfew's at 9 PM. 45:41.791 --> 45:45.607 It's already been established a few days ago it's pitch-ass black at 7 PM, 45:45.623 --> 45:48.781 which is what I thought. And then we've got like a mom having 45:48.829 --> 45:52.276 a picnic with a little kid in like the park and like quickly scooping 45:52.776 --> 45:56.091 him up and running away. It's like, it's 3:15, as if an air raid siren 45:56.187 --> 45:58.913 just went off and the Purge is about to begin. Oh shit, we gotta get 45:59.413 --> 46:02.920 home. Like, give me a break. Like very weird because Tatum and Sydney are still 46:03.420 --> 46:06.400 food shopping. Yeah, they're supposed to bring all the food apparently for this enormous party, 46:06.900 --> 46:09.650 this big old party, fucking 7,000 square foot haunted house. 46:09.820 --> 46:13.860 Um, because when we get this establishing shot of Stu's house, it's crazy. It's huge. 46:14.360 --> 46:18.040 Ridiculous. Yeah, and there's a, there's a scene I really liked with the, 46:18.540 --> 46:21.920 the sheriff and Dewey. Yeah, kind of talking back and forth about their theory. 46:22.420 --> 46:24.940 But it's funny, the sheriff's out there smoking a cigarette and Dewey's like, you know, 46:25.440 --> 46:28.530 I thought you quit, whatever. And Dewey's like got an ice cream cone. And then 46:29.030 --> 46:31.290 it keeps showing back and forth. The sheriff will take a puff of the cigarette 46:31.790 --> 46:34.970 as Dewey's taking a lick of the ice cream. Really funny. There's also a moment 46:35.470 --> 46:38.090 there where I swear we get a focus on the boots of the sheriff because 46:38.590 --> 46:42.630 he like steps out the cigarette. Oh, yes. That I think was meant to evoke 46:43.130 --> 46:45.590 the boots in the bathroom. I don't know if they were the exact same boots. 46:46.090 --> 46:48.250 I didn't go back and check. I think that's a great point. But I think 46:48.750 --> 46:50.530 that was another sort of like, could it be this guy? Right. Like, you know, 46:51.030 --> 46:53.550 there's so many of those things. Or Dewey has the same boots. Or something. 46:54.050 --> 46:55.850 Yeah, exactly. Because we definitely like Dewey, we get, I think, as a legitimate, 46:56.350 --> 46:59.190 it could be him. Like, they try that. I don't know that the sheriff, 46:59.239 --> 47:02.363 we get enough pieces of that, but like Dewey, Neil, you know, 47:02.379 --> 47:05.439 Billy, like there's so many people that get— I mean, Randy, for a while we 47:05.727 --> 47:08.627 were led to believe it's Randy. Like the principal, there's so many people that they 47:09.127 --> 47:11.992 let us think could be the killer, which is one of my favorite parts of 47:12.492 --> 47:15.837 the movie. Yeah, it's very well done. Um, so we're at the 47:16.337 --> 47:19.362 party now. Dewey has brought Tatum and Sidney, I think, like, like given them a 47:19.862 --> 47:23.575 ride. Yes. And then Gale is there, like, not far behind. And Gale and Dewey 47:23.607 --> 47:27.881 are being very flirty with each other. It's like we see the real life relationship 47:28.026 --> 47:31.998 happening, right? Between— what 47:32.498 --> 47:35.760 an odd pairing. Yeah, that never made sense to me. I guess it's one of 47:36.260 --> 47:39.527 those— like, look, as an overweight, bald, funny guy, 47:39.816 --> 47:43.438 I really should respect the idea that sometimes being funny is the way into 47:43.938 --> 47:47.311 a girl's heart. And David Arquette must be fucking hilarious at some 47:47.811 --> 47:50.450 point in his life because I don't really see it, but like, that's gotta be 47:50.466 --> 47:53.606 what happened, right? He must be a funny, funny guy. I've heard her, 47:53.622 --> 47:57.263 like, years ago in interviews, talking about him, and, you know, she's just like over 47:57.763 --> 48:00.982 the moon. Everything he does is brilliant. Oh, and he does music, and I love 48:01.014 --> 48:04.925 when he does the— sings these songs so soulful. And it's really funny because she 48:05.425 --> 48:08.067 used to date Adam Duritz from The Counting Crows. That's right, yes. And it's funny 48:08.567 --> 48:13.341 for Adam Duritz to be like, she said all that stuff about my music. 48:13.934 --> 48:17.188 David Arquette just playing a guitar at a campfire is getting the 48:17.688 --> 48:21.596 same props as August and everything after. What the fuck? But apparently Courteney Cox's 48:21.613 --> 48:25.107 type is weird-looking dudes who like are vaguely musical. Like, 48:25.123 --> 48:28.992 that's kind of like her guy, I guess. Like, artistic weirdos 48:29.137 --> 48:32.254 is Courteney Cox's type. I missed my— I missed my chance, I guess. 48:32.752 --> 48:36.302 Yeah. Um, so Gale— Gale has kind 48:36.802 --> 48:39.371 of gone into the party with Dewey, and Dewey's like, oh, she's my guest. 48:39.580 --> 48:42.423 And Dewey's like fucking with people, like, hey, put that beer down. Are you— ah, 48:42.568 --> 48:45.653 just kidding. Which is like, that is actually a minor drinking alcohol, 48:45.685 --> 48:48.993 and you are actually a law enforcement officer. It's probably something you ought to actually 48:49.493 --> 48:52.402 deal with. Um, and she manages to, 48:52.714 --> 48:57.130 to put a camera Yeah. In the party. Yeah. Very discreet. 48:57.630 --> 49:00.010 Just cameras sitting on top of— Sitting on a VCR or whatever. But I do 49:00.510 --> 49:03.010 love that this camera thing works because, or the way it works, 'cause it's got 49:03.510 --> 49:06.450 like a 30-second delay. Brilliant. So fantastic. Such a great choice. 49:06.950 --> 49:09.730 'Cause they could have made it a thing that just real time, like whatever. 49:10.230 --> 49:12.410 Like they could have. 'Cause they have like the van, they have all that capability. 49:12.910 --> 49:15.310 Oh, if you had told me they had that ability 'cause they're the news van, 49:15.810 --> 49:18.510 I would've bought it in a second, even in 1996. But having the delay gives 49:19.010 --> 49:22.270 this great thing that keeps showing up over the next, 'cause we're basically into the 49:22.770 --> 49:26.524 3rd act here. And this 30-second delay matters in several 49:26.540 --> 49:29.990 different spots, which is really great. I think Stu asks 49:30.490 --> 49:32.557 Tatum for a beer. That's, by the way, I don't think we mentioned, but Stu 49:33.057 --> 49:35.381 and Tatum are dating. So Rose McGowan and Matthew Lillard, they're dating as well. 49:36.167 --> 49:38.654 He asks her for a beer, for refill, whatever. So she goes out to the 49:39.154 --> 49:42.328 garage to go get some beers, and she decides to grab 6 or 7 and 49:42.828 --> 49:45.536 just carry them in her arms. Like ridiculous. Like just bring the whole fucking 6-pack 49:46.036 --> 49:49.082 at that point. But the door back into the house gets locked on her. 49:49.483 --> 49:52.114 And so she like kind of knocks like, hey idiots, like what the fuck, 49:52.130 --> 49:54.954 you know, kind of thing. So then she goes to like open the garage door 49:55.454 --> 49:58.419 to walk out and come back around. She opens, sets the garage door open, 49:58.548 --> 50:01.339 and then starts walking towards it and it starts closing again. And that's when she 50:01.839 --> 50:04.420 turns around and the killer is there. But you know, it's just a guy and 50:04.920 --> 50:07.275 it's not holding a knife. It's the guy in the mask. And again, we've established 50:07.775 --> 50:10.596 this is a well-known costume, right? And they're do— they've been doing it to fuck 50:10.644 --> 50:13.548 with each other over the last few days. So of course at this party where 50:14.048 --> 50:17.320 everyone's getting drunk, like And I think she thinks it's Randy. I think 50:17.820 --> 50:19.820 she talks to him as if it's Randy or whatever, and the guy kind of, 50:20.320 --> 50:22.759 you know, like shrugs, like, you know, kind of plays a little pantomime for a 50:23.259 --> 50:26.200 minute, but then pulls out the knife. 50:26.700 --> 50:29.300 Yes. And it's like, whatever. And so I think, like, you know, cuts her arm, 50:29.800 --> 50:32.700 like really just kind of slices a bit of her arm. She drops the beers, 50:33.200 --> 50:35.340 but then she starts fighting back. She's throwing beers at the guy, like cracking them. 50:35.840 --> 50:39.560 Chucking the bottles. Really great stuff. Yeah. And then my both 50:40.060 --> 50:43.509 favorite and least favorite moment in the entire film happens. Yeah. I love the creativity 50:44.009 --> 50:46.699 of this kill. It's like one of my— it's— I will point out this as 50:46.795 --> 50:50.337 one of the most creative kills I've ever seen. And it also is so physically 50:50.837 --> 50:53.286 impossible that it's hard for me to kind of like deal with. Yeah. Right? 50:53.382 --> 50:57.084 Garage doors have so many sensors, and this is a rolling garage 50:57.148 --> 51:00.337 door. This is not the old-school flip-up, right? This is a rolling garage door. 51:00.594 --> 51:03.911 There's so many things that would've stopped— like, first of all, the weight. It's not 51:04.411 --> 51:06.764 gonna be able to carry a person. You know, it would've— as soon as there 51:07.264 --> 51:09.361 was any resistance, it would've stopped, like all this stuff. But the fact that it 51:09.473 --> 51:12.746 lit— she goes through the like cat door, door and gets stuck. Yeah, 51:12.939 --> 51:15.797 I guess her boobs or something. Yeah, but her boobs were through. That's the thing. 51:15.894 --> 51:18.672 So she either should be able to go back or go forward. It's weird where 51:18.721 --> 51:21.901 she gets stuck. And obviously it's just for the moment. As somebody with 51:22.174 --> 51:25.563 the automatic garage door who's run into times where it's like, I'm trying to 51:25.611 --> 51:29.144 leave the house and it's closing, and then like a flap for a 51:29.644 --> 51:32.726 box like crosses the plane of the sensor and then it goes— it's 51:33.226 --> 51:36.099 like, mother— exactly. Like, I wish I had that reliable of a garage door. 51:36.468 --> 51:40.560 So yeah, like you said, It's, it's unlikely that it would actually work 51:41.060 --> 51:43.820 that way, but what a creative way to, uh, to have somebody die in a 51:44.320 --> 51:47.600 horror movie. Yeah, from a guy who's like written hundreds of deaths, you know? 51:48.100 --> 51:49.800 Exactly. And that's the thing too, is like, so I love it because I love 51:50.300 --> 51:52.460 the creativity behind it, but I also kind of like, fuck, it's like the least 51:52.960 --> 51:56.540 realistic way anyone dies in this movie, or in many other— not all, 51:57.040 --> 51:59.800 obviously, but many other movies. Yeah, yeah. Um, but now, but Tatum is dead and 52:00.300 --> 52:02.640 also kind of like not seen by anyone. Like, that's the other key too, 52:03.140 --> 52:04.860 is like this garage is sort of off the side of the house. You know, 52:05.360 --> 52:07.569 sometimes houses are built like that, right? The garage door's in Not in the front, 52:07.585 --> 52:10.700 so like nobody sees her right away or anything. Killer goes back into the 52:11.200 --> 52:14.779 party apparently. I'm surprised that a party of people who need beers send someone 52:14.795 --> 52:18.375 for beers, don't get their beers, and nobody goes— like forget about checking 52:18.488 --> 52:22.197 on the person, go get the beers for everyone. Or was there like other beer 52:22.697 --> 52:25.216 in the inside fridge? I mean, there's all kinds of like potential questions here. 52:25.729 --> 52:29.310 But basically Sidney and Billy are gonna go chat because Billy's kind of like, 52:29.326 --> 52:32.827 you still don't think it's me, do you? Like whatever, like it obviously isn't me, 52:32.955 --> 52:36.712 da da da da da, whatever. And this is when they— like 52:37.212 --> 52:40.920 Sidney decides, okay, We can bang. Yeah, apparently she decides like I need 52:41.420 --> 52:44.890 to trust that it wasn't you. It's not you. Whatever. Let's go ahead. 52:45.390 --> 52:48.900 And then kind of simultaneously with this happening is Randy down in the living room. 52:49.400 --> 52:53.040 They're watching Halloween. Yeah, the original. And he's talking about the rules of 52:53.540 --> 52:56.120 a horror movie. And and this is like one of the more famous honestly will 52:56.620 --> 52:59.760 almost assuredly be the intro clip right for this episode because it's great stuff. 53:00.260 --> 53:03.520 And he's talking about how like you know the virgin always survives. You don't ever 53:04.020 --> 53:06.120 have sex. Don't ever drink or do drugs. Like everything he says, all the people 53:06.620 --> 53:09.896 are like oh no that sucks. Yeah, whatever. And he's like never say. gonna be 53:10.396 --> 53:12.637 right back, whatever. And that's when Stu gets up and goes like, I'll be right 53:13.137 --> 53:16.934 back. Yeah, yeah, kind of thing. Um, and then it's like when he mentions nudity 53:16.982 --> 53:20.220 at one point, we cut back up to Sid and Billy. 53:20.652 --> 53:23.923 But of course, uh, uh, Neve Campbell did not agree to do— to be nude 53:24.003 --> 53:27.850 in the film, so there's like, uh, creative camera work, but she's taking her top 53:28.350 --> 53:31.104 off and Billy and her are gonna get down, get down to business up there, 53:31.617 --> 53:34.967 as kids are wont to do. Yeah, so we got that, we got that happening. 53:35.304 --> 53:39.094 Uh, Dewey approaches Gale outside, right, and says like, 53:39.158 --> 53:42.468 hey, there's a, you know, someone said there's like a car down 53:42.968 --> 53:45.295 the road, like in the bush, go check it out, like do you want to 53:45.795 --> 53:49.135 come with me? And this again, like, is it Dewey? Like, 53:49.392 --> 53:52.557 Dewey's still a suspect, right, in our minds, at least in the audience, 53:52.605 --> 53:55.545 for sure. And this is like a little shady, and is he gonna now do 53:56.045 --> 53:58.581 something to Gale, right, whatever? Because I do feel like we have given— been given 53:58.614 --> 54:02.052 no reason to think that Gale could possibly be the killer, right? I mean, 54:02.068 --> 54:04.920 for one thing, the voice on the The phone's obviously male, and even if it 54:05.420 --> 54:08.300 is sort of like adjusted, it sounds very male. So there's not really any women 54:08.800 --> 54:11.880 in this that are ever pointed at, right, as suspects. But could it be Dewey? 54:12.380 --> 54:16.220 I don't know, maybe. Well, so at the same time that, uh, they're walking 54:16.720 --> 54:19.780 down the street, I can't remember what it is, but all the guys at the, 54:20.280 --> 54:23.540 at the, uh, party still who were watching Halloween with Randy decide to get up 54:24.040 --> 54:26.620 and leave. There's something going on at the school or something. I don't remember what 54:27.120 --> 54:30.060 exactly. Oh, the principal! They found the principal. That's right, they found out that the 54:30.560 --> 54:33.060 principal died. And he's like hanging from the football field goalposts or something like that, 54:33.560 --> 54:35.780 right? And so they're all like, oh my God, we gotta go see it. 54:36.280 --> 54:37.810 We gotta go see it. Yeah. And they all— and they were all like, 54:37.820 --> 54:41.580 when they find out the principal's dead, they're all like celebrating. They're cheering. 54:42.080 --> 54:45.780 Wow. Like, brutal, dude. When they— when they first showed the party they 54:46.280 --> 54:50.039 had, like, after he canceled classes, they're playing School's Out by Alice Cooper. It's like, 54:50.539 --> 54:54.040 we need a new song about school being out, even in 20 years later in 54:54.540 --> 54:58.680 1996. Um, so, uh, so Dewey and 54:59.180 --> 55:02.260 Gale end up finding in the bushes a car, and it's Neil Prescott's car, 55:02.760 --> 55:05.970 Sidney's dad's car. Yeah, because they almost get hit by the drunk assholes leaving the 55:06.470 --> 55:09.470 party and they run off the road and kind of, you know, they dive and 55:09.970 --> 55:11.930 Dewey ends up on top of Gale and there's like a moment for them. 55:12.430 --> 55:14.950 And then yeah, they find this car and Dewey's able to recognize quickly. I don't 55:15.450 --> 55:17.150 know if it's something that he already knew what license plate to look for or 55:17.650 --> 55:20.370 whatever, but he recognizes that it's Neil Prescott's car and he's like, oh my God, 55:20.870 --> 55:24.010 Neil's here. Like, that's his first mind. It's not that Neil's in trouble or something 55:24.510 --> 55:27.910 happened to Neil. It's that Neil is here and he's the killer. Because that's the 55:28.410 --> 55:30.979 thing is the sheriff and Dewey have been suspecting, could it be Neil? It's a 55:31.236 --> 55:34.754 1-year anniversary from his wife's rape and murder. And so is it, is it 55:35.254 --> 55:38.208 just, is he snapped finally and he's getting revenge? Like, is that kind of what's 55:38.708 --> 55:41.373 going on? And he probably went through the whole process of being a suspect, 55:41.421 --> 55:45.052 at least for a little while, when his wife was killed. Yes. So the 55:45.552 --> 55:48.892 cops know this guy very well. Exactly. Um, we cut back to the 55:49.392 --> 55:52.394 house, back to Stu's house, where, you know, Billy and Sidney are wrapping up their, 55:52.587 --> 55:56.025 their little session, getting dressed, like, whatever. And, and Sid 55:56.073 --> 55:59.370 still is not— she's not She's not 100% convinced that Billy's not the guy. 55:59.870 --> 56:03.390 So she looks and goes, who'd you call? When, you know, when you got one— 56:03.890 --> 56:05.210 he's like, what do you mean? Like, well, you get one call in jail, 56:05.710 --> 56:08.290 which I don't think is actually true. I think that's like a standard movie sort 56:08.790 --> 56:10.390 of kind of bullshit thing. It's kind of like, if you're a cop, you have 56:10.890 --> 56:12.770 to tell me. Right, yeah, I think it's that kind of thing. But anyway, 56:13.270 --> 56:15.350 regardless, this is, you know, whatever. And he goes, oh, I called my dad. 56:15.850 --> 56:19.180 And she's like, no, like, I saw the sheriff call your dad. 56:19.430 --> 56:22.770 So who'd you call? And he's like, what are you talking about? And she's like, 56:23.270 --> 56:27.150 well, you wouldn't use your one call to call me. like, to pretend, 56:27.650 --> 56:30.130 you know, because of whatever— because they're basically saying, I still think you could be 56:30.630 --> 56:33.870 the killer. Yeah, kind of thing. Uh, and then this is when the 56:34.370 --> 56:38.510 killer shows up, busts in the room, and stabs Billy like several 56:39.010 --> 56:42.250 times, and he's bleeding, and oh my God, he's covered, and she freaks the fuck 56:42.750 --> 56:44.690 out and is able to like get out the window, I think, out on the 56:45.190 --> 56:47.710 roof. She's out on the roof, uh, So I Married an Axe Murderer style. 56:48.210 --> 56:51.590 Yeah, yeah. Um, yeah, and she's out there on the roof, 56:52.090 --> 56:55.050 doesn't really have anywhere to go, but luckily there's like a covered boat. Yeah, 56:55.550 --> 56:58.110 so she jumps down and just kind of softly lands She kind of falls. 56:58.610 --> 57:01.570 I think she like slips over. Yeah, it's— thank God she has like this trampoline-style 57:02.070 --> 57:05.410 boat. Yeah, they're like— yeah, it's crazy. There must be 5,000 cushions 57:05.910 --> 57:07.410 in the back of that thing or else that really would have hurt. But the 57:07.910 --> 57:11.010 boat is in front of the garage, which has the open door and Tatum dead 57:11.510 --> 57:15.010 hanging there. So Sidney sees that, fucking freaking out, 57:15.510 --> 57:19.110 right? Um, I think— does she make her way to the van? No, there's like 57:19.610 --> 57:22.010 a barn or something. She like runs towards like a garage or barn, some other 57:22.510 --> 57:25.430 building that's there, and it's like trying whatever. And that's when Gale returns with the 57:25.930 --> 57:29.721 news van. van and like crashes it. Uh, what does she 57:30.221 --> 57:33.502 crash into? She crashes something. So first I think they're in the van watching the 57:34.002 --> 57:37.172 video. Oh, right, right, right, that's right. So they have this video on tape delay 57:37.252 --> 57:40.985 and it's Gail. And then she's— throughout the movie, Gail is with her cameraman. 57:41.578 --> 57:45.167 Yeah, I don't know the name of the guy, uh, later known for playing 57:45.279 --> 57:48.820 the have you seen my baseball guy in Something About Mary, which he probably would 57:49.320 --> 57:53.098 not be recast in a remake. And then he also played, uh, Dan Doherty 57:53.274 --> 57:56.917 on, uh, Deadwood. Oh, so one of, uh, the main henchmen. 57:57.142 --> 58:00.513 Nice. Um, so they're watching this video and 58:01.013 --> 58:03.869 they're on tape delay, right? They see everyone run out of the house, everyone leaves, 58:03.885 --> 58:07.128 and they don't see that on the video yet. Yeah. And I think they notice, 58:07.401 --> 58:10.725 um, that the killer's behind Randy. Yeah, yeah, 58:10.789 --> 58:14.321 because he's the only one left watching the movie, right? Yeah. And it's 58:14.821 --> 58:17.484 like, dude, he's about to go out, but this is still 30 seconds before. 58:17.773 --> 58:21.274 And really, the killer has made his way out to the van, right? And takes 58:21.370 --> 58:24.760 out the camera. That's right. So he's, he's dead. When Gale ends up coming back 58:25.260 --> 58:27.900 to the van, she sees him dead, and that's when she decides to do her 58:28.400 --> 58:30.620 horrible driving. Well, it's— no, it's more like she gets in and there's like blood 58:31.120 --> 58:34.040 all over the front or whatever. That's right. She uses the windshield wiper and then 58:34.540 --> 58:37.740 he like falls off the roof. Brutal. And then, yeah, then she ends up crashing 58:38.240 --> 58:41.980 the van. That's how that went. Um, and so, but now we're— somebody gets 58:42.480 --> 58:45.800 Dewey's gun. I think Sid— Sidney gets Dewey's gun. 58:46.300 --> 58:48.540 I'm all confused now. Darn it, I just watched this the other day. But like, 58:49.040 --> 58:51.340 Dewey gets stabbed in the back. That's right, right? That's right. He stumbles out of 58:51.840 --> 58:54.230 the van the house having been stabbed in the back. And Sidney goes to kind 58:54.730 --> 58:58.400 of seek refuge in the police Jeep. She's in Stewie's, uh, Cherokee. 58:58.530 --> 59:01.790 And, uh, and, you know, she locks the door and stuff, and she's doing, 59:01.930 --> 59:04.830 okay, well, where's the keys? The visor clearly is where the keys are. And she 59:05.330 --> 59:08.230 looks, there's no keys in the visor, and the killer's outside and kind of dangles 59:08.730 --> 59:11.330 the keys at her and then ducks under. So we had this great scene of 59:11.830 --> 59:14.530 her trying— like, the door lock pops up and then she pops it down. 59:14.590 --> 59:18.530 Again, doesn't work with automatic door locks. Like, there's certain technology that has 59:19.030 --> 59:21.230 ruined things like this. Yeah, you would be able to open all of the locks 59:21.730 --> 59:25.470 super easily today. Like, yeah, yeah. Visually, like, an automatic door lock opening 59:25.970 --> 59:29.270 doesn't look that cool unless it physically, like, pops up and down. For sure. 59:29.770 --> 59:33.210 Um, and, uh, let's see. So she's in there, and then Stu 59:33.710 --> 59:36.750 and, uh, she— what the fuck did 59:37.250 --> 59:40.330 she do? So, so all I remember for sure is, like, somebody gets— somebody gets 59:40.830 --> 59:43.350 a hold of the gun. Sidney gets a hold of the gun eventually. And, 59:43.850 --> 59:47.130 uh, Stu and Randy are both outside saying, that's right, they're the— 59:47.630 --> 59:49.390 he's the killer. No, he's the killer. Like, whatever. Like, pointing at each other. 59:49.410 --> 59:52.750 And Sidney, like, doesn't listen to either of them, just closes the door, locks She's 59:53.250 --> 59:56.410 got the pistol, she's got Dewey's gun. Billy comes down the stairs 59:56.910 --> 59:59.630 stumbling, you know, like, oh, like, but like, oh my God, Billy's alive! Like, 01:00:00.130 --> 01:00:03.030 wow, you know, graphic fall, really good. Good tumble. Tumbles down the stairs and is 01:00:03.530 --> 01:00:06.730 like, oh my God, Sidney, I'm not dead yet, you know, whatever. And, uh, 01:00:07.230 --> 01:00:08.670 he goes to the door and she's like, no, no, no, no, he's out there. 01:00:09.170 --> 01:00:10.910 And she's like, no, no, give me the gun, it's okay, it's okay. So she 01:00:11.410 --> 01:00:13.790 hands the gun over to Billy because now she's seen him get stabbed by the 01:00:14.290 --> 01:00:17.470 killer, so she is 1,000% convinced Billy is not the bad guy. 01:00:18.299 --> 01:00:22.057 And so he opens the door and Randy is there, and Randy comes 01:00:22.153 --> 01:00:25.301 running in, and that's when Billy like turns and like, 01:00:25.366 --> 01:00:28.305 like Randy says something about like, oh my God, he went mad and ran off, 01:00:28.433 --> 01:00:31.453 talking about Stu. And Billy quotes Norman Bates from Psycho and says, 01:00:31.485 --> 01:00:34.954 well, we all go a little mad sometimes, and shoots Randy like in the kind 01:00:35.454 --> 01:00:38.392 of upper chest, the standard, uh, Louis Gossett Jr. Went all the way through. 01:00:38.472 --> 01:00:41.138 Went all the way through, sort of like safe, safe place to get shot. 01:00:41.186 --> 01:00:44.592 So Randy will be okay. Um, but yeah, so now Sidney 01:00:44.656 --> 01:00:48.399 freaks out, Billy like attacks her, and then Stu 01:00:48.431 --> 01:00:51.451 shows up back again, whatever. And now we get kind of the big confession. 01:00:52.029 --> 01:00:55.194 And so there's like all this fake blood everywhere. Billy says it's corn syrup, 01:00:55.242 --> 01:00:57.234 just like they used in Carrie, you know, whatever. 01:00:58.551 --> 01:01:02.085 And they basically confess that like— first, this is one of my issues with 01:01:02.585 --> 01:01:03.836 this movie, that I don't have a lot of them. One of them is like 01:01:04.336 --> 01:01:06.583 this whole thing where Billy makes a big deal about how there's no motive and 01:01:07.083 --> 01:01:10.920 it's so much scarier when there's no motive. Right. Also, I killed 01:01:11.420 --> 01:01:14.336 your mom. because she was sleeping with my dad and broke up my parents. 01:01:14.529 --> 01:01:17.639 Yeah. So I was like, okay, well, that's clearly a motive. Now, I guess the 01:01:18.139 --> 01:01:21.392 idea is that the further killings were just, well, it was fun to kill one 01:01:21.424 --> 01:01:24.470 person. Let's go kill some more. Like, so I guess there is no true motive 01:01:24.970 --> 01:01:28.319 for those. At one point, she asks Stu, what's your motive? 'Cause I have called 01:01:28.819 --> 01:01:31.846 the cops. What are you gonna say? He's like, peer pressure. But basically, 01:01:31.862 --> 01:01:35.967 their idea here is that they are gonna stab each other so that they are 01:01:36.015 --> 01:01:38.709 also injured and can claim, right, that they were also victims. 01:01:39.383 --> 01:01:43.446 But they've got Neil. They've got Sidney's dad. He's like tied up, bandaged over 01:01:43.462 --> 01:01:46.594 the mouth, duct taped, the whole deal. And they're basically gonna frame him. 01:01:46.931 --> 01:01:50.063 They've got his cell phone, his car in the bushes, you know, 01:01:50.207 --> 01:01:52.729 whatever. Like, he's gonna have his hands on the knife, all this kind of stuff, 01:01:52.793 --> 01:01:55.892 and he's gonna kill himself after with the gun after he kills, 01:01:56.471 --> 01:01:59.795 uh, her, basically. Right. So the only people that are gonna survive are Stu 01:02:00.295 --> 01:02:03.938 and Billy. That's their plan. And, you know, they don't have to necessarily explain all 01:02:04.438 --> 01:02:06.186 this stuff, but of course they do because it's standard movie villain stuff. stuff. 01:02:06.667 --> 01:02:09.487 Um, but this is when— if you kill for fun, you have to get off 01:02:09.987 --> 01:02:13.429 on explaining why you did it, right? And Billy goes to stab 01:02:13.813 --> 01:02:16.922 Stu, and they've, they've talked to each other about where to stab and whatever, 01:02:17.018 --> 01:02:19.069 but it hurts, I think, a lot more than either of them were expecting. 01:02:19.245 --> 01:02:22.802 Yeah. Uh, and this is one of, one of Heather's favorite lines in this movie, 01:02:23.267 --> 01:02:26.087 is when Billy turns to ask Stu to do something, he goes, 01:02:26.632 --> 01:02:29.148 Billy, I'm feeling woozy here. 01:02:30.061 --> 01:02:32.545 Like, woozy is just such a funny way to put it. It was good. 01:02:32.945 --> 01:02:36.681 I Stu and Matthew Lillard is bringing like real 01:02:37.247 --> 01:02:40.870 Anthony Kiedis in Point Break energy to like this whole scene. Like, okay, 01:02:40.886 --> 01:02:44.118 that would be a waste of time. Like, I'm just out of 01:02:44.618 --> 01:02:47.946 my fucking mind the way I talk, you know? Like a, like a 01:02:48.446 --> 01:02:52.230 14-year-old trying to do a Jack Nicholson impression or something like that. Or Christian 01:02:52.730 --> 01:02:54.379 Slater, period. Oh, absolutely. 01:02:58.956 --> 01:03:03.237 Um, so, uh, it's— so 01:03:03.737 --> 01:03:06.283 the gun disappears. Like, like Stu goes to get the gun because they're gonna kill 01:03:06.331 --> 01:03:09.795 Sidney, they're gonna do this whole thing, right? Oh, and there at this point there's 01:03:10.295 --> 01:03:13.483 like a sound effect of like the guys who've been stabbed. Yeah, like literally the 01:03:13.563 --> 01:03:16.978 blood like dripping on the floor, which is crazy. So good. 01:03:17.155 --> 01:03:20.458 I was like, oh, that's— that really— because he gets stabbed several times. Like Billy 01:03:20.522 --> 01:03:24.130 takes one. Yep. Uh, in the side, but like he stabs Stu 01:03:24.630 --> 01:03:28.120 like 3 or 4 times. Yeah, way too many times. Way more unnecessary, 01:03:28.620 --> 01:03:30.580 which I think is sort of like Billy's plan all along. For sure. I'm gonna 01:03:31.080 --> 01:03:34.460 kill him as well. Wild card knowing about all your serious shit. Fucking Charlie 01:03:34.960 --> 01:03:38.660 Day over here. Fucking like, um, but yeah, like, uh, so Gale pops 01:03:39.160 --> 01:03:41.620 up with the gun. Yes. They're looking for the gun. They're like, where's the gun? 01:03:42.120 --> 01:03:45.040 And then there's Gale in the door. Yep, exactly right. And she's got the gun 01:03:45.540 --> 01:03:49.060 and she's ready to shoot them and fails to. That's right. Yeah, she just 01:03:49.560 --> 01:03:52.200 like does— has the safety on or whatever. And Billy makes a comment about having 01:03:52.700 --> 01:03:55.428 the safety on, like, is able to get gun back from her. And then he 01:03:55.928 --> 01:03:59.635 does the— one of my favorite evil guy moves is like the Gary Oldman 01:03:59.683 --> 01:04:03.440 in The Professional evil neck crack. Yeah, like where you kind of tilt your 01:04:03.940 --> 01:04:07.309 head and it cracks like 5 times. Great move by Billy, uh, 01:04:07.935 --> 01:04:11.195 or Jimmy, Billy, whatever the fuck. Skeet, uh, 01:04:11.403 --> 01:04:14.871 Skeet, Skeet, Skeet. Um, but they go back to the kitchen. Yeah, 01:04:15.032 --> 01:04:18.484 Sidney and her dad are both gone, and they're like, wait a fuck, now where, 01:04:18.548 --> 01:04:21.840 you know, where, where are they? Kind thing. And so now I 01:04:22.340 --> 01:04:25.520 think— does she call one of them? Like, there's like— she's— or no, the voice 01:04:26.020 --> 01:04:28.040 comes on. She's got the modulator now. Yes. So I don't know if she calls 01:04:28.540 --> 01:04:31.220 them. Yeah, cuz that's right, cuz Stu ends up on the phone and that's when 01:04:31.720 --> 01:04:33.480 she asked him, I have called 911. Stu, what are you gonna tell them your 01:04:33.980 --> 01:04:36.600 motive is? Peer pressure. 01:04:37.100 --> 01:04:40.340 But basically they're like hiding, and then, and then Sidney 01:04:40.840 --> 01:04:44.420 is in the outfit and busts out from like— it looks like store stairs 01:04:44.920 --> 01:04:46.740 to like a basement or something, or maybe a closet. It's something that in the 01:04:47.240 --> 01:04:50.585 hallway and like stabs Billy, I think, with an umbrella. Yeah. That's awesome. 01:04:50.665 --> 01:04:53.823 It's a good move. I mean, I think she heard the story 01:04:53.919 --> 01:04:57.478 about that assassination with like the ricin on the tip of the umbrella, 01:04:57.766 --> 01:05:00.716 and she didn't realize that was a ricinless umbrella, so it was not quite as 01:05:00.812 --> 01:05:03.938 lethal. No, not quite. But still, a nice, nice way to— nice way to get 01:05:04.438 --> 01:05:07.240 at somebody. It's still lethal if you get it deep enough. Yeah, yeah. 01:05:07.785 --> 01:05:10.879 And if you open it from there, that really opens the wound. So, uh, 01:05:11.809 --> 01:05:15.400 so Stu is, uh, She's like struggling with him and 01:05:15.900 --> 01:05:18.820 pushes the TV over. I mean, she also lifts it. Like, 01:05:19.320 --> 01:05:21.980 it's— that is so heavy. Those things are like 90 pounds. Have you ever tried 01:05:22.480 --> 01:05:25.960 to like dispose of one of those? No, never actually. Like, I've let 01:05:26.460 --> 01:05:29.100 movers do it. Like, I can't even like— I remember I had this like, 01:05:29.600 --> 01:05:33.400 it was like 36-inch but like super deep dish. It must have weighed like 350 01:05:33.900 --> 01:05:36.520 pounds. Oh my God. And it moved to too many different houses with me. 01:05:37.020 --> 01:05:39.880 I'm like, what the fuck? This is crazy. So like you said, we need a 01:05:40.380 --> 01:05:43.809 new hashtag for our podcast because we've now seen in 3 different films Yes, 01:05:43.937 --> 01:05:47.389 somebody get a cathode ray tube TV to the face. Yes. 01:05:47.469 --> 01:05:50.247 Well, I know— did Stallone actually take it to the face in Demolition Man, 01:05:50.279 --> 01:05:53.394 or was he just kind of a threat? He swung it around by the cord 01:05:53.490 --> 01:05:57.119 and hit Simon Phoenix with it. Not in the face, right? But he 01:05:57.199 --> 01:06:00.555 did say the very funny, very clever line, you're on TV. Yeah. 01:06:00.732 --> 01:06:04.103 So, so we have CRT television as a weapon. We have it there. We had 01:06:04.603 --> 01:06:07.459 in Grosse Pointe Blank. That's how gross— Grosse Pointe Blank. And here, this is Stu's 01:06:07.539 --> 01:06:10.267 end, is this, because those really are incredibly dangerous. Dangerous once you get inside of 01:06:10.767 --> 01:06:14.642 them. Yeah. Um, but yeah, so, uh, and then we've got one 01:06:14.690 --> 01:06:18.327 last moment here where Gale is back, uh, 01:06:18.519 --> 01:06:21.884 not dead, and she's got the gun again and she shoots Billy. Yes. 01:06:21.980 --> 01:06:24.913 And so now Billy's dead, Stu's dead, Neil and Sidney are alive, 01:06:24.945 --> 01:06:27.397 Gale's alive, Dewey's alive, Randy's alive. 01:06:28.214 --> 01:06:31.723 Everybody else we've met is dead. Basically everybody else who had a speaking 01:06:31.755 --> 01:06:34.864 line except for maybe the sheriff. Like, there's so many bodies in this fucking 01:06:35.364 --> 01:06:38.203 movie. But yeah, and that's, 01:06:38.653 --> 01:06:41.047 that's pretty much how it is. Yeah, I mean, it's, it's like we've got, 01:06:41.063 --> 01:06:44.164 you know, the killers have been— have confessed. Yep. Now they're dead. 01:06:44.742 --> 01:06:48.036 Uh, you know, Gale has got a great set, you know, whatever, 01:06:48.052 --> 01:06:51.250 I don't know, second half of her book about, you know, the actual murder of 01:06:51.346 --> 01:06:54.576 Sidney's mother. Uh, because now, now Billy confessed to 01:06:55.076 --> 01:06:58.015 it and everything, and it's not Cotton Weary or whatever his name is, Liev Schreiber, 01:06:58.159 --> 01:07:01.517 right? Uh, yeah, so there's— that's how the movie ends, and it really is— there's 01:07:01.566 --> 01:07:04.971 no need for an epilogue. No, you know, it's just very clean. I mean, 01:07:05.084 --> 01:07:08.858 like, wire to wire, this movie doesn't 01:07:09.358 --> 01:07:12.842 stray from like what it's trying to do. Like, very, very efficient. So absolutely, 01:07:13.757 --> 01:07:17.034 that is Scream. That's Scream. Yeah, so I'll go ahead and I'll give my notes 01:07:17.534 --> 01:07:20.199 first on it. Like, I, I, like, I really enjoyed this movie. I haven't seen 01:07:20.247 --> 01:07:22.801 it as many times as I feel like I should have over the years, 01:07:22.833 --> 01:07:25.403 but like I've made up for it. I think over the last like 5 years 01:07:25.903 --> 01:07:28.550 I've watched it like 3 times or something. Uh, it's It's just so much fun. 01:07:28.598 --> 01:07:32.063 Like I said at the opening of this, it's a great kind of meta parody—not 01:07:32.563 --> 01:07:35.640 quite parody, but definitely it's like meta about its genre—while also being 01:07:35.673 --> 01:07:38.576 just a tremendous example of the genre. It's a really good slasher flick. 01:07:39.266 --> 01:07:41.897 You know, it's not the original Nightmare on Elm Street. It's not, you know, 01:07:42.715 --> 01:07:45.859 Halloween. I mean, it doesn't quite go up there to me with some 01:07:46.359 --> 01:07:49.870 of the absolute greats of the genre, but it's a ton of fun, 01:07:50.030 --> 01:07:52.982 and it really is great. I really enjoyed it. I'm gonna give it a four 01:07:53.482 --> 01:07:56.144 out of five. I think that's where I'm at with Scream. Scream. Um, super enjoyable. 01:07:56.224 --> 01:07:59.484 Obviously, like you said, spawned sequels and spawned, uh, you know, the, 01:07:59.565 --> 01:08:02.600 the whole Scary Movie franchise really kind of came about because of this movie, 01:08:02.696 --> 01:08:05.121 or at least got the green light because of it. And then also there's stuff 01:08:05.621 --> 01:08:07.353 like I Know What You Did Last Summer and other movies that came out around 01:08:07.853 --> 01:08:09.939 the same time that, you know, there was this horror renaissance in the '90s. 01:08:10.035 --> 01:08:12.749 Like, yeah, I just feel like the early '80s and like the mid to late 01:08:13.249 --> 01:08:15.881 '90s had really fantastic horror movies, and in between those two it was like, 01:08:16.587 --> 01:08:18.755 eh, there was a couple of gems here and there, but like a lot of 01:08:19.255 --> 01:08:21.694 kind of misses. So yeah, so I'm a 4 out of 5 on Scream. 01:08:22.194 --> 01:08:24.713 Scream. All right. Yeah, the late '80s were kind of like, oh, we're getting sick 01:08:25.213 --> 01:08:28.550 of Freddy and Jason. Yeah, a little bit. But yeah, this was such a renaissance 01:08:28.631 --> 01:08:32.051 of the genre. Yeah. So having only seen this one time, 01:08:32.324 --> 01:08:35.631 a lot of it wasn't like super familiar to me, but there were different parts. 01:08:35.937 --> 01:08:39.132 I was like, oh yeah. And I really 01:08:39.164 --> 01:08:42.183 enjoy— I love talking about this with you, by the way. This was good. 01:08:43.162 --> 01:08:46.855 And I think this is one where the convo bumps an extra half point for 01:08:47.355 --> 01:08:50.526 you. Um, but yeah, I don't know like what you would want from this movie 01:08:50.558 --> 01:08:54.149 that it doesn't really give you. The actors are fine, like nobody's 01:08:54.165 --> 01:08:56.859 really that good in it, but they don't need to be really. 01:08:57.051 --> 01:09:00.610 Yeah. Um, and then the little plot holes like the garage 01:09:00.738 --> 01:09:04.553 door thing. What one I had a problem with is that, uh, when you 01:09:04.569 --> 01:09:09.074 go to jail, how they take your shoelaces but let you keep your voice modulator. 01:09:09.699 --> 01:09:12.809 No, but that's the thing is it wasn't Billy calling from there, that was Stu 01:09:13.066 --> 01:09:16.128 calling her. Oh, because they had two guys. So that was Sidney being like, 01:09:16.192 --> 01:09:18.790 I'm suspicious of this, but really, yeah, no, he didn't have That in jail. 01:09:19.040 --> 01:09:22.760 That was stupid. Okay, that makes much more sense because I was like, what the 01:09:23.260 --> 01:09:26.600 fuck? The cops in this town are garbage. Um, but yeah, 01:09:27.100 --> 01:09:30.260 a lot of fun, and it didn't have too much other than the shitty 01:09:30.760 --> 01:09:34.380 Don't Fear the Reaper song. There wasn't a lot of like '90s stuff that irritated 01:09:34.880 --> 01:09:37.900 me. Sometimes I'll be like, yeah, this fucking sucked. It sucked when we were kids 01:09:38.400 --> 01:09:40.880 and we thought we were— it was cool. But this is a blast of a 01:09:41.380 --> 01:09:43.640 movie, and if you haven't seen it, yeah, this is a— it's a fresh horror 01:09:44.140 --> 01:09:47.274 movie. It holds up very well for being 30 years old, you know, other than 01:09:47.290 --> 01:09:50.129 the technology stuff, but that's necessary to make it work anyway. Yep. 01:09:50.658 --> 01:09:54.139 Um, this was a great, uh, a great choice, Steve, and a great way 01:09:54.639 --> 01:09:57.908 to end Shocktoberfest II. Scream is a 4 out of 5 for me as well. 01:09:57.988 --> 01:10:01.469 So that's 8 out of 10 from the 2 dads on Scream. And as 01:10:01.565 --> 01:10:04.997 we are turning the calendar from October to November, next week is of course the 01:10:05.013 --> 01:10:08.526 first Wednesday in November. We're leaving Shocktoberfest II: 01:10:08.558 --> 01:10:12.407 Electric Boogaloo behind. That's it. Uh, we have— last 01:10:12.907 --> 01:10:16.259 year for November we did Cagevember and we did all Nicolas Cage movies. And this 01:10:16.759 --> 01:10:19.952 year, instead of doing like an actor-focused theme month, we're doing 01:10:20.452 --> 01:10:23.613 something a little different where we are going with another holiday theme month. 01:10:24.031 --> 01:10:27.306 And I decided we would call it Feast Mode, 01:10:27.820 --> 01:10:31.754 partly to give homage and to honor my favorite 01:10:32.254 --> 01:10:35.415 NFL player who never played on the 49ers. As a lifelong 49er fan— Who is 01:10:35.463 --> 01:10:38.096 this? Most of my favorite players all at least had some amount of time on 01:10:38.596 --> 01:10:41.998 the Niners. Marshawn Lynch. Cal great, Oakland native, 01:10:42.335 --> 01:10:44.728 my favorite player of all time who never put on the red and gold. 01:10:45.306 --> 01:10:48.694 Uh, he was of course called Beast Mode. So this is Feast Mode. And what 01:10:49.194 --> 01:10:52.355 is the feast of November? It is Thanksgiving. So we're gonna do Thanksgiving movies 01:10:52.611 --> 01:10:55.999 all November long. This was a little harder to do. There just aren't as many 01:10:56.064 --> 01:10:59.660 of them as there are, dude. Christmas movies and stuff. Go to pick horror movies. 01:10:59.917 --> 01:11:03.209 It's like easy, sweet. Christmas movies is fine. Yeah, but this 01:11:03.709 --> 01:11:05.969 was like a little tougher, but I think we got 4 4 really good ones 01:11:06.469 --> 01:11:10.135 that people are really gonna enjoy. Very nice. And, and keeping with like the theme 01:11:10.635 --> 01:11:12.843 of our podcast where we're kind of all over the place, we're not trying to 01:11:13.343 --> 01:11:16.112 be like a horror and action movie podcast, even though that's the kind of stuff 01:11:16.612 --> 01:11:20.134 that, like, you know, to quote Curly Bill, that's our kind of stuff. 01:11:20.759 --> 01:11:24.605 Um, but it's fun to find these movies that are like, that hit different parts 01:11:25.105 --> 01:11:28.643 of you. And, uh, and I picked one for Feast Mode that I had never 01:11:29.143 --> 01:11:33.101 seen before. Oh, interesting. I never saw it before. And, uh, through my Google 01:11:33.117 --> 01:11:36.088 search of what movie takes place at Thanksgiving, like, 01:11:36.313 --> 01:11:38.817 because I had one in my head which is coming in a few weeks, 01:11:38.833 --> 01:11:42.221 but I didn't have the other one. And, uh, and I thought, 01:11:42.430 --> 01:11:46.042 oh, like, I heard a lot of great things about this. They made a sequel 01:11:46.542 --> 01:11:49.944 of it. Uh, it stars people that are very well regarded and stuff and who 01:11:49.960 --> 01:11:53.572 I've really enjoyed in other, uh, work. Yeah. And it's so different than 01:11:54.072 --> 01:11:57.121 anything we've done, but I think now that I'm closer to the age of the 01:11:57.621 --> 01:12:00.814 stars than I was when it came out. Sure. Uh, 01:12:01.456 --> 01:12:04.747 I think maybe it would be the time to go to Minnesota and 01:12:05.247 --> 01:12:08.601 hang out with a couple of grumpy old men. Yes. So we're gonna 01:12:09.101 --> 01:12:12.519 watch, uh, we're gonna watch Grumpy Old Men from '93, I think. '93. 01:12:12.695 --> 01:12:15.553 Okay, 1993. Walter Matthau, Jack Lemmon, 01:12:16.067 --> 01:12:19.423 Burgess Meredith. Yeah. Um, I got Ann-Margret, 01:12:19.439 --> 01:12:22.072 Ann-Margret, Darryl Hannah. This is one of those movies that I'll just tell you, 01:12:22.089 --> 01:12:25.157 like, I actually watched this movie several times when I was younger. 01:12:25.607 --> 01:12:28.419 I was into like Neil Simon and The Odd Couple. I used to watch The 01:12:28.919 --> 01:12:30.958 Odd Couple TV show on Nick at Nite, so I was a big Lemon Matthau 01:12:31.006 --> 01:12:34.284 guy. Uh, and so I saw this movie several times throughout high school and stuff, 01:12:34.621 --> 01:12:37.900 even though it really was not targeted at us at all. It's a movie where 01:12:38.400 --> 01:12:42.190 like everybody in this movie is somebody. This cast is like all somebodies. 01:12:42.559 --> 01:12:46.255 Kevin Pollak in a small role. Daryl Hannah. Even Christopher McDonald, 01:12:46.271 --> 01:12:49.830 Shooter McGavin, shows up at the end. For like 2 minutes. 01:12:50.170 --> 01:12:54.010 But yeah, that's awesome. So for our first Feast Mode movie, our first Thanksgiving movie 01:12:54.510 --> 01:12:57.510 of the year, we're gonna watch Grumpy Old Men, go up to Wabasha, Minnesota and 01:12:58.010 --> 01:13:00.470 hang out with those 2. I'm super looking forward to it because I did see 01:13:00.970 --> 01:13:04.390 it several times as a youth. I don't think I've— it's probably 01:13:04.890 --> 01:13:07.970 been 25 years maybe since I've seen it. So very excited to watch Grumpy Old 01:13:08.470 --> 01:13:12.230 Men. And thank you so much for choosing it. I think that's awesome. Heck yeah. 01:13:12.730 --> 01:13:14.790 That's a wrap. If you like what you hear, please consider heading over to Apple 01:13:15.290 --> 01:13:18.247 or Spotify and leaving us a 5-star review. It helps new folks find the show. 01:13:18.633 --> 01:13:21.925 Be sure to check out our website at twodads1movie.com. It's the number 2 and the 01:13:22.425 --> 01:13:25.539 number 1. There you can explore the movies we've covered and even get sneak previews 01:13:26.039 --> 01:13:28.542 of upcoming episodes. Once again, this has been Scream, 01:13:28.896 --> 01:13:32.044 another episode of 2 Dads 1 Movie. I'm Steve. And I'm Nic. Thank you so 01:13:32.060 --> 01:13:33.778 much for listening, and we'll catch you next week. Thanks,