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Well, it's a well-known fact, Sonny Jim, that there's a secret society of

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the 5 wealthiest people in the world known as the Pentaverate,

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who run everything in the world, including the newspapers,

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and meet triannually at a secret country mansion in Colorado

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known as the Meadows. So who's in this Pentaverate?

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The Queen, the Vatican, the Gettys, the Rothschilds,

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I'm Colonel Sanders before he went tits up. I hated

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the Colonel with his wee beady eyes and that smug

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look on his face. Oh, you're gonna buy my chicken.

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Oh. Dad, how can you hate the Colonel?

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Because he puts an addictive chemical in his chicken that makes you crave it fortnightly,

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smart arse.

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It's 2 Dads 1 Movie.

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It's the podcast where 2 middle-aged dads sit around and shoot

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the shit about the movies of the '80s and '90s. Your hosts,

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Steve Paulo and Nic Briana.

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Hello, everybody. Welcome to another episode of 2 Dads, 1 Movie. I'm Steve.

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And I'm Nic. And today we are talking about the 1993 Mike Myers

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cult classic, So I Married an Axe Murderer.

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This was my pick for us. And this is one of those movies that I

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think I definitely saw this not in the theater, not that early on, but I

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was high school probably when I first saw it. And it kind of came and

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went. I think it was maybe even like after Austin Powers came out, or you

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know, I would have gone back to watch this kind of thing when you're trying

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to complete the Mike Myers catalog. I love Wayne's World and Wayne's World 2,

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and then Austin Powers like blew me away the first time I saw it,

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you know. And and then it was like, oh, he did this other movie?

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Oh, okay. And again, like this is another one that for some reason I really

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feel like registered with theater kids, and so I feel like yeah, like like hit

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that. I think it was the beat poetry stuff or something, whatever. So I remember

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watching it and enjoying it, but like not thinking much of it. Just kind of

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like, okay, cool. That wasn't bad, like, you know, the kind of thing. Right.

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Then I met my wife. We've been together, oh God,

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since, you know, 2005, I think, at this point. So, you know, 21 years.

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And this is a huge movie for her. Like,

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she loves this movie. Her and her dad used to like quote this movie back

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and forth to each other. And it like, you know, became like, she's like,

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we got the Piper down. Like, it became like shorthand within her family.

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And so I was like, well, I guess I better watch it again. I mean,

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like, whatever. And so watching with her a few times in my early 20s,

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it was like, oh, I get it now. It's like, it's something about like watching

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it with somebody that like was laughing at every weird little joke.

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Yeah. Made it like really hit for me. So it's become a movie that I

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absolutely adore, but it definitely didn't start that way. Uh, it took time and

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kind of the right, the right viewing partner to really kind of latch me into

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it. So Nic, what's your history with, uh, Axe Murderer? Yeah, so I

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told you before the pod that this is one kind of like you with,

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uh, You know, with like Bloodsport or certain ones we've talked about in the past

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where in your head you're like, oh yeah, I've definitely seen this. Like, I know

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that, I know that movie because you know stuff from it. You would understand references

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about it. And then when I watched this, I'm like, dude, I don't know if

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I have watched this entire thing, uh, all the way through before.

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I knew a lot of the jokes, like, you know, same as you, like friends

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would quote certain things. Like, it's a fun voice to do, the dad, the Scottish

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voice. I'm actually psyched to be doing this pod with you because you were the

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king of voices and this is good. Other than Stallone, this might

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be like one of the best voices we have. On the podcast. So yeah,

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I knew it from friends and I think I'd, I definitely dipped in and seen

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parts of it, probably like the phenomenon of the

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pregame movie. Okay. Like we talked about, you know, put something on and

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then we're going to go out to the bars where we have all these movies

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where I am so familiar with the first half hour of it, but I couldn't

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tell you how it ends. Okay. You know, so this might be one of those

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where it was like on early because there's chunks of it that I knew.

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But yeah, watching it through, I'm like, oh, this is my first complete viewing,

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I think. Okay, that's all right. Well, I think that's a good thing. Hopefully you

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enjoyed your time. We'll get into it, obviously. and find out exactly whether

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you enjoyed your time with the movie or not. But let's jump into the facts

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and get this stuff out of the way, the basics and all that on So

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I Married an Axe Murderer. The film was released on July 30th,

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1993 with a PG-13 rating and a running time of 93

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minutes, directed by Thomas Schlamme and written by Robbie

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Fox. The movie stars Mike Myers, Nancy Travis, and Anthony LaPaglia.

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Scores, not particularly great, but also not like bottom of the barrel.

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Mm-hmm. We got a 55% on Rotten Tomatoes, which is Rotten,

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they don't give you that fresh whole tomato icon until you hit 60%.

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Okay, the threshold there. So it is a you know essentially you have to get

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a D minus. Yeah, you do. You got to at least get that D minus

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to pass the class. This is a fail, but close. It was a good effort.

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I think maybe most of the Rotten Tomatoes critics are saying similarly IMDb

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a 6.5, which is like well below the seven that kind of marks a good

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movie, but above we've seen some with like fours and fives as their rating,

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and right that's pretty. It's not a Halloween three season.

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Yeah, exactly. And then Cisco. Siskel and Ebert,

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2 thumbs down from Siskel and Ebert on this movie. There were no awards,

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anything that I could find, certainly nothing listed on the IMDb page, which is what

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I usually use as the source of truth. And maybe partly because on

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a $20 million budget, which none of the actors

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in this movie earned much money, there's no way, right? Because Myers was not a

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draw yet, really. Yeah, unless they had to give him something because of the

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popularity of Wayne's World. But it is like— Probably very little. He wasn't like a

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huge, huge star yet. This came out the same year as Wayne's World 2,

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I think. I can't remember exactly. It was '91, '92,

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'93 is like all these movies kind of together. So he definitely hadn't like blown

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up in that sense. Right, for sure. But he did get to play 2 roles.

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I'm sure under SAG rules probably means you get more money, I suppose. Where the

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hell did $20 million go? Like, this just doesn't look like a $20 million movie

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at all. Did they hire a very like Shel Silverstein as the poetry

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consultant or something like that? Did the Claremont in Berkeley charge them a ton of

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money to film the exterior? Like, it's bizarre. Yeah,

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you don't really see it that much. And it's just like, definitely I would like

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a line item audit of this budget because I don't really This and Troop Beverly

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Hills. I think that's exactly where all the money went. Okay, uh,

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unfortunately the box office did not do well. It earned $11.5 million. That's 0.58

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times what it cost. Obviously a huge flop when it comes to the box office

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numbers. Uh, I understand, Nic, you might have a couple of additional points to bring

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up here. Yeah, so I was just like learning a little bit about this movie

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and the production because it did definitely seem to me

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like it's different than other Mike Myers stuff that we saw, where a lot of

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it is like these self-created characters that he has. Right. And he definitely had influence

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on this film, but it wasn't like originally made for him. So this is based

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on a script that had been kind of going around since the '80s, written by

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this Robby Fox guy who gets credit for writing. Yeah. And it was supposed to

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be more of like a New York City, like Jewish comedian

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ax murderer thing. It was described as like a Woody Allen meets Hitchcock

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kind of situation. And they talked about like Billy Crystal and Garry Shandling and

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Albert Brooks and stuff starring in this. But of course, like over the years it

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gets moved so much and it ends ends up being one of those scripts that's

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like, we got to do something with this, we haven't been able to attach anyone

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to it. And they finally get Mike Myers involved, and there's all these changes,

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you know, obviously the Scottish thing, that's like his thing. So they're changing the,

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um, the origin and the city and stuff. But I guess despite all this,

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uh, the original writer still has like the sole writing credit,

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even though, you know, the scripts are vastly, vastly different.

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Um, and then the other thing is that the director Thomas Schlamme and Mike Myers

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did not get along during this production, and, you know, at some point weren't speaking

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to each other. I've heard heard this about Mike Myers, that he is, uh,

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difficult. Yes, I have heard the same thing. Yeah, and you know, so that makes,

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that makes sense. But, uh, good on him for being difficult in his second movie.

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Like, if you told me Mike Myers got difficult after Austin Powers

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and then was slightly, slightly humbled by The Love Guru,

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yeah, I would have expect— I would have accepted that as a through line.

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But like, to be ballsy and to be kind of like, you know, uh,

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to be a prima donna on set, yes, at this stage in your career is

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like, bro, it's really funny. It's like, I was in the Sprocket sketch, do you

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know who So

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yeah, I thought that was interesting, and it kind of, you know, like why it

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made certain things make sense, uh, in this movie, right? Because there are parts of

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it where you're like, oh, this is probably from a cobbled-together thing.

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It's not like one, one idea from the brain of Mike Myers. So I thought

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that was some interesting stuff to start us off. Yeah. Um, yeah, so that's the

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facts. And, uh, you want to get us started off on the movie here?

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Absolutely. So, uh, this starts off— this is kind of one of my favorite types

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of opening. It's actually very similar to a movie we saw a few weeks ago,

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The Birdcage. which starts off with We Are Family.

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I think that's— Yeah. It's not the Pointer Sisters. Who is it? Sister Sledge.

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Sister Sledge. Thank you. I knew it was something like that. Yeah, and then we

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fly over the ocean and into Miami and then onto Ocean Avenue in South

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Beach, right? Well, this is very similar. We start off with The Laws, There She

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Goes, a song we will hear not once more in this movie, but twice more

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after this. 3 whole times do we get this music cue. But we're sort of

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zooming in over the bay towards like the Ferry Building in San Francisco.

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Just beautiful. And obviously, you know, I grew up here. I know you've lived here

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a long time. And it's always fun to watch these movies where they're set and

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especially like a pre-tech boom San Francisco,

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right? Yes, for sure. Like sneakers and Pacific Heights and stuff. And it's like,

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you know, you get this version of San Francisco that for some reason to me

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always feels much more Italian than what San Francisco

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is today. There's something just very Italian about San Francisco of like the '70s,

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'80s, and '90s. And I can't quite put my finger on it, but there's that.

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So we're zooming in and we end up seeing a bunch of like kind of

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the San Francisco skyline, Well, the song plays and then there's a cut. It doesn't

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go smoothly in, but we then cut to, uh, Rhodes Cafe,

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which is like a coffee shop and sort of poetry jazz nightclubby

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thing, but like very hipster, very early '90s, very anti-grunge.

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This feels like a group of people— It is weird. Yeah, it is this like

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Gen X, like the non-grunge Gen X group. Like the people

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in this movie and the people in Singles would have hated each other. For sure.

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Like, they would not have gotten along at all. They wouldn't. They would have

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hated each other in the way that the guys in Swingers

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who had the gun confrontation in the parking lot hated each other. Like,

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they'd be playing NHL, you know, '92, I guess, in this

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movie. But, uh, but yeah, it's like they don't know how similar they

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are, and the reasons they hate each other are so surface level. So surface level.

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But yeah, they're, uh, totally agree with that. This place,

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um, Rhodes, is a, uh, it's a real location in

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North Beach in San Francisco. It's called Or at least most recently

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was called the Vesuvio Cafe. Oh, okay. It's still there. Nice. Because we definitely

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spotted this as somewhere we'd been before. That was interesting. Yeah, I kind of was

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thinking that because I did not spend a lot of time in San Francisco in

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my 20s. A lot of people, you know, who lived even out here in the

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East Bay like would, but I, you know, I would go to Oakland and I

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would, and I would spend more time in the East Bay growing up and not

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really go out to SF. But I thought to myself, man, this is the kind

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of place, like looking at it and seeing the people in it, I'm like,

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sure, I was 13 when this movie came out, so it wasn't exactly the target

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audience then, but 10 years after that, I absolutely would have been down to,

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like, hang in a place like this. Like, what a— what a cool fucking hang

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that place did look like. It is the Gen X version of the,

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um, the Foot Clan secret lair in the Ninja Turtles

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movie, where it's like all skate ramps and free cigarette machines and stuff. This is

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like, oh, this is what you do. Everyone's got interesting clothes and

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they fucking have stupid glasses and we're drinking coffee and smoking and,

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like, just seemed like a good-ass time. Absolutely. It always makes me think of,

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like, the way that the Emporium in Dazed and Confused fits Texas. as teenagers

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perfectly. This is that, but for San Francisco 20-somethings. Yes.

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Otherwise, they're perfect mirrors of each other. Right, right.

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Okay, so we go and work, and it's one of the— the second greatest,

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in my opinion, second greatest follow shot in the history of cinema is following this

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cappuccino cup. Of course, the best being Henry and Karen

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going into the Copa, right? That's the best follow shot. But the second best is

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this cup of cappuccino making its way to the dishwasher, getting filled back up,

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and then getting out onto the floor and ending up in Mike Myers' hands.

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And this is Charlie McKenzie, who is our main character, our protagonist, our hero of

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our story. Uh, and he makes a couple of funny little jokes. I mean,

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you know, funny, not funny. You can kind of like— it's Mike Myers. They're very

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Mike Myers jokes. It's very Mike Myers. And there, there is a Mike Myers through

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line. And like any of his ridiculous characters, whatever accent he

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assigns to him, he has a certain type of like sarcastic humor

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that, that is like present here and is still present in probably Shrek 5,

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right? You know, exactly. Um, absolutely. Yeah. So he gets his cappuccino.

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I will say The hello thing does not fucking do it for

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me at all. I don't like it. And I feel like it infringes on your

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hello that you do at the beginning of this podcast. And I only

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have one hello guy in my life, Steve, and it's you. Well, thank you so

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much. I actually ripped off a couple of fantasy football podcasters who— a

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combination of— there's one guy who would start off and go like,

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hello, everybody. So I don't do that.

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I do a very toned-down version of that. And then what is it? Paul Scheer

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in for How Did This Get Made does like,

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hello, people of Earth, is how he starts. Oh, nice. So mine is sort of

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like a similar— I'm obviously trying to greet the audience, but, you know, like my

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own way of doing it. But, but it's more about— I always think I've realized

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in hearing back our episodes, I go like, 2 dads, 1 movie. That's kind

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of like, I'm not sure what the hell's going on there. It's good, but you

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get a rhythm and then in your head, that's just how it goes forever.

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Exactly. So it never changed. So sitting next to Charlie is his best buddy

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Tony, who is dressed like a pimp. most insane,

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like, huggy bear. Yeah, like he says, he's seriously dressed like he

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was one of the guys on, uh, VH1's The Pickup Artist. Oh my

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God. You know, where they have these guys wear like fur hats and go like

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insult women until one of them gives them their phone number. Like,

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he has this crazy look, but they do point it out, you know, and he

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is actually an undercover cop, you know. It's— but it's— here's

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the thing though. Yeah, like, I don't— I don't— this strains credulity.

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Like, the initial kind of joke of like He would wear that in

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1993 and actually think he's being hip. Like it's so kind of unbelievable.

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He's supposed to be clueless, right? He is. But like, come on.

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Yeah. To me, it goes a couple of steps too far. But but you know,

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like you said, to the credit of the movie, the other character Charlie calls him

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out. Like, did you look like a moron? You look ridiculous, right? But he is

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dressed. Yeah, fur and spirit Halloween Jamiroquai costume. There you go.

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Yeah, exactly. There is a funny moment here where where you know he's Tony's talking

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about how he asked Charlie about his girlfriend. Oh, we broke up. And are you

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gonna do a You're gonna do a poem about her. There's all this back and

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forth, but he asks him to, like, name why he dumped previous girlfriends,

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and Charlie gets down to one where he doesn't have anything better than, she smelled

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like soup, which is something that always makes me laugh. She smelled exactly like vegetable

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soup, uh, because that would be pretty gross. Better than clam chowder,

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but yeah, still, still, um, concerning. Yeah, I guess that's true. Uh,

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yeah, there's not a good soup that you can just smell like, I think.

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And, and unless there's some, like, ginger, like one of those healing,

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like, Eastern medicine soups that's almost like a medicine. Maybe if

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somebody— if I met somebody who smelled like chicken tortilla soup, I might not mind.

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Yeah, yeah, sounds a little— ladies, work on your soup smells.

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Um, so, so Charlie gets on stage to do his like

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beat poem and stuff, and this isn't— it's like not an open mic. It's clearly

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something that he's a regular at. People are like excited to see what he's— it's

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like a scheduled thing. Like, that's his slot to come up because even the band,

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there's a jazz trio, right? And, and they know kind of how to play to

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his beat, or, or, or they play the same kind of tune. He does it

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too, but like, the point is they've worked together. Clearly this is not like a

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random rockaoke kind of thing or whatever, you know, like rockaroki,

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whatever they call that shit. And he's got like a slideshow going on behind him

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too. So as he's going through his like, woman, whoa man,

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uh, which is funny. It's a funny like play on,

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you know, the beat poetry, slam poetry style, uh,

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although there's not like a regular one really that it

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shows in this. No. Because a guy who's like about to start, but then it

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doesn't really show his— Yeah, we see, we see this guy intro. He's got like

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curly red hair and he talks about how this is a poem about the aliens

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who brought me on their ship and who I, you know, enacted great destruction upon.

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Yeah, what I— while fleeing or whatever. Uh, and then it says autobiographical and it's

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kind of like hahaha. But then we cut to the conversation between Charlie and Tony.

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We don't hear anything about that, but it's clear that he is far weirder than

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Charlie. So Charlie gets up there and it's almost like he's He is the

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like guy off the street for this crowd. Yes. You know what I mean?

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He's like the normal one. So, um, so yeah, so he does this poem about

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his ex-girlfriend. She stole his cat. That's, uh, he's convinced that she stole his cat.

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Uh, we then cut to, uh, the next day and Charlie

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goes to a butcher called Meats of the World. And, uh— Is this a real

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type of store? 'Cause I feel like that would be kind of an awesome place

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to browse. I mean, why wouldn't it be? Isn't it, isn't that kind of what

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most butcher shops kind of are? I mean, in a sense. I mean, I guess,

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I guess what they wanted to do with this was say, yeah, it's a butcher

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and yeah, they'd have haggis. Right, right, because that's gonna be a rare thing.

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So you're not gonna have just a Scottish butcher. So we made it

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a global thing. I don't think anybody would buy that, that,

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you know, in the United States, maybe Boston could have enough Scottish

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folks to like support like a full Scottish butcher. You know, Little Scotland in San

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Francisco, you know, the Glasgow District. Like I said, Italians,

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a lot of Italians in the '90s. Yeah,

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so Charlie's there and he goes to pick up the haggis from the

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woman working at the butcher shop. Very cute,

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younger woman, very busy. They're not really chatting too much. No, her name's

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Harriet. Little connection. This time she's actually not that busy. This one, I don't think

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there's anybody else in the shop. Oh, okay. They're chatting a little bit, but you

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know, there's like a flirtatiousness, but neither of them, you know, really kind of says

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anything, kind of whatever. I'm pretty sure this is the first time you'll notice it,

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and you'll see it throughout the entire movie. She has a Band-Aid on the tip

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of a finger on her left hand. It is never explained. It is never mentioned.

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I don't know if that's just because Nancy tracks herself with a knife. But I

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mean, but then, then I feel like there could have been something mentioned. Why does

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she— I mean, the movie takes place over months and she still has this Band-Aid

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on the entire time. Very strange, but something I noticed. Uh, this could be like

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a Lisa Left Eye Lopez type or a Nelly type thing.

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Nelly, exactly. Yeah, could be a vanity Band-Aid.

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So Charlie's here to pick up a haggis because he's going over to his parents'

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house, uh, for dinner and he's gonna bring it as like a gift or whatever.

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Uh, and so, you know, so he buys the haggis and then we cut to

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his parents' house. Looks like maybe they live out in like the Sunset. or somewhere

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near Balboa Park, like that kind of part. That beautiful house would be $3.5 million

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today. Absolutely. Multi, multi, multi-million dollars for a house like that in

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San Francisco. But there are areas of SF,

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if you're not familiar with San Francisco, that very much look like suburbs. The actual

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downtown is still off in the distance, but you're just in a flat— streets of

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rows of houses, and that's kind of what it looks like. So they're there,

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and we meet the parents. We meet Stuart McKenzie, played also by Mike Myers.

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We meet— I can't remember her name— May. May McKenzie is his mother, played by

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the late Brenda Fricker, RIP. Brenda. She passed recently.

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Pigeon lady in Home Alone 2. Home Alone 2, and a handful of other really

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great roles, actually. Uh, good stuff. And, uh, and for some reason

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Tony's already there, which I always think is a little strange, right? Because it's obviously

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like he's been invited over as well. And clearly, I think the idea is Charlie

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and Tony like grew up together, right? Right. So like he, he's practically at

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home, right, at the, at the Mackenzies. So yeah, you could picture Tony drinking milk

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straight from the carton out of, uh, Charlie's parents' fridge and getting yelled at

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for it. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, Tony's exactly who I think— Tony, use a glass!

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What I think of, uh, of the San Francisco '80s and '90s. It's this guy.

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If this was about Tony's parents, yeah, it might have been more authentic. Uh,

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one thing I do want to say, I don't know if this counts, but I

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feel like Mike Myers's haircut throughout this entire film, very pumpkin pie minus

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a slice. He has a pumpkin pie haircut with one slice taken out.

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Because the part does help the, the extreme pumpkin pie-ness. But you're not wrong,

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it's got— it's— yeah, he is a bit of a— It's very specific. Mike Myers

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had the look of a little boy. He still does. Like, he looks— he has

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gray hair now and he looks like a little boy with gray hair. It's wild.

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Still looks like Simon sitting in that bathtub. Oh, I have

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one make it look like an accident type line coming out of

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Charlie's dad where he's talking about like, oh, they're gonna

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watch the Celtic game, I think, right? Yeah,

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yeah. And he says the soccer game's about to begin. Would he say soccer?

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He would not have. Probably not. No, but they had to change this for American

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audiences. Exactly. He would have said football or footy or something like that. Yeah,

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or even just the match, like the match is also The

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house is funny. They have like a Scottish wall of fame. They have all these

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black and white photos of famous Scottish people. And it's not just like family

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members of— oh no, it's like Sean Connery. Richard Attenborough, I think, is up there

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or something like that. Yeah. And there's a great line here too when Tony and

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Stuart are chatting, whatever, and Tony's like, so you were telling

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me about this group of people that runs the world? And he goes, that's right,

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they're called the Pentaverate. And he's like, well, who's in this Pentaverate? He's like,

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the Queen, the Gettys, the Rothschilds, the Vaticans, and Colonel Sanders before

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he went tits on fire. And it's just a very funny thing. It's probably gonna

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be the opening, the opening scene. Um, it's a, it's a funny character

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trait for his parents that they're both like Weekly World News,

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like National Enquirer. And this is like that Weekly World

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News. I think it still exists, but it was always like crazy shit, the most

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like pre-Photoshop. So it was someone with an X-Acto knife who was making these versions

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of like these weird hybrids and stuff. So yeah, the InfoWars of the

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'90s was definitely, uh, the parents are into. Yeah, the sad part about this is

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that May and Stuart would be huge Fox News people if they— if this all

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moved 30 years into the future. Oh, for sure. Yeah, yeah, major Fox News types.

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And, uh, and May was talking about how, uh, she's— she's not eating because

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she's losing weight with, uh, Garth Brooks's juice diet. So— She's

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about the juice. Yeah, shout out to suspected serial killer Garth Brooks,

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speaking of Weekly World News. That's right. So in— so— so May gets

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the paper for Charlie, and, and, you know, she's talking about— which is the Weekly

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World News— and she's talking about this Mrs. X You know, it's like, oh,

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look at this, Mrs. X, you know. And it lists 3, uh,

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women. Mrs. X apparently is this unknown killer who marries men and then

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kills them like on their wedding night, or at least on their honeymoon, like very,

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very quickly. And it mentions, uh, what the, the information we get right

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now is her first husband was a lounge singer in Atlantic City, then another was

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a Russian martial arts expert— that was how they put it— and the

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last is a plumber named Ralph Elliott. So that's— those are the pieces of information.

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Of course, you know, Charlie's like, I don't don't give a shit about this,

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Mom. That's the Weekly World News. Who cares? Yeah. Um, and so,

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yeah, so they have— and this is then the scene as well when I think

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most people recognize some of the stuff that Stuart says to the other son,

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uh, whose name escapes me now, but he calls him Heed. I think in

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the credits he is literally listed as Heed. Heed, Heed,

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paper. Yeah, so that, that's definitely funny.

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And this, this poor little like Screech Powers looking kid with curly

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hair and a big head and The dad's just endlessly tormenting

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him. Another Dazed and Confused reference because he looks exactly like the redheaded girl

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from Dazed and Confused that like drives around with the nerds. Like she's got

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this big puff of red hair. He looks exactly like her. It's about as red

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of hair. That just came to me anyway. Yeah, and then so

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yeah, we get the like you know this kid will be crying himself to sleep

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tonight on his huge pillow or whatever. Like all that kind of stuff. And it's

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so funny here because Anthony LaPaglia clearly couldn't do a take without.

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busting up. Now it makes sense that Tony the character laughs,

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right? The way— but it looks like a real laugh. Yeah, he looks

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like he's trying to stifle it and failing. And I think they just went with,

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we need to move on. Like, you're not, you're not getting this without laughing at

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the stuff Mike's saying, so let's just move on. But it works because Tony laughing

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at it works in character, so it's fine. But it does look like it was

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more of a struggle than that. Um, yeah. Um, okay,

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so the dad— yeah, the dad is hammered, right? And, uh,

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And the mom wants to fuck Tony, basically.

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So they're— oh, and she's shown in the Weekly World News. This is kind of

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funny, is like the headline of it is like, pregnant man gives birth.

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Junior. Impossible. And, uh, so,

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so yeah, as they're leaving, uh, as Charlie and Tony are leaving,

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his mom May just grabs Tony and just gives him this like ridiculous

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kiss that lasts forever, right? And her hands are all over him. So we got

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the horned-up mom, we get the drunk dad, we got a lot of good stuff.

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I believe she calls him a right sexy bastard.

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That's right. So now we cut

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to another day. We're at work with Tony now. He's a cop, and so he's

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there at work, and his boss is Alan Arkin, who plays,

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I think, the captain, right? He refers to him as captain. And one of the

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things that we get is Alan Arkin is playing a very Alan Arkin role in

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this. I feel like Alan Arkin often plays emotionally

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intelligent, sensitive characters, often therapists. Like, this is a thing that he

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kind of— a milieu he rides in or has in his career.

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And Tony's kind of like, oh, you know, Captain, being a cop's

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not what I thought it would be. I thought I'd be, you know, like chasing

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a guy, chasing a criminal through a crowded city square, whatever. And Alan Arkin's like,

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we have to do paperwork. It's a very important part of our job. It's,

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you know, it might be boring, but, you know, it's like— and he goes,

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that's the other thing, Captain, you're too nice. He's like, I'm too nice? Like,

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it's this whole kind of subplot of Tony wishing his life was more like Mel

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Gibson's in Lethal Weapon, basically. Like, uh, or, or Eddie Murphy in

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Beverly Hills Cop, right? You know, that's what he wants and he doesn't get it.

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And Alan Arkin, it is funny that it's such a contrast to the, like,

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the Bill Duke, uh, CCH Pounder,

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like, uh, police chief character that we see all the time. Um, so yeah,

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he plays that very well. He really does. He's great in this. I even love

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the part where he's like, you know, you should tell me, like, like, you never

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tell me that you're getting chewed out by the, by the chief. Where he goes,

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well, Tony, the thing is, I don't answer to a chief. I actually answer to

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a, a committee. Some of the members are elected, some are appointed, some are— and

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he's just going on. He's just like, this is what I'm talking about, man.

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It's not— this isn't cool. Like, it's not fun. Yeah, I want to be able

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to tell people about the exciting things about my job. Um, so Charlie

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is back in the, uh, oh yeah, meats of the world. And this time it's

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busy. It's crazy. Like tons of people. Yeah. And there's like, you know, one person

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getting every country's meat. You know, there's not any kind of consistency. And Harriet's

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all over the place behind the, uh, behind the register. Um, this is where Charlie

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makes a comment. She's like, well, do you actually like haggis? He's like, no,

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I don't. He's like, I actually think that most Scottish food is based on a

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dare. That's fair. Yeah. No, honestly, like the black sausage and all kinds— there's all

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kinds of horrible stuff. Yeah. Part of the world. Uh, so yeah, so he offers

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help because he mentions his dad's a butcher. Which is not actually information we had

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prior to this, but hey, that works. Yeah. So his dad was, you know,

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is, was, whatever, a butcher. I worked in the shop a lot, so I can

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help you out. And so she does. And this is when we get the second—

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this is a point I want to talk about. So when I told my wife

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Heather, I was like, oh, we're gonna watch Sweeney Todd: The Murderous Night. She's like,

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oh, it's so great. And, you know, I'm like, I know, I really enjoy this

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movie. She's like, yeah, I love it, and it's got such a great soundtrack.

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And I was like, I remember really liking the music in this movie. Like,

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like, I remember that. But watching it through, I decided I would write down all

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the music cues, and there are only 3 pop songs on

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the soundtrack in this. Now there's Stuart sings a version of a song, or there's

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the Bay City Rollers play and he kind of sings along. But like, as far

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as like non-diegetic, like we're gonna use this for the movie soundtrack, there are 3

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songs. We've heard The Laws, There She Goes, here is Big Audio Dynamite, uh,

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their song Rush, which was a huge hit. And then there's like one more,

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and then we hear— Princess by the S. Yeah, 2 Princes later, and that's it.

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And then we get The Laws 2 more times, which is interesting. But that's the

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montage song for this segment. When Charlie is helping Harriet out, and they're kind of

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they're flirting, but he is you know being very helpful, but also playing around.

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And he's like he's being wild and goofy with the meats and stuff, doing like

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pounding the meat and making moo noises. Yeah,

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like you know all that kind of stuff. Very very strange, but very Mike Myers.

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Being very Mike Myers for sure. Good gag.

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I always like the karate chop massage. It's it's a good gag and

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an actual good massage move if you're giving someone a massage. Like around

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their neck and shoulders, that does work very well. It was the first massage technique

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that we taught either of our kids. So like my daughter, who's eight, is awesome.

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Walks up behind you, sitting in a chair, and she's just the right height where

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she starts chopping on my on my shoulders and like oh my gosh, that's awesome.

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That's the best. She's getting really good at it. So Charlie

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and Harriet, like they're you know they're they're hanging out. They're things are going well.

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They're having a blast together. She loves his shit. Yeah. Oh yes, that's the thing.

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She's really buying all it. All his jokes, man. She's into it. She's like oh

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we're so busy, and she looks back and he's like doing the bend. and June

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thing with 2 filet mignons on forks and dancing them around.

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And she's like, oh, this is the best thing I've ever seen in my life.

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I liked— but it would be very much a health code violation— but I did

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enjoy the part where he had some— I don't know if it was awful or

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if it was trimmings or something he was gonna throw away anyway, but it was

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like this, this, this, you know, kind of bloody-looking meat

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that's been chopped up and whatever, and he's got it in his sleeve. And he

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goes up to a customer and he's like, Mom, Mom, call the school nurse!

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There was an accident in woodshop! Call the— I think that's funny as hell.

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But like the actual reality of it is like that one, that poor woman is

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now traumatized. She's never coming back to that store. And whatever that is, you can't

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sell it. Now, I don't know if it was— oh, I guess it might have

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just been trimmings that were going into the trash. But like, that's like a health

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code violation, really. Sure. And you know, as a new employee of a butcher shop,

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save the goofin'. To be fair, I don't think he was being paid, at least

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not in cash. They do end up after this, they like go out on a

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little bit of like a date. They end up at the Palace of Fine Arts,

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which is a great location in SF. Yep. Not probably anywhere near where her butcher

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shop is, by the way, because it's sort of out— yeah, it was kind of

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in the city. Yeah, geography doesn't work great. But they passed

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by some Russian sailors. An interesting— because, you know, in the US there's always like

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other countries' uniformed military walking around. What was that about?

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That was really fucking bizarre. And again, if you know where this location in SF

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is, it is as far from water basically as you can get. It's kind of

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in the center geographically of the city. But anyway, they say something

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in Russian and she turns and says something in Russian back to them. So we

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don't know what it is. At least the version I looked at didn't have subtitles

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or anything. So it's just meant to be— doesn't matter what she says. She speaks

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Russian fluently, right? And he notices, like, you speak Russian

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or whatever. And so, but they, you know, it doesn't really go anywhere there.

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And they kind of like— there's like dancing and frolicking. It's just

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kind of like very, you know, fun, I guess. Yeah, it's like kind of thing.

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And they go back to her place. Yes. And we got to talk

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about the absolutely— it's like, this is more insane than the sneakers This

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place is nuts. 'Cause at least at Sneakers Loft, they theoretically have like

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better sources of income. Like a business, they're running out of it.

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This is supposedly Harriet— this is the funny

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part. We learned— I'm gonna skip ahead a little bit, just this one piece.

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We will meet Harriet's sister Rose later, and she says something

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about, this is our place, Harriet's and mine. She comes and goes, but she

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always ends up back here. That to me reads that they own it,

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right? What the fuck? Like, even, even SF in

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like the '80s or '90s, it's not like it was a cheap place to live.

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No, not at all. You know what I mean? So this place looks like it

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is 3,000 square feet. It's 2 levels. Yeah.

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Right? It's like a big like loft warehouse loft type thing. It's decorated impeccably.

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It's amazing. It's one of the most cool looking homes in like

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any movie, in my opinion. Yeah. It does have— It could be the coffee shop.

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Like, it could be. Yeah. It's a cool enough place that like it could be

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a public space for people to hang out. And like, I've never— and I've known

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people who are like very good like interior decorators for their own homes and spaces,

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and they have a lot of stuff. You know, you, you know, you, you go

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over to somebody's house sometimes and it's like bare walls, and you're like, whoa.

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Other places it's like people really curated like a whole look. And still this place

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is like TGI Friday's level amount of shit on the walls. Like really

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fucking wild, but all like pretty cool. Like all that 15-foot-tall

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poster of Atlantic City is amazing. It really is cool. That is good. I don't

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think it was fair of him to make that, uh, joke about it. Honestly,

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dude, that was dope as shit. Could have cut that out. That looked cool as

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fuck. Yeah, no, wonderful place.

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And, you know, we have the Mystery Loft, of course. And one

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thing that Charlie notices is she has like all these martial arts

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weapons on the wall and she kind of brushes by. He's like, what's going on

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with this? And she's like, oh, my friend gave them to me. And she says

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she has a friend who— and then she again uses the exact words, who is

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a martial arts expert, which I feel like is a thing that would be said

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by Frank W. Dukes and not very many other people. Yeah, he's a martial science

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guy. Oh, I'm sorry. My apologies. You're absolutely right. That is my bad. Sorry,

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Frank. If you're out there listening. Uh, yeah, but it's kind of weird

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that like everybody says martial arts expert, in my opinion. It's odd. But she does

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brush it off. We later learned that these belonged to her ex-husband

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who is missing, at least. That she doesn't mention— I get that

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it's like first date, whatever, but that she doesn't say anything, doesn't take this opportunity

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to be like, you know what, yeah, that was,

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that was, that's my ex's. Even just say my ex's stuff. Yeah. Even if you

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don't go into the details, right? Because I get it, you're not trying to scare

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somebody off, but the fact of the matter is that's your reality. If you're this

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woman, you have these ex-husbands, they went missing, right? You're gonna have to have this

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conversation at some point, right? Like, it just seemed odd to me that she was

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so dismissive about, like, oh, it was friend stuff. Like, whatever. You for sure

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have to fucking, um, have to disclose that. Like, if you— if you're legally,

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like, betrothed to somebody who's, like, the subject of a manhunt,

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like, you have to tell somebody on a first date. I feel like that's true.

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It's sort of in the same ballpark as, like, you know, you have to declare

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when a murder occurred in a home if you're gonna sell it, or if you

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have HIV. So, yeah, you definitely have to do all of that. It's very required.

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Uh, so, uh, he's gonna go. He kind of says something about he usually rushes

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into this stuff too much, and she's like, well, I want you to stay over

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and fuck me, so let's do that. Yep. So they do, uh, and they go

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up and they hump under these sheets that my parents definitely had in the

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'90s. They also look a lot like the upholstery that was on every

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other couch. Yeah, right, at every other friend's house that you would go, you go,

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oh, that upholstery again, like same shit. Um, but yeah, then they're sleeping

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after that, and she is asleep, but yelling out

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the name Ralph in her sleep, which gets obviously Charlie's attention. And he

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kind of goes, huh? And then, you know, he wakes her up, she wakes

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up, whatever. And he's like, you were— you said the name Ralph. You were yelling

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the name Ralph. Like, who's Ralph? Oh, Ralph? She's my friend.

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And he goes, oh, she, huh? Oh, she's your friend?

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Sure. Like, as if there's a woman named Ralph, right? But they go back to

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sleep. When he wakes up,

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Harriet is not in bed there with him. So he gets up and he kind

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of like— he walks downstairs wearing just like a shirt and his underwear. And he

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sees there's like a frosted glass window into

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the shower that you can see from below, which like seems like it has no

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purpose other than to be titillating. Just to creep. Somebody nearby. You know,

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it's a very strange choice, but there, there it is. It is frosted. It is,

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you know, but he sees a figure, a woman showering, and he goes

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up to like kind of sneak in on her, assuming, I think quite reasonably,

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that it's Harriet. Yeah. A very reasonable assumption. She never

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mentioned living with anyone else. else and everything. So, but no, this is Amanda Plummer.

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This is Rose, uh, who is Harriet's sister,

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uh, and so, you know, there's a moment where he busts into her— into the

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shower while she's in it. He screams. She doesn't really react a whole lot.

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No, she's pretty fine with it. She's good. Like, uh, and then, uh,

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like, he gets dressed and goes downstairs, and she's already downstairs then, like, having obviously

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finished her shower and everything. And she says— this is a funny moment,

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I love this— she says, uh, Harriet left you a And she like picks it

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up out of her like pocket or off the table. I can't remember exactly,

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but she picks it up and instead of handing it to it, looks like he's

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gonna hand it to him, and then she unfolds it and starts reading it out

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loud to him like that's the appropriate thing to do. I love that moment for

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some reason. I think it's very funny. Yeah, and she says she's gonna make him,

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oh, like chill out, I'll make you this breakfast, I'll make you all this stuff.

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And then it cuts to her just pouring Froot Loops in a bowl. She's like,

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I didn't have any of that. Silver dollar pancakes, bacon, freshly squeezed orange juice.

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And then it's like, I don't have have any of the other stuff.

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Yeah, no, Froot Loops are good. And she's being— she's being weird to him because

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what she's saying to him is, hey, don't worry, like, I'm gonna tell Harriet that

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nothing happened. And he's just kind of like, whoa, whoa, whoa, what the fuck?

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Yeah, Rose, nothing did happen. Nothing did happen. And she's just like,

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yep, wink wink. He's like, no, no, like, I don't like where this is going.

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So this is an interesting character introduction in my opinion. Like, Rose comes off initially

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as both very aloof and kind of like not bothered by anything,

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it seems, but then also I don't know if it's fair. I mean, obviously having

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seen the movie as many times as I have, like, I know this character well,

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but it's like, I don't know if it's fair at this point to say she

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comes off as dangerous, but she definitely comes off— Unhinged?

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Yeah, for sure. Like that kind of thing. So we get this, this sense initially

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that like, whatever this woman's story is, it's probably not great,

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right? It's probably not a great thing, whatever's going on with her. So,

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so we get just a little bit of that. But yeah, but then she says,

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don't worry, Charlie, just be careful. And it's like, whoa, what the

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fuck? Like, what is that? That's the part where you're kind of like, you don't

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know. You know, again, as we know through the movie, like, it turns out she's

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kind of warning him against herself in some ways. But like, but at this point,

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it's like, what is that about? Is this, you know, but again, like, I'm getting

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ahead of things, but it's, it, this movie does a lot of things really

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well from a very high-level plot scenario.

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Like, like, like, like hint, like dropping things early, paying them off later.

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Like, that stuff works a lot. It's not without holes. Don't get me wrong.

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Like, this is one of those moments where they're really between yelling

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Ralph, the martial arts stuff, Rose saying be careful. Like, we are hammering

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home that Charlie should be fearful of Harriet. Yeah.

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Right? That maybe Harriet is Mrs. X. So I love any

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time a movie gives the audience more information than it gives the characters. I love

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being ahead of the characters and like begging them to catch up,

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you know? And sort of like wanting them to get where I am. That to

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me is sort of what I love best. You know, it's great sometimes when movies

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don't give the audience the info and then we all find out at the same

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time as the characters. Well, that can be good. Right. something about the dramatic irony

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of like knowing that the character, or, or, or at least suspecting

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before the character suspects something, knowing something before the character knows it, and then realizing

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like, oh man, they're— when they get there, they're going to freak the fuck out.

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When they get where I'm at, it's going to freak them out. So yeah,

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the whole feeling of like, don't go in there, like all that, he's right behind

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you, like, yeah, for sure. The guy's in the barn, don't go in the barn.

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Like, um, uh, yeah, so, so that leaves us on

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like kind of a weird moment, right? So now we, we cut, we got one

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of our other great songs, we got 2 Prince is playing as, uh, as Charlie

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and Tony are heading out towards Alcatraz. I gotta ask

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you, honest, actual honest opinion about this song and Spin Doctors in general. What is

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like— like, I enjoy it. I think, uh,

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yeah, I could, I could fuck with it. It doesn't bother me. Spin Doctors were

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a guilty pleasure for me in the '90s. They— I no longer feel guilty about

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it. I think both Two Princes and Little Miss Can't Be Wrong are fucking bangers.

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They put a smile on my face. Like, they are so nostalgic. Both those songs

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got played so many in so many different movies and so many different— we hear

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them on the radio all the time. There is something about, if I wanna think

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about what life felt like in the mid-'90s, throw on some fucking Spin

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Doctors. Oh yeah. Pocketful of Kryptonite. Just put the album on. It's nothing, you know,

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it's bubblegummy kind of, you know, there's nothing deep or, you know,

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meaningful about the music per se, but it's so fun. Oh, there's good deep stuff.

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Yeah, fucking been a whole lot easier since the bitch left town.

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Yeah, I fuck with them. with the Spin Doctors. They're like a little below the

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Counting Crows on my hierarchy, but we're all in there. And there

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are things that were formerly guilty pleasures, and like you said, the guilt dissolves

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with time, and you're like, no, that's just a pleasure, homie. And there was stuff

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that I thought I hated back then for some dumb reason, and then ended up—

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like, I thought for some reason in high school I hated Toad the Wet Sprocket.

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Yeah, I do not hate Toad the Wet Sprocket. Their music's fantastic. Like, I love

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it now, you know? But nice. Yeah, anyway, we're gonna do, uh, Drop Zone someday,

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and, uh, oh, I think they feature Fall Down in that. Nice.

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It's a skydiving movie. All right, very cool. And we'll have to do son-in-law in

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order to get Little Miss Candy Rock. There we go. Um, so, so Charlie

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and Tony are on the boat, they're going to the— to do the Alcatraz tour.

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And I can't— I think we're kind of shown early on that this is like

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one of the things they do frequently. Yeah, they're kind of talking about like,

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oh, what guide do we get today and stuff. So this is like where they

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go to just hang out and bullshit, which like— I think I've been on 2

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Alcatraz tours in my entire life. Yeah, 46 years living in the Bay Area.

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Maybe once was with Boy Scouts and then like one other time, I don't remember.

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But like, this is not something, as far as I'm aware, any locals just do.

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No, not at all. On any kind of basis at all. But apparently Tony and

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Charlie really just love doing the Alcatraz tour. And it is cool, at least was

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back then. It's all self-guided now. There's no more, you know, there's no tour guides

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anymore or anything. It's like those audio, those headset things. But still, like, so they

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go and they get Phil Hartman's character is their

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tour guide. And I can't remember his real name, but everybody calls me Vicky.

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I think he says, my name is John Johnson, but everybody calls me Vicky.

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Everybody here calls me Vicky. I love Vicky. So he

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does a little tour, gets them to, to, uh, what do they call it?

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Uh, not Main Street. What do they call it? It's like the, the Broadway.

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They call it Broadway. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like it's where the worst

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of the worst were, you know, housed. And he tells a story about Machine Gun

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Kelly, and I won't repeat the whole thing, but basically that like Machine Gun Kelly

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had what we in the prison system refer to as a bitch. Yeah,

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yeah, that's good, good little Phil Hartman, uh,

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cameo there. And then while he's talking to it while he's telling this story.

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Charlie and Tony are in the front, and, and Charlie's just

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like, yeah, so anyway, I really like this girl. And then Vicki kind of looks

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at him like, what the fuck? I'm in the middle of my story. Kind of

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looked— dude, like, the death stare, right? Yeah, fuck it, for real. But how,

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how inconsiderate. I mean, I will say Charlie and Tony, very inconsiderate

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throughout this tour to people who haven't been. Oh, absolutely. Yep. They stop in front

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of the cell forever to just chitchat. I mean, really, their actions Second worst

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interruption of an Alcatraz tour that we've seen on this podcast.

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Really?

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So we've got a we've got a montage now with our song again. We've got

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There She Goes by the Laws again, and it's not. I don't know why I

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thought that was Sixpence None. Oh no, that's the Laws. Did they cover it?

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Okay. I don't think so, but I've always known it as the Laws, and I

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don't think it was a Sixpence. If it was a cover, it would have been

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maybe an older. If there was a version from Sixpence was Kiss Me. That was

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Kiss Me. Okay. Yes. Um, so we get a montage and basically, you know,

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it's a montage to show that Harriet loves Charlie's shit and Charlie

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is being goofy as hell and her sister's being normal. They're like all

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hanging out. Present a lot. She's there a lot for sure. Yeah, but they're like,

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they're doing stuff together and Charlie and the sister, it looks

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like it's not weird between them. He's being pretty normal with her. Yeah, and it's,

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it's just, uh, it's like the dating montage. This is how we compress time and

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say, okay, now, now when we come out of this audience accept the fact that

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they're like a full couple. They're, you know, definitely, uh, uh,

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you know, not dating other people or whatever. They're like together, right? That's sort of

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what we're getting. And we cut then to Fog City Diner, which unfortunately closed several

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years ago, was a very cool place right there on Embarcadero. Yep. Uh, and they

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are now— it is now, uh, Charlie and Harriet and Tony. And I don't

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know if we get Tony's girlfriend's name, but she is played by Debbie Mazar,

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who we've seen before. She was in Goodfellas. Yeah. Um, one— somebody who I just

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love as a character actress. And they're doing like a would you rather,

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right? Like freaked out kind of, would you rather this crazy thing happened or this

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crazy thing happened? And they've all got very kind of creative but like

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gross things. And then we cut to Debbie Mazar's character

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and they're just like, or? And it's her cue and she says, or would you

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rather be electrocuted? Yeah. And they're all kind of like,

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and? It's like, no, no, that's it. That's like really scary. I was electrocuted once.

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Which I think is very funny, but like, no, like it doesn't land with any

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of the characters. Right, right. No. And this is such a such a common character

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is the the outside party who is not good

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at playing the thing, like goofing around the way that you and your friends like

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to, and definitely stands out from it. They don't speak the language. Good thing you're

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hot, Debbie. And and we get we get a couple

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more hellos in this scene, I think. Well, we get the negatory good buddy.

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Tony and Charlie fight over the the check. That's right. I'm gonna pay the check.

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He's like no no no no no no. No, no, no, no, no, no,

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no, no, no, no, negatory, good buddy, negatory. That kind of stuff. And then Harriet

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takes the check and she pays apparently. So, and Harriet and Charlie decide they're going

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to walk home together. Right. In the rain. Pouring rain. Pouring, right? Like more than

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it generally— even when it rains in our area, it doesn't tend to pour like

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that. Yeah, this is crazy. Really crazy. Um, and it's definitely, you know, showing their,

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their relationship solidifying. And hey, I'm willing to put up with your jokes,

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so of course I'm willing to go out in the rain, uh, to walk home

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with you. It was her idea. Yeah, she's the one who wanted to walk.

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And he said like, I love that you wanted to walk home in the rain.

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Yeah. All right, and then I think we cut to Tony,

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back to Tony. No, I'm sorry. Nope. Back at their house, back at the

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Mackenzies'. Yes. Another scene, dinner at Mackenzies'. This time Harriet is coming over to meet

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the parents. May answers the door and like,

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you know, come on in and hugs Harriet. Oh, you know, you're so beautiful,

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like whatever. And then Stuart comes down without his pants, without his trousers,

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and goes to like tap Harriet on the shoulder or something. And she full on

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like, you know, judo kind of grabs his arm and twists it

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behind his back. And, you know, he's like, I like this one, Charlie. Like,

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you know, Um, but yeah, so then,

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uh, the one of the funniest moments in this to me— oh,

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so, so, uh, May offers to show Harriet the baby pictures of

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Charlie, right? And he goes to excuse himself to like use the bathroom,

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I think, right? And I love— my favorite moment in this is that there's a

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dartboard on the back of the bathroom door with Queen Elizabeth II's

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picture on it, which I just think— I love the idea of Stuart sitting,

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taking a crap, and throwing darts at the Queen. Very funny.

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Very Very funny. And Charlie in the bathroom finds that Weekly

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World News, which is kind of open to the article about the serial killer that

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his mom had told him about. And he's looking at it, you know, so he's

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making the realization, like, you know, axe murderer, like, you had a

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plumber in, in New Jersey or whatever, Russian martial

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arts guy, Atlantic City lounge singer. Yeah. So he's getting very suspicious

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because he's like, okay, these are all the exact places she's lived. We've seen clues

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of the Atlantic City thing. We've seen The Russian,

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she spoke in Russian. The martial arts stuff. Someone named Ralph, she's yelling out the

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name of. Right? There's all kinds of things. I think she maybe even mentioned the

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song because they because he takes that paper then to Tony after dinner's done.

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It's like the next day, whatever. He goes to Tony at the police station and

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he's telling him, Tony, you got to look into this for me. Look into this

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Mrs. X thing. And he goes, fucking Charlie, this is the weekly world news.

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What are you talking about? Yeah. And he's like, no, but look at all these

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things. He's pointing out all this stuff and he says something about where you.

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you know, uh, the lounge singer like was famous or something for his cover of

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Only You or something like— it was something like that. And Tony goes, does she

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even know the words to Only You? And he's like, I don't know if she

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knows, you know, but he just really wants Tony to like look into it.

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Yep. Very, very important. Uh, Charlie— this is a good moment of the

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time where Charlie is, uh, he's at Harriet's, I think. Yes. And he's watching a

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current affair. And I remember as a kid thinking that that was so

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like compelling, even though I didn't know what they were ever talking about. But just

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the way that triangle goes like, like flies at you,

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right? Good-ass sound. And then he's using the ThighMaster. Yes, he is.

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The Suzanne Somers ThighMaster. Great. I— we, uh, have a ThighMaster,

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uh, at our house. My wife has one. She's had it for a long time.

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One time when, uh, when we were dating, we didn't live together yet,

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my daughter and I went by her house to like feed her cats and stuff.

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And, uh, she was out of town and the ThighMaster was there. And Wren is

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like 3 years old. She's like, what is this? I'm like, oh, you put it

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between your legs and you squeeze. And I have this video of her struggling so

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hard, like She's so mad at this thing. She's like,

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like trying to squeeze the thigh mask. Like, damn it, it doesn't work. This one's

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broken. So I love seeing the thigh mask. Very good.

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But one of the things he's seeing on, uh, a current affair is that poisoning

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murders are on the rise. And it's always people you know, right? Yeah.

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Inside the family, people you live with, people you trust. Like, that's— and yes,

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and poisoning is becoming very important. So of course, this is the point where Harriet

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comes in with a drink that she says is a health shake,

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and she spent half an hour making it. But it looks like Hawaiian

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Punch with frothy foam on top. It's very weird. It's a little frothy on top,

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but it looks clear, kind of reddish pinkish. Yeah, does not look

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like a shake of any kind. You should have said juice or something. Maybe.

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Yeah, and maybe that was the idea because we got the juicer. The mom had

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a juicer, so maybe it was like a juicing thing. But to call it a

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health shake, I was looking at going, there's no— it's not even like blended with

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ice. There's nothing here that's giving it any texture at all. Yeah, this just

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looks like like, you know what it really looked like to me? You're old

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enough now, you've had a colonoscopy, right? You know that shit you got to eat,

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drink ahead of time the day before? That's what it fucking looked like to me.

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So I also would not have drinking that shit, Charlie. Maybe that's what, uh,

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maybe that's what she wanted. It's pretty convenient if you're Scottish and you get a

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colonoscopy. You just have the kilt on, you don't really need to pull the pants

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up and down. Is that convenient or is that worse somehow? It might be worse.

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Might be worse. Um, so he doesn't want

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to touch this because he's just been freaked out by the current affair He's like,

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get this away. Like, no, no, no, sorry, I can't. Shit. And she's saying,

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well, I spent a lot of time making this. I made this for you.

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What's going on? What's happening? And then he finally just goes and hides in the

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closet. She's like, all right, whatever, dude. Fuck you. She leaves. And then there's a

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good gag of the closet collapsing on him, which I always like to see that.

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It's always funny when there's like more shit coming from above what you can see

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in the closet than could possibly be in any number of shelves above there,

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you know? Exactly. Like it's a vaulted ceiling closet to be able to hold all

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that. Skylight 3 floors up. And there's a dump truck on the roof just pouring

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shit down. Exactly. Um,

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but yeah, but then so they go to go to go to bed and she's

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kind of like, you know, I'm so sorry, it's not a big deal that you

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didn't want to drink my shake, it's okay. And then she was saying something like,

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I just feel so comfortable with you and I trust you so much and I'm

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so glad that we're so comfortable with each other. I mean, boy, if you think

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about it, like, we sleep next to each other and I mean, I could do

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anything to you. And you— and it's like— and this is like one of the,

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one of the scenes, one of the moments in the movie that really doesn't work

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for me because this is a woman who— let's just like lay it all out—

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she is not a killer. She has had 3 husbands disappear mysteriously

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on her honeymoon. Mm-hmm.

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She must be aware in some way that that is something other people would

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think is strange. She doesn't talk about it openly. So it's like a source of

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either guilt or shame or something, right? There's that. And so

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why would she talk about this? Like, this feels

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like very— you're gonna get people thinking you're

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a fucking killer if you talk shit like this. Like, it's just a little strange.

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strange. I feel like somebody in this— in her position would feel that much more

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guarded and sort of like unwilling to sort of just say shit like this.

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It's a little weird. Yeah, it does seem like she, she would have to know

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all this stuff. She would have to know that it's really fucking with them.

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Otherwise, it's a weirdly like clueless thing to say. Exactly.

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Um, so we're at the, uh, at the San Francisco Globe,

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right? I like the fake newspapers. Yes, clearly the, the font

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or the text is all very Chronicle, right? It's clearly the Chronicle. Yeah,

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um, and we're at the marriages, uh, desk. Yeah, it's like the announcements basically.

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And so he's putting— Charlie's gonna go make an announcement, right? Because they're for

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his parents' 30th anniversary. Yeah, throwing— have an anniversary

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party coming up. Um, just like not a thing. I mean, it's not a thing

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anybody does anymore, I assume, is— I didn't really realize that was a thing before,

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announcing anniversary. Like, I guess I know there's marriage announcements, obviously there's obituaries, like maybe

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even births potentially, but like an anniversary is like a weird thing. It's not like

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you're inviting the public to their anniversary party. Like, yeah, I, I know it's

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odd, but it's probably one of those things. His parents are big newspaper clipping people.

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That's true. It's probably important for them to have really good cutouts. Yeah, make it,

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cut it out and put on the fridge. That's a good point, actually. Yeah.

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Uh, while he's there, he overhears a couple of the, uh, the workers there who

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are kind of talking back and forth about one of these cases, right?

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And, uh, one of them, uh, played by Michael Richards, right?

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And, uh, fuck, who's the other guy? I don't remember his name, but he was,

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he was like the, uh, the landlord— not the landlord, the superintendent on Friends that

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was always like fixing stuff for, for, uh, Rachel and Monica.

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He was like, that guy, he's been in a ton of movies that we've seen,

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and then others. Yeah, I mean, it's one of those character actor guys that was

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in everything in the '80s and '90s, it felt like. Uh, and, and Charlie's trying

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to get— he's like trying to get some info from them, but they, they keep—

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or Michael Richards keeps assuming that he's just offended at what he overheard

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him say. Because he was talking about how like the Ralph Elliott would die,

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like, because Ralph Elliott went missing, but then they found out like, no, he died,

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and he was found in a like sewage drain pipe or

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And he goes, well, you take your work— he was a plumber— you take your

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work home and that's what happens, you know, kind of thing. And somebody who isn't

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Charlie says like, hey, that's somebody's like family, like you should be nicer.

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And he goes, no, no, wait, wait, did they say anything about the wife?

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And he goes, no, no, I get it, kid. I get it, pal. Like whatever,

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I'm sorry, I was being offensive. No, no, did they say anything about the wife?

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Look, I'm sorry that I said— and you know, he's like freaking out. And like

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Kramer, whatever, Michael Richards walks away like, you know, oh, look at me, I'm the

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insensitive guy. It's funny, if you guys, uh, it's a really funny scene.

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If you guys look up, uh, Michael Richards offensive joke tirade on YouTube, I think

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this will be the first thing that pops up. This will be the first hit.

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You're gonna love it. Don't go to the second page though, because boy, it's gonna

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get real dark real fast. But yeah, this would definitely be the first thing.

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It's this and the fire hose scene from UHF. Yeah, yeah.

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Uh, so, uh, so, you know, more stuff happening.

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He's like, right, what the fuck's going on? Uh, he's with Harriet

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now in front of the Painted Ladies. We get some good SF, like,

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landmarks here. Alamo Square Park. Um, and I think he's just at

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this point, she's like, he's being too weird, he's being too suspicious,

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he's freaking her out. And she's just like, whatever, dude, I'm done. Well, he dumps

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her. Yeah, I mean, he basically says like, I don't think we should see each

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other anymore. And she's like, why? And he's just like, I don't think we should

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see each other anymore. And you know, that's it. But he's,

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you know, she's pissed at him rightfully. Yeah, but the end. And now

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if Charlie didn't— if he didn't work, uh, for free

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part-time at the butcher shop. What, what does he do? Like, do we ever get

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a glimpse of, like, Charlie? He's not an architect. No, he's not

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anything. Is he just a professional, like, unlit cigarette beat

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poet? Like, I don't think that pays well. I don't think so. I don't think

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it does. But you're absolutely right. I don't think we get any indication whatsoever.

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He drives a beautiful classic convertible, right? He's, he's,

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you know, his parents are clearly wealthy. I mean, if he'd inherited the Butcher

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shop, he would have said that instead of just my dad was a butcher and

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I worked in his shop sometimes. He would have said that differently. So yeah,

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we don't get really any indication, I don't think, of what Charlie McKenzie does for

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a living. Yeah, why does he have money at all? It's really kind of crazy.

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Yeah, yeah, we never see his apartment either. I think we see it for like

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one second, but it's so— yeah, it's super short because I was looking forward.

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Oh, that's right, I remember. And it has a great view if I remember.

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He's like in North Beach. Beautiful place. It's like a beautiful North Beach like he's

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on the— he's on the roof and it's like a 3rd floor, like, North Beach

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apartment. Fucking crazy, dude. Um, so, uh,

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so now we've got a, uh, another poetry performance,

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right? So now that he and Harriet have broken up— Charlie and Harriet are broken

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up— so we get the, the next woman, whoa man performance, and it's got Harriet's

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picture in the background. And the big difference was when he did the one about,

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uh, Sherry, I think was his, his ex at the beginning of the movie,

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he's got this little candle in like a votive, like a glass votive holder thing,

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and he blows it out at the end of the poem. And with the Harriet

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poem, he picks that up and puts it in front of his face but does

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not blow it out and then puts it back down. I think because, you know,

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he's not 100% sure that the flame is gone. Okay, right. So that's our

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little signal there. Very nice. Yeah. Uh, and so Tony, uh,

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Tony calls. Yeah, right. And, uh, Tony tells Charlie

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that someone had confessed to this, to the murder of Ralph Elliott.

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So it's like, well, it's not Harriet, like, we found somebody.

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Exactly. Somebody confessed to that. Right. And, and, and I think even there's something about—

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they even hinted that there were others. Yes. Like, he says that, right? So it's

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like they're gonna talk about that. So he— Charlie goes running back to Harriet,

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basically, like, to her apartment, like, Harriet, I'm so sorry, whatever. And she's like,

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you blew it. No, leave. Yeah. And so he does, like, you know, a movie

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trope. It's not something that doesn't happen often in movies but would never really happen

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in real life, right? He gets that jazz trio from Rhodes Cafe out to,

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like, near her window and does, you know, the live poetry version of John

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Cusack standing, uh, yes, on Ione Skye's lawn with his boombox and say anything.

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Um, but yeah, like, uh, you know, she takes him back after his,

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you know, heartfelt little beat poem. It's fucking crazy that after him,

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like, just blowing that whole relationship, he's able

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to win her back by showcasing his most annoying hobby. Yeah,

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exactly. It really— hey, what's the thing about me that all your friends say,

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geez, if it weren't for that one thing, he'd be cool? Yeah, right. If I

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was more impressionable, maybe even if I was— maybe if I was a little older

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when I first saw this or something, I would've thought that

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being like a beat poet really would've gotten the girls. And I'm glad I never

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got that idea 'cause it's definitely wrong, so. It's called a beat

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poet 'cause you're always beating off. So Charlie

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and Harriet, they were back together and it didn't take much to

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convince her. I mean, she really— Yeah, just a little. Just that poem and now

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they're back sharing a bathtub again. That's right, yeah, yeah. And he's being

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fucking annoying in the bathtub. He really is. But then like the doorbell rings,

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I think, right? And so Harriet like goes downstairs or something, whatever. He comes downstairs

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in a towel. Yeah. And Harriet, wearing like a bathrobe or whatever, is introducing

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him to a woman who I swear in the past I thought was Linda Hamilton.

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Dude, I, I had this down to look up because when

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we were watching it, Jeanie's like, she's like, that's the chick for— that's— or,

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or no, remember in T2, they're in credited,

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Linda Hamilton has a sister who's also in that. And Jeanie was like, that was

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like her— Could be Linda Hamilton's sister. Yes. And I thought so

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too, but it wasn't. It is not correct. acted as somebody who I don't think

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really was in very many other movies, whoever they are, but it's Ralph. Yeah.

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And so he's like— she's like, hey, look, this is my friend Ralph. And he's

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like, oh my God, there is a woman named Ralph. This explains, you know,

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in addition to the fact that somebody else has confessed to the murder

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of Ralph Elliott, there is now also an explanation for Harriet

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yelling Ralph. This is great. This is like— it's sort of the,

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I thought everything was terrible, this is now continuing to prove to me that nope,

56:41.669 --> 56:44.826
I had it wrong before. I'm actually— this is actually awesome. Nothing's wrong.

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Woohoo! This is perfect. Yes, and this is,

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uh, really, really exciting. And there's kind of a fun moment there

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where he's like, I'm naked, aren't I? He goes to hug her and his towel

56:55.557 --> 56:58.793
drops and he's like, I'm naked, aren't I? Like, yeah. And he like still holds

56:58.826 --> 57:02.177
the hug and everything, plays that off. He's really charming these ladies.

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Oh my gosh. Um, now we're at his parents', uh, 30th anniversary

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dinner, uh, which is at a restaurant called Cock of the North, which I enjoy.

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Love that. Great name. Cock the North. Uh, and at

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this restaurant, at this party, uh, it ends up that Charlie asks

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Harriet to marry him. He proposes. There's too much romance in the air. And she's

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super kind of nervous about that at first, does not give him an answer right

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away. It's kind of like, uh, are you sure? Whatever. But then like Stuart,

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like his dad, basically gives like a speech about how thankful he is that,

57:32.095 --> 57:35.304
that Charlie threw this party, and I wish for you 30 years like

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I've had, and like all this stuff, whatever. And it's very like, uh, it's very

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sweet, very heartfelt, whatever. And Harriet Harriet turns to Charlie and says, yes, like,

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I'll marry you. And so that's super exciting. We cut quickly

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to their wedding, right? So they're— it's in a church. Uh,

57:48.867 --> 57:52.409
one side, the McKenzie side, is filled with a shit ton of people.

57:52.714 --> 57:56.608
Yeah. Uh, Harriet's side, not so much. Yeah. Apparently she has no other family

57:57.025 --> 58:00.984
because Rose is her maid of honor, but the next person sitting like

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in the front of her side is Ralph, like the woman that we just

58:05.554 --> 58:07.202
met. And there's like— and there's a few other people, but it doesn't look like

58:07.702 --> 58:09.189
she has like parents there or anything, you know what I mean? It's an interesting

58:09.205 --> 58:12.542
thing. So yeah, there's like 20 people on her side and like 200 on Charlie's

58:13.042 --> 58:16.585
side, which I find is kind of interesting. Yeah, definitely a Scottish forward. Yeah,

58:16.858 --> 58:20.484
right. Um, there's a— and, and when she's, uh,

58:20.612 --> 58:24.046
it's her turn to say I do, Harriet, there's a, there's a very long delay,

58:24.062 --> 58:28.153
but she does say it eventually. And then at the reception, we've got Charlie's

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dad, uh, dancing along with a guy who's playing like cheetah pattern bagpipes.

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I've never seen bagpipes that had this, like— it's very interesting. They're like Guy

58:36.880 --> 58:40.500
Fieri's bagpipes. They're the hipper, cooler bagpipes.

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And he's playing If You Think I'm Sexy by Rod Stewart,

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which goes on for a long time. That's right. And then,

58:48.060 --> 58:51.339
and then Harriet makes a request to sing a song. Oh, that's right.

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She wants to sing a song to Charlie. Very, you know, very special. And it's

58:55.200 --> 58:58.540
Only You. So now we've gotten, right, you know,

58:59.040 --> 59:02.180
Charlie's very relaxed. Yeah. Before this song, he feels good about stuff. We, as an

59:02.680 --> 59:05.080
audience, we get Charlie's in danger, Charlie's in danger, Charlie's in danger. A turn.

59:05.580 --> 59:07.754
Oh, no, no, no. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. And then now this is

59:08.254 --> 59:11.046
the first sort of tip back the other direction. Wait, so she does know the

59:11.546 --> 59:14.995
lyrics to Only You? Yeah, that was a question early on, and that's interesting.

59:15.124 --> 59:18.993
And it's not the Only You by 112 featuring Biggie Smalls and

59:19.493 --> 59:22.766
Mase. That actually didn't come out till a few years later. It's a lesser Only

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You, right, she was singing. Very old and lame. Yeah, exactly.

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So then this was a funny thing because I know, just because I've seen the

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movie a lot, that the exterior shots of this place they're going for their

59:33.638 --> 59:37.216
honeymoon, this resort, whatever. Those exterior shots were shot at the

59:37.716 --> 59:41.487
Claremont in Berkeley. Okay. In the hills, right? So however, they used matte

59:41.632 --> 59:44.667
backgrounds to change what the area around it looks like. You don't see like downtown

59:45.167 --> 59:46.754
Berkeley, like, you know, it looks like they're out in the woods or whatever.

59:47.396 --> 59:51.009
But I remember thinking that, oh my god, wait, they're driving across the Golden

59:51.025 --> 59:54.509
Gate Bridge to the north. Here's another chance for me to be a pedantic asshole

59:54.557 --> 59:58.058
about the geography of the Bay Area. No, it's totally legit because they drive north

59:58.106 --> 01:00:01.780
over the Golden Gate Bridge It's the appropriate shot. They're driving along the coast with

01:00:02.280 --> 01:00:05.160
the water on their left. That's appropriate 'cause they're driving north. And then it's a

01:00:05.660 --> 01:00:08.920
fictional place that they arrive. So it's like, there's no geography bullshit that

01:00:09.420 --> 01:00:12.040
I can call out, unfortunately. 'Cause at first I thought I really was gonna fucking

01:00:12.540 --> 01:00:14.520
nail his ass with this. Oh man, it would've been so good. No, they were

01:00:15.020 --> 01:00:18.500
smart to use a fictional location. And this area that they're going is called Poet's

01:00:19.000 --> 01:00:21.040
Corner. There you go, that's right, yeah. Which I think is the name of a

01:00:21.540 --> 01:00:25.580
neighborhood in Pleasant Hill. In Pleasant Hill! With particularly bad crime rates. I totally

01:00:26.080 --> 01:00:28.640
remember that because back when I was house shopping in bad crime neighborhoods, that was

01:00:29.140 --> 01:00:32.400
definitely one of them. It's probably great.

01:00:32.900 --> 01:00:36.200
It's probably $2 million houses now. Now, sure. But I fully said,

01:00:36.700 --> 01:00:39.030
when we were watching this, I said to Jeanie, oh, they're going to Pleasant Hill.

01:00:39.140 --> 01:00:42.540
She's like, what? And again,

01:00:43.040 --> 01:00:46.880
they're going to a place that's themed after his most annoying hobby. It would be

01:00:47.380 --> 01:00:51.120
like someone saying, hey, let's go to the Fantasy Football World Resort for

01:00:51.620 --> 01:00:55.140
our honeymoon. It's called Stadium Swim in Vegas. That's what that's called.

01:00:55.920 --> 01:00:59.840
And Charlie, you mentioned it before, but he has the classic cinema

01:01:00.340 --> 01:01:03.332
bad connection. Convertible, the bad version of a good convertible. It's like old and kind

01:01:03.832 --> 01:01:05.581
of dirty and kind of shitty looking, but it's also like it's a classic.

01:01:05.757 --> 01:01:09.162
It's like, yeah, exactly. It could get one montage, you buff that thing

01:01:09.258 --> 01:01:12.936
up, you can pay for the entire wedding. Yeah. Um, so Tony

01:01:13.145 --> 01:01:16.036
is still suspicious. Well, no, Tony— no, no,

01:01:16.100 --> 01:01:19.360
what happens is Captain Alan Arkin busts in on Tony

01:01:19.392 --> 01:01:22.685
into his office or whatever and is like— and he's doing the— he's doing the

01:01:23.185 --> 01:01:26.700
tough act that Tony wants. I'm like, you, you fucked up again. If I don't

01:01:27.200 --> 01:01:29.770
need— like all kind of stuff. And he says, you know, Captain, what are you

01:01:30.270 --> 01:01:32.570
talking about? What are you talking about? Oh, that woman that confessed to the Ralph

01:01:33.070 --> 01:01:35.230
Elliott murder, she confessed to a few more murders. He goes, I knew she would,

01:01:35.730 --> 01:01:39.310
I knew she would. Yeah, she confessed to the murders of like Abraham Lincoln and

01:01:39.810 --> 01:01:42.570
Julius Caesar, you know, whatever. It's like, oh fuck, like, so she's a nut.

01:01:43.070 --> 01:01:46.230
So she did not kill Ralph. So this gets Tony freaked out because now he

01:01:46.730 --> 01:01:50.030
is worried about— because he and Charlie shared a moment when at the wedding

01:01:50.530 --> 01:01:54.130
when she sang Only You, they shared a little look like, oh damn, that's kind

01:01:54.630 --> 01:01:57.290
of shitty. Uh, we're back below 100% again. Exactly right, we're back at 98,

01:01:57.790 --> 01:02:01.193
99. Now Tony He's at like 80%. Now he's worried because it's like,

01:02:01.209 --> 01:02:04.259
shit, maybe she did kill Ralph. And so he decides he needs to get up

01:02:04.339 --> 01:02:07.357
to where they are, but he goes to call, and this is a weird thing

01:02:07.373 --> 01:02:10.809
that happened. I don't know if this works from like the way telephone systems

01:02:10.905 --> 01:02:14.276
work. He couldn't call up to Poets

01:02:14.292 --> 01:02:18.017
Corner because of a storm. There was something about getting

01:02:18.065 --> 01:02:21.581
his phone call from San Francisco to, you know, let's call it,

01:02:21.661 --> 01:02:23.940
I don't know, Sea Ranch or something. It's somewhere up along the Sonoma Coast,

01:02:23.989 --> 01:02:27.024
right? So he couldn't call. So he He commits,

01:02:27.040 --> 01:02:30.494
like, fucking gets a plane, like, to fly him up

01:02:30.527 --> 01:02:33.788
there. Yeah. And it's Steven Wright, the comedian,

01:02:33.804 --> 01:02:37.549
very funny deadpan comedian, is the pilot. Good to

01:02:38.049 --> 01:02:39.839
see Steven Wright. Absolutely. And then,

01:02:41.849 --> 01:02:44.229
and then it's like when they land, he is able to call.

01:02:44.776 --> 01:02:48.138
It's something weird. Like, why is he able to call through a payphone once they

01:02:48.638 --> 01:02:51.458
land? Yeah, it doesn't make— kind of odd. Doesn't make any sense. But anyway,

01:02:51.606 --> 01:02:53.776
I think I skipped Skip ahead a little there. But it does, it does allow

01:02:53.904 --> 01:02:57.349
us though to see Charlie receiving a phone while he's seated

01:02:57.849 --> 01:03:00.954
at a restaurant, which is a lifelong dream of mine. That is pretty— I really—

01:03:01.098 --> 01:03:05.296
and not my own fucking phone, not my cell phone. I want a, a wired

01:03:05.344 --> 01:03:09.173
phone in a tray, on a silver tray. 100%. If you are answering

01:03:09.525 --> 01:03:12.970
your cell phone at a nice rest— at the table at a nice restaurant in

01:03:13.470 --> 01:03:16.927
the middle of a dining room, you are a fucking asshole. Yep. If a waiter

01:03:16.992 --> 01:03:20.645
or maître d' brings over a corded phone on a platter

01:03:20.661 --> 01:03:24.273
and tells you you have a Not only are you allowed to make that— take

01:03:24.773 --> 01:03:26.522
that call there at the table, everyone else in that room needs to shut the

01:03:27.022 --> 01:03:29.590
fuck up and let you take that call. Exactly. Because clearly you are very important.

01:03:29.879 --> 01:03:33.541
And I mean, you're on the border of being able to pull a, can I

01:03:33.573 --> 01:03:36.304
have the room please, to all the people there at the restaurant.

01:03:36.818 --> 01:03:39.998
If you're in one of those back kind of banquet rooms, you can do that.

01:03:40.063 --> 01:03:42.408
If you're in the main dining room, that's too far. But if you're in one

01:03:42.908 --> 01:03:46.022
of those back rooms that's open for dining but could be a banquet room they

01:03:46.522 --> 01:03:49.122
could close off, totally within your rights to ask for the room to be cleared

01:03:49.622 --> 01:03:52.974
for you. But yeah, what I did skip over though was Tony confirming,

01:03:53.568 --> 01:03:57.083
um, that Harriet was married to all the guys who died. So he like calls,

01:03:57.436 --> 01:03:59.411
you know, somebody who knew the martial arts guy and was like, oh yeah,

01:03:59.443 --> 01:04:02.219
and he like sends a picture. Oh yeah, she like lost weight since then,

01:04:02.572 --> 01:04:05.044
but that's her. And then somebody else was like, oh yeah, she's got her hair—

01:04:05.544 --> 01:04:08.511
hair's longer now, but that was her. So like, he is able to confirm that

01:04:09.011 --> 01:04:12.331
the lounge singer and Ralph and the martial arts guy, all these people were married

01:04:12.443 --> 01:04:16.199
to Harriet. And this, for Tony, is all he needs to be like, 100%,

01:04:16.215 --> 01:04:20.210
she is Mrs. X. Yeah. Charlie's absolutely in danger. danger. Like, this is what's

01:04:20.710 --> 01:04:22.071
going on. And so now he has— this is when he decides he has to

01:04:22.571 --> 01:04:25.552
get the plane and get up to, uh, Poet's Corner. And this is kind of

01:04:26.052 --> 01:04:29.562
like, uh, Scatman Crothers making his way to the, um, to the

01:04:29.611 --> 01:04:32.626
lodge in The Shining. Like, okay, this is an emergency. Like,

01:04:32.642 --> 01:04:35.722
I gotta get there. I can't just go now from there. And there was a

01:04:35.851 --> 01:04:39.396
quick scene of Harriet, like, she had all her makeup and stuff, and she opened

01:04:39.896 --> 01:04:43.150
a big thing of, like, powder foundation and pulled out, uh, it looked like a

01:04:43.650 --> 01:04:46.438
chain with, like, 3 different rings attached to it. So it was like, is that

01:04:46.938 --> 01:04:49.616
her old wedding rings? Must be, right? So we saw that very quickly. It's true.

01:04:50.132 --> 01:04:53.455
Um, so, uh, let's see.

01:04:54.343 --> 01:04:57.085
We get the commandeering a vehicle moment. Yeah, yeah.

01:04:57.795 --> 01:05:00.293
So early on, that was one of the things that Tony complained to the captain

01:05:00.793 --> 01:05:03.546
about, that he hasn't been allowed to do, right? He hasn't chased a criminal across

01:05:04.046 --> 01:05:07.152
a crowded city square. I've never commandeered a vehicle. And Alan Arkin's like, that does

01:05:07.652 --> 01:05:10.209
sound like fun, you know, whatever. So he needs to go get this. So he

01:05:10.709 --> 01:05:13.809
tries to commandeer this vehicle from the airport after landing to

01:05:14.309 --> 01:05:19.242
get the rest of the way to the hotel, and it's Charles Grodin, and he's

01:05:19.742 --> 01:05:21.140
He's like, I need to commandeer this vehicle. And he just goes, no, no,

01:05:21.640 --> 01:05:23.160
I know you actually don't have the power to do that.

01:05:24.740 --> 01:05:27.280
Please.

01:05:27.780 --> 01:05:31.320
Yeah, Charles Grodin was good in this. And then, uh, so at the same time

01:05:31.820 --> 01:05:34.980
where Charlie and Harriet were at the dinner, yeah, and then there's another couple at

01:05:35.480 --> 01:05:38.470
the dinner celebrating, you know, 30 years or a big anniversary.

01:05:38.780 --> 01:05:42.200
So they're doing this creepy thing, which always I see as more

01:05:42.700 --> 01:05:45.400
of like a Game of Thrones type thing than a modern day thing, where it's

01:05:45.900 --> 01:05:47.460
like the honeymoon chair. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So everyone at the restaurant starts getting all

01:05:47.960 --> 01:05:51.600
excited to carry them in this chair back

01:05:52.100 --> 01:05:54.920
to their room so that they can fuck and everyone can just put a glass

01:05:55.420 --> 01:05:57.740
up to the door and listen from the— Just know that they're banging. Why are

01:05:58.240 --> 01:06:02.120
you so interested in this? Um, but Charlie's obviously very uncomfortable with this,

01:06:02.620 --> 01:06:04.920
but this is happening here, and it's kind of hard to fight. Tony was able

01:06:05.420 --> 01:06:09.140
to tell him over the phone, right? Ralph is— you know, basically the person

01:06:09.640 --> 01:06:12.360
who said they killed Ralph was lying. Harriet killed Ralph. Harriet is Mrs. X.

01:06:12.860 --> 01:06:15.060
This is how Tony puts it, because he's done all this confirmation of who she's

01:06:15.560 --> 01:06:18.088
married to. He said, Harriet is Mrs. X. Tony's like, And he tells him there's

01:06:18.104 --> 01:06:21.231
no doubt. Yeah. Like, this is the case. So now Charlie's freaking out. He is

01:06:21.295 --> 01:06:24.807
able, once they get into the, uh, honeymoon suite or whatever, he is able to

01:06:24.839 --> 01:06:28.639
like lock her into the closet, I think, or something

01:06:29.139 --> 01:06:32.375
like that. He locks her in somewhere. Yeah, the closet, I think. Um, but that's

01:06:32.439 --> 01:06:35.358
when Rose is suddenly there wearing the,

01:06:35.566 --> 01:06:38.629
uh, Patrick Bateman, uh, wearing the, the poncho,

01:06:38.950 --> 01:06:42.541
you know, for getting ready to kill fucking— I don't know if that wasn't Jude

01:06:43.041 --> 01:06:45.654
Law. Who was that? Jared Leto, right? That he decided to kill. with the axe

01:06:46.154 --> 01:06:48.337
and everything. And so she's ready to go. She's got the hatchet, she's got the

01:06:48.837 --> 01:06:52.192
thing, and she starts attacking Charlie. Yeah. And now Harriet can see what's

01:06:52.692 --> 01:06:55.726
happening. Wherever she is, she's behind a glass door or something. And so she's now

01:06:56.226 --> 01:06:59.308
screaming at Rose. So now Harriet is realizing what's actually happening, as the audience does,

01:06:59.405 --> 01:07:02.810
as Charlie does. We all get the story at the same time, which is that

01:07:03.099 --> 01:07:06.697
Rose has been killing Harriet's husband. She even yells at Charlie

01:07:06.729 --> 01:07:09.235
like, you tried to take her from me, you tried to come between us,

01:07:10.087 --> 01:07:13.010
so now you're gonna die, kind of thing. It's like, holy shit. Which is like,

01:07:14.440 --> 01:07:16.680
I think there was a thing she said something about, you weren't supposed to be

01:07:17.180 --> 01:07:18.940
in the room, like to Harriet or something like that. There was something, 'cause I'm

01:07:19.440 --> 01:07:22.600
thinking to myself, this is not particularly sneaky. This is not like, how did

01:07:23.100 --> 01:07:26.360
she get away with this 3 times already? It's very, that's the part that becomes

01:07:26.860 --> 01:07:29.760
much less kind of believable about the whole thing. Leaving town used to do a

01:07:30.260 --> 01:07:33.500
lot more for you, I think. Yeah, just moving from town to town.

01:07:33.630 --> 01:07:36.840
Pre-internet, that's a big thing. So Charlie's able, I think, to climb

01:07:37.340 --> 01:07:40.240
out the window, right? Yep, so Charlie's out the window and then they're kind of

01:07:40.740 --> 01:07:44.028
fighting on the roof and of course, you know, bad weather and everything. And we

01:07:44.528 --> 01:07:47.926
got some exciting axe handle, like, trying to chop his fingers as he's hanging off

01:07:47.990 --> 01:07:51.391
the roof. Yep. Um, Tony is trying to

01:07:51.407 --> 01:07:54.616
get into the room to save the day. He cannot kick the door open for

01:07:55.116 --> 01:07:58.594
the life of him. 10 times, 12 times. This old fucking hotel,

01:07:58.626 --> 01:08:01.754
like, it should be easy to police kick a door open in a hotel like

01:08:01.770 --> 01:08:05.235
that, right? Yeah. Uh, and so Tony takes, like, 5 kicks to boot it open.

01:08:05.283 --> 01:08:09.310
At least so many. But he does get in, and of course then, then lets

01:08:09.810 --> 01:08:12.250
Harriet out of the closet. Harriet's like, oh, Tony, good, you're here.

01:08:12.320 --> 01:08:15.450
Charlie's in danger. And he's like, yeah, I know. And he opens the cuffs,

01:08:15.460 --> 01:08:18.740
they're like, you're under arrest. Like, all this stuff. And there's a great

01:08:19.240 --> 01:08:22.680
scene where as Rose— this is my favorite part of this— as Rose is up

01:08:23.180 --> 01:08:27.020
on the roof, yeah, like hacking away at Charlie's— where Charlie's hands

01:08:27.520 --> 01:08:31.280
are, 'cause he's hanging sort of by the awning or whatever. So you

01:08:31.780 --> 01:08:34.540
can hear the thunk, thunk, thunk of the hatchet going into the roof over and

01:08:35.040 --> 01:08:37.920
over again. And Harriet's telling Tony, who's like smoking a cigarette trying to get a

01:08:38.420 --> 01:08:39.920
confession out of her, he's like, we could do this here, we can do this

01:08:40.420 --> 01:08:43.799
downtown. It is funny how he goes to the cops I've seen on TV mode

01:08:44.299 --> 01:08:47.699
immediately. Like, he's too juiced up. He got to commandeer a car. There's no

01:08:48.199 --> 01:08:51.119
landing that guy's ego. Yeah, I mean, to be fair, he got a ride.

01:08:51.619 --> 01:08:54.219
Like, he didn't commandeer anything. But in his mind, he's the real cop. Exactly.

01:08:54.719 --> 01:08:57.039
First time. But he's kind of like— she's like, you can hear them, they're on

01:08:57.539 --> 01:09:00.599
the roof. Like, go save Charlie, he is gonna be killed. Go. Like, you know,

01:09:01.099 --> 01:09:04.319
and he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. We get a mutual,

01:09:04.819 --> 01:09:08.199
uh, nut shot, uh, when they're, when they're fighting up there on the roof.

01:09:08.699 --> 01:09:12.072
Well, not really nut, but just The— she, uh, Rose gets Charlie in the

01:09:12.572 --> 01:09:15.965
nuts and then he kicks her in that same area, which she seems to react

01:09:16.465 --> 01:09:19.410
like it hurt as much. Which, I mean, I'm sure it hurts. It hurts.

01:09:19.587 --> 01:09:22.054
It's— I mean, look, I remember I was in 3rd or 4th grade, I saw

01:09:22.554 --> 01:09:25.596
a girl get kicked between the legs because some kid said, oh, girls don't have

01:09:26.096 --> 01:09:29.057
anything there, this won't hurt. And that is not true. That is not what happened.

01:09:29.105 --> 01:09:32.165
That girl got hurt bad, you know, because somebody kicked her. Like, it doesn't matter

01:09:32.665 --> 01:09:34.761
where you get kicked, you get kicked hard enough, right? So yeah, so she reacts.

01:09:34.809 --> 01:09:37.960
The thing about it is that when Charlie got Like, I think

01:09:38.460 --> 01:09:40.780
they were wrestling over the ax at the time. They both had their hands on

01:09:41.280 --> 01:09:43.780
the hatchet. If he got kicked in the nuts, there's no way he is maintaining

01:09:44.280 --> 01:09:47.720
control of that hatchet to keep her from plowing it into

01:09:48.220 --> 01:09:51.680
his skull at that point, while also keeping his footing on the curved,

01:09:52.180 --> 01:09:55.640
you know, on a pitched, wet roof. Like, the number of things that

01:09:56.140 --> 01:10:00.400
he had to simultaneously handle was like, no. Getting kicked in the nuts absolutely zeros

01:10:00.900 --> 01:10:04.880
out that ledger. Like, you are fucked. That would be a death blow for sure.

01:10:05.040 --> 01:10:06.480
100%. Yeah. You're either getting the ax in the head at that point, or you're

01:10:06.980 --> 01:10:10.120
falling off the roof. off the roof 30 feet to the ground and dying

01:10:10.620 --> 01:10:14.300
that way. Either way. But Charlie overcomes

01:10:14.800 --> 01:10:18.360
in the fight and is able to get himself saved. Rose gets taken

01:10:18.860 --> 01:10:22.060
in. Yep. And Rose is arrested. Rose is arrested. She doesn't even

01:10:22.560 --> 01:10:25.040
seem unhappy about it. No, she's kind of just like, all right, well, this is

01:10:25.540 --> 01:10:27.220
the next thing I'm doing. I think it's just like, yeah, she was kind of

01:10:27.720 --> 01:10:29.740
like, well, I was gonna get caught at some point. Yeah. And it was this

01:10:30.240 --> 01:10:34.000
time. All right. Like, so yeah, that's pretty much it. And we get the 3rd

01:10:34.500 --> 01:10:37.860
music drop of The Laws. There She Goes, as we kind of roll into

01:10:37.966 --> 01:10:40.790
the, the closing credits. There's not really anything else to it. Yeah, we got a

01:10:41.290 --> 01:10:44.336
final poem, uh, by Charlie. That's right, I forgot about the final poem.

01:10:44.400 --> 01:10:47.288
So, so he's got his poem that kind of sums up, you know, a lot

01:10:47.788 --> 01:10:51.284
of the stuff that, that happened. Uh, it was good. So yeah, life continues now.

01:10:51.460 --> 01:10:55.793
So Charlie and Harriet are married and they're living off a single butcher

01:10:56.293 --> 01:10:59.804
shop wage, uh, to cover 2 apartments in San Francisco,

01:10:59.884 --> 01:11:03.077
and including that loft that apparently is half Rose's, and she's

01:11:03.577 --> 01:11:05.869
not helping out with now. So there's a mortgage or rent on that, whatever.

01:11:05.966 --> 01:11:08.882
it is. Like, I'm sure she was contributing something, not that we know what she

01:11:09.382 --> 01:11:12.375
does. Like, we don't— we know nobody's jobs in this entire movie except we know

01:11:12.875 --> 01:11:16.686
Tony's a cop, Harriet owns a butcher shop, Stuart was once a butcher. Yeah,

01:11:16.702 --> 01:11:20.195
yeah. I don't think we've got a job for anybody else that aren't people that

01:11:20.227 --> 01:11:22.487
were met in those jobs, you know what I mean? Like, like the captain and

01:11:22.987 --> 01:11:25.451
stuff. But yeah, but that, uh, that is So I Married the Next Murderer.

01:11:25.996 --> 01:11:29.201
All right. Okay, so look, I, I love

01:11:29.701 --> 01:11:32.970
this movie. I really do love this movie, but I'm also pretty realistic about this

01:11:33.470 --> 01:11:37.070
movie. It is not something that is like— this isn't one of

01:11:37.570 --> 01:11:39.230
those movies that I'm like, oh my God, if you haven't seen this, like,

01:11:39.730 --> 01:11:42.130
you've got to see it. Like, I love it. I enjoy it. Like I said,

01:11:42.630 --> 01:11:45.030
a lot of it is shorthand between my wife and I. Negatory, good buddy.

01:11:45.530 --> 01:11:47.910
We've got a Piper Doon. Like, these are things that we just like, we'll find

01:11:48.410 --> 01:11:50.730
ways to like fit into everyday conversation. Yeah. And that's so much fun. And I'll

01:11:51.230 --> 01:11:54.890
love that forever. It's a good movie. I do recommend it. I don't

01:11:55.390 --> 01:11:58.390
think it's one you need to like rush out and see. So with a little

01:11:58.890 --> 01:12:01.390
nostalgia bump, like I do with— like I did with Summer Rental, I'm going with

01:12:01.890 --> 01:12:04.289
a 3.5 out of 5 on So I Married an Actor. Murderer. I think it's

01:12:04.789 --> 01:12:07.966
very enjoyable, you know, but it is not without its flaws. And, and,

01:12:07.998 --> 01:12:10.952
and we've, I think, covered most of those. Yeah, last hour or so.

01:12:11.434 --> 01:12:14.244
But yeah, so what is your take, Nick, on So I Married an Axe Murderer?

01:12:14.405 --> 01:12:17.953
Yeah, I mean, so not having seen this, right, I didn't have the,

01:12:18.130 --> 01:12:22.144
the built-in nostalgia and stuff. And, and with

01:12:22.192 --> 01:12:25.500
a lot of comedies that I hadn't seen that are from the

01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:28.775
'80s and '90s, watching them now, like, comedy is tough. Comedy is tough to hold

01:12:28.952 --> 01:12:32.884
up. Um, this was surrounded by some great Mike

01:12:33.384 --> 01:12:36.206
Myers stuff. I love Wayne's World. Wayne's World 2 holds up so well.

01:12:36.334 --> 01:12:39.849
Austin Powers, still great. Uh, and for some reason,

01:12:39.929 --> 01:12:42.978
I feel like with Mike Myers is kind of the same, uh,

01:12:42.994 --> 01:12:46.637
to me as Sacha Baron Cohen, where I like him when he's in a costume.

01:12:46.830 --> 01:12:49.349
Sure. But I don't really like him when he's just like being a guy.

01:12:50.200 --> 01:12:53.778
Um, and, uh, and again, like with what we talked about at the beginning,

01:12:53.891 --> 01:12:57.373
where this script was not the original

01:12:57.873 --> 01:13:00.101
I, I think that it could have been better if it was just scrapped.

01:13:00.165 --> 01:13:03.230
Like, let's take the general outline of it and just redo it.

01:13:03.278 --> 01:13:06.728
Yeah. Rather than keep trying to like change and rework and rework,

01:13:06.984 --> 01:13:10.450
because then it became a kind of a jumbled thing. Like, the idea

01:13:10.579 --> 01:13:14.317
of it's a thriller but it's a comedy is interesting.

01:13:14.365 --> 01:13:17.623
And like, the, the, the plot ideas— I like the cameos.

01:13:17.879 --> 01:13:21.746
I liked, uh, I liked Alan Arkin. I liked Grodin a lot. I love

01:13:22.246 --> 01:13:25.373
Charles Grodin, man. Phil Hartman is great in this. Phil Hartman, Steven Wright. We got

01:13:25.873 --> 01:13:28.984
some really, uh, some really good people in this. in there. Overall though, a lot

01:13:29.484 --> 01:13:32.739
of the jokes didn't work that well for me. I didn't like Mike

01:13:33.239 --> 01:13:36.013
Myers' character. I was not rooting for him in any way. Like we talked about,

01:13:36.334 --> 01:13:38.773
he doesn't have a job. Like, what does he do? What is he offering this

01:13:39.273 --> 01:13:43.059
woman except for a very niche type of humor that only she thinks is

01:13:43.155 --> 01:13:46.397
funny? Because he's never— he's not— other than the would you rather scene,

01:13:46.445 --> 01:13:49.944
he's not like riffing with his buds. It seems like he's more subjecting

01:13:49.992 --> 01:13:53.057
everybody to his shit than like going along. Fair.

01:13:54.310 --> 01:13:57.850
Fair. So I wasn't a huge fan of this. I definitely see why people like

01:13:58.350 --> 01:14:01.170
it, and everyone has told me I'm wrong to not like this movie. But for

01:14:01.670 --> 01:14:03.850
me, So I Married an Axe Murderer is just a 2 out of 5 for

01:14:04.350 --> 01:14:07.060
me. 2 out of 5. Right. So it gets us to 5.5 out of 10,

01:14:07.150 --> 01:14:10.250
which is, you know, we're there with Rotten Tomatoes. We are kind of right at

01:14:10.750 --> 01:14:13.850
5.5. Yes, right there. So yeah, so that is how we land on So I

01:14:14.350 --> 01:14:17.870
Married an Axe Murderer. And Nick, what hilarious comedy

01:14:18.370 --> 01:14:21.090
are you going to bring to the table next week? Yeah, so I thought we'd

01:14:21.590 --> 01:14:24.601
continue the run of hilarious comedies. No, so,

01:14:25.018 --> 01:14:28.367
uh, I had something different picked, but when I slotted this one in,

01:14:28.864 --> 01:14:32.421
it was for a couple reasons. Uh, we talk sometimes about how many episodes we've

01:14:32.921 --> 01:14:35.402
done. We're on, what, like 70-something now, right? 75, I think.

01:14:35.450 --> 01:14:39.296
75. And, uh, and there's certain people that we haven't seen yet who are

01:14:39.796 --> 01:14:43.254
such big stars of this era. So this movie is— A,

01:14:43.542 --> 01:14:46.378
it's one of my wife's favorite movies. I've watched it.

01:14:46.490 --> 01:14:49.856
I, I really have enjoyed it over the years, and it brings us some

01:14:50.356 --> 01:14:53.480
people we haven't seen yet. Okay. Uh, and we're gonna get to see Tom Cruise

01:14:53.980 --> 01:14:57.180
for the first time. Big. We're gonna get to see Jack Nicholson for the first

01:14:57.680 --> 01:15:00.380
time. Huge. Uh, and bigger than all that, we get to see Kevin Pollak for

01:15:00.880 --> 01:15:02.500
the first time. Oh, thank God. I was wondering when we were gonna get to

01:15:03.000 --> 01:15:05.700
Kevin Pollak, man. Does he do any impressions in this one? Because I really love

01:15:06.200 --> 01:15:10.900
it when he does impressions. All right. Um, so we are gonna watch 1992's

01:15:11.400 --> 01:15:14.540
courtroom military thriller drama A Few Good Men.

01:15:15.040 --> 01:15:18.280
Yes, I love A Few Good Good Men. I'm a huge fan. Uh,

01:15:18.780 --> 01:15:21.320
I think this will be the first time we've got an Aaron Sorkin-penned screenplay.

01:15:21.580 --> 01:15:24.460
Yeah, this is the first time we'll see Demi Moore, I think. Yeah, I think

01:15:24.960 --> 01:15:28.360
you're right. First time we'll see Kiefer Sutherland. Yeah, I think probably at least

01:15:28.860 --> 01:15:31.960
one or two more, maybe. No, sec, I feel like no.

01:15:32.460 --> 01:15:34.960
Uh, oh no, Executive Decision we didn't do on this podcast, right? Right, we did

01:15:35.460 --> 01:15:37.460
that on Cinema 9 because he was in that. That's a good point, might be

01:15:37.960 --> 01:15:40.340
the first J.T. Walsh for us. Like, yeah, a lot. Like, this is, this is

01:15:40.840 --> 01:15:44.290
a wonderful 6 Degrees of Kevin Bacon movie. has Kevin Bacon in it,

01:15:44.790 --> 01:15:48.290
but it is just like the cast is stacked. Yes. And it's such a different

01:15:48.790 --> 01:15:52.650
kind of movie where it's just like, this is script and acting and dialogue as

01:15:53.150 --> 01:15:56.790
opposed to like a First Blood type thing where it's explosions and grunts, you know?

01:15:57.290 --> 01:15:59.170
100%. And, and we'll get into it obviously next week when we watch it.

01:15:59.670 --> 01:16:01.130
First of all, yes, thank you so much for bringing it. One of my favorite

01:16:01.630 --> 01:16:03.920
movies of all time. Absolutely excited to talk about it with you next week.

01:16:04.090 --> 01:16:06.350
Um, you know, and I'm sure you knew this because it says it up front

01:16:06.850 --> 01:16:08.930
of the movie, but like, uh, this was a play originally, and a couple of

01:16:09.430 --> 01:16:13.263
Aaron Sorkin's early movies Malice starring Alec Baldwin was also originally a play. And there

01:16:13.311 --> 01:16:17.290
is a feel to movies when they're adapted

01:16:17.790 --> 01:16:21.092
from stage plays. 100%. You nailed most of it, right? It's kind of the character

01:16:21.592 --> 01:16:25.424
dialogue acting core of it really has to land and be really great.

01:16:25.744 --> 01:16:29.290
And then you'll notice how few locations there really are. There's like, you know,

01:16:29.354 --> 01:16:32.771
I think in this movie, 4 or 5, like that really dominate kind of everything.

01:16:33.365 --> 01:16:36.280
And because it's not on stage, they will throw in, you know, other other places

01:16:36.780 --> 01:16:39.960
they go that maybe would have been inferred potentially on stage play.

01:16:40.460 --> 01:16:42.600
But yeah, it's like really cool. So, all right, A Few Good Men next week.

01:16:42.640 --> 01:16:46.520
That's fantastic. I think you're absolutely right to finally bring us Tom Cruise

01:16:47.020 --> 01:16:51.420
and Jack Nicholson and these other actors. It's like Kevin Pollak, most importantly, of course.

01:16:51.920 --> 01:16:54.620
Yeah, so that's what we will watch. And I think we might have a third

01:16:55.120 --> 01:16:58.350
mic for that podcast, actually. Not a dad,

01:16:58.570 --> 01:17:01.854
but since it's one of her favorite movies, she's going to Join

01:17:01.966 --> 01:17:05.833
us for the recording next Wednesday morning when we wake up at five a.m.

01:17:06.298 --> 01:17:09.603
My wife Jeannie is going to join us for it. That's fantastic. I should let

01:17:10.103 --> 01:17:12.251
you know though, the episodes have been coming out at three a.m. Pacific ever since

01:17:12.751 --> 01:17:16.310
our buddy Jeff Harrow asked them to be there for his five a.m.

01:17:16.358 --> 01:17:19.775
Central dog walk. Okay. Do that for him. So yeah. So even earlier,

01:17:19.791 --> 01:17:22.679
we got to make sure that Jeannie's here at three to do that. So yeah.

01:17:23.064 --> 01:17:26.289
Cool. Very much looking forward to that as well. That's a wrap.

01:17:26.674 --> 01:17:28.536
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