WEBVTT 00:00.807 --> 00:04.272 Double down. What? You got an 11. You always double down on 11. I know, 00:04.353 --> 00:08.108 but it's $200. It's blood money, Mike. You gotta double down. I can't double 00:08.608 --> 00:11.058 down. Mike, if you don't look like you know what you're doing, I'm gonna walk. 00:11.122 --> 00:13.333 Just shut up, man. I can't look like I know what you're doing. For a 00:13.833 --> 00:16.415 second, shut up. Mike, I'm telling you, if you don't look like you know what 00:16.463 --> 00:18.847 you're doing, I'm gonna punch you. You make a mistake, you double down. 00:21.759 --> 00:23.238 It's nice. 00:25.409 --> 00:26.728 18. Good. 18's good. 00:34.030 --> 00:35.243 12. 16. 00:39.013 --> 00:39.531 21. 00:43.042 --> 00:45.704 I'm telling you, baby, you always double down on the left. Yeah, well, obviously not 00:46.204 --> 00:49.948 always. Always, baby. I'm just saying not in this particular case. You always 00:50.061 --> 00:53.197 double down. I lost, okay? How could you see— The lady has 11. What would 00:53.697 --> 00:57.370 you like to do? Um, I hit. 15. 00:58.459 --> 01:02.790 I don't know what to do here. I'll hit again. 01:03.178 --> 01:06.750 17. Uh, okay, 01:07.057 --> 01:09.175 I'll hit down. Okay. 01:09.886 --> 01:13.139 21. Oh my gosh, 21! I got it! 01:13.705 --> 01:16.941 I got it! Thank you! Hooray! 01:17.248 --> 01:21.361 Would you like to have some breakfast this morning, ma'am? Oh, I really shouldn't. 01:21.765 --> 01:24.892 But then again, it's a good idea. I'd love it. Thank you so much. 01:25.231 --> 01:29.164 Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. 01:29.310 --> 01:32.646 You'll fix me up. 01:33.614 --> 01:37.274 That one, 29, baby. You have 20 bucks. You know, I mean, 01:37.323 --> 01:41.275 not counting what happened on the first table. Yeah, thanks for clarifying that. 01:42.545 --> 01:46.128 It's 2 Dads 1 Movie. It's the podcast where two middle-aged dads 01:46.160 --> 01:48.954 sit around and shoot the shit about the movies of the '80s and '90s. 01:49.003 --> 01:53.168 Here are your hosts, Steve Paulo Steve Paulo and Nic Briana. 01:54.690 --> 01:57.831 Hello everybody, welcome to another episode of 2 Dads 1 Movie. 01:57.911 --> 02:01.581 I'm Steve. And I'm Nic. And today we are talking about the 1996 02:01.597 --> 02:05.347 cult classic Swingers. This is part of our 2 Dads 2 02:05.847 --> 02:09.978 Decades run. We're at 1996 now. And this was my selection 02:10.074 --> 02:13.455 for us. Yeah. And you know, it's funny, Nic, I remember we got an email 02:13.955 --> 02:17.397 like really early on doing this podcast, maybe like 5 or 6 episodes in from 02:17.766 --> 02:20.747 a mutual friend of ours, closer to you these days, but somebody I knew in 02:21.247 --> 02:25.060 high school as well, Jeff Harrow. Yeah. Jeff mentioned that I sort of browbeat an 02:25.560 --> 02:29.356 entire cast party worth of people at our friend Jason's house into watching this one 02:29.404 --> 02:33.171 night because I was just telling— it was probably like '97 or '98— just 02:33.671 --> 02:35.255 telling everybody how great a movie it is. You haven't seen it, you got to 02:35.755 --> 02:37.595 see it, you know, kind of thing. And I think there was some resistance. 02:37.659 --> 02:40.625 And then we watched it and it was like it won everybody over. It was 02:41.125 --> 02:44.023 just a thing that, you know, everybody loved. And, you know, I think there were 02:44.055 --> 02:47.790 friend groups across the country who had a swingers vector like you who 02:47.822 --> 02:51.125 was there to like project it into to like a further group and help spread 02:51.625 --> 02:54.188 the word. So yeah, you were an important guy. That's right. There you go. 02:54.557 --> 02:57.860 I was, we were all theater kids. This, like I said, based on where Jeff 02:58.360 --> 03:01.116 said it happened, oh, that must've been a cast party kind of thing. And also 03:01.164 --> 03:04.339 then my, as it turns out, just a year later, my college roommate in Chico, 03:04.595 --> 03:08.492 couple years later, I guess it was actually, was a huge Lindy Hop dancer and 03:08.588 --> 03:12.229 ended up being part of why Big Bad Voodoo Daddy played the Chico State campus 03:12.918 --> 03:15.869 in probably 2000 or late '99, something like that. Nice. And I ended up watching 03:15.901 --> 03:18.915 them. There as well. Um, but yeah, this movie like does, 03:19.107 --> 03:22.137 has so much for me and I'm going to get into some of the specifics, 03:22.153 --> 03:25.471 but like it just the, the, I mean, we'll get into all of it. 03:25.583 --> 03:28.004 I can't even do it. This was an incredibly important movie to me. This was 03:28.504 --> 03:30.488 a movie that showed me that you can write a movie about hanging out. 03:30.873 --> 03:34.127 Yeah. You can make a movie about hanging out. You can, uh, 03:34.560 --> 03:37.718 you don't need to like make, uh, 03:38.167 --> 03:41.645 characters that are like fantastical or out of this, whatever. There's people 03:42.145 --> 03:44.739 that, you know, like we all know, knew these guys, dude. 100%. You know, 03:44.996 --> 03:47.977 these particular characters were probably, you know, about 10 years older than us. 03:48.190 --> 03:50.412 Give or take, you know, 8 to 10 years older than we were at the 03:50.912 --> 03:53.133 time. But like, we all knew these guys, and then into our 20s we met 03:53.633 --> 03:56.161 these guys. Yeah. Uh, and it's just incredible that way. And, you know, this is, 03:56.579 --> 04:00.630 you know, the feature writing debut for Jon Favreau, who obviously became— has become, 04:00.936 --> 04:03.827 you know, a massive, uh, sort of force in Hollywood, 04:03.843 --> 04:06.925 obviously. Uh, and, and it gave us the start of Vince Vaughn's career. 04:07.553 --> 04:10.483 Some people like that, some people don't, but yeah. Yeah. So I mean, like I 04:10.983 --> 04:12.141 said, this is a movie— I'm gonna get into all the details why as we 04:12.641 --> 04:14.862 go on, but this is a hugely important movie to me in my history. 04:15.200 --> 04:20.326 Nic, what's your history with Swingers? You know, it's so funny now that that 04:20.826 --> 04:23.549 I know you so well and watching this movie and realizing, like, 04:24.175 --> 04:27.157 I love this movie. I've always really enjoyed this movie. It's just, 04:27.382 --> 04:31.054 it's, it's such a fun hang movie, right? It's like, you know, these guys 04:31.166 --> 04:33.715 going on an adventure and fun night out and all this good stuff. 04:34.132 --> 04:37.259 But there's so much in it specifically for you, so I can't wait 04:37.759 --> 04:40.434 to get it. So I was just like, oh my God, that's why this is 04:40.530 --> 04:42.968 going to make Steve's head explode. Like, everything in this, uh, 04:43.753 --> 04:46.527 everything it has for him. But so I caught this one, um, 04:47.042 --> 04:50.728 probably around the same time, probably weeks after you introduced it at the cast 04:51.228 --> 04:54.063 party, it trickled its way down to me. Um, 04:54.480 --> 04:57.589 and, uh, and man, it's just— it's fun. 04:57.766 --> 05:01.373 It's guys that I thought at the time were like super cool, guys that I 05:01.389 --> 05:05.059 wanted to be. And like, the way I feel about this movie has evolved 05:05.559 --> 05:09.372 over time. Like, the way an 18-year-old sees these guys versus the way a 40-something 05:09.804 --> 05:13.331 sees these guys would be different. But I think it's still a valuable experience, 05:13.347 --> 05:16.377 and I, and I loved it, and it was so quotable. And there's so much 05:16.877 --> 05:19.887 in our daily life where I'll say it and realize watching this like, oh dude, 05:19.903 --> 05:23.109 that's from Swingers, just a throwaway line there. And then we would just say that 05:23.609 --> 05:26.764 all the time. So yeah, very strong history with this. One of my favorites. 05:26.860 --> 05:30.708 Can't wait to talk about it. I have a feeling we're telegraphing the end 05:30.788 --> 05:33.224 of our episode here a little bit about just how much you and I like 05:33.724 --> 05:36.270 it. We'll get there obviously, but I don't think we're not coming into this with 05:36.318 --> 05:39.989 like a lot of misconceptions or mystery around 05:40.037 --> 05:43.468 our own histories with it. So that's kind of fun. Let's jump into the facts 05:44.013 --> 05:46.834 on Swingers. The movie Swingers was released on October 18th, 05:46.850 --> 05:50.056 1996 with an R rating and a running time of 96 05:50.104 --> 05:53.413 minutes. It was directed by Doug Liman, who would go on to direct some really 05:53.445 --> 05:57.225 great stuff like Go and The Bourne Identity, and then something really terrible that 05:57.725 --> 06:00.244 I hate him forever for, which is the Road House remake with Jake Gyllenhaal. 06:00.390 --> 06:03.908 Written by Jon Favreau, starring Jon Favreau, Vince Vaughn, and Ron Livingston. 06:04.909 --> 06:07.862 Scores on Rotten Tomatoes, an 87%, super healthy. 06:08.040 --> 06:11.096 IMDb, a 7.2. I was actually a little surprised by that score. I thought it 06:11.596 --> 06:15.467 would be more in that 7.5 ballpark, but— Especially, it tends to favor like 06:15.531 --> 06:19.400 the more cult classics that have a later coming appreciation. 06:19.664 --> 06:23.592 IMDb scores would be pumped, but yeah, that's surprising. We did get 2 thumbs up 06:23.641 --> 06:28.151 from the homies Siskel and Ebert. Love them. There was one significant award nomination. 06:28.491 --> 06:32.015 Oh no, sorry, it was actually a win. Yes. At the 1997 MTV 06:32.515 --> 06:35.986 Movie Awards, Doug Liman won Best New Filmmaker for this movie and 06:36.002 --> 06:39.489 for his work directing it. So there's that. And then Go is right 06:39.989 --> 06:42.637 down the pipe of MTV Movie Awards. Oh my God. So he really rewarded them 06:43.137 --> 06:45.510 for giving him that. I haven't looked ahead. I'm sure we'll do— I'm sure we'll 06:45.526 --> 06:47.849 do Go at some point. It was literally like, yeah, like '99 or something. 06:48.059 --> 06:50.205 I'm sure we'll do that movie at some point. I didn't look ahead to see 06:50.531 --> 06:51.953 how it did at the 2000 MTV Movie Awards. I have a feeling— I have 06:52.453 --> 06:56.647 a feeling probably did pretty well on a $200,000 06:56.727 --> 06:59.612 budget. I love how many of these movies we're getting these days that are like, 06:59.628 --> 07:02.482 you know, a million or less, right? The number of movies we've done like that, 07:02.514 --> 07:05.447 it made $4.5 million at the box office, 22 times. And I was a little 07:05.947 --> 07:09.759 surprised by that because I remember the sort of understanding the context of this movie 07:09.936 --> 07:13.238 as a sort of bomb that became a cult classic. But it certainly wasn't by 07:13.738 --> 07:16.716 no means a bomb, right? A shit ton of money, 22 times what it cost. 07:17.406 --> 07:20.580 So it was, you know, obviously not a huge hit in like nominal dollars, 07:20.612 --> 07:24.283 but based on what it cost to make and, and, you know, the later careers 07:24.783 --> 07:26.335 of a lot of the people in it, Ron Livingston Livingston's a funny one. 07:26.383 --> 07:29.354 We'll get to him in a couple weeks as well. But, but, uh, you know, 07:29.514 --> 07:32.340 he really looked like he was poised to completely break out and be, and be 07:32.840 --> 07:36.113 a huge star. And it's kind of just— I'm not sure what happened. We'll look 07:36.613 --> 07:38.650 into Ron at some point. We should do a whole What Ifs episode. That could 07:39.150 --> 07:41.990 be cool. Yeah, like, well, a little, a little Lori Petty, a little, a little 07:42.343 --> 07:45.779 Ron Livingston, you know. Uh, but yeah, those are the facts on Swingers. 07:46.678 --> 07:50.066 And, uh, I think we can get started with the very beginning, which is— I, 07:50.146 --> 07:54.031 I— there's the— this movie opens up and it immediately tells you something 07:54.240 --> 07:58.349 that it's going to do for 95 minutes, which is give your ears just 07:58.849 --> 08:02.249 the most wonderful sound bath that they've had in a long time. The soundtrack in 08:02.749 --> 08:05.957 this movie is spectacular. Start to finish. Amazing. And I mean, 08:06.021 --> 08:09.616 literally from the opening credits to the closing credits, 08:09.633 --> 08:13.581 those two bookends are amazing songs. By the way, they're both in my regular 08:14.081 --> 08:16.855 karaoke répertoire these days. My, my, my, yeah, 08:17.176 --> 08:20.322 my portfolio of karaoke songs. If you 08:20.402 --> 08:23.304 join the Platinum tier on our Patreon in a couple months, you will get to 08:23.804 --> 08:27.601 do karaoke with Steve. There's no— yeah, okay. Anyway, um, but this 08:28.101 --> 08:31.112 was funny too because this was, uh, so my birthday is Frank Sinatra's birthday. 08:31.385 --> 08:34.832 So it just— that's— I learned in '94 with— 08:35.332 --> 08:37.557 from my drama teacher that— that because he was a huge Sinatra fan, I learned 08:38.057 --> 08:40.716 that Frank Sinatra's birthday is December 12th, just like mine. Nice. And so, um, 08:41.229 --> 08:44.516 when this movie came out, my like Christmas list that year— because 08:45.016 --> 08:46.969 this came out in October, right? So my like birthday and Christmas list that year 08:47.001 --> 08:50.848 included the Swinger soundtrack, but also like Best of Dean Martin, Best of 08:50.864 --> 08:53.718 Bobby Darin, Best of, you know, like everybody, like Sinatra, like all these. 08:53.990 --> 08:56.347 I really wanted to get into this whole like crooners thing, not because I wanted 08:56.847 --> 08:58.895 to like dress like them or pretend like I was in the Rat Pack. 08:58.959 --> 09:02.085 I literally was dressing like the Dave Matthews fan that I was at the time, 09:02.101 --> 09:05.436 you know, that thing. But just something about this music drew me 09:05.596 --> 09:08.962 in. So it was this— was it this movie that first kind 09:09.462 --> 09:13.547 of like got you into that, or this combined with knowing that Sinatra's birthday 09:13.611 --> 09:16.913 was the same as yours? The initial spark was my drama teacher would tell me 09:17.413 --> 09:19.879 that, and then he would play like Sinatra stuff, kind of like whatever, because I 09:20.379 --> 09:22.707 was like a TA for him too. So I'd just be in the drama room 09:23.207 --> 09:26.001 for a while for my TA class and he would just play it. And I 09:26.501 --> 09:28.556 was like, "This is fucking pretty cool." Like, I dig it. You know, I kind 09:29.056 --> 09:32.242 of got it. But it was, yeah, it was combining that music with this movie 09:32.839 --> 09:36.067 and the cool factor of the movie and everything that went, that was like pushed 09:36.567 --> 09:38.520 it over the edge of like, "Okay, I gotta get more into this." And now 09:38.585 --> 09:42.399 it's like Yummy Night on top of, you know, pop punk and 09:42.431 --> 09:45.436 jam bands and hip hop. I listen to like Michael Bublé. You know what I 09:45.936 --> 09:48.553 mean? It's just part of my standard rotation. And I thank this song. 09:49.019 --> 09:50.541 But we, let's move in because we haven't even started the movie yet. But yeah, 09:50.557 --> 09:54.046 we start off with, "You're nobody till somebody loves you." by Dean Martin. And it's 09:54.546 --> 09:58.443 this great photo montage, wonderful, like nightlife photos of LA that all have this really 09:58.475 --> 10:02.212 cool-looking similar blur effect around the light. It just 10:02.244 --> 10:05.375 looks great. It's— it just makes you feel like your friend's showing 10:05.391 --> 10:08.651 you a bunch of photos. Hey, yeah, they even got a slide in a 10:09.151 --> 10:12.345 little, you know. Yeah, really well done. And again, on a low budget. 10:12.409 --> 10:15.752 Yeah. What an effective intro that doesn't cost anything, right? Yeah. There's no way— you 10:16.252 --> 10:19.014 don't need the computers or anything. You literally toss these little photos, you know, 10:19.079 --> 10:22.327 into the— really cool stuff. And yeah, we're basically 10:22.409 --> 10:26.065 getting a real quick idea of like what you know, LA nightlife looks 10:26.565 --> 10:29.817 like in the mid-'90s for 20-somethings. Frankly, it looks like a 10:30.010 --> 10:33.504 fair amount of fun. It doesn't look too crazy. It's not like a rave scene. 10:33.553 --> 10:36.510 It's not like that, right? Yeah. It's just kind of— It's not bottle service style. 10:36.704 --> 10:40.408 It's very— Yeah, exactly. It's a little more low-key. It's both 10:40.440 --> 10:43.496 not Vegas and it's not LA in the 2000s, right? Right. That's kind of where 10:43.512 --> 10:46.694 we're at. So then we, when the intro kind of ends, 10:47.112 --> 10:50.181 we get taken to the Hollywood Hills Coffee Shop, which we will be 10:50.681 --> 10:53.607 at 3 or 4 times in this movie, a standard location here. And we've got 10:54.107 --> 10:56.972 2 men. We've got Mike, Jon Favreau, and we've got Rob, Ron Livingston, 10:57.182 --> 11:00.726 sitting there talking to each other. And basically Mike 11:01.226 --> 11:04.465 is talking about how he, you know, his girlfriend hasn't, his ex-girlfriend hasn't called. 11:05.113 --> 11:07.765 And we get the sense, we don't get like the whole story. They don't ever 11:08.265 --> 11:10.417 bother telling us exactly what happened, what order, but we get the gist of like 11:10.773 --> 11:14.621 Mike moved from Brooklyn or Queens, I think, out west to 11:14.702 --> 11:18.302 LA to like really try to kickstart his career. He's an aspiring actor. 11:18.351 --> 11:21.530 He's a standup comic. And he had to leave his girlfriend 11:21.579 --> 11:24.434 of 6 years at the time. And so she was like, okay, if you're leaving, 11:24.485 --> 11:27.907 like we're done. And she hasn't even called, you know, he's freaking 11:28.407 --> 11:31.981 out because she hasn't called, which is like, you know, it's not— it's a 11:32.481 --> 11:35.975 very vulnerable Mike at this point, right? He's very kind of in his own feels. 11:36.151 --> 11:38.509 Yeah. You know, dealing with that. And Rob's just trying to help him out. 11:38.717 --> 11:41.781 And Rob is trying to help him out. And within the first couple sentences of 11:42.281 --> 11:46.496 this, you get the full sense that Rob is exhausted by having this conversation constantly 11:46.512 --> 11:49.656 with Mike. But he's a very good friend and he's his friend from back home. 11:49.976 --> 11:52.975 So he's kind of like new to L.A. So Mike is the guy he knows 11:53.008 --> 11:56.118 in L.A. This is my dude to hang with. But, you know, he's, he's a 11:56.618 --> 11:58.537 good friend and he's hearing him out, but he's also trying to give him some 11:58.553 --> 12:01.886 advice during this conversation. Yeah. And where he starts to tell him, like, you know, 12:01.966 --> 12:05.972 after a while you stop missing them. Yeah. You know, but you 12:06.472 --> 12:09.658 can't do that on purpose. And like this very good, 12:09.674 --> 12:13.039 like, philosophizing of something that's just like, 12:13.343 --> 12:16.724 yeah, you got to wait, bro. Yeah. And it's done. And it's so funny that 12:17.224 --> 12:19.528 when I keep these in mind, because both the image of Mike and Rob, 12:19.544 --> 12:23.086 in this case, sitting at this, at this coffee shop and the conversation they're having 12:23.134 --> 12:26.773 about essentially, you know, you can't— you got 12:27.273 --> 12:29.947 to stop thinking about them. You can't really— you can try to pretend to stop 12:30.447 --> 12:32.576 thinking about them, but, you know, they'll— they somehow know not to call till you've 12:32.657 --> 12:36.055 actually forgotten. And he's like, well, there's the Rob, you know? Yeah. Which is a 12:36.103 --> 12:38.909 Hamlet quote. Hamlet comes up later. There's all kinds of little bits that get dropped 12:39.409 --> 12:42.131 here and then, and then, you know, they show up later. But yeah, but we're 12:42.631 --> 12:46.523 at the scene and it's basically just an intro to Mike and, and Rob. 12:46.603 --> 12:50.178 And so we get that information. And, uh, yeah, so we 12:50.290 --> 12:54.088 come back now, uh, after this conversation, and Mike's like apologizing to Rob. 12:54.152 --> 12:56.621 I'm sorry, I was talking about this, but you're the only one I can talk 12:57.121 --> 12:59.970 about. So he's not being— he's not like leaning on him so hard that he's 12:59.987 --> 13:04.138 not appreciative of it. Yeah. So Mike comes home to his apartment and 13:04.234 --> 13:07.584 he hits his message machine, right? And, uh, it's one of these 13:07.616 --> 13:11.110 things in my head where, uh, I was thinking about this movie, we were talking 13:11.142 --> 13:14.011 about how much we liked it, and in my head I'm like, oh, it's not 13:14.511 --> 13:17.329 even dated. And then the other guy in my head jumps in, is like like 13:17.829 --> 13:21.085 the 5th most speaking lines are an answering machine. So far. 13:21.859 --> 13:24.970 So, so Mike comes home and he plays his messages, 13:25.067 --> 13:28.545 you know, and it's like various friends, like one who's T, played by Vince 13:29.045 --> 13:31.315 Vaughn, who's like, hey, you coming out? Hey, you gotta stop thinking about that girl. 13:31.460 --> 13:33.779 Let's go out tonight. And he names like 6 places. If we're not here, 13:33.795 --> 13:35.744 we'll be here. If we're not there, we'll be there. There's this party here. 13:35.857 --> 13:39.157 It's like, yeah, dude's got plans. And he's got a friend from back home who's 13:39.657 --> 13:42.539 like, hey man, how you doing? Whatever. And then his grandmother and all this stuff. 13:42.716 --> 13:45.418 And then when he gets off it, then we kind of dip into the fantasy 13:45.918 --> 13:49.293 realm for a minute where the message machine is like It's okay. 13:49.664 --> 13:53.381 There's other fish in the sea. You don't— she doesn't deserve you. You have 13:53.881 --> 13:57.403 to put things in perspective. And it never really comes back. He goes to pick 13:57.468 --> 14:01.487 the phone up and the message machine goes, are you calling her? 14:01.907 --> 14:05.119 He's like, can you— I'm trying to make a phone call. Can you leave me 14:05.619 --> 14:07.330 alone? Would you stop? Would you stop, please? I'm trying to make a phone call. 14:07.701 --> 14:10.621 Yeah. And he does not try to call. I like who he chooses to call 14:11.121 --> 14:13.768 back here. He calls Trent. So of all the messages on his machine, the guy 14:13.832 --> 14:16.863 trying to get him out of his apartment and out to you know, meet some 14:17.363 --> 14:19.257 beautiful babies and like all this stuff, which we get— we get a lot more 14:19.289 --> 14:22.507 of Trent's sort of vernacular very soon. But he basically says, 14:22.927 --> 14:25.418 we got to get you out of that stuffy apartment, you know, let's, let's go 14:25.434 --> 14:27.247 out tonight. Mike's like, I don't want to. I mean, he's doing the standard stuff. 14:27.312 --> 14:29.530 I think we've all been there. So as you get in your 20s, you just 14:30.030 --> 14:32.396 don't feel like going out. Part of you probably even feels like you should, 14:32.412 --> 14:35.233 or you maybe want to, but then it's like, that's a fucking hassle. Like, 14:35.250 --> 14:38.650 I relate to this so much now. Oh, totally. But basically, you know, 14:39.040 --> 14:41.627 Trent is such a good friend. There's so many things wrong with Trent in this 14:42.127 --> 14:44.148 movie. This is Vince Vaughn's character, Trent. We hear him before we see him. 14:44.549 --> 14:47.661 There are so many things about his character that are like not good. But two 14:48.161 --> 14:50.373 things. One, there are also so many things about his character. He is one of 14:50.405 --> 14:53.260 the best friends you could ever have as a guy. One thing. 14:53.357 --> 14:56.870 Yep. And legitimately altruistically so, it seems. 14:57.528 --> 15:00.913 And then also the times where he is like problematic and it's not good, 15:00.977 --> 15:04.619 whatever. Like the movie clearly plays it as, as the, as the anti-example. 15:04.924 --> 15:08.758 He's the anti-pattern. He's right. It shows him to be doofusy with some 15:09.258 --> 15:12.193 of his like more kind of negative viewpoints. So, so that in that sense, 15:12.225 --> 15:15.206 I like Trent, but basically Trent is like, dude, this is, 15:15.465 --> 15:18.041 this is obviously worse than I thought it was. We gotta get outta town. 15:18.445 --> 15:21.593 Yeah. We're going to Vegas. And he's like, what do you mean Vegas? I'm not 15:22.093 --> 15:24.047 going to Vegas. When are we going to Vegas? We're going to tonight. I'm gonna 15:24.547 --> 15:26.527 pick you up. You get a suit. I'm gonna pick you up. We're going to 15:27.027 --> 15:28.935 Vegas. Yeah. And he's like, I'm not going to no Vegas tonight. He's like, 15:28.951 --> 15:31.506 I'm not going. And of course, smash cut to what are you talking about? 15:31.571 --> 15:34.934 Vegas in the car. And Mike, he's keeps walking back 15:35.434 --> 15:38.378 and forth between his living room and his kitchen. So he'll like turn the light 15:38.878 --> 15:41.059 on in the living room, turn it off, go in the kitchen, right? Open the 15:41.559 --> 15:43.740 fridge, the fridge light comes on. He's kind of like pacing back and forth. 15:44.112 --> 15:47.602 And it's such a great scene of Trent like kind of inventing the idea in 15:48.102 --> 15:51.385 his head, fully convincing himself of it, and then starting to convince Mike of it. 15:51.660 --> 15:54.570 And he's like, get a suit, bring something nice to wear, 15:54.699 --> 15:57.129 you know? Mike's like, no, I gotta get up. He's like, I got callback at 15:57.629 --> 16:01.418 9 and I'm going to this thing, you know? So, uh, so yeah, the plan 16:01.467 --> 16:04.519 is wear a suit, we're going to Vegas, we're gonna come pick you 16:05.019 --> 16:06.011 up. So they're in the car, smash cuts of the car, and they're both hyped. 16:06.061 --> 16:09.837 Mike's counting his money, he's He's like, I took out $300, 16:09.869 --> 16:12.140 but that's all I'm gonna bet with is $100. That's like all I can afford 16:12.640 --> 16:14.362 to bet with. But I got— but if I get a lot of chips, 16:14.378 --> 16:16.922 you know, the pit boss will come and like comp you shit. This is his 16:16.954 --> 16:19.517 idea, which is like, no man, you gotta play those chips. If you play it, 16:19.598 --> 16:22.486 they'll comp you. You gotta play though. You can't just have it. It is such 16:22.744 --> 16:26.358 an early 20s guy who hasn't really been to Vegas understanding 16:26.390 --> 16:29.682 of Vegas. Exactly. And maybe that's how Atlantic City worked. Maybe he has more experience 16:30.182 --> 16:32.280 in Atlantic City from being back east. I don't know. I've never been to Atlantic 16:32.780 --> 16:35.878 City, but I've been to Vegas. I've blown money in Vegas. Like, I never got 16:35.911 --> 16:38.254 comped shit. They're not eager to comp you anything. Um, so, but he— so he 16:38.754 --> 16:42.072 says, you know, Yeah, we can do this. And I love 16:42.572 --> 16:44.129 this too because there's like a little bit of argument that happened in the car 16:44.562 --> 16:47.599 and Mike's like, no, no, I'm going back. Take me back because Trent's not wearing 16:47.615 --> 16:50.299 a suit. He's got to put his suit on while Mike holds the wheel. 16:50.911 --> 16:54.678 And there's all this energy, you know, Vegas, baby, Vegas. Yes. Which like, how many 16:54.710 --> 16:56.852 times have you gone to Vegas with friends? And that's all you do for the 16:57.352 --> 16:59.492 first 20 minutes. Like, yeah, you know what I mean? You can't get over how 16:59.702 --> 17:03.179 excited you are. But it is from LA, a 3+ hour drive 17:03.679 --> 17:06.381 out there. Yep. So it does a great job showing. Now it's late at night 17:06.881 --> 17:09.204 because it was already probably 8, 9 at night. It was after dark right now. 17:09.256 --> 17:10.303 They're in the winter. And so, but like, but it was after dark. Yeah. 17:10.355 --> 17:13.523 So. And they're 17:13.555 --> 17:16.556 just kind of like yawning in the car like, ah, Vegas, 17:16.668 --> 17:20.103 Vegas. But then you see the lights of the city 17:20.199 --> 17:23.922 as you, as you approach it, and then they start getting pumped again. So really 17:24.422 --> 17:28.288 nice scene of them driving in T's car, which uncharacteristically cool convertible 17:28.320 --> 17:32.011 for how like financially successful his character would be in real life. But, 17:32.155 --> 17:34.980 uh, great scene of them driving down the Strip a little bit, just the key 17:35.480 --> 17:38.398 toss to the valve. Yeah, yeah. And they decide the place they're going to is 17:38.414 --> 17:41.843 like like the Stardust or whatever, one of like the old chunk 17:42.343 --> 17:45.475 of Vegas, which is now a pile of rubble, which will soon be the Sphere 17:45.604 --> 17:49.932 too. Oh, interesting. And, uh, I don't know, it'll be something, but they've demolished 17:50.432 --> 17:52.283 all these things. It's like old Fremont Street, right? Is that kind of the area? 17:52.348 --> 17:56.115 Or like— no, it's not even Fremont Street. Okay, so it's like the 17:56.148 --> 17:59.704 Riviera, the Stardust, and all these things were kind of like at the end of 18:00.204 --> 18:03.231 the strip, past where like the Wynn is now. Yeah, yeah. And, uh, and then 18:03.263 --> 18:07.165 like the MGM Grand, that stuff started getting bigger. So during this time, 18:07.264 --> 18:10.701 the big ones were kind of like MGM. Yeah. And Bellagio and all those 18:10.733 --> 18:13.639 Caesars and stuff. And then further down were the old school, like, 18:13.719 --> 18:17.252 Sinatra era thing, which is not cool to anybody but these guys at this time, 18:17.380 --> 18:20.447 right? So yeah, they're in this place and they say, we're gonna kick it old 18:20.947 --> 18:24.911 school. And I think this was before the Sands was destroyed because that was in 18:25.024 --> 18:28.460 '97, 'cause in Con Air, which was '97, they crash into the Sands. Yeah, 18:28.556 --> 18:31.944 and the Sands was right there with those, the Riviera, the Sands, the Stardust, 18:31.993 --> 18:34.514 yep. That's very cool. And then yeah, actually on the car real quick, 'cause you 18:35.014 --> 18:38.351 mentioned it, just wanted to call out, that is a 1964 Mercury Comet Caliente. 18:39.137 --> 18:43.128 Convertible, and it is the— was at the time the personal-owned vehicle 18:43.160 --> 18:46.142 of one Mr. Jon Favreau. It was his own car, and he's like, let's use 18:46.642 --> 18:50.085 this car. And Doug Liman's like, yeah, let's use that car. Perfect car 18:50.198 --> 18:53.356 for T's character. Oh, absolutely. And I would not put it past him to like— 18:54.061 --> 18:57.331 he's putting everything into his image. He might live, you know, 18:57.588 --> 19:01.371 in, in an apartment that's like so far away from the action with 8 19:01.419 --> 19:04.545 roommates and all this stuff in a closet so that he can dress cool and 19:05.045 --> 19:07.959 look cool. He would crash on Sue's couch. Oh yeah, he could have that car 19:08.167 --> 19:11.618 and a nice like sharkskin suit, you know what I mean? But the 19:11.634 --> 19:14.332 other thing you meant, because we were talking about kind of the reality of some 19:14.832 --> 19:17.322 of these bits, the Hollywood Hills coffee shop, which is that we opened on and 19:17.822 --> 19:21.133 we'll be back to later, literally where Jon Favreau wrote the majority of the script 19:21.198 --> 19:23.865 was at that coffee shop with friends and hanging out. Like, that's a lot of 19:24.365 --> 19:28.505 actors and writers and young directors all hung out there in the— I think it's 19:28.554 --> 19:31.115 either in Hollywood, actually in Hollywood, or it's nearby in Los Feliz. I'm not sure, 19:31.147 --> 19:34.110 but it's like that part of town. And he hung out there, and that's where 19:34.610 --> 19:36.348 he wrote a lot of the script for Swingers, was at the Hollywood Hills. 19:36.396 --> 19:39.363 It's now currently called the 101 Cafe. But, but yeah, 19:39.380 --> 19:42.598 so all right, so they get to Vegas and they walk in, and you're right, 19:42.614 --> 19:44.636 it's like the kind of older part of Vegas. And Mike's a little like, 19:44.652 --> 19:46.981 I thought we're supposed to be done. And they think like, yeah, we go to 19:46.997 --> 19:50.473 the shitty place and then that makes us look that much better. So when we 19:50.602 --> 19:54.125 walk in, they're gonna be fawning over us. At least Trent thinks that. Yeah, 19:54.158 --> 19:57.430 Mike is like, yeah, this is terrible. 19:58.185 --> 20:01.302 But they meet a waitress real quick named Christy. 20:02.362 --> 20:05.334 Trent stops her from walking through. Christy, I can't remember the actress's name, but she 20:05.834 --> 20:08.446 also played the character Siobhan in Dazed and Confused, one of the popular girls. 20:08.963 --> 20:12.741 Um, very big fan of this actress at this time in my life. Very pretty. 20:12.999 --> 20:16.342 And, uh, he stops, he stops, or Trent does, and turns and goes, baby, 20:16.390 --> 20:18.918 I want you to, I want you to remember this face. This is the guy 20:19.534 --> 20:22.596 behind the guy behind the guy. Like, 20:22.612 --> 20:25.869 for whatever reason, that is the funniest shit in the world to me. I love 20:26.096 --> 20:29.532 it. Yeah. And, and Trent's trying 20:30.032 --> 20:32.986 to explain to him, he's like, he's like, no, no, they, they like that. 20:33.068 --> 20:36.509 Like, she's, she's into you, whatever. Uh, so, so they're looking for somewhere 20:37.009 --> 20:40.248 to gamble. Yes. Right. So Mike has his $300, of which he can only 20:40.313 --> 20:43.553 gamble $100. But he wants to change in all $300. Yeah. He's like, 20:43.586 --> 20:46.036 okay, I got to buy the chips so that they're impressed by this. It's like 20:46.536 --> 20:49.672 he's imagining they'll all be $1 chips and he'll have 300 of them piled up 20:50.172 --> 20:53.192 in front of him. So he walks up to the blackjack table 20:53.835 --> 20:57.310 and, and it's this great scene where he's like, I'm changing $300 and he's holding 20:57.390 --> 21:00.358 his money out and he keeps counting it and recounting it. The dealer's like, 21:00.375 --> 21:02.649 sir, I can count that for you. He's like, oh, I don't want to bet 21:03.149 --> 21:04.859 it. You know, I don't want to put it on the table. He's like, 21:04.875 --> 21:06.961 I don't want to bet it all. He's like, you can't hand me money, 21:06.978 --> 21:10.449 sir. So he clearly looks like an asshole that he doesn't know what he's doing. 21:10.546 --> 21:14.034 He's never been there before. Right. And then a great scene where the dealer counts 21:14.534 --> 21:17.787 out this big, you know, $15, $20 bills, goes to the chip thing, 21:18.928 --> 21:22.301 and then 3 tiny pathetic $100 21:22.801 --> 21:26.078 chips. Just the visual of that is so funny. One of the funniest things in 21:26.578 --> 21:28.853 this movie. And he said, Mike says, do you have anything smaller? And the guy 21:29.353 --> 21:31.839 says, as a matter of fact, I do, but this happens to be a $100 21:32.065 --> 21:35.446 minimum bet table. Perhaps you'd feel more comfortable at one of our lower stakes tables. 21:35.570 --> 21:38.920 And where he's where they're at, right, is like this kind of older silver fox 21:39.420 --> 21:41.737 kind of guy with like a nice suit and then 2 women who are probably 21:42.237 --> 21:44.490 hookers, to be totally honest. Straight outta like a Robert Palmer video. Yeah, 21:44.554 --> 21:48.305 exactly. But then the one they point to, it's like a fat biker dude, 21:48.418 --> 21:50.623 like a, you know— Old lady, big hair. 21:51.074 --> 21:54.600 Like an 80-year-old old woman and then like a 55-year-old cocktail 21:54.616 --> 21:57.108 waitress. And like, you know, it's like not the same kind of, you know, 21:57.124 --> 22:00.583 cool crowd. But they're like, "No, no, no, we'll do this." And then Christy, 22:00.843 --> 22:03.630 the waitress walks back up and, hey, you know, can I get you— can I 22:04.130 --> 22:07.041 get you a drink? And Mike tries to be super smooth ordering a scotch. 22:07.106 --> 22:10.355 He's like, yeah, like a scotch on the rocks, please. A scotch 22:10.404 --> 22:13.584 will do, as long as it's not a blend, of course. Uh, anything single malt. 22:13.632 --> 22:16.682 Uh, Glenlivet, Glenfiddich perhaps, Glen Gown, any Glen. 22:16.778 --> 22:20.312 And he's looking around for like approval of what he's saying 22:20.489 --> 22:25.016 as he's saying this. And it's so— this part is just so relatable 22:25.097 --> 22:28.574 of a guy who's like out of place. It's like, I know some of 22:29.074 --> 22:31.729 the lingo, I'm gonna try to look cool. Oh, it's not a problem, they're gonna 22:32.229 --> 22:35.445 know that I'm one of them once I say these words. And then it's not 22:35.477 --> 22:38.190 working, but you're fucking in the middle of it. So you got to keep going. 22:38.286 --> 22:41.208 The only way through, only way out is through at that point. And he is 22:41.337 --> 22:44.548 also a walking, like, Dunning-Kruger effect, right? He knows just enough to get 22:45.048 --> 22:47.598 himself in trouble and not enough to look like he actually, you know, knows what's 22:48.098 --> 22:51.531 going on. But basically he goes ahead and puts down the bet after she 22:52.031 --> 22:55.481 goes off to get the scotch. And he puts down the 22:55.981 --> 22:58.579 one chip because he's got to bet the $100, right? And he gets dealt 11. 22:58.948 --> 23:02.400 11, and Trent is immediately like, double down, double down, it's 11, you double down. 23:02.578 --> 23:05.706 And now look, blackjack is my game of choice when I'm in a casino, 23:05.738 --> 23:08.957 which is not often. And yes, I would always double down on 11. Yeah, 23:09.054 --> 23:12.172 partly because I'm never betting $100 a hand, right? Because it's not what I'm— that's 23:12.672 --> 23:15.916 not my stakes level, you know. But you know, Mike's like, I can't double down, 23:15.981 --> 23:19.098 it's blood money, dude, I can't do it. Like, this is my rent, like, 23:19.114 --> 23:21.480 I can't, you know. And sure enough, you know, you're gonna look like a fool, 23:21.528 --> 23:24.509 you know. Okay, double down. And of course, you know, I think he gets 18, 23:24.623 --> 23:27.127 but then the dealer hits 21. It's just— that's blackjack, you know, it happens. 23:27.225 --> 23:30.678 And it's especially when your hopes are really up and it's 23:31.178 --> 23:33.611 first time and you really need the money, that's when that kind of shit really 23:33.627 --> 23:37.915 happens. Yeah, so he's devastated. And there 23:37.963 --> 23:41.304 goes twice the amount of money that he budgeted for this trip, the whole trip, 23:41.416 --> 23:44.821 and they just got there. So now he's very sadly like sitting there now at 23:45.321 --> 23:48.065 the $5 table with Trent kind of like, come on, man, you know you always 23:48.161 --> 23:51.694 double down. And he's just furious. But he's— I love that he's still playing blackjack. 23:51.791 --> 23:55.388 Yes, yes. So now they're at the table and there's 23:55.888 --> 23:58.601 this old woman at the table we talked about before. And she's, you know, 23:58.617 --> 24:01.975 doing well at everything. And they're playing and they're like, 24:02.055 --> 24:05.044 okay, you have 11, what are you gonna do? She's like, I'll hit, you know, 24:05.060 --> 24:09.270 15. So she hits 11, 15, and 17 24:09.366 --> 24:12.821 against a dealer 5. It's just a terrible blackjack. 24:13.078 --> 24:16.854 So of course the casino's like, oh, we need this motherfucker to 24:17.354 --> 24:20.164 stay. Keep playing. Ma'am, do you want some breakfast? This is one of those lines 24:20.212 --> 24:22.655 that she says. They're like, you know, ma'am, we'll get you breakfast. She's like, 24:22.719 --> 24:25.526 I don't know if I should. But then again, it sounds like a good idea. 24:25.766 --> 24:28.636 And he says, we'll fix you up. And she goes, you'll fix me up? 24:28.716 --> 24:32.146 We would say you'll fix me up all the time in college for whatever reason. 24:32.194 --> 24:35.449 Shout out PJ. He's a big person who says you'll fix me up. 24:35.545 --> 24:38.142 I hope he still does. Do you know who that woman is, by the way? 24:38.350 --> 24:42.053 That one was Favreau's grandma. Yes, Jon Favreau, 24:42.150 --> 24:45.724 Favreau's grandmother. The guy who was winning at the $100 24:45.949 --> 24:49.059 table was Vince Vaughn's dad. Oh, I didn't know that one. Damn, that's very cool. 24:49.315 --> 24:52.422 Nice. Hey, for $200 grand, you got to get whoever you can get, you know, 24:52.438 --> 24:56.044 to be in the movie, right? Like, oh man. So they're cashing out 24:56.544 --> 25:00.005 and it turns out, you know, Favreau has $120. Vince Vaughn's like, hey, you won 25:00.505 --> 25:03.505 $20. And it's great, baby. You're up $20. He's like, he's furious, 25:03.521 --> 25:07.144 right? Um, but Christy tracks him down. I've walked around 25:07.273 --> 25:10.104 with that scotch on my tray for an hour, you know, whatever. And then she 25:10.604 --> 25:12.449 says, you know, well, you should leave. You know, he's like, I didn't even want— 25:12.949 --> 25:14.569 I just wanted to order it. He's like, well, can I get you something now? 25:14.718 --> 25:17.516 You shouldn't leave here without getting something for free. Free, which I will agree with 25:18.016 --> 25:20.906 Trent. That sounds like a come on. Like, I'm not— you look, she's a waitress, 25:20.955 --> 25:23.493 she's trying to earn her tips and everything. But like, also, like, that's a way 25:23.622 --> 25:27.160 to word things that does sound a little loaded to me. Like, I don't know 25:27.660 --> 25:31.317 if that's like— anyway, Trent decided she's playing. She's playing, right? I mean, 25:31.413 --> 25:34.717 he is, he is fun and she is like being fun with him, 25:34.733 --> 25:37.957 right? Stuff. Yeah. So for sure. So this— Trent's not wrong. It's like, you know, 25:37.990 --> 25:40.047 so you— but he does the whole thing where it's like, I'll time you and 25:40.063 --> 25:42.753 all this stuff. And Mike again is like, you're an asshole. We should go. 25:42.834 --> 25:46.531 She's— what, what, uh, Trent orders is 25:46.868 --> 25:50.643 a single malted Glengarry. I didn't 25:51.143 --> 25:54.529 catch that. Glengarry. Oh shit. Oh my God. Yeah, 25:55.702 --> 25:59.187 he says he'll give her a 50-cent piece 25:59.556 --> 26:03.251 if she tells the bartender to go light on the water. Shiny 50-cent piece is 26:03.751 --> 26:06.752 yours. Yeah, I'm gonna time you though. He's counting out as she walks away, 26:07.105 --> 26:10.590 which is good banter. I mean, sometimes you get called on that, it doesn't work, 26:10.655 --> 26:13.943 but it was working. He— his instincts were correct. And, 26:13.960 --> 26:16.950 uh, yeah, I mean, he read that this person correctly. Like, first of all, 26:16.966 --> 26:19.956 she is used to working in a casino full of just old people, so they 26:20.021 --> 26:23.878 are age-appropriate, attractive, handsome men who have come into the casino. That's not crazy 26:23.894 --> 26:27.259 that she would be interested in like at least a little banter. So Trent reads 26:27.292 --> 26:29.804 people well. I mean, that does seem to be regardless of his sort of other 26:30.304 --> 26:32.736 viewpoints that I don't agree with. Like, the dude reads people well, and he's right 26:32.752 --> 26:35.911 here. But they say we're gonna meet at the Bamboo Lounge at like 6 AM 26:36.411 --> 26:38.893 or whatever, right? She's off work at 6 AM. He said, why don't you and 26:39.393 --> 26:42.885 a friend meet us at the Bamboo Lounge at 6:01? That's right. So at 6:20-something 26:43.062 --> 26:46.755 instead, Mike and Trent are at another restaurant getting 26:46.836 --> 26:50.594 breakfast. And I love this exchange. Mike goes 26:50.626 --> 26:53.838 to order breakfast from the waitress and he says, 'cause I 26:54.338 --> 26:56.600 think this is a decent line, I gotta be honest with you. It says here 26:56.632 --> 26:59.217 breakfast anytime. She goes, that's right. He goes, okay, I'll have the pancakes and the 26:59.717 --> 27:02.911 Age of Enlightenment, please. That's a good line. I'm sorry, that is a legit 27:03.411 --> 27:06.364 line. She doesn't react to it. So he takes it as like, oh fuck, 27:06.380 --> 27:08.616 I went over her head. Like he's being kind of shitty about it. Like, 27:08.713 --> 27:12.182 I should have said Renaissance, like, aging, like, you know, French philosophical phrase, like, 27:12.247 --> 27:14.893 you would understand this. But he— it's just— I think it's a good line. 27:15.006 --> 27:18.555 Oh, it's a good— it's a very funny joke. And I, I love that throughout 27:19.055 --> 27:22.472 this movie, Mike, the aspiring— well, not as— I mean, he's, he's hosting an 27:22.650 --> 27:25.616 open mic and stuff, he's doing stand-up comedy, but he's probably not— he's not making 27:25.648 --> 27:29.009 a living from it. Um, has very much 27:29.349 --> 27:32.663 bombs in many situations. And then here, yeah, 27:32.679 --> 27:35.919 where he kind of has this, like, my jokes don't suck, you suck. 27:35.999 --> 27:39.445 If I wasn't always talking to a bunch of idiots, like, I love that. 27:39.493 --> 27:42.762 I needed to dumb down my material. In this case, the joke actually was funny, 27:42.874 --> 27:46.223 but it's important that the joke was funny and that she doesn't like 27:46.723 --> 27:49.428 it. And then he says that for what happens next, right? Which is, you know, 27:49.444 --> 27:51.752 he then says, hey, we're, you know, we're kind of in a hurry, would you 27:52.252 --> 27:54.380 mind? And she says, I think this is a hold on, she goes, hold on, 27:54.412 --> 27:57.777 Voltaire. Which I love that Trent even 27:58.277 --> 28:01.319 like recognizes, like Trent looks at Mike like, hey, you know Good job. 28:01.367 --> 28:04.668 Like, she got it. She didn't like it, but she got it. Yeah, 28:04.925 --> 28:08.804 yeah. Oh my God. So then they actually go to the Bamboo Lounge 28:08.916 --> 28:12.618 and they meet Christy and her friend, uh, Lisa, I believe. Uh, yeah, 28:12.666 --> 28:15.696 the right name. Yeah, who is dressed as Dorothy, uh, from The Wizard of Oz. 28:15.808 --> 28:18.869 And when they first walk into the Bamboo Lounge, it's great. Like, you just hear 28:18.917 --> 28:22.203 the music and you see kind of this crowd of guys from the camera's 28:22.703 --> 28:24.944 point of view as it approaches, and then the guys all look back towards the 28:25.444 --> 28:28.486 camera and all part. Yeah. As— so it's like Mike and Trent are going to 28:28.986 --> 28:32.607 these women who have like like 12 guys surrounding him in crazy outfits. 28:32.803 --> 28:35.810 If you ever want to watch this in slow motion, they really had to pull 28:35.858 --> 28:39.059 some fucking people to stand in there. It's pretty 28:39.076 --> 28:42.179 wild. Um, but yeah, Christy lets them know, or yeah, Christy asks what they do, 28:42.325 --> 28:44.897 or at least does whatever, and, and Mike's telling the truth. He's like, well, 28:44.913 --> 28:47.565 you know, I'm a stand-up, I do this, I'm a comic. Oh, well, who's your 28:48.065 --> 28:50.751 representation? Oh, I don't have booking out here. Well, who's your representation back East? 28:50.816 --> 28:53.500 And he's just like, oh my God, like the woman's asking like legit questions he 28:54.000 --> 28:57.044 doesn't have answers to because he's trying to bullshit a little. Yeah, And then Trent, 28:57.141 --> 29:00.422 they asked about that. He turns to Trent and he's like, she, she knows 29:00.454 --> 29:04.253 about that. Shit, dude, what am I gonna do here? So then Trent 29:04.753 --> 29:06.724 shows him how to do it, which is if you're not going to be totally 29:06.756 --> 29:09.322 honest, which Trent would never be, but Mike could get away with it. But if 29:09.822 --> 29:12.405 you want to be— if you want to sound more impressive, just go whole hog. 29:12.712 --> 29:15.014 And they go, Trent, what do you do? He goes, I'm a producer. Because nobody 29:15.514 --> 29:18.460 asks questions about that. They just go, oh wow, that's pretty fucking cool. But Mike's 29:18.960 --> 29:22.084 like trying— it's just, oh my God. But, um, but yeah, they can't drink 29:22.584 --> 29:24.930 there, Christy. It's because I think it's at the casino, right? So she's not supposed 29:25.430 --> 29:27.930 to drink there off, uh, off her hours um, so she's like, hey, you want 29:28.430 --> 29:32.054 to, uh, want to go back to my place? And huge music drop here. 29:33.065 --> 29:36.932 Ah, great song, but this makes me love this song so much more. We get 29:37.432 --> 29:40.943 Magic Man by Heart, just kicks right in. And then they're back at, 29:41.168 --> 29:44.778 uh, at Christy's, uh, Airstream that she lives in, and they're 29:44.794 --> 29:47.602 hanging out. And the four of them are all sitting together. 29:47.763 --> 29:50.699 Mikey with Lisa, his kind of arm around her, and then Christy with Trent. 29:50.972 --> 29:54.861 Christy's clearly really into Trent. Lisa and Mikey are like way more touchy 29:55.039 --> 29:58.561 than you would expect based on like Mikey's game that he's been— his arm 29:58.609 --> 30:01.518 is around her and she's like, she's like holding his hand. It's like really kind 30:02.018 --> 30:04.650 of quite cute. Yeah, and there's definitely like interest, you know, she wasn't interested. 30:04.730 --> 30:07.485 She wouldn't be sitting that close to him. Like, right, there's that. Real quick, 30:07.630 --> 30:10.594 have you ever watched the TV show? I think it's on like Peacock or NBC 30:11.094 --> 30:13.140 or whatever, but called Poker Face with Natasha Lyonne. Have you seen that one? 30:13.205 --> 30:16.239 Mm-hmm. Really funny show, like really good. It's sort of a mystery crime. 30:16.288 --> 30:19.144 She's like a female Columbo who can read everybody. That's the poker face. She can 30:19.192 --> 30:22.852 tell people are lying. Okay. But the first season opens with her as a Vegas 30:23.352 --> 30:26.296 cocktail waitress and, or maybe not, maybe it's Vegas, maybe it's Reno. 30:26.752 --> 30:29.253 It's a, but she's a casino cocktail waitress and she lives in an Airstream outside 30:29.753 --> 30:31.964 of town. And for whatever reason, when that happened, watching that show, I went, 30:32.077 --> 30:34.579 holy shit, that's just like the girl from Swingers. And like, there's a, for me, 30:34.595 --> 30:38.356 there's a perfect connection now between Natasha Lyonne's show 30:39.098 --> 30:42.681 and this one. But yeah. Nice. But anyway, so they're telling this story. Trent is 30:42.714 --> 30:46.207 telling the story about an audition and, 30:46.288 --> 30:48.568 you know, all this stuff. And it's a pretty good story about like— One of 30:49.068 --> 30:52.945 the best like character telling a story in a movie that I've seen— 30:52.961 --> 30:56.543 I mean, really, really good. At least not— that wasn't Quentin Tarantino, who's like, 30:56.672 --> 30:59.753 only skill is telling stories like this in movies. Exactly. But yeah, like, 30:59.834 --> 31:02.964 it's really funny. And it turns out that, you know, he auditioned for a role 31:02.980 --> 31:06.498 that was like 12 or 11 years old or something. And, you know, 31:06.998 --> 31:09.806 Mike then could say, what'd you say, double down, right? Like, but, but it's basically 31:09.822 --> 31:13.026 like, haha. And it's just disarming. He's just being disarming or whatever. And everyone was 31:13.058 --> 31:16.818 crying. He was acting so well that everyone was crying. And at one point 31:17.318 --> 31:19.903 he says, even the camera guy who was filming was crying. I don't know so 31:20.403 --> 31:21.590 much about what I was doing, even though that had a lot to do with 31:22.090 --> 31:26.186 it. I think he just had his own thing going That whole part is 31:26.363 --> 31:29.380 so funny. Really one of the best things. And then he says like he put 31:29.880 --> 31:32.718 his head down and everybody was silent for 5 minutes. Swear to God, 5 minutes. 31:32.783 --> 31:36.586 I'm like, give me a break, right? And then I looked up, whole room 31:36.731 --> 31:39.925 erupts in applause. It is just like, you know, very funny thing. But that's 31:40.425 --> 31:43.231 when Christy is like, she's bought in, she's sold. So she offers him the tour, 31:43.552 --> 31:46.746 which of course of an Airstream, yeah, you know, a limited thing. It's one other 31:47.246 --> 31:49.699 little space, you know, uh, a little collapsible accordion door. 31:51.353 --> 31:54.083 So they head into the bedroom in the back and immediately start making out. 31:54.148 --> 31:57.391 She's— her bed is covered in stuffed animals to like a hilarious 31:57.761 --> 32:00.748 extent. They have to like knock them all onto the floor or whatever. And then 32:00.812 --> 32:04.329 Mike and Lisa are chatting a little bit, and Trent goes to check on Mike. 32:04.409 --> 32:08.022 He kind of like peeks down, and the way that they've staged Lisa talking to 32:08.522 --> 32:10.736 Mike is their head— you know, he can only see the back. Lisa, it does 32:10.752 --> 32:13.563 look like they might be making out. Yeah, could be. And, uh, so he's like, 32:13.579 --> 32:17.160 cool. It goes back to Christy, but really Mike has told Lisa about 32:17.470 --> 32:20.890 about, you know, Michelle won't call, like my ex-girlfriend, like all this stuff, how long 32:21.390 --> 32:23.407 has it been? And she's like trying to convince him it's all okay. But he's 32:23.907 --> 32:25.569 like, whatever. And he's like, oh my God, I really gotta check my messages. 32:26.092 --> 32:29.309 And I love this, so '90s. I got a calling card, so it won't cost 32:29.809 --> 32:32.944 anything. And I remember having a calling card in the '90s, especially like when I 32:33.444 --> 32:36.211 got to college, like pre-cell phone days, you know? 32:36.861 --> 32:38.566 But he's got his calling card. So then he has to go back in the 32:39.066 --> 32:41.327 back and I love his line. He's like, I don't think, they weren't in there 32:41.827 --> 32:45.262 very long. I don't think we've interrupted anything. Christy comes out wearing nothing but Trent's 32:45.343 --> 32:48.504 jacket. Trent comes out wearing nothing but like a sheet wrapped around his waist. 32:48.568 --> 32:51.874 He's got like a towel or something like that. And then he's like, 32:52.083 --> 32:55.790 he's sitting on the couch, uh, like clutching a pillow. 32:55.934 --> 32:59.738 Yeah, just with the most defeated look on his face as the two girls 32:59.882 --> 33:03.076 are kind of catching each other up on what's going on with Mikey as he's 33:03.576 --> 33:06.767 checking his messages. And they're both getting real concerned, and Trent's kind of like, 33:06.927 --> 33:09.335 oh yeah, isn't it crazy? But it's like, oh my God, 33:09.351 --> 33:13.069 this And so, so then we, you know, they, they, Christy puts on some 33:13.569 --> 33:16.369 coffee. Obviously the mood is dead. Uh, and, but you know, and Trent to his, 33:16.644 --> 33:19.962 to his credit is not pissed at Mike about it. They're then on the 33:20.462 --> 33:22.857 side of the highway. We cut to Trent taking a whiz before they head back, 33:22.873 --> 33:26.577 you know, the 200-something miles to Los Angeles. And they're chatting for 33:27.077 --> 33:29.554 a bit and Mike's trying to apologize and Trent's like, dude, it's okay. I wanted 33:29.570 --> 33:31.414 you to have a good time. Like, don't worry. I didn't even like her that 33:31.430 --> 33:34.536 much, man. It was just like, whatever, which is cool. Trent, 33:34.924 --> 33:38.677 very good friend. Like you said, he's, he puts no guilt 33:39.177 --> 33:42.593 on Mikey at all. Um, even though I'm— I, you know, 33:42.674 --> 33:45.485 at this point maybe that's what he needs is like a little push. It's like, 33:45.565 --> 33:49.373 dude, you can't keep doing this every night. But it was Trent who said, 33:50.128 --> 33:53.678 I'm taking you out. So Trent took that risk upon him, you know. So he's 33:54.178 --> 33:56.811 being very, very cool. He really is pumping Mike up a lot. Yeah, it's like, 33:56.875 --> 33:59.124 you're so money, you know, with the thing that we would all say to our 33:59.624 --> 34:02.594 friends, which I say to this day because— no, this is like— some of the 34:03.094 --> 34:05.534 vocab doesn't work, but you're so money and you don't even know. This is an 34:05.550 --> 34:09.277 ongoing theme of like Mike like, "Get over this. Like, you're not 34:09.777 --> 34:13.549 this sad, like, defeated guy." Yeah. The exact vernacular is 34:13.581 --> 34:16.600 not something I use anymore, but literally, "You're so money and you don't even know 34:16.648 --> 34:20.487 it," in a different syntax, is exactly something 34:20.987 --> 34:24.695 I tell my children every single day. Yeah. It's, "You are still not 34:25.195 --> 34:27.312 even aware—" You are costing me so much money and you don't even know it. 34:27.409 --> 34:31.520 No, "You're still not, so not aware of how much you have to offer 34:32.020 --> 34:34.941 the entire world around you." Yeah. "Just keep being you and you're going to do 34:35.441 --> 34:38.158 great things. Just keep trying hard." That's basically the same thing. And that's, and that's, 34:38.174 --> 34:40.985 I tell them that every single day. Uh, you're welcome kids. I hope you're not 34:41.485 --> 34:44.152 listening because daddy swears in this. Um, but yeah, so now they're on the side 34:44.652 --> 34:47.147 of the highway, they're having this chat and you know, it's basically just like, 34:47.292 --> 34:50.206 you know, they're, they're both agreeing that, that, you know, Mike's going to try not 34:50.706 --> 34:52.395 to talk about it. He's basically like, all right, look, I'm going to try. 34:52.524 --> 34:55.352 I'm going to try. And they drive off to back to LA. And I want 34:55.852 --> 34:58.116 to point something out here because, you know, I know you and I've chatted a 34:58.616 --> 35:01.010 little bit. I told you like I started writing screenplays or something I've always wanted 35:01.510 --> 35:03.544 to do. In fact, if you listen back to some very early episodes of this 35:04.044 --> 35:05.882 podcast, I would mention how I've always wanted to be a screenplay or screenwriter, 35:05.899 --> 35:08.768 never finished one. Well, I finished 3 now, and it's a lot of fun, 35:08.832 --> 35:11.815 and I'm gonna keep doing it, and maybe someday something will happen. But one of 35:12.315 --> 35:14.557 the things I've— that it's done for me is made me look at these movies 35:14.750 --> 35:17.460 with a slightly different eye of like trying to break down like, how is this 35:17.960 --> 35:20.042 story like structured, right? Like, it's something that I'm doing a little more of as 35:20.058 --> 35:23.746 I watch any movie. This movie could have easily been the 35:24.246 --> 35:27.595 first 3 episodes of a series because there are 3 incredibly distinct— they're act 35:28.095 --> 35:31.845 breaks, but they're also like episodic. And this whole sequence from Rob and Mike 35:32.345 --> 35:35.998 talking at the Hollywood Hills coffee shop to Trent and Mike driving back after the 35:36.498 --> 35:38.323 trip in Vegas. That is an episode of TV that lasts about half an hour. 35:38.564 --> 35:42.172 Yeah. That's about half an hour of screen. We'll go from here to the fateful 35:42.672 --> 35:45.444 eventual multiple phone calls to Nikki, which we'll get to. Yeah. That's about half an 35:45.944 --> 35:48.924 hour. That is literally like another episode. And then everything comes after that. 35:48.972 --> 35:51.698 And it starts with a Rob and Mike. Exactly. Every time. Every time it starts 35:52.198 --> 35:54.440 with a Rob and Mike. And so, yeah, it's an interesting thing where it's like, 35:54.520 --> 35:57.952 I don't know if Favreau did that deliberately in the sense that he had 35:58.452 --> 36:01.303 thought maybe this would be a pilot it in a series instead of a movie 36:01.415 --> 36:03.884 when he was first writing it, or if that was just the way his brain 36:04.384 --> 36:06.064 structured the story. Like, I don't know, you know, because it works either way. 36:06.288 --> 36:08.597 But it was something that I've never noticed before watching it. But it really is 36:08.709 --> 36:12.204 3 very distinct television episodes, potentially, 36:12.460 --> 36:14.784 you know, with maybe a few cuts to get under the right running time. 36:14.865 --> 36:17.526 But like, pretty much, you know, uh, and this would be the end of the 36:18.026 --> 36:21.437 first, uh, episode, essentially. So we start up and we are at, 36:21.517 --> 36:24.563 uh, Los Feliz Public Golf Course, a little 9-hole par 3. 36:24.659 --> 36:28.106 What are the great kinds of facilities just 36:28.186 --> 36:31.939 in the world? You can go somewhere and golf for like under— I 36:32.439 --> 36:35.659 mean, here under $20. Used to be, you know, you can go for like $5, 36:35.691 --> 36:39.766 $10, or $8. Um, it's so much fun. So yeah, just shitty golf. 36:39.830 --> 36:43.046 You don't have to dress up. Uh, they are in like t-shirts and shorts, 36:43.062 --> 36:46.340 but then they both have regular golf shoes. They're good golf shoes. Yeah, they're nice. 36:46.517 --> 36:49.618 They look good, but they're both Foot Joys. And you know what that represents, 36:49.651 --> 36:53.514 I think, is a classic— when you're in your early 20s, your parents 36:54.014 --> 36:56.473 have no fucking idea what to get you for Christmas. Yeah, yeah. So you might 36:56.521 --> 36:59.497 just end up with some golf shoes even though you don't golf that much. 36:59.595 --> 37:02.226 And it looks like between the two of them, they have maybe 3 or 4 37:02.274 --> 37:05.004 clubs. It looks like you're carrying like a putter for sure. Yeah, it's like a 37:05.504 --> 37:07.958 putter, maybe like some kind of wedge, and then like a high iron for the, 37:07.974 --> 37:10.334 for the initial drive off the tee, you know. And that's about it. Uh, 37:10.543 --> 37:13.642 so, so Rob, one of the things that he does when they're finishing 37:13.738 --> 37:17.014 up the hole and they're having this conversation back and forth, and it's basically Mikey, 37:17.351 --> 37:20.916 you know, says, you notice I haven't— oh, what Rob is kind of— he's given 37:20.964 --> 37:23.918 his problem, which is, I moved out here to be an actor. The best I've 37:23.934 --> 37:27.611 gotten is an offer to be a callback, a callback to be goofy, 37:27.643 --> 37:30.957 like inside the mascot suit at Disneyland. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. 37:31.022 --> 37:33.888 Uh, and he's just like, what the fuck is going on? And then Mike's like, 37:33.904 --> 37:37.466 hey, you notice I haven't mentioned it once today, right? Um, but there's 37:37.966 --> 37:41.233 a scene where Rob is putting, you know, like a 30-foot putt, and it goes 37:41.266 --> 37:44.041 like 10 feet. And as it's towards the end, he's like, get there. 37:44.897 --> 37:47.559 I say get there so fucking much. 37:48.286 --> 37:51.829 I also love there's a, uh, 10 the pin. Yeah, when he's that far away, 37:51.909 --> 37:54.694 he's so terrible. He's like, but he goes, 10 the pin. And so Mike has 37:54.710 --> 37:57.737 to like pull the pin even though the ball is already stopping. Uh, 37:58.091 --> 38:01.088 and Mike's telling Rob Rob's gonna come out with them that night. Oh, that's right. 38:01.136 --> 38:03.085 He's gonna meet up with people. We're gonna meet up for hockey at Sue's. 38:03.343 --> 38:06.982 Right. And then, you know, there's a party at, you know, they get into this. 38:07.047 --> 38:09.669 Right, party in the Hollywood Hills. A party in the Hills, and then maybe like, 38:09.735 --> 38:12.828 it was just, you know, they go to the Dresden, right? We're gonna go to 38:13.328 --> 38:16.750 maybe the Three of Clubs, like all this stuff. And there's a great thing 38:16.831 --> 38:19.626 that's like, Rob, I think says like, "I don't wanna be out too late," or 38:20.126 --> 38:22.939 whatever. And Mike goes, "What, you got a Pluto callback?" "Sure, kick me while I'm 38:23.439 --> 38:26.506 down." It's just super good, like buddies just ribbing each other. Stuff. 38:27.067 --> 38:30.272 Um, so then we cut to Sue's apartment. Sue is the character we haven't met 38:30.772 --> 38:33.108 yet. He's basically Trent's best friend. Sound drop, by the way, 38:33.717 --> 38:36.938 as it cuts to Sue's apartment, you get the organ music 38:36.954 --> 38:39.726 from NHL '93. Yep, with Genesis. Yeah, 38:40.367 --> 38:43.861 I always thought, because of how they talk about it in this, they're talking 38:43.893 --> 38:46.601 about they took the fights away, there's no fights in the old version. 38:47.178 --> 38:50.078 I thought they were playing NHL '94 because of that, because that's the one where 38:50.578 --> 38:53.909 they took the fights away. But in reality they're playing the one where there are 38:54.409 --> 38:57.693 fights in the one that they're playing in this movie. Very confusing. It is if 38:58.193 --> 39:01.926 you're, if you're that, uh, uh, anal about it. Yeah, well, I don't know, 39:01.942 --> 39:05.005 should we talk about if we make something look like an accident or not, 39:05.309 --> 39:08.580 Steve? Um, yeah, so that's an important 39:09.080 --> 39:13.374 distinction though because this is a very, uh, a very pivotal video 39:13.390 --> 39:16.437 game in, in my career. No, I mean, 100%. 39:16.533 --> 39:19.563 Also notice again, this is the— if we go over the last like 6, 39:19.580 --> 39:22.943 7 weeks of this podcast, you got Wayne's World has hockey. Clerks has hockey. 39:23.185 --> 39:25.958 Swingers has hockey. I wrote down all the fucking hockey. Oh my God. So much 39:26.458 --> 39:28.859 hockey. So much hockey in this. Can't wait. We do Gilmore, Strange Brew. We go 39:29.359 --> 39:31.780 back. We've got a hockey history here. Friday the 13th will come at some point. 39:32.039 --> 39:35.854 Yeah, a little different. But, but yeah. So I 39:36.354 --> 39:39.490 love they're talking about Trenton and Sue are playing the game. Oh, Sue, we should 39:39.990 --> 39:43.305 say real quick. So he's, he's sort of a kind of a rockabilly 39:43.498 --> 39:47.050 looking guy. He's got the like the shirt with like the sort of 39:47.099 --> 39:50.433 pauldrons or whatever, you know, the shoulder like appliqué or whatever kind of thing on 39:50.933 --> 39:52.510 it, and his hair is like kind of hangs in his face, and he's got 39:53.010 --> 39:56.294 that look to him. And, uh, you know, the, the selvedge jeans with the cuffs 39:56.794 --> 39:59.451 rolled up. Yeah, you know, he's got that, that vibe going. Um, but he's also 39:59.531 --> 40:02.060 a— he's a bigger potty mouth than the rest of them. Sue swears even more 40:02.108 --> 40:05.233 than the rest of them, and they all, you know, nobody's being careful, but he's 40:05.733 --> 40:09.014 whatever. And they're talking about, uh, Trent Scott. Apparently we get the intent, the idea 40:09.514 --> 40:12.583 maybe that Trent's from Chicago or the Chicago area originally because he 40:12.648 --> 40:16.112 is playing as the Blackhawks, Jeremy Roenick, right? Uh, we know Sue later 40:16.612 --> 40:18.120 we hear grew up out in LA, so it's like, you know, or in Anaheim. 40:18.169 --> 40:21.560 Um, and so he's playing as Kings and Wayne Gretzky and like 40:22.060 --> 40:24.652 all this stuff. And, and, you know, Mike says like, you know, you can't play 40:25.152 --> 40:26.644 with the Kings in this game, they fucking suck. He goes, no, I took them 40:27.144 --> 40:29.882 to the cup. Yeah, well, against the computer with the offsides turned off, you know. 40:29.946 --> 40:33.030 And he's like, they're a finesse team. They're a fucking bitch team. That's like, 40:33.046 --> 40:36.276 to me, the number of times they're a finesse team, they're a fucking bitch team. 40:36.830 --> 40:40.615 Yeah, those are great. Those are so good. Yeah. And they're 40:40.631 --> 40:42.870 back and forth in this, uh, and, 40:43.852 --> 40:47.300 uh, let's see, the phone rings. Yes. And it's 40:47.800 --> 40:50.540 the pink dot guy, which is like the, the grocery delivery that they had in 40:51.040 --> 40:53.265 LA, which they had, you know, years and years. Now we have it kind of 40:53.586 --> 40:56.696 everywhere, basically Postmates or whatever now, but they had it in LA back then. 40:56.793 --> 41:00.144 Yeah. And, uh, and they're kind of fighting, and T is 41:00.240 --> 41:02.645 telling Mike, he's like, hey, you can make their heads bleed in this game. 41:03.126 --> 41:06.060 And he's like, I'm gonna make Wayne Gretzky's head bleed. And they're having this argument 41:06.560 --> 41:10.196 now. So Sue gets up to, to, uh, you know, get some money to pay 41:10.696 --> 41:13.852 the guy or whatever, and then he breaks Wayne Gretzky, and they start fighting each 41:13.948 --> 41:17.267 other. Very classic, like, moment of guys playing video games or 41:17.767 --> 41:21.153 having it leave the video game system and enter the living room. I'm gonna 41:21.653 --> 41:25.504 make Lil Wayne's head bleed for superfan number 99 over here. And so 41:25.520 --> 41:27.710 anyway, so they do that. They could— yeah, they get beer and cigarettes delivered, 41:27.726 --> 41:30.094 which is like— it was a dream of mine when I was this age. 41:30.980 --> 41:33.646 But they're then gonna go out. So they go out to a club, and it's 41:34.146 --> 41:37.133 Rob and Mike walking down an alleyway, and they're walking up, and Rob says like, 41:37.197 --> 41:39.671 there's no sign here, like whatever. So this bar they're going to is called the 41:40.171 --> 41:42.423 Three of Clubs, and they do mention it like later in the movie. I have 41:42.439 --> 41:46.954 been there. So this is a fun story I have. So in 1998 41:47.454 --> 41:50.541 '08, my grad night or my graduation trip, whatever, senior trip after graduation, 41:50.686 --> 41:53.458 a bunch of us got together. I think about 12 guys. We all got together 41:53.958 --> 41:56.502 and went down to, we rented a house in Newport Beach, like on the, 41:56.663 --> 41:59.210 on the beach, like on the sand. It was fantastic. It was a bunch of 41:59.226 --> 42:02.271 musician guys. It was like Nielsen and Eula and like Ted Humphrey and like a 42:02.771 --> 42:05.828 whole bunch of like really fun people. And we had 42:06.328 --> 42:08.408 a chaperone with us. Our friend Andy Drake, who was 4 years older than all 42:08.456 --> 42:11.917 of us, wink wink, nudge nudge, came to chaperone, i.e. buy us 42:12.417 --> 42:16.091 beer and we had this like wonderful time. But my cousin Susan, 42:16.107 --> 42:17.999 who's about 10 years older than me, was living in LA at the time. 42:18.064 --> 42:20.215 And so I said, "Oh, I'm gonna be down there for this week." She goes, 42:20.328 --> 42:22.411 "Let me take you out one night. I'll take you out to some places." Like 42:22.911 --> 42:26.085 whatever. I can't remember now in the back, thinking back, if she knew I 42:26.117 --> 42:29.544 was into this movie or if this was all good luck. Because she took me 42:30.044 --> 42:32.119 to the Three of Clubs and then we had dinner at the Dresden Restaurant. 42:32.828 --> 42:36.353 And it was a wonderful experience. The Three of Clubs was very, not very busy 42:36.530 --> 42:39.075 when we went. She knew the bouncer, she used to date him. That's why I 42:39.575 --> 42:41.718 think it wasn't about the movie. She just happened to have previously dated a bouncer 42:41.734 --> 42:45.418 who still, they'd still chat added. And so she knew he'd, you know, 42:45.434 --> 42:47.672 let her in with whoever kind of thing, if you say, you know, whatever. 42:47.946 --> 42:50.361 So I didn't— I was 18, I didn't have an ID that said I was 42:50.861 --> 42:53.130 21. So, but we went in, she ordered the drinks for us. But like, 42:53.146 --> 42:56.908 the cracked picture of Sinatra above the bar is real. The ceiling 42:56.956 --> 43:00.573 is all pinpricks, so it's like a black, uh, material that 43:01.073 --> 43:03.059 has these pinpricks in it with like lights above it, so it looks like stars 43:03.156 --> 43:06.258 all through the ceiling. Yes, place, dark little corners, whatever. We just hung out there 43:06.758 --> 43:10.037 for a while, and then we went to the Dresden where, uh, what Marty and 43:10.537 --> 43:13.308 Elaine were playing. Uh, I did not hear them do Stay live, but they did 43:13.808 --> 43:16.907 do Disco Inferno while I was there. And we had, we had dinner there, 43:17.101 --> 43:20.747 and my cousin Susan got carded. And when she showed her ID 43:21.247 --> 43:24.042 that she was 28, they didn't card me. And we both— because they assumed we 43:24.542 --> 43:26.920 were on a date. So it's like, if she's 28, she's not gonna be with 43:26.952 --> 43:30.395 somebody who's under 21. Yeah, it was the thinking apparently by the waitress. 43:30.444 --> 43:33.017 So, so yeah, so it was a lot of fun. But yeah, the Three of 43:33.517 --> 43:35.841 Clubs is a great place. I'm assuming it's not— hasn't been there in years, 43:35.889 --> 43:38.518 I have no idea. But it is a neat club. They're not there very long 43:38.632 --> 43:40.430 though, going back to the movie. 2 Dads 2 Decades movie. Uh, Rob and Mike 43:40.930 --> 43:44.495 show up. Mike's friend Charles shows up, played by Alex Désert, who's great as well. 43:44.785 --> 43:47.810 Loved him in PCU. We'll get to that at some point. Um, and, uh, 43:47.972 --> 43:50.320 I believe he also is a singer for the band Hepcat, I believe. Yep. 43:50.401 --> 43:53.703 Yeah, for the ska heads out there. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And, 43:53.800 --> 43:56.212 um, but I love— because this is one of many times we get from Charles, 43:56.712 --> 43:59.827 uh, when they say like, hey, you know, we're gonna go to this, uh, 44:00.020 --> 44:02.295 bar up, or they go to this party up in the hills, use some modeling 44:02.795 --> 44:05.006 agents, you want to come with me? He goes, yeah, yeah, sure, this place is 44:05.119 --> 44:08.223 dead anyway. I mean, it's I know, I love Charles, 44:09.207 --> 44:12.512 and he's— he doesn't get a lot of lines, but he is a very important 44:13.012 --> 44:16.382 character. Yeah. Um, in this— yeah, and there's 44:16.463 --> 44:19.351 a kind of a scene of them. So the plan is we're going out, 44:19.367 --> 44:22.271 and they say earlier, they're like, okay, the party's at 8, everyone's getting there at 44:22.368 --> 44:25.179 10, right? So Mike's like, oh, so when are we getting there, 11? They're like, 44:25.195 --> 44:28.430 no, midnight, right? So this is all the stuff they're doing before the 8 o'clock 44:28.930 --> 44:32.780 party. Yep. And they're at the diner again. Yep. And they're kind of talking about 44:32.878 --> 44:36.037 some of their favorite classic movie scenes while it's doing a version 44:36.537 --> 44:40.446 of like the Goodfellas It's a scene— no, it's more like the Reservoir Dogs diner 44:40.946 --> 44:44.047 because they're turning around. Dogs diner. Yeah, they're turning around showing everybody's faces, which is 44:44.095 --> 44:47.385 like the Madonna big dicks conversation from Reservoir Dogs. 44:48.061 --> 44:50.701 And they're all talking about how dope Goodfellas is, and they're talking about the shot, 44:50.782 --> 44:54.597 the single shot follow shot. That's right, Copacabana through the 44:54.646 --> 44:57.080 kitchen and into the thing. And it is money, and they're all talking about how 44:57.580 --> 44:59.969 great Scorsese is, but Sue is the one who's like, yeah, but Tarantino killed it 45:00.469 --> 45:03.842 in Reservoir Dogs with the slow-mo walk. Yeah. And they're like, ah, fuck Tarantino, 45:03.858 --> 45:07.147 like kind thing, which is funny because I'm pretty sure Favreau and Tarantino knew each 45:07.647 --> 45:10.914 other at this point in, in Hollywood history. Yeah. So I think he was again 45:11.414 --> 45:14.425 friends ribbing friends in a lot of ways. But they end up copying, you know, 45:14.521 --> 45:18.288 the sort of Reservoir Dogs slow walk thing. Yeah. To, to Tarantino's 45:18.788 --> 45:21.831 credit though, it looks much smoother in Reservoir Dogs. Whatever Doug Liman's doing to make 45:22.331 --> 45:25.021 it slow down, right? Yeah, I don't, I don't like it very much. Um, 45:25.086 --> 45:28.356 but I do love that— so as they're kind of leaving the diner and they're 45:28.452 --> 45:31.754 on their night out. Yeah. So we've got another great music drop, 45:31.899 --> 45:35.041 uh, Pick Up the Pieces by the Average White Band. Great instrumental, uh, 45:35.121 --> 45:38.798 funk song. And, uh, they're each in their own individual 45:38.894 --> 45:42.829 cars, kind of driving in a synchronized way, so close 45:43.329 --> 45:46.829 to one another. It is so funny the way these cars are like 45:47.329 --> 45:50.908 traveling, right, from place to place. And it's like the fact that none of them 45:51.020 --> 45:54.859 are driving together, it's like a combination of like the 45:54.939 --> 45:58.039 optimism that they all have, like, well, I'm taking somebody, right? I'm gonna meet a 45:58.539 --> 46:01.990 beautiful baby tonight. The overconfidence that they have that I'll definitely be okay to drive 46:02.539 --> 46:06.108 You know, it's fucking crazy. So I do love— and it's 46:06.608 --> 46:09.354 a very LA thing though. It's such a car culture, and that's like, 46:09.741 --> 46:12.971 it really hammers it home that all these guys who are going to and 46:13.471 --> 46:16.350 coming from the same 5 places are all driving themselves. 46:16.447 --> 46:19.132 Absolutely. So there's this party, they go to the party in the hills, and there's 46:19.632 --> 46:21.865 a great moment where they all walk in and stop and kind of survey the, 46:21.930 --> 46:24.840 the, the room. But the room all looks to turn to see them, to see 46:24.856 --> 46:28.234 whether they are anyone who was worth knowing is there. And of course, after a 46:28.734 --> 46:30.902 moment, everybody looking at each other, everyone else in the party turns back because no, 46:30.918 --> 46:34.007 none of these guys are famous. Yeah, nobody famous just walked in 46:34.507 --> 46:37.921 the Hollywood Hills, you gotta look. Maybe the last guy that walked in is famous. 46:37.986 --> 46:40.881 You don't know if Skeet Ulrich isn't coming around the corner, you know what I 46:41.381 --> 46:43.259 mean? Yeah, seriously. But yeah, so they just go and they get some drinks. 46:43.388 --> 46:46.834 And I love Mike and Rob are hanging out at the bar, 46:47.044 --> 46:49.131 making themselves some drinks. And a guy walks up to Mike and he's just like, 46:49.309 --> 46:52.059 "Hey Mike, how you doing, man?" He's like, "Oh hey, how you doing?" And they're 46:52.559 --> 46:55.208 just like talking like they've known each other for 100 years, like whatever. And he 46:55.708 --> 46:57.145 goes, "All right, well hey man, I gotta talk to some people, man. I'll talk 46:57.645 --> 46:59.631 to you later. You call me, okay?" "Oh yeah, I'm gonna call you." And Rob 47:00.131 --> 47:02.963 goes, "Who's that guy?" He goes, I don't know. I don't know. 47:03.429 --> 47:06.272 I don't know. I don't know that guy. 47:06.883 --> 47:10.291 This exchange here is one of my favorites here. So Rob is— 47:10.404 --> 47:13.104 he's kind of new to the group and he's clarifying, like, who is everyone? 47:13.492 --> 47:16.402 He's like, so, so your friend's name is Sue? He's like, oh yeah, yeah, 47:16.418 --> 47:19.667 Sue. Yes. His parents were big Johnny Cash fans. He's like, 47:19.700 --> 47:22.391 okay. He's like, yeah, he's a nice guy. He's a bad guy though. He's like, 47:23.019 --> 47:25.324 what do you mean he's a bad guy? He's like, oh, he's a mean guy. 47:25.694 --> 47:28.310 I seen him in a fight once. He took a guy, he took the back 47:28.810 --> 47:31.651 of his head and just fucking smashing his teeth up against the curb. His fucking 47:31.683 --> 47:34.911 teeth are breaking. He's fucking smashing blood everywhere. Nice guy though. 47:35.008 --> 47:38.943 That guy's cool. It's a cool guy. We've all known that 47:39.443 --> 47:42.621 guy too, dude. Where would you— you're in with people where like, if I'm describing 47:42.654 --> 47:45.735 this person to you in 2 sentences, they're going to sound like the biggest piece 47:46.235 --> 47:49.065 of shit that's ever lived. So I have to be like, oh, but it's cool. 47:49.194 --> 47:52.103 But it's like, but I'm friends with those, but it's cool. You know, just don't 47:52.603 --> 47:55.395 piss them off, I guess. Yeah. Yeah, um, so yeah, so there's that. And then 47:55.895 --> 47:57.975 they go and they meet up. Trent and, and, uh, Sue are hanging out kind 47:58.475 --> 47:59.866 of in the main— it looks like the main room of this house. A lot 48:00.366 --> 48:03.712 of people in there. And there is, uh, a woman, uh, smoking a cigar over 48:04.212 --> 48:06.709 by the fireplace who we recognize, of course, from Starship Troopers. She's one of the, 48:07.094 --> 48:10.507 one of the, uh, uh, boot camp mates of Casper Van Dien in that movie. 48:10.940 --> 48:13.744 Uh, they refer to her as Groucho here, uh, because she's smoking a cigar. 48:14.545 --> 48:17.430 And basically, like, Trent's trying to get her attention without looking at her, and he 48:17.930 --> 48:20.809 keeps asking Sue to glance to see if she's looking at him and not all 48:21.309 --> 48:23.433 this stuff, go back and forth. And then finally, oh yeah, man, she looked over. 48:23.481 --> 48:25.719 Okay, all right, well, here we go. And then Mike, of course, comes over, 48:25.735 --> 48:27.763 hey, what's going on? And stares right at her, 48:28.295 --> 48:31.288 at which point Sue and Trent are both like, oh, you fucking— you fucked it 48:31.788 --> 48:34.168 up. Like, now I gotta go in early. I wanted to wait longer. You know, 48:34.217 --> 48:37.908 there's this whole like unspoken rule Mike didn't even know about that he's not broken, 48:38.021 --> 48:41.651 right? Yeah. Um, but Trent goes to talk to her and she tells like a 48:41.732 --> 48:45.572 really boring story about why she should be an actress, and because 48:46.072 --> 48:48.074 someone told her she was dramatic in kindergarten or whatever. And it's playing like the 48:48.574 --> 48:52.696 Jaws music, like And it's 48:53.196 --> 48:56.431 getting more intense, so it's kind of like half over her story, so you're only 48:56.463 --> 48:59.653 kind of half hearing it. Really funny of just 49:00.153 --> 49:03.725 illustrating like, oh, having to sit through making the mistake of entering 49:03.757 --> 49:07.412 a conversation that you can't leave until this terrible story is done, right? 49:07.541 --> 49:10.747 It would be too rude to just walk away. That would like draw attention to 49:11.247 --> 49:14.306 you, rudeness. So instead he waits to get her number, but then as he's walking 49:14.418 --> 49:18.524 back towards the boys, Trent rips the number stop. Yes. And Mike is offended 49:19.024 --> 49:21.621 by this. Dude, she saw that. No, she didn't fucking see it. Whatever. And sure 49:22.121 --> 49:24.141 enough, she looks over him and just gives him the call me hands, you know? 49:24.205 --> 49:27.656 And it's like, okay, see, she's cool. Yeah. She didn't notice 49:28.156 --> 49:30.448 kind of thing. And then one of the jokes that does not hold up at 49:30.528 --> 49:33.914 all, in my opinion, is that she's business class, which means she's too 49:33.979 --> 49:37.092 big of an ass to fly coach. Which, first of all, this woman looked skinny 49:37.108 --> 49:40.735 as hell. Like, I don't know what was being referenced here, but like, 49:40.879 --> 49:43.913 yeah. Yeah, it would have been better if he was It's like, yeah, she was 49:44.025 --> 49:47.044 fucking annoying. You're right. Like, which she legitimately was. 49:47.172 --> 49:50.721 Super irritating story. Uh, before, um, 49:50.994 --> 49:54.253 before Rob and Mike came up to T and Sue here, 49:54.864 --> 49:58.316 they were kind of like checking out the women walking by and Rob 49:58.816 --> 50:01.061 kept commenting, oh my God, I can't believe how beautiful the women are here. 50:01.206 --> 50:04.225 Let's go talk to someone. And they got, they got their courage up. And when 50:04.257 --> 50:07.773 they go over, Mike talks to like just the most repellent woman, 50:07.853 --> 50:11.804 just the worst attitude I've ever seen in somebody's face. Like, the hate 50:12.304 --> 50:15.161 in somebody's eyes is at how bothered she was. And he just went up and 50:15.661 --> 50:17.843 he said, hey, how you doing this evening? And she just turns and says, 50:18.293 --> 50:21.987 what do you drive? And he's just like, what? She's like, what kind of a 50:22.487 --> 50:25.826 car do you drive? So I love this scene because as he's kind of stumbling 50:25.922 --> 50:28.829 with how to answer the question, Rob is looking at him like, 50:29.135 --> 50:32.186 come on, man, we gotta get out of here. Like, giving him these very slight 50:32.686 --> 50:36.022 head nods. And that's such a good friend You've got to do that to your 50:36.054 --> 50:38.650 friends. You can't let them die like that. You got to try to pull them 50:38.698 --> 50:42.912 out. So props to Rob there. Also, that, that woman's hubris and 50:43.008 --> 50:46.389 sort of expectation of kind of the social capital 50:46.889 --> 50:50.155 that she would have to expend in that, in that facility, not commiserate with her 50:50.655 --> 50:54.578 appearance. Like, the forehead goes back way too far. I didn't like 50:55.078 --> 50:58.456 it at all. Like, it was a very strange-looking person. And then she was very 50:58.568 --> 51:01.436 rude just to anybody walking up to her. But hey, you know You know, 51:01.597 --> 51:03.440 she didn't want to talk to him. That's fine. You don't want to talk to 51:03.940 --> 51:06.902 somebody, just tell them to fuck off. So yeah, so then the whole thing happens 51:07.402 --> 51:11.310 with Groucho, and Charles walks back up to the group and is like, 51:11.374 --> 51:15.172 this place is dead anyway. Yeah, they're all out of whatever the 51:15.672 --> 51:18.907 Scotch, they're all out of Glenfiddich. Well, because he like opened it. He opened 51:19.407 --> 51:21.567 a thing of Glenfiddich, and you know, because you can see him taking it out 51:22.067 --> 51:23.699 of the tube where they put it together. And now he says, yeah, they're out 51:23.715 --> 51:26.696 of Glenfiddich. So either Charles just drank an entire bottle of Scotch to himself in 51:27.196 --> 51:29.004 the last like 5 or 6 minutes, or he was just passing it around, 51:29.052 --> 51:32.322 which I'm kind of hoping. Pooping because he then drives. So they all drive. 51:32.646 --> 51:36.301 So we get another great synchronized drive, and then this time they all 51:36.511 --> 51:40.115 park in a synchronized way and then all zip the club onto their steering 51:40.148 --> 51:43.599 wheel, which is very enjoyable, very funny. Classic. I had a club back— you had 51:44.099 --> 51:46.680 a club, I'm assuming, at some point in the '90s? I never had— you never 51:47.180 --> 51:50.511 had a car worth clubbing? I didn't either. I, I drove an 51:50.705 --> 51:53.890 '83 Accord that cost probably $2,000, but I still had a club for some reason. 51:54.036 --> 51:56.380 I mean, you know, hey, quadruple digits. 51:57.902 --> 52:01.427 My first car was $925 and it was a Datsun 52:01.927 --> 52:04.504 280Z, which we might get into soon in this podcast. 52:05.337 --> 52:09.006 Um, okay. So this place they go into is the Dresden. 52:09.262 --> 52:12.275 Once again, just hits you with the music right when you walk through the door 52:12.803 --> 52:16.392 and we get a funky, like, 2-man version of Stayin' Alive. They seem 52:17.354 --> 52:20.815 really hammered or zanned out or I don't know what happened, or that's just 52:21.315 --> 52:24.532 their style, but it's really funny. And they started playing— Marty and Elaine started playing 52:24.580 --> 52:27.678 at the Dresden in like the late '80s. '80s, and they did not stop until 52:27.694 --> 52:31.084 like, I think I read it was like 2016 or 2018 when Marty died 52:31.584 --> 52:34.860 at 82. Damn. So they played there like basically like 6 nights a 52:35.360 --> 52:38.057 week, or maybe it was even every night, but like a lot. I love that. 52:38.234 --> 52:40.467 Until he died. And so yeah, so they were there and they were playing, 52:40.483 --> 52:43.793 and it's just a neat little atmosphere thing, you know? 52:44.162 --> 52:46.733 So they all grab a booth near the back. There's enough space for all 5 52:47.233 --> 52:50.734 of them to sit, and Sue and Trent are scoping out some girls 52:50.766 --> 52:54.685 sitting at another table. There's a line that I initially was like 52:55.185 --> 52:57.623 offended by when Trent said it, but then I realized what he was referencing. 52:57.976 --> 53:00.304 He said, "It looks like somebody got out of school early." And I thought to 53:00.804 --> 53:04.174 myself, are they saying that these girls look so young that they could be like 53:04.674 --> 53:06.358 in school? Like, that's gross. Oh, but they were wearing like those outfits, right? 53:06.422 --> 53:08.991 One of them was wearing like a plaid skirt. Yeah, yeah. And I think that's 53:09.491 --> 53:10.934 the reference he's making was like the plaid skirt thing. So I was like, 53:11.062 --> 53:14.338 oh, okay, all right. I'm not gonna get pissed about that. But basically they're 53:14.838 --> 53:17.212 chatting up some girls and then Mike goes up to get a drink from the 53:17.228 --> 53:20.808 bar and he's standing next to a woman drinking a martini. 53:21.166 --> 53:24.456 And he's trying to get the bartender's attention and he can't. And she just nods, 53:24.876 --> 53:26.747 you know, he's like, I can't get this guy's attention. She just nods. And the 53:27.247 --> 53:30.762 guy goes, one second, Nikki. And it's like, obviously she's a regular and 53:30.778 --> 53:33.919 she helps, you know, Mike get the attention of the bartender. He buys her 53:34.419 --> 53:37.752 a drink or no, gets her more olives, right? Yeah. He gets his drink and 53:38.252 --> 53:40.342 he tries to chat her up. He does, you know, he does a good job 53:40.842 --> 53:44.455 of trying, but you know, it doesn't quite work out because she works at 53:44.955 --> 53:47.363 Starbucks. Well, I think he came in like, do I know you from somewhere? 53:47.508 --> 53:50.569 And he's trying to name it. Oh yeah. His comedy credits, right? 53:50.666 --> 53:53.869 Right. And what she remembers from is that she worked at Starbucks and he came 53:53.918 --> 53:57.362 and asked for an application, right? And she introduced him to her 53:57.862 --> 54:01.655 manager or whatever. He's also, you notice, still doing the like, uh, lying just a 54:01.703 --> 54:04.949 little bit too close to the reality, to the truth, because he talks about being 54:04.997 --> 54:08.098 in the Vegas circuit. He's got a booking agent in Vegas now. And it's like, 54:08.130 --> 54:11.077 man, you're not really learning the lesson of like, either just tell them the truth, 54:11.109 --> 54:13.156 or if you're gonna lie, you just gotta make shit up. Have a good lie. 54:13.365 --> 54:16.556 Because it's, you know— but yeah, he's playing that game. She doesn't really question 54:16.668 --> 54:19.661 it though, except for the Starbucks stuff. But he basically walks away. He's like, 54:19.677 --> 54:22.652 "Okay, well, this is dead," right? And then as he's walking back to the booth, 54:22.668 --> 54:25.012 Trent and Sue are like, "Hey, we got digits." He's like, "Yeah, what a big 54:25.077 --> 54:27.063 fucking surprise." I'm like, "Well, we saw you talking to that nice looking girl. 54:27.128 --> 54:30.694 Like, what's going on?" And this is their, I don't love the analogy they 54:30.710 --> 54:33.136 use of like the bunny and the bear and the claws and trying to kill 54:33.636 --> 54:36.398 the bunny or whatever. Like, it can feel violent, but I understand like the bunny 54:36.430 --> 54:38.924 is sort of like, it's obviously a metaphor, not for the person, but for the 54:39.424 --> 54:42.512 like barrier. It's the conversation. Yeah, it's like the barrier between you and the 54:42.528 --> 54:45.832 other person is sort of what they're talking about. Going. And this is a good— 54:46.106 --> 54:48.658 they're good hype men. They are good hype men. This is, you know, this is 54:48.674 --> 54:51.485 the, you're so money and you don't even know it. You know, we've got these 54:51.581 --> 54:53.697 claws and you, you know, you're batting the bunny around. You don't know how to 54:54.197 --> 54:57.222 kill the bunny and stuff. And it's like, they're really, really good hype guys. 54:57.319 --> 55:00.245 And I think this is fantastic. And sure enough, you know, I love this line 55:00.745 --> 55:02.250 where Trent goes to Mike and he goes, look, I want you to go back 55:02.750 --> 55:04.676 over there and I want you to— I don't want you to act like the 55:04.692 --> 55:08.008 guy in the PG-13 movie everybody's really hoping makes 55:08.508 --> 55:10.079 it. I want you to act like the guy in the rated R movie. 55:10.673 --> 55:12.923 The guy you're not sure you think, you know, sure you like him yet or 55:13.423 --> 55:15.896 not. Go be that guy. You're a bad man. You're a bad man. You're a 55:16.396 --> 55:18.017 bad man. And you like hit him on the ass as he goes along. 55:18.066 --> 55:20.863 And I'm thinking while watching, I was going, he wanted— it's Trent. Trent's the guy 55:21.363 --> 55:22.335 in the 2 Dads 2 Decades movie. You're not sure if you like it. 55:22.481 --> 55:25.959 Totally. Yeah. No. And he gets it. I mean, 55:26.347 --> 55:30.160 he knows how to like— he's had successful interactions 55:30.660 --> 55:33.045 and yeah. And he knows what Mike needs to hear from him. So yeah, 55:33.077 --> 55:35.849 Mike goes over and it doesn't show any of the conversation, just kind of shows 55:36.344 --> 55:39.543 goes, talks to her, walks away with the number. We get— it's 55:40.043 --> 55:43.469 a very brief shot, but I love the shot of his friends all like looking 55:43.566 --> 55:47.114 up very happily. Like Charles, Rob, and Sue and T are 55:47.614 --> 55:50.174 all just like so proud of him. Yeah. So I really like that shot, 55:50.271 --> 55:53.248 and I think it was a great choice. Uh, again, I don't— I haven't read 55:53.748 --> 55:55.003 the screenplay, so I don't know if this is how Favreau wrote it, but I'm 55:55.503 --> 55:57.402 assuming it is. But like a great choice by either him or Lyman or both 55:57.740 --> 56:00.880 to not give us that, that conversation. Yeah. You know, because then it's like you'd 56:01.380 --> 56:04.060 have to sort of explain like what exactly did Mike say that was so different. 56:04.109 --> 56:05.125 But now we can kind of imagine and be like, hey, he probably walked up, 56:05.141 --> 56:08.366 was a little self-deprecating, and probably just straight up ask for 56:08.866 --> 56:11.116 her number. Yeah, because she was clearly enjoying the conversation, even though she thought it 56:11.616 --> 56:13.802 was kind of funny what he was saying, you know, right, about the, the job 56:13.866 --> 56:16.989 and all that stuff. But she seemed to be enjoying it. She cared enough to 56:17.246 --> 56:18.998 like let him, you know, help him get a drink, you know what I mean? 56:19.046 --> 56:22.163 There's like a nice little opening there. So hopefully he just walked up and asked 56:22.663 --> 56:25.794 for it. She works at Starbucks. She wouldn't think someone was a loser for asking 56:25.843 --> 56:29.234 for an application to work at Starbucks. Yeah, much better than the model from the 56:29.734 --> 56:33.227 other party or whatever, you know. Um, yeah, so then they head outside. They're done 56:33.276 --> 56:35.362 for the night at the Dresden. They head outside, and as they go outside, 56:35.394 --> 56:37.463 Sue bumps into a guy shoulder to shoulder pretty hard. Yeah. Oh, a quick, 56:37.479 --> 56:41.313 uh, quick conversation. Conversation that's important here is Mike's like, 56:41.378 --> 56:43.620 how long do I wait to call her? Oh, that's right. And they're like, 56:43.636 --> 56:46.878 well, industry standard's 2 days, but I feel like everybody's waiting 2 days, so I 56:46.942 --> 56:49.938 think it's kind of money to wait 3 days. And, you know, going through all 56:50.438 --> 56:52.532 this stuff, and Mike's like, oh, how about if I just wait 3 weeks, 56:52.548 --> 56:55.257 you know? And I'll say, I was looking at my wallet, found your number, 56:56.190 --> 56:58.392 uh, I remember you. Where do we meet? And should I ask her if we 56:58.892 --> 57:02.458 fucked? Yeah, another good joke by Mike. Mike's the comedian being very funny there in 57:02.474 --> 57:06.431 that moment, and Charles and Rob visibly enjoyed his, his material 57:06.529 --> 57:09.754 there. And so then he's like, "Well, how long are you guys gonna 57:10.254 --> 57:12.276 wait to ask your girls?" And Sue and T at the same time both say, 57:12.357 --> 57:16.374 "6 days." 6 days. So really good. So now we're 57:16.422 --> 57:19.853 leaving the dressing room. Right, so we're leaving the dressing room. Some guys are walking 57:19.869 --> 57:23.686 in as they're walking out and everybody passes fine except Sue bumps shoulders hard with 57:24.186 --> 57:26.772 this guy, this tall guy from the other group. And it's like, "Watch your going," 57:26.788 --> 57:29.199 you know, "Fuck you." He kind of said, "What'd you say, bitch?" Like there's this 57:29.699 --> 57:33.169 whole like jawing happening. And these guys look like on the tough side of things. 57:33.217 --> 57:35.611 Like they certainly look, you know, look, Sue looks like he could hold his own 57:35.659 --> 57:38.410 in a scrap. I'm sure T could if he absolutely had to. Charles, 57:38.602 --> 57:41.022 maybe. Rob and Mike do not look like the kind of guys to me that 57:41.183 --> 57:43.506 are gonna fight a lot, just, just by their looks, you know what I mean? 57:43.555 --> 57:47.337 Like, they were like 5 or 6 very excited to get in a fight 57:47.837 --> 57:51.392 guys versus just Sue and the other guys being like, come on, man, let's fuck. 57:51.504 --> 57:54.773 Like, you know, but Sue ends up pulling a gun. He's got 57:55.273 --> 57:57.161 a gun in his back of his pants, and he pulls a gun out on 57:57.177 --> 57:59.630 them and waves it at him, and they all, you know, run off and into 57:59.678 --> 58:02.691 their car and drive away. And all the friends are like, what the fuck is 58:02.787 --> 58:05.528 wrong with you? And I love that Mike goes, didn't you see Boyz n the 58:06.028 --> 58:08.563 Hood? Now one of us is gonna get shot. Really good line. He's absolutely right. 58:08.660 --> 58:10.932 And this is when he says, you know, like, Charles and Robert both just like, 58:11.013 --> 58:12.801 I got to go, I got to call back in the morning, I'm leaving. 58:12.849 --> 58:14.928 So they leave. So Mike and Trent and Sue are left chatting, 58:16.500 --> 58:19.430 and, and Trent and Mike are both like telling Sue he's an idiot for having 58:19.930 --> 58:22.328 the gun, for pulling the gun, like all this stuff. And they're right, um, 58:22.473 --> 58:25.227 and you know, Sue's like, you know, you didn't grow up out here, I grew 58:25.727 --> 58:28.577 up, I grew up in LA. And Trent corrects him, Anaheim, which I always love 58:28.995 --> 58:32.555 that line. Not that like there isn't shit that happens in Anaheim, 58:32.571 --> 58:36.329 because it's a city that we would quote all the time, like And 58:36.523 --> 58:39.692 just because we always had friends, like in college, you know, 58:39.756 --> 58:43.232 when you move in the dorms, everyone has their hometown. Oh yeah, yeah, sure. 58:43.426 --> 58:46.045 So we'd have people who were like, oh yeah, you know, I'm from wherever. 58:46.094 --> 58:49.219 It's like, actually, you know, it said Newport Beach there, so you're not, 58:49.235 --> 58:52.781 you're not really from Compton. It's like, it's like Oakland, uh, San Ramon. 58:53.732 --> 58:57.035 It's like, that's not the same thing at all. Um, but yeah, so, 58:57.116 --> 59:00.451 so they're basically, you know, they're having this conversation, 59:00.500 --> 59:03.529 and this is when Sue basically like kind of fucking gets him down, really. 59:03.710 --> 59:06.227 You know, have you fucked even once since you've been out here? Like, you're such 59:06.727 --> 59:09.729 a pussy. Like, all this stuff. And Trent is coming to Mike's defense, but Mike 59:09.858 --> 59:11.698 leaves. He's like, I'm not fucking listening to this anymore. And he goes home, 59:12.670 --> 59:15.289 which is probably the biggest mistake of the night he could have made. He probably 59:15.789 --> 59:17.731 should have stayed and gotten verbally abused by Sue because it would have been better 59:18.231 --> 59:21.434 than what comes next, uh, which is he gets home and he puts, 59:21.661 --> 59:24.576 uh, the card that he had that has Nikki's name on the back, right? 59:24.978 --> 59:28.680 I think is— no, no, that's right. He just decides to call her. It's like 59:29.180 --> 59:32.747 3 or 2:30 in the morning. Yeah. Something, which is insane. And so he calls 59:33.247 --> 59:35.771 her and he's like trying to leave her, leave his number. Hey, I, you know, 59:36.093 --> 59:38.377 thought it was really nice talking to you. You should give me a call tomorrow, 59:39.260 --> 59:42.496 blah, blah, blah. Tries to leave his number and sure enough, the beep of like 59:42.996 --> 59:46.136 the end of the message comes right as he's saying that last digit of 59:46.636 --> 59:49.194 his phone number. So he calls back to like leave the number again. And I 59:49.694 --> 59:52.008 think it's cut off again. It's, he ends up calling like, I think it's 6 59:52.508 --> 59:56.573 times, leaves 6 messages. The last of which is like, I don't 59:57.073 --> 01:00:00.133 think this is working out. And every time the amount of time he's allotted for 01:00:00.198 --> 01:00:03.738 his message is completely random. 01:00:03.818 --> 01:00:07.358 Yes, you know, one time he's calling, it's like, I'm just calling back, my number's 01:00:07.858 --> 01:00:09.755 825-6— oh shit. 01:00:11.937 --> 01:00:14.809 Really good comedy by Favreau here, just excellently done. 01:00:15.584 --> 01:00:18.246 And then the last time he calls and he's basically like, you know, I don't 01:00:18.746 --> 01:00:20.989 think this is working out, it's me, it's not you, I just got— you know, 01:00:21.070 --> 01:00:23.964 she like picks up and he's like, oh hi, have you been there the whole 01:00:23.980 --> 01:00:27.167 time? She's like, Mike, never call me ever again. 01:00:27.927 --> 01:00:31.331 Oh, okay. And she hangs up. And this is the end, by the way, 01:00:31.347 --> 01:00:34.962 of another episode. I mean, this really is so too, you know. And so 01:00:35.462 --> 01:00:38.802 then we cut to the kind of next episode of the 01:00:39.302 --> 01:00:42.594 movie, and Mike is on his— sitting on his floor. The blinds are 01:00:43.094 --> 01:00:46.081 closed. He's got a, you know, a few days old beard. He's obviously not shaving. 01:00:46.129 --> 01:00:48.829 He's like wrapped up in a blanket, looking through old pictures of him and his 01:00:48.990 --> 01:00:52.233 girlfriend, reminiscing in the worst possible way. And who comes over but 01:00:52.314 --> 01:00:55.121 Rob? Because of course we have to start each episode with Rob and Mike talking. 01:00:55.234 --> 01:00:58.430 Yeah, Rob. Exactly. And, and again, Rob being 01:00:58.666 --> 01:01:01.635 like putting in the effort to be a good friend. Yeah. He comes over, 01:01:01.683 --> 01:01:05.105 he's got some OJ and a salami, the two things that you want. 01:01:05.153 --> 01:01:09.221 So weird. Whatever. And they're both eating the salami like, like, like it's the Wild 01:01:09.254 --> 01:01:13.378 West and they have an apple. Old hobo style. They're, they're Christopher 01:01:13.459 --> 01:01:17.362 Lloyd in the Dennis the Menace movie. So yeah, 01:01:17.395 --> 01:01:20.619 it's really funny. And opening blinds. He's doing all the things that you need 01:01:20.667 --> 01:01:22.908 to do when you have your friend and he's being such a good friend. 01:01:23.021 --> 01:01:26.425 So he has this conversation with But then what Rob says to him, the first 01:01:26.925 --> 01:01:28.922 of a few people who say this to him, is, uh, hey, it's been 2 01:01:29.422 --> 01:01:31.806 days. You should call that Nikki girl. You should call that Nikki girl, see if 01:01:32.306 --> 01:01:35.639 she wants to hang out. Um, and so he gets into it with 01:01:35.703 --> 01:01:38.682 Mike, but part of what Rob says is like, you know, 01:01:39.084 --> 01:01:42.063 you're saying— like, when I look at you, I think you're doing great. Like, 01:01:42.127 --> 01:01:45.353 the reason I moved here is because you were doing so well. Like, you were 01:01:45.433 --> 01:01:48.935 in a movie. Yeah, you're hosting an open mic. Like, you have something going on 01:01:49.145 --> 01:01:52.098 and you have a plan. And if you're 'Your life sucks, then my life must 01:01:52.598 --> 01:01:55.826 be god-awful.' And, you know, I refuse to believe that. Yeah, right. It's gonna fuck 01:01:55.842 --> 01:01:58.783 me up. So just a great, a great, like, 01:01:58.799 --> 01:02:02.077 pump-up convo. And it, like, right before Rob showed up, 01:02:02.093 --> 01:02:05.387 T had left a message. Oh yeah. For Mikey saying, 'Hey, we're gonna 01:02:05.887 --> 01:02:08.751 be doing this tonight.' And again, he lists like 1,000 or 5 places, 01:02:08.929 --> 01:02:12.384 alternate places. If we're not there, we'll be here. And if we're not there, 01:02:12.514 --> 01:02:14.476 and then of course we'll always end up at, you know, the whole deal. 01:02:15.280 --> 01:02:18.041 And, uh, so, so Rob gets through to Mike. I mean, he really does. 01:02:18.107 --> 01:02:20.732 It's clear he gets through to Mike. And, uh, you know, one of the things 01:02:20.748 --> 01:02:23.053 Trent said they were gonna do that night was hang out at Sue's for a 01:02:23.553 --> 01:02:26.164 little hockey before they go out. So sure enough, he heads over, uh, to Sue's 01:02:26.664 --> 01:02:29.950 place. You know, he shaves, he's looking good, he's dressed up like whatever. And the 01:02:30.014 --> 01:02:33.121 guys from, from the outside of the Dresden are there, uh, 01:02:33.411 --> 01:02:37.210 you know, the Fowls of Pain they referred to them initially, uh, and Mike 01:02:37.710 --> 01:02:40.874 is definitely taken aback at first. Um, but Trent and one of the guys from, 01:02:40.971 --> 01:02:43.719 from the other group are playing hockey against each other and jawing at each other. 01:02:44.042 --> 01:02:46.628 And Sue gets up to apologize to Mike. He's like, dude, I should never fucking 01:02:46.644 --> 01:02:48.575 said that shit. And Mike's like, he's like, no, no, look, like, I needed a 01:02:49.075 --> 01:02:51.656 kick in the ass. We're better friends for it. Which is a fucking— one of 01:02:52.156 --> 01:02:55.685 the most honest for guys that are like 25, 26 years old. I mean, 01:02:55.701 --> 01:02:59.248 that's such a mature way to do— to see that. But it's also— it's, 01:02:59.392 --> 01:03:03.324 it's, it's incredibly honest way of how, at least at the time, I know 01:03:03.824 --> 01:03:06.759 for sure, and into the early 2000s, I don't know today, the, the younger generation 01:03:06.791 --> 01:03:10.241 now seems much more emotionally in tune with themselves than we were in our 01:03:10.741 --> 01:03:13.852 20s. So maybe it's different now, but like, this was how guys fought made up 01:03:14.012 --> 01:03:18.262 when they were friends, when they were really friends. You'd say stupid shit intentionally 01:03:18.762 --> 01:03:21.790 hurting the other guy's feelings because you were pissed about something. And then eventually, 01:03:21.967 --> 01:03:23.875 a day later, whatever, the next time you see him, somebody would just be like, 01:03:23.955 --> 01:03:26.104 dude, that was fucked up. I shouldn't have fucking said it. And the other guy's 01:03:26.604 --> 01:03:29.247 like, yeah, well, you know, I probably needed it. You know? And it's like, 01:03:29.311 --> 01:03:32.006 here we are. And that's just, that's just how it works. And I think it's 01:03:32.038 --> 01:03:35.646 such a great, really shows how, you know, even though 01:03:35.662 --> 01:03:38.934 there is this sort of underlying note of like toxic masculinity, 01:03:38.950 --> 01:03:42.315 especially in Soo and Trent. Um, there's still this element of like real 01:03:42.815 --> 01:03:45.840 friendship. It's not that they just, you know, Sue doesn't just hang out with Mike 01:03:46.340 --> 01:03:50.054 because Mike is Trent's friend, right? Which is kind of intimated 01:03:50.070 --> 01:03:52.714 at early. It seemed like maybe that'd be the case, but no, Sue and Sue 01:03:52.730 --> 01:03:55.710 really likes Mike. Mike really likes you. They're definitely buds, and that's cool. 01:03:56.655 --> 01:03:59.940 Yeah, it's, uh, it's— the relationships are really 01:04:00.004 --> 01:04:03.353 great. And I love that the guys that they had beef with in the parking 01:04:03.369 --> 01:04:06.541 lot are back, and Sue's like, uh, you know, we ran into him at 01:04:06.653 --> 01:04:09.586 Roscoe's, bought him some chicken and waffles, everything is cool. 01:04:10.050 --> 01:04:13.496 That's another thing that we would say all the time is just to, to refer 01:04:13.996 --> 01:04:17.406 to, um, to resolving any kind of beef is you're just like, bought him some 01:04:17.906 --> 01:04:21.251 chicken and waffles, everything's cool. Those guys love it. They love tea. 01:04:21.332 --> 01:04:24.424 That boy can talk. And I shout out to people like that because I have 01:04:24.440 --> 01:04:27.309 friends like that. One of my friends, Ryan, every time I go out with him 01:04:27.741 --> 01:04:31.507 will get in like seemingly make enemies with the entire building that we're in, 01:04:31.651 --> 01:04:35.356 and then by the end of the night he's like everyone's best friend. So it's 01:04:35.420 --> 01:04:37.765 quite a skill set. It's quite a skill to have. Yeah. 01:04:38.439 --> 01:04:41.539 So they're going to go see Big Bad Voodoo Dad at the Derby. Yeah, 01:04:41.603 --> 01:04:45.136 at the Derby. And we get one of the coolest scenes in this 01:04:45.636 --> 01:04:49.039 movie. And again, $200,000 budget, right? Yes. And what I 01:04:49.151 --> 01:04:52.074 read is that he spent like half of that on the music. Oh, well, 01:04:52.106 --> 01:04:55.126 that would make sense. Yeah. $100,000. 01:04:55.238 --> 01:04:58.916 $100,000 budget. Yeah. Yeah. And they kind of recreate a version 01:04:59.416 --> 01:05:02.626 of the Goodfellas, like walking into the back door of the Copa scene very effectively. 01:05:02.770 --> 01:05:06.017 Incredibly. And it's so fun. Like, it's great. I love, 01:05:06.308 --> 01:05:09.283 I love watching this part. It's fantastic. And it was so funny when they were 01:05:09.783 --> 01:05:12.597 talking about it at the coffee shop, you know, a little while previous to this, 01:05:12.856 --> 01:05:15.361 they talked about how, you know, I heard it was like, you know, a million 01:05:15.861 --> 01:05:18.239 dollars just to light that scene or like whatever it was, you know, it's kind 01:05:18.739 --> 01:05:20.422 of all this stuff and it took 3 days and like all this kind of, 01:05:20.519 --> 01:05:23.513 you know, whatever they're talking about, how difficult it is to shoot a follow shot 01:05:24.013 --> 01:05:27.313 like that on a single take. And yet, you know, Lyman pulls it off and 01:05:27.346 --> 01:05:29.814 it's look, is it as clean as the one in Goodfellas? Of course it's It's 01:05:30.314 --> 01:05:33.314 not Scorsese. You know, Lyman's not Scorsese, and Scorsese had, you know, 01:05:33.474 --> 01:05:36.075 $25 million or something to work with on that picture. So, you know, it was 01:05:36.123 --> 01:05:38.435 definitely a different world, but like, it really is a lot of fun. It's a 01:05:38.935 --> 01:05:41.711 clear homage. They do a great job when they come out into the Derby, 01:05:41.807 --> 01:05:45.387 into the dining room. Big Bad Voodoo Daddy is playing. They actually do two 01:05:45.451 --> 01:05:48.245 songs. They do both, uh, You and Me and the Bottle Makes Three and Go 01:05:48.745 --> 01:05:52.066 Daddy-O. Uh, and so yeah, it's a cool place. They've got a reserved table in 01:05:52.098 --> 01:05:55.389 the back. It's clear Trent knows people, or maybe Trent and Sue, right? And it 01:05:55.889 --> 01:05:58.616 almost looks like they they got seated at a table that was reserved for someone 01:05:59.116 --> 01:06:02.521 else because the way they just shoved the glasses and the napkins out 01:06:03.021 --> 01:06:04.828 of their way when they sit down. I think it's a set for dinner and 01:06:05.328 --> 01:06:08.362 they're just like, we're here for drinks, we're not, we're not eating. Yeah. Um, 01:06:08.555 --> 01:06:11.266 yeah. So then, uh, they're, they're hanging out. Trent and, 01:06:11.524 --> 01:06:14.347 uh, Sue are hanging out and these girls are showing up and like, there's obviously 01:06:14.847 --> 01:06:17.136 a girl Sue has some history with and Trent's not really making things better for 01:06:17.184 --> 01:06:20.197 him and saying stuff. He is being very funny. Uh, 01:06:20.825 --> 01:06:24.516 so this girl is obviously said that Sue's not, you know, paying attention or 01:06:24.532 --> 01:06:28.510 not following through. Yeah, what he said he would do. And Sue's like, 01:06:28.607 --> 01:06:31.558 I called you on Monday. She's like, I was home all day Monday. And Trent's 01:06:32.058 --> 01:06:34.670 like, you know, it's funny, as much as we've hung out, you've never mentioned her 01:06:34.702 --> 01:06:37.814 before. Just classic cockwalking between two guys who 01:06:38.314 --> 01:06:40.541 are messing with each other. We were hanging out on Monday all day. I don't 01:06:40.557 --> 01:06:42.658 remember you taking a break long enough to make a phone call. But there's— and 01:06:43.158 --> 01:06:47.374 so then Mike, the booth gets crowded because now there's 01:06:47.422 --> 01:06:50.813 like several girls girl next to him. 01:06:50.926 --> 01:06:54.097 Here's the thing. What happened? This is— she's a nice girl. This is what happened. 01:06:54.146 --> 01:06:56.411 He's like trying to explain to the girl next to him. So Mike gets up 01:06:56.911 --> 01:06:59.663 to go get a drink, and while he's standing at the bar trying to get 01:07:00.163 --> 01:07:03.451 the bartender's attention, he looks across and he sees Heather Graham, uh, who's gorgeous, 01:07:03.549 --> 01:07:07.175 and she's dolled up. She's got the sort of swing dance, you know, look to 01:07:07.675 --> 01:07:10.742 her. Yeah, the 1950s, uh, or '40s, waiting for my, 01:07:11.066 --> 01:07:14.439 my beau to come back from war. Totally. You're gonna run next to a train 01:07:14.488 --> 01:07:18.061 as it leaves town and wave. Exactly. That outfit and hairdo 01:07:18.240 --> 01:07:21.099 knowing. And he looks over to her, and then it kind of, uh, like a 01:07:21.164 --> 01:07:24.120 bartender passes into the shot, and when he comes out of it, uh, 01:07:24.136 --> 01:07:26.658 she's a bunny. Yeah, right. She's sitting as a bunny, and he kind of smiles 01:07:27.158 --> 01:07:29.550 to himself. And it's, it's, you know, he's gaining some— I think between the conversation 01:07:29.583 --> 01:07:33.519 Rob had with him and, you know, making up with Sue and, 01:07:33.599 --> 01:07:35.945 and the shit-talking Sue gave, I think there's a lot that's happened just in the 01:07:36.445 --> 01:07:39.416 last day that has helped Mike kind of get some recognition of, like, what he 01:07:39.916 --> 01:07:42.852 really needs to do with his life, which is no longer pine after Michelle. 01:07:43.276 --> 01:07:45.303 And so he's starting to turn this around. So he goes over to talk to 01:07:45.803 --> 01:07:48.889 her, or at least stand next to her at first. Yeah. But they start getting. 01:07:48.938 --> 01:07:52.587 And it really is, uh, you know, kind of fun because she's 01:07:53.087 --> 01:07:54.727 got a similar story. She came from like the Midwest, I think she said, 01:07:55.122 --> 01:07:58.242 um, but, you know, left somebody in order to do so, and it 01:07:58.258 --> 01:08:00.764 was a long relationship, and she's been out here for 4 months. And, you know, 01:08:00.780 --> 01:08:02.930 he's like, oh, it's 6 for me. And so they're like, they're commiserating kind of 01:08:02.946 --> 01:08:05.994 on this stuff. In the meantime, we get cut back, everyone's with Sue and Trent, 01:08:06.010 --> 01:08:09.304 who are getting progressively just destroyed, hammered, absolutely blotto. 01:08:09.866 --> 01:08:12.742 Um, yeah. And then Lorraine is like, so, you know, what's an advantage of being 01:08:12.774 --> 01:08:14.493 single? And he's like, well, you know, you could do whatever you want. He's like, 01:08:14.590 --> 01:08:17.023 so if I met a handsome man at a bar and wanted to dance with 01:08:17.523 --> 01:08:20.068 him, I could just ask him. And he's like, yeah, I mean, if, if, 01:08:20.292 --> 01:08:22.600 you know, if he wanted to, you could do that. And if he wanted to, 01:08:22.616 --> 01:08:25.436 he would, you know, yeah, he could, you could do that. He was just like 01:08:25.936 --> 01:08:29.602 stumbling. That scene, her saying that was like her turning 01:08:29.666 --> 01:08:33.047 into the bear and him turning into the 100%, like, because he just 01:08:33.547 --> 01:08:37.133 started like whimpering. Yes. And then she's like, she's like, do you want to 01:08:37.633 --> 01:08:40.867 come dance? And she takes him out there as this— they're kind of like in 01:08:40.899 --> 01:08:44.122 the middle towards the end of a slower song. So they're dancing, and then it 01:08:44.203 --> 01:08:46.774 ends the classic thing where it's like, okay, thanks for the dance. Yeah, right, 01:08:46.790 --> 01:08:50.412 right. And the fast 2 seconds, the Go Daddy-O song kicks on, 01:08:50.670 --> 01:08:54.506 and everybody around them look like professionally trained Lindy Hoppers because every 01:08:55.006 --> 01:08:58.312 single person, yeah, ready to roll. Absolutely going crazy. And, and clearly 01:08:58.731 --> 01:09:02.144 Favreau must have taken some dance lessons before this because they look good. They're not 01:09:02.644 --> 01:09:04.850 doing anything crazy. They're not doing the cradles and they're between the legs and the 01:09:05.350 --> 01:09:07.281 flips and, yeah, any of that kind of stuff, but they are doing a lot 01:09:07.330 --> 01:09:10.318 of nice spins. It's an awesome sequence. It's a great scene. It's a great dance. 01:09:10.366 --> 01:09:13.750 It's a good song to dance to. It's a great dance, and Mike's clear, 01:09:13.766 --> 01:09:16.636 and Trent and Sue are watching this. And so we keep seeing, cutting back to 01:09:17.136 --> 01:09:21.062 seeing them, and they are both just jaws on the floor watching Mike spin 01:09:21.562 --> 01:09:24.799 and twirl Lorraine. Yeah, dip her at the end. And it's a really great moment, 01:09:24.831 --> 01:09:28.937 and it's nice. And it's, and it's like you watch Mike gain confidence 01:09:28.985 --> 01:09:32.080 through the song and through the dance from beginning to end. 01:09:32.288 --> 01:09:35.047 Yeah, starts off very kind of timid and whatever, and then, and then just starts 01:09:35.416 --> 01:09:38.448 turning her a little more and spinning and then doing more and more. And it's 01:09:38.948 --> 01:09:40.773 like once he gets into the groove, it's like he gets out of his own 01:09:41.273 --> 01:09:43.900 head, which is exactly what he's all needed the whole time, is to get out 01:09:44.400 --> 01:09:46.129 of his own head. Yeah, out of his own way. And he starts doing that, 01:09:46.145 --> 01:09:49.192 and it's really, really awesome to watch. Yeah, it's, 01:09:49.288 --> 01:09:52.720 it's great to see the arc that the Mike character takes 01:09:52.977 --> 01:09:56.713 from sitting on the floor of his apartment carving up a salami with a Bowie 01:09:56.745 --> 01:09:59.119 knife to this. It's really nice. 01:10:00.658 --> 01:10:03.882 Yeah, so dances with her, obviously great, and it kind 01:10:04.382 --> 01:10:07.862 cuts to him like walking. He'd walked her to her car. Yes. And he takes 01:10:08.362 --> 01:10:10.821 her to her car and he's kind of chit-chatting and he's like, oh, you know, 01:10:10.853 --> 01:10:13.051 I want to hang out. She's like, I'm around. He's like, no, I want to— 01:10:13.551 --> 01:10:16.769 I'm going to make plans to see— not good enough. Yeah. And, and she 01:10:16.833 --> 01:10:19.501 recognizes— she asked for something to write on and he gives her one of his 01:10:19.566 --> 01:10:22.815 business cards. She recognizes the logo on there, I guess, as the 01:10:23.315 --> 01:10:25.394 logo from the show Let's Make a Deal. You Bet Your Life. Or You Bet 01:10:25.894 --> 01:10:29.629 Your Life. And he was like, nobody ever gets that. So again, these little connections 01:10:29.645 --> 01:10:32.479 that they're making, things that are important to Mike that he has not met a 01:10:32.495 --> 01:10:33.783 single person in L.A. who seems to notice or care about. Right. 01:10:35.770 --> 01:10:38.860 And she's noticing, which we learn a little bit in a minute too, some of 01:10:39.360 --> 01:10:42.579 the stuff she says. Yeah. Um, but yeah, so he ends up parting 01:10:42.643 --> 01:10:45.718 ways with her. I love where she says, uh, can I give you a ride 01:10:46.218 --> 01:10:48.686 to your car? He's like, no, actually, that's my hog right here. Points to the 01:10:49.186 --> 01:10:52.413 motorcycle. She's like, oh really? He's like, nah, actually, the piece of shit 01:10:52.913 --> 01:10:56.176 across the street. She's like, well, it suits you. And he's just like, get out 01:10:56.676 --> 01:10:59.163 of here. It's so great that there wasn't like a kiss scene. It was just 01:10:59.196 --> 01:11:02.784 like, I'm gonna flirt with you, I'm gonna continue flirting with you until 01:11:03.284 --> 01:11:06.108 our next state, you know. I, I love that. I was watching this this time 01:11:06.300 --> 01:11:09.012 and I was thinking to myself, I remember they don't kiss, I've seen this enough, 01:11:09.028 --> 01:11:11.354 I know they don't. But like part of me this time was like, oh man, 01:11:11.370 --> 01:11:14.483 I wish they kissed here. But as I watched the scene, I went, no, 01:11:14.563 --> 01:11:17.403 that would have felt so out of place. They really did a good choice not, 01:11:17.611 --> 01:11:20.740 not having him even try to kiss her here. Um, one line also that I 01:11:21.240 --> 01:11:23.275 just love, the little back and forth we missed when they first started chatting. 01:11:23.387 --> 01:11:26.435 She introduced herself, said her name's Lorraine, and he said, oh, like the quiche? 01:11:26.901 --> 01:11:29.387 Uh, and he go— and she said something about like, you know, I thought real 01:11:29.403 --> 01:11:31.794 men didn't like quiche or whatever. And he goes, well, it sounds like my reputation 01:11:32.294 --> 01:11:33.921 has preceded me. And he goes, you're not a real man. He goes like, 01:11:33.985 --> 01:11:37.383 not lately. Yeah. Great back and forth and disarming and wonderful. 01:11:37.463 --> 01:11:40.281 And, you know, obviously she's into dudes who are self-deprecating. Some people are, some people 01:11:40.781 --> 01:11:43.185 aren't. Totally. Um, but yeah, so there's that. So now we cut to, uh, 01:11:43.816 --> 01:11:47.859 back to the Hollywood Hills coffee shop. Yes. And, uh, Sue and Trent are drunk. 01:11:48.182 --> 01:11:51.786 Yeah. And so, so Mike was Sue and Trent's ride home that 01:11:51.931 --> 01:11:55.455 night. Exactly. You know, so he's kind of 01:11:55.955 --> 01:11:58.142 like, you know, I should have— too bad you had to take us home. 01:11:58.207 --> 01:12:01.079 You had to get good friend once again though. And, uh, 01:12:01.304 --> 01:12:04.576 yeah, and T is hammered. He's being his most obnoxious, right? Yes. 01:12:04.753 --> 01:12:07.930 Uh, very funny, but also if you're not in the mood for 01:12:08.042 --> 01:12:10.384 it, like there are definitely people there who are not in the mood for it, 01:12:10.400 --> 01:12:13.513 right? Uh, and some people might be loving his shit, but yeah, some of the 01:12:14.013 --> 01:12:16.978 stuff he says, look, some people don't like me, I don't like certain people. 01:12:17.604 --> 01:12:21.021 I like that line a lot. I, I still to this day say you're 01:12:21.037 --> 01:12:24.904 grown up, grown up, grown up, and grown up. Totally. All grown up. 01:12:24.968 --> 01:12:29.305 All grown up. So T is up on the table and he's undressing 01:12:29.353 --> 01:12:32.518 and all this stuff and these big plans, right? And then, 01:12:32.615 --> 01:12:35.121 you know, they're finally like, are you going to get out of here? He's like, 01:12:35.522 --> 01:12:38.274 I would never eat here. I would never eat here. Oh, so I'm the asshole? 01:12:38.403 --> 01:12:41.657 I'm the asshole is another one. He does with the bar with the— he's got 01:12:42.157 --> 01:12:43.988 the plate of food. He turns around to the guy in the booth behind him. 01:12:44.053 --> 01:12:46.464 He goes, here, I couldn't touch it. Yeah, I couldn't. I would never eat here. 01:12:46.512 --> 01:12:49.935 Like, he's like, I would never eat this food. It's so funny, 01:12:50.193 --> 01:12:53.792 but also so super annoying, obviously, but relatable. I mean, 01:12:53.905 --> 01:12:57.188 you're going out, you're partying that often. There are going to be several nights where 01:12:57.688 --> 01:13:01.460 you're encountering or hanging with people that are that drunk and annoying. So when I 01:13:01.960 --> 01:13:05.092 lived in Walnut Creek in my early 20s, there's a couple of 24-hour diners in 01:13:05.592 --> 01:13:08.168 town. There was Mel's and there was Hubcaps. And, uh, at the Mel's, I remember 01:13:08.668 --> 01:13:10.712 one night being out in the bars, and, and this was before I was dating 01:13:10.728 --> 01:13:14.076 my wife, uh, you know, now, uh, I was single and just living alone. 01:13:14.270 --> 01:13:16.121 And I was like, I'm gonna get some food before I go out. And I 01:13:16.621 --> 01:13:18.774 went to the, to Mel's, and the place was packed because it was like, 01:13:19.112 --> 01:13:22.148 you know, 1:45, 2 AM, right as like last call comes. There's much people out. 01:13:22.550 --> 01:13:24.815 And that was a place, and if you remember this, but like they had the 01:13:25.315 --> 01:13:28.360 jukeboxes at each table. Oh yeah, yeah. Music, and somebody put on Build Me Up 01:13:28.860 --> 01:13:32.317 Buttercup. And I swear to God, the entire diner— because it was entirely filled 01:13:32.542 --> 01:13:36.065 with drunk 20-somethings— sang along to that song. And for some 01:13:36.210 --> 01:13:38.651 reason, that made— that me— I— this scene made me think of that because it's 01:13:39.151 --> 01:13:41.884 like that late night diner thing where you're like, you probably should have gone home. 01:13:42.126 --> 01:13:44.568 Yeah. But instead you're gonna pile some eggs and bacon on, you know, to what 01:13:45.068 --> 01:13:47.068 you've been drinking. And just having like a thing happen like that is so much 01:13:47.568 --> 01:13:50.543 fun. It is. It's an important part of the night out. But, uh, but so 01:13:51.043 --> 01:13:54.629 Mike gets home and he, uh, puts Lorraine's phone number on the answering machine and 01:13:55.129 --> 01:13:57.917 then decides to he looks at the time, he goes to bed. When he wakes 01:13:58.417 --> 01:14:01.764 up in the morning, he looks and it's like currently like the 10th 01:14:02.264 --> 01:14:05.820 or 11th of December, and he pins her card on the calendar on the 12th, 01:14:05.996 --> 01:14:09.010 which is good, he's a little disciplined. Wait a little bit to call. I don't, 01:14:09.042 --> 01:14:11.751 you know, 3, 4, 5, 6 days, that's shitty, but like a couple of days, 01:14:11.799 --> 01:14:14.588 not calling the next day does make some sense to not seem too eager, 01:14:14.668 --> 01:14:18.179 I get it. So he does that, but of course once that happens, 01:14:18.195 --> 01:14:21.497 the phone rings and it's Michelle. The ex. 01:14:21.641 --> 01:14:24.751 So the second he made a plan to move 01:14:25.251 --> 01:14:28.696 on from his girlfriend, right? The second. As Rob said, he would. As Rob's 01:14:28.728 --> 01:14:32.154 been saying, right? Yeah. And Michelle calls and, 01:14:32.170 --> 01:14:35.371 um, yeah, this is a crazy conversation. 01:14:35.484 --> 01:14:39.213 And I don't like Michelle. No, we're not meant to like Michelle, 01:14:39.486 --> 01:14:43.100 but the way that she deals with it, even her voice is just 01:14:43.600 --> 01:14:46.057 like, oh, fuck you. And she's basically saying like, I heard you might be coming 01:14:46.557 --> 01:14:49.819 back. Because he, he had told Rob that he was planning on moving back 01:14:50.319 --> 01:14:53.197 to Queens and Rob sort of talked him out of it in a sense. 01:14:53.278 --> 01:14:55.315 So he may have also said something to like his mom. Like, we know a 01:14:55.815 --> 01:14:57.706 few days went by, we didn't see. So He's obviously told somebody back home that 01:14:58.206 --> 01:15:00.539 he's at least thinking about it. 'Cause that got back to Michelle and she's calling 01:15:01.039 --> 01:15:03.759 to say, "Oh my God, are you moving back to Queens? You know, that would 01:15:04.259 --> 01:15:05.868 be great. I'd love to see you." Like all this stuff, like we could get 01:15:06.368 --> 01:15:09.472 back together is kind of what she's saying. But he gets call waiting. 01:15:10.620 --> 01:15:13.337 And before he takes the call waiting, he even says to her like, "Ah, 01:15:13.854 --> 01:15:15.779 yeah, I don't really know if that's gonna happen. Can you hold on a second? 01:15:15.827 --> 01:15:17.713 I gotta see who this is," you know, kind of thing. "I'll get rid of 01:15:17.729 --> 01:15:20.905 him," he says. And it's Lorraine. And so it's the next thing she called. 01:15:20.954 --> 01:15:23.275 And she even says something about like, well, at first it's just, you know, 01:15:23.291 --> 01:15:25.081 "Hey, you know, can you talk?" And he's like, "Let me get rid of my 01:15:25.581 --> 01:15:28.378 other." call. Yeah, right, which is just like, whoa, really? You know, so he, 01:15:28.555 --> 01:15:30.515 you know, goes back and tells Michelle like, I can't talk. And she's like, 01:15:30.531 --> 01:15:33.391 I'm going out of town, you know, it'll be a week before we can talk 01:15:33.891 --> 01:15:35.255 again. He's like, okay, well, I'll call you when you get back. Okay, bye. 01:15:35.769 --> 01:15:39.079 And as he's clicking over, can't talk to him because she's going— she's got like 01:15:39.095 --> 01:15:42.084 a car, you don't have a calling card too. Yeah, right, the cab is coming 01:15:42.132 --> 01:15:45.300 in a minute. She said whatever. But like, you know, but he— as he clicks 01:15:45.348 --> 01:15:48.230 back over to talk to Lorraine, you hear her say like, I love— you know, 01:15:48.262 --> 01:15:51.660 as if she's gonna say I love you. It's such a great unexpected 01:15:51.708 --> 01:15:54.858 like hammer drop in this movie for the Mike character 01:15:55.358 --> 01:15:58.552 to ultimately like— yeah, she's mid I love you as 01:15:58.600 --> 01:16:02.423 he's clicking over to the top. Who— nothing is set in stone, but it's just 01:16:02.923 --> 01:16:06.503 someone who's a good prospect, someone who he had a good rapport with and stuff. 01:16:06.631 --> 01:16:09.057 And it's like— and he doesn't really want to leave LA. He does think he's 01:16:09.557 --> 01:16:12.269 going to build something there. So that's, you know, that was just desperation talking and 01:16:12.769 --> 01:16:16.188 depression talking. Uh, she mentions it's Sinatra's birthday, so there's this event, 01:16:16.204 --> 01:16:18.833 and I wonder if you wanted to go with me tomorrow, and all this stuff, 01:16:18.866 --> 01:16:22.053 which is great. And she says something like, you know, my friend said that I 01:16:22.553 --> 01:16:25.252 should wait 2 days, but I don't know about that. And, uh, you know, 01:16:25.301 --> 01:16:28.066 it's at this bar, and the bars always have no signs, you know. So she's 01:16:28.566 --> 01:16:32.190 like kind of repeating this stuff that he's already said, um, which is really 01:16:32.690 --> 01:16:36.494 nice. And we've established that she's like only a few months more recently transplanted 01:16:36.994 --> 01:16:40.462 to LA than he is. It sounds like Rob moved, you know, weeks, maybe, 01:16:40.542 --> 01:16:43.049 maybe a week or two before the movie opens. Rob moved to town. Yeah. 01:16:43.129 --> 01:16:45.304 But, you know, Lorraine's been over there. But yeah, it's very similar because it's clear 01:16:45.804 --> 01:16:49.071 they're in the same boat and, and navigating very similar situations. Like, we are led 01:16:49.571 --> 01:16:52.500 to believe there is a very good chance these two will at least be exploring 01:16:52.532 --> 01:16:54.855 a relationship with each other. You know, whether it lasts or not is something else, 01:16:55.159 --> 01:16:58.268 but that first spark, that initial thing, they have it, you know, and it feels 01:16:58.300 --> 01:17:01.777 really good for, for both of them. Um, and so we cut to 01:17:01.985 --> 01:17:04.373 back to the Hollywood Hills coffee shop. I think this is the fourth scene in 01:17:04.873 --> 01:17:08.875 the movie at the Hollywood Hills. Yeah. And it is a perfect mirror of the 01:17:09.356 --> 01:17:12.288 opening sequence with a bit of a reversal. We've got a character arc that has 01:17:12.320 --> 01:17:15.669 evolved. Our character Mike. But this time instead of Rob, it's Mike and Trent chatting. 01:17:15.717 --> 01:17:19.115 Because if you'll notice, not only did every little episode begin with Rob 01:17:19.615 --> 01:17:22.786 and Mike talking, they all ended with Trent and Mike talking, except for the second 01:17:23.286 --> 01:17:25.851 one, which was Mike and Nikki. But it was close. Trent was near the end 01:17:26.351 --> 01:17:29.174 there. But yeah, so they're chatting and Mike's basically telling him the story of what 01:17:29.674 --> 01:17:32.693 just happened. Michelle called and then Lorraine called. And then I took that call and 01:17:33.193 --> 01:17:35.453 he's like, oh my God, dude, you took the call from— not from your girlfriend, 01:17:35.469 --> 01:17:38.391 the new girl. He's like, yeah, what am I gonna do? What am I gonna 01:17:38.891 --> 01:17:40.569 do? That's what I'm gonna do. You know, kind of thing. At this point, 01:17:40.585 --> 01:17:43.779 Trent starts— he sees a woman like down several booths. 01:17:44.180 --> 01:17:47.823 Oh yeah, but real quick. Oh yeah, yeah. So Trent says— Trent's like, 01:17:48.433 --> 01:17:51.353 what'd she say when you called back? Oh, that's right. Mikey goes, I didn't. 01:17:51.418 --> 01:17:55.349 And Trent's like— he has this look that he's like visibly shook 01:17:55.430 --> 01:17:58.607 by, like, you learned the lesson that we've been trying 01:17:58.655 --> 01:18:02.282 to teach you, you know? And then Mike, very funnily, right before 01:18:02.330 --> 01:18:05.732 this next part, is just kind of like, yeah, you know, in the end I 01:18:05.765 --> 01:18:09.528 realized Guys, it's just as simple as— and then Trent's like, hold on, somebody's vibing. 01:18:09.770 --> 01:18:13.273 So he's about to do like, it turns out the meaning of the life was 01:18:13.451 --> 01:18:16.546 blank. He's gonna drop the knowledge bomb and Trent cuts him 01:18:16.642 --> 01:18:20.046 off because this woman down the booth is like, he thinks is like looking at 01:18:20.546 --> 01:18:23.515 her, at him and winking. And he starts playing, he puts a little napkin in 01:18:24.015 --> 01:18:25.478 front of his face, he's talking baby talk. And every time Mike tries to turn 01:18:25.978 --> 01:18:28.274 around, look, he goes, no, no, no, you're gonna ruin it. Oh, just stop, 01:18:28.290 --> 01:18:30.957 stop. This, she's putting out a weird vibe, but it's good, you know, it's a 01:18:30.973 --> 01:18:33.303 hot, it's like a sexy vibe thing. But I put out the playful vibe, 01:18:33.319 --> 01:18:35.682 baby, it's gonna be great, watch, it's Come over here. So she gets up, 01:18:35.778 --> 01:18:39.354 he goes, here she comes. And she's been flirting with the 01:18:39.499 --> 01:18:42.415 baby in the, you know, across from the table from her, 01:18:42.480 --> 01:18:46.673 picks up the baby to like walk out. And Trent looks so 01:18:46.689 --> 01:18:49.987 sheepish, so devastated. Oh my God. And then he goes, so what, 01:18:50.019 --> 01:18:53.402 so you did what, you call her? You didn't call her yet? And Mike 01:18:53.902 --> 01:18:57.125 is basking in that and he's like enjoying it so much. I don't understand that 01:18:57.174 --> 01:19:00.697 it was just like a loose baby. It wasn't in any kind of a carrier 01:19:01.197 --> 01:19:03.120 or stroller or something. I think it was in like a, like, like a high 01:19:03.620 --> 01:19:06.695 chair, booster seat that belongs to the diner, but That baby was really too small 01:19:06.759 --> 01:19:09.485 to be in one of those. It didn't quite work, but that's okay. We need 01:19:09.985 --> 01:19:12.579 it, we needed it to be realistic that Trent maybe thought she was looking. 01:19:12.659 --> 01:19:16.684 Yeah, no, it was a great gag, really funny gag. And to see 01:19:17.184 --> 01:19:20.644 Trent be humbled in the silliest possible way to end the movie, uh, 01:19:20.996 --> 01:19:24.716 and then that's it. That's the movie. And we hit to, uh, the opening 01:19:25.216 --> 01:19:28.211 of Beginning to See the Light by Bobby Darin, which is again one of my 01:19:28.711 --> 01:19:32.395 favorite songs to karaoke. So, um, and just another, you know, just perfect 01:19:32.895 --> 01:19:35.458 kind of bookends, starting with Dean Martin, ending with Bobby Darin. It's a fantastic book 01:19:35.680 --> 01:19:39.468 weekends sonically to this movie. And goddamn, man, that's Swingers. 01:19:39.581 --> 01:19:42.322 That is Swingers. All right, this was my pick. I'm going to, I'm going to 01:19:42.387 --> 01:19:44.949 go first with it. And I got to tell you, you know, whenever I watch 01:19:44.981 --> 01:19:47.659 these, I'm usually sitting next to my wife when I watch these for taking notes 01:19:48.159 --> 01:19:50.288 and stuff. And, you know, she'll usually look over and go, so did you like 01:19:50.788 --> 01:19:52.707 it? You know, because it's either something I'm seeing new, something you brought to us, 01:19:52.739 --> 01:19:55.815 and it's new for me, or it's something I haven't watched in 01:19:56.315 --> 01:19:59.103 a long time. Generally speaking, you know, I don't, you know, and so, you know, 01:19:59.168 --> 01:20:02.197 she's always curious, like, how'd you like that? And I like this one the other 01:20:02.697 --> 01:20:05.074 night when I watched it, I turned to her I go, that was an absolute 01:20:05.574 --> 01:20:08.840 delight. This was so much fun. It— there's— 01:20:08.904 --> 01:20:12.669 there— this movie, look, maybe to some extent you kind of had 01:20:13.169 --> 01:20:14.688 to be there. Not that I've ever lived in LA. I didn't go to school 01:20:15.188 --> 01:20:18.277 in LA, but like in a sense, right? You know, dating in the kind of 01:20:18.293 --> 01:20:21.818 mid-'90s to like mid-2000s, pre-iPhone maybe kind of era, 01:20:22.283 --> 01:20:25.103 uh, you know, is similar. And there's a lot of stuff in this movie that 01:20:25.603 --> 01:20:28.628 I feel like is properly nostalgic even if you weren't literally there. So maybe 01:20:29.128 --> 01:20:32.842 there is an element where you need some of that to really appreciate 01:20:33.342 --> 01:20:36.447 this, but like, this is a movie about good friends that generally are giving each 01:20:36.623 --> 01:20:39.972 other good supportive advice. There's a lot of, no, there's a lot of vernacular that's 01:20:40.004 --> 01:20:43.337 a little misogynistic in its, in its nature, but the characters that espouse those 01:20:43.529 --> 01:20:47.054 ideals are shown to be fools in many ways. So this is not the, 01:20:47.118 --> 01:20:50.227 the movie arguing that Sue and Trent have it figured out. It is quite the 01:20:50.243 --> 01:20:53.623 opposite. They are, they are pointing out how Mike has got it figured out by 01:20:54.123 --> 01:20:56.876 the end and Trent and Sue still definitely do not, right? And so there's an 01:20:56.972 --> 01:21:00.080 element where as long as your characters that are espousing kind of stupid things are 01:21:00.113 --> 01:21:02.725 shown to be kind of stupid, you can't hold it against the movie, right? 01:21:02.773 --> 01:21:06.170 There's the nature of the characters. Um, I, I had so much fun watching this. 01:21:06.298 --> 01:21:09.727 It was a great nostalgia blast for me. The soundtrack is 01:21:10.048 --> 01:21:13.317 unimpeachable. I think every single track earns its place. 01:21:13.413 --> 01:21:17.019 There is no dud on the soundtrack. Um, it's a tight 01:21:17.519 --> 01:21:20.464 95 minutes. It goes real quick, uh, in the best possible way. Like I said, 01:21:20.608 --> 01:21:23.557 the episodic breakdown is kind of a fun thing once you notice it to really 01:21:23.909 --> 01:21:27.355 kind of understand how the character moves through arc. Um, maybe it's 01:21:27.855 --> 01:21:29.583 a little bit of inflation, but I don't care. I'm a 5 out of 5 01:21:30.083 --> 01:21:33.383 on Swingers. I had an absolute blast watching it. This is everything I hoped it 01:21:33.883 --> 01:21:36.733 would still be for me, uh, watching it again. And I will, I will start— 01:21:37.233 --> 01:21:39.041 this is going to end up being a twice a year regular watch for me, 01:21:39.057 --> 01:21:42.745 I think, moving forward. It is so much fun. It is. I mean, and I 01:21:43.245 --> 01:21:46.768 agree with everything you said. The music, I appreciated so much more this time 01:21:47.268 --> 01:21:51.289 around. And like this, the spot in the songs where they all drop and everything, 01:21:51.401 --> 01:21:55.474 it's just just like, I— it is fun. The characters 01:21:55.974 --> 01:21:58.584 are fun. You want to hang out with them more. If, if you found out 01:21:58.616 --> 01:22:02.079 that there was like, you know, 15 minutes of deleted scenes, it's like, shit, 01:22:02.144 --> 01:22:04.949 dude, I want to see that. What are they talking about? Like, is there more 01:22:05.449 --> 01:22:08.717 Charles? Is there more Rob? You know, and, uh, the types of friends— like, 01:22:08.733 --> 01:22:12.213 it's such a perfect example of how your friends 01:22:12.229 --> 01:22:15.468 can help get you through a tough situation. You have these different types 01:22:15.968 --> 01:22:18.963 of friends. You got T, and he's like the newer friend, but he's your biggest 01:22:19.463 --> 01:22:21.802 cheerleader, and he's trying to pump you up. And you have Sue, who's a new 01:22:21.866 --> 01:22:25.381 friend who has a clear perspective on you because he hasn't been, you know, 01:22:25.397 --> 01:22:28.013 he hasn't known you for 15 years. Then you got Rob, the guy who knows 01:22:28.045 --> 01:22:31.816 your old life and knows what you like. And then honestly, Charles, the guy 01:22:31.880 --> 01:22:35.266 who you know from a completely different place, is an important friend to have 01:22:35.766 --> 01:22:38.765 who can talk. I bet he doesn't talk to Charles about his fucking ex-girlfriend, 01:22:38.781 --> 01:22:42.311 you know? Like, that's an important guy to have. Yeah, yeah. Again, I love this 01:22:42.811 --> 01:22:46.002 movie. I love Favreau's writing. I love, like, Chef is one of my favorite movies 01:22:46.082 --> 01:22:49.195 of all time. I think he just makes really, really beautiful stuff. 01:22:49.548 --> 01:22:52.884 And on this budget, mm-hmm, I gotta give this thing a 5 too. 01:22:52.965 --> 01:22:56.349 Yeah, yeah, 10 out of 10. I just love this movie. It's not 01:22:56.849 --> 01:23:00.616 gonna hit for absolutely everybody. Don't think of it as a— this 01:23:01.116 --> 01:23:04.707 is relatable to mid-20s guys going out and trying to fuck, because it's 01:23:05.207 --> 01:23:08.236 not really about that so much as it is trying to overcome something 01:23:08.316 --> 01:23:11.268 and how your friends help you through it. So it depends on the lens you 01:23:11.284 --> 01:23:14.444 look at through, but just sit back and enjoy. It's visually nice and it's audible 01:23:14.572 --> 01:23:17.536 just absolutely beautiful. It really is. And I think, you know, yeah, 01:23:17.552 --> 01:23:19.186 it's not going to be for everybody. I totally agree with you. But I got 01:23:19.686 --> 01:23:21.622 to be honest with you out there listening. If you are like, I think a 01:23:22.122 --> 01:23:24.313 lot of our audience is in basically the same boat Nic and I are in 01:23:24.506 --> 01:23:27.854 mid-40s, your dads, you were kind of, you know, you lived this life, if not 01:23:28.354 --> 01:23:31.411 in the mid-'90s, certainly by the early 2000s. It's going to hit. 01:23:31.555 --> 01:23:34.407 It's going to hit for you like it just is totally a lot of fun. 01:23:34.455 --> 01:23:38.573 So that was Swingers. That was 1996 01:23:39.073 --> 01:23:43.428 for 2 Dads 2 Decades. Yeah. Nic, hey, I'm going 01:23:43.928 --> 01:23:47.487 To next? Okay, so for 1997, uh, we're actually staying in the 01:23:47.567 --> 01:23:51.129 LA area. So geographically we're going to be similar to 01:23:51.629 --> 01:23:54.947 Swingers. Uh, thematically we're going to be a lot different. Uh, Swingers, you know, 01:23:55.365 --> 01:23:59.183 very kind of like lighthearted and, you know, it goes fast and everything. 01:23:59.279 --> 01:24:02.841 And this one, uh, gets a lot more in-depth and takes us to a world 01:24:03.341 --> 01:24:06.178 that, you know, a lot of people don't know about the, the ins and outs 01:24:06.678 --> 01:24:10.735 of. Not that it teaches, makes you an expert, but it just takes 01:24:11.235 --> 01:24:11.907 takes you into a different world that we're not used to and introduces us to 01:24:12.407 --> 01:24:15.598 a crazy amount of characters. Um, we're gonna be hanging out in LA, 01:24:15.823 --> 01:24:19.434 and we're gonna be hanging out with young Eddie Adams, Mark Wahlberg, 01:24:19.899 --> 01:24:23.687 as he finds a new job. He's a dishwasher, but then he finds 01:24:24.187 --> 01:24:27.475 a new job, and it's about him and his new job and all his new 01:24:27.603 --> 01:24:31.487 co-workers in 1997. P.T. Anderson's first 01:24:31.776 --> 01:24:34.408 big smash movie, an amazing movie. 01:24:34.810 --> 01:24:37.234 Boogie Nights. Wonderful. I have never seen Boogie Nights. Oh, 01:24:37.314 --> 01:24:40.718 funny enough, I have seen Hard Eight, which is the movie P.T. 01:24:40.783 --> 01:24:44.460 Anderson did before Boogie Nights. That was a flop for a 01:24:44.476 --> 01:24:47.382 lot of reasons that weren't his fault. But like, yeah, have never seen Boogie Nights. 01:24:47.510 --> 01:24:50.256 Very excited to watch it. It's just one that passed me somehow. 01:24:50.481 --> 01:24:53.564 Yeah, I've never got around to it. Okay, well, good. I'm excited about 01:24:53.612 --> 01:24:57.241 this. All right, that's a wrap. So if you like what you hear, please consider 01:24:57.741 --> 01:25:00.163 heading over to Apple or Spotify and leaving us a 5-star review. It helps new 01:25:00.195 --> 01:25:04.160 folks find the show. Be sure to check out our website at 2dads1movie.com. That's the 01:25:04.660 --> 01:25:07.018 number 2 and the number 1. There you can explore the movies we've covered, 01:25:07.034 --> 01:25:10.613 sign up for our newsletter, The Rewind, and even get sneak previews of upcoming episodes. 01:25:11.047 --> 01:25:14.466 Once again, this has been Swingers, another episode of 2 Dads 1 Movie. 01:25:14.675 --> 01:25:17.324 I'm Steve. And I'm Nic. Thank you so much for listening, and we'll catch you 01:25:17.824 --> 01:25:18.239 next week. Thanks,