WEBVTT 00:00.454 --> 00:04.706 You have to leave now and 00:05.206 --> 00:05.769 never come back here. 00:10.717 --> 00:13.760 Have you ever heard of insect politics? 00:16.695 --> 00:17.131 Neither have I. 00:22.008 --> 00:24.850 Insects don't have politics. 00:27.280 --> 00:28.848 They're very brutal. 00:31.150 --> 00:33.885 No compassion, no compromise. 00:36.170 --> 00:37.618 We can't trust the insect. 00:41.227 --> 00:45.473 I'd like to become the first insect 00:45.973 --> 00:49.556 politician. You see, I'd like to, 00:50.302 --> 00:53.809 uh, But— oh, I'm afraid, 00:53.891 --> 00:57.332 um— I don't know what you're trying 00:57.832 --> 01:03.259 to say. I'm saying— 01:06.900 --> 01:10.906 I'm saying I'm an insect 01:13.098 --> 01:16.034 who dreamt he was a man and loved it. 01:17.110 --> 01:20.342 But now the dream is over. And the insect 01:20.842 --> 01:23.465 is awake. No, Seth. 01:24.873 --> 01:26.782 I'm saying, 01:27.704 --> 01:31.685 I'll hurt you this 01:31.830 --> 01:32.089 day. 01:37.698 --> 01:41.462 It's 2 Dads 1 Movie Shocktoberfest, 01:41.655 --> 01:45.001 a celebration of the spookiest movies of the '80s and 01:45.501 --> 01:50.329 '90s. Now here are your hosts, Scary Steve 01:53.730 --> 01:56.950 Hello, everybody. Welcome to another episode of 2 Dads, 1 Movie. I'm Steve. 01:57.063 --> 02:00.422 And I'm Nic. And today we are continuing our Shocktoberfest 02:00.922 --> 02:04.543 theme with the 1986 David Cronenberg body horror 02:04.688 --> 02:08.471 classic, The Fly. And Nic, you brought The Fly to the 02:08.632 --> 02:10.549 podcast. Why don't you talk to us a little bit about your history with the 02:11.049 --> 02:14.020 movie and why we watched it this week? Yeah. So this is one I've, 02:14.101 --> 02:17.204 you know, I've known about for a long time. And I had in my memory, 02:17.701 --> 02:21.007 uh, from when I was pretty young catching it like on a TV 02:21.507 --> 02:24.666 version of it. Okay. Because there's certain parts of this— because when I watched this, 02:24.715 --> 02:27.684 I was like, I for sure haven't seen this before, um, 02:27.828 --> 02:31.006 in its entirety. But a couple parts where I was like, I fucking 02:31.038 --> 02:33.542 remember, I've never forgotten that since I was a kid. 02:34.232 --> 02:37.442 Um, and, uh, and since my picks for horror 02:37.942 --> 02:41.149 are typically like kind of not horror traditionally, I thought it'd be cool to have 02:41.649 --> 02:45.206 something that's more of a monster movie, like a real Frankenstein-type story. 02:45.863 --> 02:49.646 And, uh, and then, you know, Jeff Goldblum, who we like. And, uh, 02:49.870 --> 02:53.621 when we first started the pod, we were talking about, uh, Jurassic Park as 02:53.718 --> 02:57.404 like the movie that's too popular for us to do and stuff. So we'll 02:57.904 --> 03:00.306 get him in in some way. We've shifted gears since then and done a couple 03:00.806 --> 03:03.576 pretty popular movies, to be honest. Uh, so, so I'm good. It's good to have 03:04.076 --> 03:07.439 him. But also, um, I had a few film classes 03:07.939 --> 03:10.245 in college, and one of them— I don't know if the whole class was on 03:10.745 --> 03:13.034 Cronenberg or if we just watched a couple of the movies, not this, but we 03:13.534 --> 03:16.128 watched a couple of his other films. And he's just had a lot of very 03:16.257 --> 03:20.089 impactful, uh, horror films and definitely a 03:20.105 --> 03:23.457 body horror guy, definitely a practical effects, like ultra 03:23.957 --> 03:27.177 gruesome. Like think of the most extreme parts of The Thing. Yep. 03:27.305 --> 03:30.737 And this is what, what Cronenberg brings to the table. So I thought this 03:31.237 --> 03:34.441 would be some real spooky shit to watch for, uh, Shocktoberfest. What about you, 03:34.457 --> 03:37.648 Steve? You seen it? I had never seen The Fly before, as I mentioned at 03:38.148 --> 03:40.583 the end of last week's episode. As although I am a huge horror fan, 03:40.952 --> 03:44.446 My sort of, you know, history and interest in 03:44.542 --> 03:48.694 horror runs, I love hauntings and possessions, anything haunted 03:48.726 --> 03:51.692 house, demonic possession, that ballpark of things I love. 03:52.237 --> 03:55.603 Any cult activity, folk horror, anything like, you know, 03:56.116 --> 03:58.713 The Ritual or anything like that, the kind of folk horror thing. And then slashers, 03:58.745 --> 04:02.063 like I love slasher movies. So body horror is not really my jam. 04:02.176 --> 04:05.718 Yeah. When I like body horror, it's because there's enough other things 04:05.734 --> 04:08.027 going on in the movie, like The Thing where Carpenter has that. Yeah, the offset. 04:08.283 --> 04:11.954 But there's enough other stuff going on. There's good like man versus man psychological 04:12.034 --> 04:14.972 things going on too. This is like straight body horror. I'll give it to you. 04:15.020 --> 04:18.665 Like, this is, I think, maybe potentially, Nic, the first time you've brought a Shocktoberfest 04:18.697 --> 04:22.278 movie that is a like really traditional horror classic. Like, for sure, 04:22.326 --> 04:25.458 this is a well-regarded movie in horror circles. Um, 04:25.763 --> 04:29.761 and, and unlike the last 2 where we both brought sort of spooky 04:30.034 --> 04:33.390 movies, right? Yeah. A sort of horror comedy-ish in The Burbs, and then the more 04:33.407 --> 04:36.602 crime thriller with like horror elements last week in Se7en. Uh, this is 04:37.102 --> 04:39.766 like a straight horror. So kudos for bringing that. But yeah, this was new to 04:40.266 --> 04:43.484 me. I'll be totally honest, I've, I'd been avoiding watching it, just knowing 04:43.516 --> 04:46.545 what I know about myself and my sort of lack of interest in body horror. 04:46.625 --> 04:49.381 But, you know, hey, it came up on the schedule, let's check it out. 04:49.846 --> 04:53.467 Dove into it this week and, um, can't wait to get into it. Yeah, 04:53.531 --> 04:56.961 dude. And I will say, I mean, like, throughout Cronenberg's 04:57.461 --> 05:01.223 movies, there are definitely a lot of parts that just make you reflexively 05:01.303 --> 05:04.428 look away. Yeah, that's a thing that he does. Whatever the opposite of a 05:04.928 --> 05:08.452 popcorn movie is, yeah, this is like a eat 2 hours beforehand 05:08.597 --> 05:11.790 and then not until 2 hours after kind of movie. Have like a Dixie cup 05:11.806 --> 05:14.806 worth of water nearby to just keep your lips and mouth slightly wet, 05:14.934 --> 05:18.063 but don't actually swallow anything. Right, right. Yeah, exactly, 'cause it'll all come up. 05:18.529 --> 05:21.754 Hell yeah. All right, well, you got some facts for us? I got some facts 05:22.254 --> 05:25.717 for us. The movie The Fly was released on August 15th, 1986 with 05:26.728 --> 05:30.450 an R rating because NC-17 didn't exist yet, and a running time of 96 05:30.482 --> 05:34.173 minutes, directed by David Cronenberg and written by Charles Edward Pogue 05:34.189 --> 05:37.366 and David Cronenberg. It stars Jeff Goldblum, Geena Davis, 05:37.478 --> 05:41.586 and John Getz. And the entire listed cast for this film is 12 05:42.086 --> 05:44.971 people. That's it. And one of them is Cronenberg. One of the smaller casts we've 05:45.004 --> 05:49.127 had. Small list, has to be, I feel like. 'Cause there's like one scene 05:49.191 --> 05:52.866 where probably half those people come into. Kind of. And there's sort of like, 05:52.882 --> 05:56.460 we'll open on a crowd scene or whatever, but really like speaking roles, 05:56.636 --> 05:59.910 there's 12. Scores, Rotten Tomatoes gave 05:59.942 --> 06:04.659 this 82%. So 82% of critics gave a positive feel on this one. A 7.6 06:05.159 --> 06:08.284 on IMDb, nice solid high score there. We get a thumbs up from Gene Siskel. 06:08.509 --> 06:11.939 Roger Ebert didn't do this one. Not sure exactly what the story there is, 06:11.987 --> 06:14.071 if he just took a week off or something. I don't know. But we got— 06:14.571 --> 06:16.636 I got no thumbs up or down from Ebert, but I got a thumbs up 06:17.136 --> 06:19.040 from Gene Siskel on this one. Awards. 06:20.066 --> 06:23.368 This is an Oscar-winning film. This is crazy. We haven't had an Oscar winner 06:23.577 --> 06:26.350 in a while, I feel like. In a while. It's surprising that it's this. 06:26.462 --> 06:29.059 Well, and last Shocktoberfest we had one as well, 'cause we did The Silence of 06:29.107 --> 06:31.400 the Lambs. That's right, yeah. Took home several Oscars. But yes, 06:31.496 --> 06:34.830 1987 Academy Award for Best Makeup. This was 06:35.330 --> 06:38.822 the winner. It also had a few wins at the 1987 Saturn Awards. 06:39.280 --> 06:43.190 Best Actor for Jeff Goldblum, and Best Makeup. It was also nominated 06:43.690 --> 06:47.490 but did not win Best Actress, Geena Davis, Best Director, and Best Music for Howard 06:47.990 --> 06:51.670 Shore. This is the 2nd week in a row where we have Howard Shore in 06:52.170 --> 06:55.760 a Saturn-nominated but not winning movie as the composer. Oh, yeah. Which is funny. 06:56.010 --> 06:59.730 We're gonna have to do Shore-tember next year or something. Something, yeah. We actually should 07:00.230 --> 07:03.810 do a composer-focused October. That would be good. That'd be great. At the 1988 BAFTA 07:04.310 --> 07:07.770 Awards, or the British Oscars, 2 nominations, no wins. The nominations were for Best Makeup 07:08.270 --> 07:11.440 and Best Special Effects. Totally makes sense that makeup and special effects are kind of 07:11.940 --> 07:15.101 where this movie got its plaudits. That makes a lot of sense. On a $15 07:15.133 --> 07:18.906 million budget, it pulled in $60.6 million at the box 07:19.406 --> 07:21.973 office. That is a lot of money in 1986 for such a hard R. 07:22.021 --> 07:24.655 For a movie that's this R. And this is not a date movie in any 07:25.155 --> 07:27.914 way. No way. I mean, yeah. Yeah. And it kind of came out in the 07:27.930 --> 07:31.720 summer blockbuster time, middle of August, it's still summertime. 07:32.233 --> 07:36.213 But yeah, pulling in 4 times its budget. as this weird and 07:36.342 --> 07:40.319 sort of, I'd assume, divisive movie, it's an accomplishment for 07:40.819 --> 07:43.911 sure. Yeah, for sure. Okay, how does The Fly kick off? Nic, get us started. 07:43.959 --> 07:47.230 All right, so The Fly, we've got our credits 07:47.730 --> 07:50.822 and stuff, but when the movie starts, we're kind of in the middle of a 07:51.322 --> 07:54.655 conversation. It doesn't zoom in to establish the characters. 07:54.847 --> 07:58.872 It is the Jeff Goldblum character, Seth Brundle, talking to 07:59.000 --> 08:02.530 Victoria, played by— Veronica. Veronica. Ronnie, 08:02.626 --> 08:05.324 Veronica, played by Geena Davis. And, 08:05.741 --> 08:09.064 and young Goldblum looks— he's looking like Mike Damone. 08:09.113 --> 08:11.842 He looks good as hell in this. He looks a lot like Adam Friedland, 08:11.858 --> 08:15.117 if you know who Adam Friedland is, actually. But he's 08:15.149 --> 08:19.613 from The Adam Friedland Show. Ah, apropos. But he's, 08:19.741 --> 08:23.145 he's being very flirty with her. You can tell immediately that Seth is, 08:23.402 --> 08:26.805 you know, he's very cocky about what he does. He's a scientist. 08:26.885 --> 08:30.860 It's this like art and science, art meets science kind of like 08:31.360 --> 08:33.440 gala thing? I couldn't tell. What it looked like to me is that it was 08:33.940 --> 08:37.340 a science company. They mentioned Bartok a few times. So it was like 08:37.840 --> 08:41.340 a pharmaceutical company, scientific research company, whatever, throwing a gala at 08:41.840 --> 08:43.940 an art museum is kind of what I think it's supposed to be. And then 08:44.440 --> 08:47.280 she gets sent there by the editor of Particle Magazine, 08:47.780 --> 08:50.960 which is supposed to be like Omni or whatever science magazine, the kind of thing 08:51.460 --> 08:54.280 that just does not exist anymore. And is sent there to go find a good 08:54.780 --> 08:56.660 story, talk to these scientists and see who's got a good story sort of thing. 08:57.160 --> 08:59.743 And so she's talking to Seth. Yeah, and Seth is saying, you know, like, 08:59.775 --> 09:02.986 I'm working on something that's gonna change the world. Change the world. Yeah, like, 09:03.195 --> 09:07.546 it's— this is big, right? And he pretty easily convinces 09:07.610 --> 09:10.934 her to at least, hey, come see what I'm working on. Come see my lab. 09:10.982 --> 09:14.852 Yeah, come check it out. And we get to Seth's lab, and it's this— it's 09:15.352 --> 09:18.272 this big open room, you know, kind of like a warehouse type situation. 09:18.770 --> 09:21.885 Uh, there's an upright piano in the middle of it, and then there's 09:21.981 --> 09:24.570 these 2 pods that could Kind of look like, 09:24.930 --> 09:28.810 almost like bug zapper things or beehives, 09:29.310 --> 09:32.750 these metallic kind of hive-looking things, like cone, like pear-shaped. How would 09:33.250 --> 09:36.590 you describe these to me? They look exactly like the pods 09:37.090 --> 09:39.990 that the astronauts would use to return to Earth from the space shuttle. 09:40.490 --> 09:43.910 Yeah, that shape. They would have the— there's like the reentry 09:44.410 --> 09:45.850 pod, and then it would have like a parachute, and it would land in like 09:46.350 --> 09:48.510 the water. It looked kind of like that, except these are like black or dark 09:49.010 --> 09:51.490 gray, and those ones were always white. Yeah, but it kind of looked like that 09:51.990 --> 09:53.410 to me. And he's got, you know, just a ton of books and everywhere, 09:55.150 --> 09:58.506 Everything. There's this computer console 09:58.699 --> 10:02.329 in the middle, this like the computer station, which is very Halloween 10:02.829 --> 10:06.408 3 Season of the Witch coded. Absolutely. Very similar. I abbreviated 10:06.908 --> 10:10.423 in my notes as H3SOTW, just so you know. 10:10.921 --> 10:14.230 Okay. As before, I always appreciate 10:14.730 --> 10:16.960 that you cannot say the words Halloween 3 without saying the words Season of the 10:17.460 --> 10:20.060 Witch. Well, it's an important— I love it. There's a lot of witches in that 10:20.560 --> 10:23.834 movie who need respect. So, so Veronica is kind 10:24.334 --> 10:27.703 of like Oh, cool, like, what do your phone booths do? Like, she didn't really 10:27.768 --> 10:31.075 give a shit, right? Oh, yeah. And, uh, and he's like, well, let me show 10:31.139 --> 10:33.900 you how it works. Right. And he asks her for something specific from her. 10:33.965 --> 10:36.501 And this is like smart because it's sort of like, if I did this with 10:36.517 --> 10:39.519 something lying around the house, you might say that it was something I planned ahead 10:40.019 --> 10:42.361 of time, whatever. So give me something of yours, something that I couldn't have, 10:42.538 --> 10:45.090 you know, expected to be here, whatever. She takes off one of her stockings, 10:45.668 --> 10:48.028 uh, and gives it to him, and he puts it in one of the pods 10:48.478 --> 10:52.251 and like closes the door, types some stuff into his like crazy clackety keyboard 10:52.751 --> 10:56.008 computer, and You know, basically the light sort of shines 10:56.024 --> 10:59.461 within one of these pods, the pod with the stockings in it. The stocking disappears, 10:59.574 --> 11:01.967 and then there's light in the other one. And she goes, okay, so where'd it 11:02.467 --> 11:05.275 go? And he's like, over here. And she, you know, he shows her like, 11:05.339 --> 11:08.776 it's here and it's still intact. Like, it's, it's the exact same thing. 11:09.354 --> 11:12.342 Um, and so she's kind of like getting excited. She gets out her tape recorder 11:12.842 --> 11:14.494 and it's like, okay, talk to me. And he goes, whoa, whoa, whoa, I thought 11:14.994 --> 11:18.605 this was off the record. It's like, bruh, you invited a journalist to your lab 11:19.105 --> 11:21.350 and you thought it was off the record? Like— Seriously. It is, it is the 11:21.415 --> 11:24.832 classic, like, book genius guy who has 11:24.960 --> 11:28.634 no idea how, like, certain interpersonal relationships work, right? Nice try. 11:28.939 --> 11:32.340 Um, and, uh, he's got, 11:32.388 --> 11:35.693 like, a voice password on his computer. Oh, yeah, yeah. I, I like throughout the 11:36.193 --> 11:39.767 movie the way that the computer sequences look, the way that they 11:39.848 --> 11:43.345 animate it, because it's not done on a computer. No, not at all. It's animated, 11:43.393 --> 11:46.489 but they didn't try to make it look too digitalized. 11:46.750 --> 11:49.750 Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I don't know, it's an interesting look because it's like 11:50.250 --> 11:52.930 no computer in that day looked that way. It doesn't. Yeah, it doesn't. Like if 11:53.430 --> 11:56.910 you watch WarGames with Matthew Broderick and the way the Whopper computer 11:57.410 --> 12:01.490 looks, the screen, it looks very much like those old monochrome monitors 12:01.990 --> 12:04.380 looked back then. This one looks different. It does look a little Star Trek-ier. 12:04.470 --> 12:07.290 Yeah, it looks a little more advanced. Especially when it gets in like showing the 12:07.790 --> 12:10.170 diagrams and stuff. Yeah. And I feel like that the point there was that this 12:10.670 --> 12:14.190 was meant to be almost alien technology, like so 12:14.690 --> 12:18.360 advanced that even the modern audiences at the time wouldn't think that it looked 12:18.860 --> 12:22.140 like anything that they'd seen. You know, I feel like versus WarGames, which was trying 12:22.640 --> 12:25.300 desperately to make it look like, oh no, this is really what like is at 12:25.800 --> 12:28.760 your library. Yeah. Same computers are running the fucking nuclear weapons, you know, kind of 12:29.260 --> 12:32.280 thing. So yeah, so really trying to look advanced. It's got, you know, there's a 12:32.780 --> 12:36.180 lot of this movie that vibes very much like The Thing and John Carpenter. 12:36.680 --> 12:39.960 And I feel like that, you know, the— I feel a vibe here between this 12:40.460 --> 12:43.260 computer and the chess computer that Kurt Russell like demolished at the beginning of The 12:43.760 --> 12:45.980 Thing. There's just something about it that fits like it's, oh, this is clearly the 12:46.480 --> 12:49.130 same time period and the same, kind of vibe we're going for, you know? 12:49.200 --> 12:52.460 Definitely. So Veronica, 12:52.960 --> 12:56.420 she has a tape recording of Seth, and now she's playing it for her 12:56.920 --> 13:00.300 boss. Well, so this is an interesting— The editor of the— He's the editor of 13:00.800 --> 13:04.460 Particle Magazine and her ex-boyfriend. And so she does not work 13:04.960 --> 13:08.960 for him, but she's a freelance journalist who gets assignments 13:09.460 --> 13:11.880 like other freelance journalists do, or did at the time. I don't even know if 13:12.380 --> 13:14.420 this really works this way anymore. But like, so the idea is that, 'cause she 13:14.920 --> 13:16.580 says at one point, well, I'll take it to Omni or something, whatever. And he's 13:17.080 --> 13:19.975 like, oh, whatever. 'Cause he says Brundle's a con man. Like he's like this. 13:20.055 --> 13:23.169 This sounds like bullshit. Yeah, he's like I. I'm the 13:23.669 --> 13:27.134 editor of the science magazine. I hear shit like this all the fucking time. 13:27.263 --> 13:31.260 Yeah, you got taken. Sorry. And what this guy's name is like Stathis 13:31.276 --> 13:34.711 or it's the dumbest fucking name ever. Okay. Yeah, Stathis is his 13:34.743 --> 13:38.403 first name. Once again, hey, and to all the Stathises listening, 13:38.516 --> 13:42.497 the Stathi, all due respect to you and your parents' choice in naming 13:42.529 --> 13:45.868 you, it's probably related to a long-lost relative that you loved very much. 13:46.045 --> 13:49.187 But If you're writing a script, you have to have a name that people can 13:49.251 --> 13:52.569 work with. It's the Rourke syndrome from River Wild. So we 13:53.069 --> 13:55.519 were talking last week about Seven, and I made a point to point out character 13:56.019 --> 13:59.703 names and William Somerset and David Mills being such great character names for that. 14:00.087 --> 14:04.063 And I think both Seth Brundle and Stathis whatever, and it's like Stathis 14:04.095 --> 14:07.301 Bream or something weird. It's like they sound so bizarre. They don't sound 14:07.801 --> 14:10.219 like real people at all. And maybe that's the point. Like, I will give it 14:10.427 --> 14:14.194 to Cronenberg and Witkog, the writers. Yeah, maybe they're very specifically 14:14.274 --> 14:17.705 giving us these alien names to go with this feel, but it still stands out. 14:17.785 --> 14:20.975 And I didn't— Status is very weird. I don't like it. I don't like saying 14:20.991 --> 14:24.742 it. I'm just gonna say editor guy. The Seth 14:24.774 --> 14:28.429 Brundle thing, actually, I read that the— was 14:28.461 --> 14:31.780 it Cronenberg is a big fan of like car 14:31.972 --> 14:35.034 racing or something like that? And there was a race, a driver with the 14:35.534 --> 14:38.160 last name Brundle that Seth Brundle was named after. 14:39.523 --> 14:43.418 But yeah, it seems like that's the name of like a dipshit, 14:44.156 --> 14:47.330 you know? Like, yeah, it's like a McCoyle 14:47.538 --> 14:51.270 type. Oh, the Brundles. Like That's not a smart guy name. No, I agree. 14:51.770 --> 14:54.770 That's— it's, it's the name of a moron. Yeah. And, and, and he's clearly not— 14:55.270 --> 14:57.730 the character's clearly not a moron. Right. So like, you know, but it's a weird 14:58.230 --> 15:01.430 choice, I feel like. Um, I think they also were very specifically looking for something 15:01.930 --> 15:04.410 that sounded like it could prefix the word fly. Yeah. So that we could have 15:04.910 --> 15:07.890 Brundlefly later. Because Brundlefly works. I like that. Brundlefly works a hell of a lot 15:08.390 --> 15:12.090 better than Seth Brundle does. Uh, so, uh, so he 15:12.590 --> 15:16.570 says, uh, Seth wants to take— he wants to take, uh, Veronica out 15:17.070 --> 15:19.290 to lunch, right? He's like— she's talking about magic. He's like, I got a magic 15:19.790 --> 15:23.353 word for you: cheeseburger. You know, he takes her, he takes her out 15:23.853 --> 15:27.127 to lunch and he's telling her like, I can only teleport inanimate objects. 15:27.223 --> 15:30.900 This thing works and it works every time. I can only teleport inanimate 15:31.400 --> 15:35.203 objects and not living things. And she goes, well, what happens when you teleport 15:35.235 --> 15:38.671 living things? He's like, I'm not gonna tell you right now, we're eating. 15:38.864 --> 15:42.043 Not while we're eating. Which is funny, like he's so repulsed by it. And the 15:42.140 --> 15:45.431 way when they're sitting there talking, and this is, this is, uh, a combination 15:45.931 --> 15:49.286 of things, and I feel like I can't tell how much of this is Goldblum 15:49.383 --> 15:52.242 and how much of this is direction from Cronenberg because it fits the character too 15:52.338 --> 15:55.872 well to be accidental. But the way Goldblum's eyes kind 15:56.372 --> 15:59.744 of dart around as he's talking, it's the thing is that Goldblum has done that 16:00.244 --> 16:03.503 before and will do it in other movies. So it's not like wholly unique to 16:03.519 --> 16:07.342 this story, but it is such wonderful foreshadowing 16:07.792 --> 16:10.844 in so many ways to what happens to him later. Yeah. 16:10.908 --> 16:14.250 And the way his mannerisms shift over time, there is already this hint of 16:14.750 --> 16:18.250 You know, an almost kind of ADHD-like inability to focus, and like you know which 16:18.750 --> 16:22.310 would fit the brilliant cast character, right? Yeah, like exactly. Goldblum had been 16:22.810 --> 16:25.750 in stuff before this, but I don't think he was the star. Was he? 16:26.250 --> 16:28.870 This is before or after Earth Girls Are Easy? This is before. Before that. 16:29.370 --> 16:31.670 Okay. All right. So he wasn't like that. He was in the big chill. 16:32.170 --> 16:35.350 Like he was in a lot of ensembles that that were important, but but he 16:35.850 --> 16:38.770 wasn't like yes center. So whoever's decision it was to be like, hey, we gotta 16:39.270 --> 16:42.230 find a kind of a twitchy guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. To cast this. Like it 16:42.730 --> 16:46.183 works very well. Yep. And, and what Seth is telling Veronica is like, 16:46.472 --> 16:50.400 hey, don't write this piddly little article. Like, fuck Particle 16:50.900 --> 16:54.343 Magazine. Yep. Follow me around. I'll let you in the lab. You'll get to see 16:54.843 --> 16:58.736 everything happen. You can document it. Write a book. Yep. But don't— you can't release 16:59.236 --> 17:02.455 anything until I've unveiled this, like, technology. Or at least until— I think it's like, 17:02.503 --> 17:05.084 at least I perfected it. Like, like, once it works the way it needs to 17:05.584 --> 17:08.114 work, then let's tell everybody. But like, if you tell them now, it's just gonna 17:08.614 --> 17:11.982 derail things. Because people are gonna assume it does things it doesn't, and I'll look 17:12.482 --> 17:14.808 like an idiot, like whatever. 'Cause he's absolutely right. Like, you know, if you came 17:15.308 --> 17:18.725 and said, oh, we can teleport stuff from point A to point B, oh, 17:18.741 --> 17:22.194 by the way, only inanimate, solid, like carbon-based objects. Like, it's like, well, 17:23.045 --> 17:26.641 who cares? Like, I guess it's fine for shipping. Yeah. If you've got pods, 17:26.673 --> 17:29.275 like, you know, one in New York and one in LA, okay, cool, instant shipping. 17:29.323 --> 17:32.534 But like, that's not that useful necessarily the way he's doing it. So he makes 17:33.034 --> 17:36.650 a good point there. So Veronica goes home, 17:36.710 --> 17:39.350 kind of mulling over, I feel like, this choice, or she's gonna do it, 17:39.850 --> 17:42.050 whatever. But she goes home and her, you know, there's somebody in her apartment. 17:42.550 --> 17:44.830 Like, she can hear the shower going and it's like, what the fuck? And so 17:45.330 --> 17:47.770 she sees and it's fucking Stathis. And he's just in there and he's like, 17:48.270 --> 17:50.589 I was in the neighborhood, felt grimy. And it's like, what the fuck? Jesus shit. 17:51.089 --> 17:53.330 But this is where we find out they dated. She had given him a key 17:53.830 --> 17:56.990 when they dated and had not changed the locks. He keeps the key and even 17:57.490 --> 17:59.730 by the end of this scene mentions that he's gonna hold onto it. It's like, 18:00.230 --> 18:03.130 bruh, give her the goddamn key back. Go to fucking Mordor and throw it in. 18:03.630 --> 18:07.517 That is not your key anymore, dude. Yeah. that he's 18:08.017 --> 18:10.101 like, well, why do I still have a key? She's like, cuz I'm lazy, 18:10.294 --> 18:13.568 and whatever she says. So good point about her self-image, 18:13.584 --> 18:16.842 or why she'd even like let him keep having the key and keep like allowing 18:16.874 --> 18:20.019 him back into her life. At one point she sits at her dining table here 18:20.519 --> 18:23.550 to like smoke a cigarette or whatever, and her ashtray is the size 18:24.050 --> 18:26.567 of a frisbee. It looks like a dog bowl. It's the biggest fucking ashtray I've 18:26.647 --> 18:30.194 ever seen in my life. It takes up like a fifth of the dining table. 18:30.515 --> 18:34.495 It's enormous. It's only for like Max 18:34.995 --> 18:36.428 Katie's like giant cigar that he smokes inside the movie theater. I think it would 18:36.928 --> 18:40.378 have been awesome if it was like stacked with like 50 or 60 cigarette butts 18:40.878 --> 18:44.024 that she just never clears. Um, 18:44.409 --> 18:47.543 so, so she's back, uh, with Seth, right? Oh God, where does 18:47.607 --> 18:50.934 he get a baboon from? I, I wrote down that he's got a 18:50.998 --> 18:54.495 baboon guy. He's got a baboon guy. And the 18:54.964 --> 18:58.228 one thing I'll say is like, have you ever heard of a fucking rat? 18:58.519 --> 19:01.766 I mean, right? Guinea pig. There's a reason that that's like a colloquialism. 19:02.486 --> 19:05.824 Like something, dude. Don't think that's something that you can teach a 19:05.872 --> 19:09.082 fucking multi-step handshake to. I get that it's not an ape, 19:09.243 --> 19:12.356 at least it's not a chimp or whatever, an orangutan, but like it's close, 19:12.372 --> 19:15.341 man. It's only one step further away than that. You could have done this to 19:15.841 --> 19:19.851 a fucking goldfish. Yeah, you really could have. Like, so he leads the baboon 19:20.351 --> 19:23.269 into one of the teleporters or transporters. Yeah, yeah. 19:23.429 --> 19:27.169 And telepod. Telepod. Okay, we'll go telepod. And he plugs it in 19:27.361 --> 19:30.796 and you can see that it disappears from one location 19:30.988 --> 19:34.183 and then the second location Even when the stocking went to the second 19:34.683 --> 19:37.410 location, there's a lot of like fog and stuff inside there, so you can't see 19:37.910 --> 19:41.730 immediately. As you can't see anything, they're kind of waiting, and then it's like a 19:42.292 --> 19:45.358 bloody paw like kind of punches the window a little bit. Yeah. 19:45.599 --> 19:48.554 And then there's nothing. And when they walk up there— Well, and I'm like, 19:48.570 --> 19:51.139 why the fuck are you opening this thing? Like, this thing's gonna come— whatever it 19:51.639 --> 19:54.254 is is about to fly out at you, right? Because I, I— my initial thought 19:54.754 --> 19:58.123 was like, oh, it becomes evil or some shit like that, right? And, uh, 19:58.283 --> 20:01.940 and they look in there and way worse than that. Yeah, it's turned 20:02.116 --> 20:05.180 inside out. So that's a term he uses. I don't actually think that that's what 20:05.680 --> 20:08.548 it was supposed to look like, right? It's just that it reconstituted all the atoms 20:09.048 --> 20:13.055 in like random order. It— I watched it. Yeah, I mean, it looks— it's 20:13.103 --> 20:16.423 not an exact inside out, but it does have like extremities 20:16.923 --> 20:20.128 and stuff like that, like kind of a shape. Yeah, but it's just fucking disgusting. 20:20.176 --> 20:23.320 Very The Thing. Yes, it looks very much like when The Thing first gets into 20:23.820 --> 20:27.554 the dog pen. Yeah, it's very much like that sort of thing, although Bloodier. 20:27.795 --> 20:31.645 I feel I feel like more blood, less slimy looking. This is really Carpenter's 20:32.145 --> 20:34.275 body horror stuff. Maybe this is why it's easier for me to take. It's far 20:34.775 --> 20:38.141 less bloody. Everything's slimy and more alien looking. Alien exactly. 20:38.221 --> 20:41.734 This is like just yeah, it looks like a fucking inside out animal. It's it's 20:42.234 --> 20:45.985 horrific. And but yeah, there it is, and it's disgusting. This and 20:46.001 --> 20:49.482 then who cleans this up? Yeah, nobody mentions it, 20:49.611 --> 20:53.765 but it does apparently get cleaned up. Also, apparently this is Ronnie's kink. 20:54.103 --> 20:57.556 Because, uh, she gets incredibly horny for Seth and they make 20:57.620 --> 21:00.639 out at least and possibly bang at this point. Like, it's— it— so turning a 21:00.687 --> 21:03.996 baboon inside out is just— that gets her motor, that gets her engine running. 21:04.140 --> 21:08.204 That really gets her horned up. So gross that they end up hooking 21:08.220 --> 21:11.512 up. Like, it is right there. That's the kind of thing I would be like, 21:11.528 --> 21:14.933 oh, okay, my dick is off duty for like 2 and a half years now. 21:15.206 --> 21:19.205 Like, I'm not— I can't— I, I can't be around anything. Yeah. And Seth 21:19.478 --> 21:22.570 does— he has a lot of scientist quirks, you know. One of them, she's like, 21:23.070 --> 21:25.450 what, are you wearing the same clothes as yesterday? He's like, no, these are clean 21:25.950 --> 21:28.630 clothes, they're different clothes. I have a whole closet. He has like the Ronald McDonald 21:29.130 --> 21:32.750 closet where it's just like the same outfit. For some reason has like 10 pairs 21:33.250 --> 21:36.649 of shoes too. This is like, you don't wear shoes like that. 21:38.510 --> 21:42.170 Whatever, fucking scientist. Um, he said he learned it from Einstein. No, you didn't. 21:42.670 --> 21:46.420 Shut the fuck up. You learned, you learned it from your OCD. Like When 21:46.453 --> 21:50.525 they're on the bed, they're kind of rolling around on the bed. Yeah. And he 21:51.025 --> 21:53.779 like rolls a— it's like a loose computer chip or something like that? Yeah, 21:53.795 --> 21:56.633 it looks like a little module, some kind of thing that should be soldered to 21:57.133 --> 21:59.856 something somewhere else. And it's like, it like really digs into his back and kind 22:00.356 --> 22:02.661 of cuts him in a few— he's got like 3 little cuts then on his 22:02.726 --> 22:06.076 back that apparently are very important for later. But yeah, 22:06.092 --> 22:09.347 basically they're talking about why it 22:09.379 --> 22:12.233 didn't work, like what happened to the baboon. And he gets this like epiphany. 22:12.890 --> 22:15.840 And so he says something about, The, 22:16.340 --> 22:19.220 uh, you know, he— so, no, so he starts with a steak because she like 22:19.720 --> 22:21.860 brought steaks to make or something, right? So he cuts one steak in half, 22:22.120 --> 22:25.880 he puts one of the halves into the telepod. Again, apparently the other one's completely 22:26.380 --> 22:29.560 cleaned up because, oh my God. Yeah. Uh, teleports it over. Sure enough, it arrives 22:30.060 --> 22:32.180 and it looks like a steak. So then he cooks them both and he has 22:32.680 --> 22:35.260 her try them, and she jokes about his cooking not being very good, but like, 22:35.760 --> 22:37.660 oh, that tastes like a steak. And then he tries— shows her the one that's 22:38.160 --> 22:40.880 been transported, and she's like, wait, this was inside things? Like, I cleaned— he like 22:41.380 --> 22:43.853 says something about, I cleaned it up, but whatever. But she tastes it and goes, 22:44.366 --> 22:47.175 no, this tastes wrong. It tastes like synthetic or something. It doesn't taste right. 22:47.319 --> 22:50.866 Yeah. And when he goes on to explain that the computer had to like estimate 22:51.366 --> 22:54.766 what the result would be, it wasn't really moving anything. 22:54.814 --> 22:58.457 It had to like, you know, understand the decomposition in order to recompensate 22:58.473 --> 23:01.892 and whatever the thing or recompose the thing. I realized this is how LLMs 23:02.020 --> 23:05.214 work, by the way. This is literally how, quote, AI works, 23:05.294 --> 23:08.969 is that it's a computer taking in inputs and then guesstimating 23:09.082 --> 23:12.227 what an output like what's being requested might be and puts it out. 23:12.340 --> 23:15.100 It's, it's a text prediction thing. It's the same thing. This is doing it with 23:15.600 --> 23:19.220 genes. Yeah, no, it's, it's, uh, that, that's a great point. 23:19.900 --> 23:23.640 Um, and also, if you're doing this, 23:24.140 --> 23:27.680 I would go pantyhose, steak, baboon. 23:28.180 --> 23:31.400 Yeah, right. Poor fucking baboon. Or what, 23:31.900 --> 23:33.460 what if he— yeah, he gets it out of the thing. He's like, oh, 23:33.960 --> 23:36.520 here's the teleported steak. She's like, this is disgusting. He's like, oh, actually, that might 23:37.020 --> 23:40.073 have been a piece of something else. I'm sorry. Let me brush 23:40.573 --> 23:44.224 that baboon off of there for you. Sorry, just a little extra speck of 23:44.240 --> 23:48.006 baboon. Um, but Veronica, like, when they're in bed together, 23:48.150 --> 23:51.548 she starts going crazy and talking about, like, the flesh and how, you know, 23:51.596 --> 23:54.801 she can't get enough of the flesh or whatever. And then that leads into the 23:55.301 --> 23:58.263 steak thing, which is weird for her character because— But except that, again, the baboon 23:58.763 --> 24:01.853 getting turned inside out revved her engine, got her horned up. So I guess she's 24:02.353 --> 24:05.731 just like that. This— well, look, she's a big Cronenberg fan. I was gonna 24:06.231 --> 24:10.043 say Cronenberg, uh, made a movie in the '90s called 24:10.543 --> 24:13.552 Crash, not the not the one that won. But it's about people who have like 24:14.052 --> 24:18.375 a sexual fetish about like gruesome injuries and like wounds 24:18.455 --> 24:22.092 and scars and stuff like that. And James Spader is like one 24:22.592 --> 24:26.499 of the main characters, and he'll like go to scenes of like car crashes and 24:26.999 --> 24:29.351 stuff to try to like get a peek. He's like perving out trying to get 24:29.851 --> 24:33.149 a peek. So it's like she is. It's like the seed of 24:33.261 --> 24:36.289 like that type of thing, and maybe Cronenberg himself because honestly like. 24:36.626 --> 24:39.804 How are all of his movies? It sounds a little right. It sounds a little 24:39.852 --> 24:42.580 like a foot fetish scene showing up in a Tarantino flick. 24:42.917 --> 24:47.009 For sure, dude. Veronica has been followed 24:47.509 --> 24:52.337 to Seth's lab. Here we see the the boss's Maserati 24:52.674 --> 24:56.188 with the license plate that says Particle on it. I love the fucking 24:56.301 --> 24:59.815 vanity plate that has no creativity built into it. Are we? He's the 24:59.895 --> 25:03.121 editor. Are we supposed to believe that he invented slash is the publisher 25:03.621 --> 25:06.555 slash created it, or is he just like, "I love my company. I'm gonna get 25:07.055 --> 25:09.623 a." I'm gonna get the company I work for that could fire me at any 25:10.123 --> 25:13.286 time. I'm gonna get the fucking vanity plate for it. Everyone needs to 25:13.302 --> 25:16.836 realize you have less protection than the average NFL player when it comes 25:17.336 --> 25:20.756 to your job security. Like, don't, don't get a tattoo of fucking 25:20.933 --> 25:24.226 Oracle or whatever the fuck. And even NFL players don't have guaranteed contracts, so. 25:24.322 --> 25:27.696 Oh, they don't. Um, yeah, the boss 25:28.196 --> 25:31.712 is like, he's such a fucking dick. So now she's— she— he's 25:32.212 --> 25:35.856 followed her. Now she's like in a clothing store, right? And, uh, and he's just 25:35.889 --> 25:38.282 being such an asshole. Like, come on, what do you find out? Like, let me 25:38.782 --> 25:42.137 have it. Like, you're taking this story from me. Yeah, yeah. Like, he suspects, 25:42.378 --> 25:45.687 you know, what's going on here, uh, and she's like, fuck you, I don't have 25:46.187 --> 25:48.289 to report to you. I don't work for you anymore. 25:49.285 --> 25:52.224 Um, so while this is happening, she's like with him, 25:52.658 --> 25:55.790 and, uh, and Seth is back. He's supposed to meet up with 25:56.290 --> 25:59.308 her later that night, I think. Yeah. And, and he's— because he's been working on 25:59.485 --> 26:02.200 sort Making this better. Getting the meat transported. Exactly, 26:02.296 --> 26:05.493 figuring out how to sort of do that. And so supposedly 26:05.525 --> 26:09.317 he kind of does figure it out and we 26:09.817 --> 26:12.803 get another baboon sacrifice. Although this time at least Seth is, 26:13.622 --> 26:16.691 he seems to believe that it's not going to, 26:16.755 --> 26:18.892 you know, that it'll work this time kind of thing. So he's trying again. 26:19.422 --> 26:22.876 I don't know what this guy's got against baboons. Yeah. But basically, you know, 26:22.940 --> 26:26.459 he puts the baboon through and the baboon, 26:26.620 --> 26:30.240 Makes it. Yeah, and it's fine. Jumps out, comes out, jumps into his 26:30.740 --> 26:34.320 arms, and he is super psyched, right? And and Ronnie's I think 26:34.820 --> 26:37.260 Ronnie either shows up or is there to celebrate with him. Like like she celebrates 26:37.760 --> 26:41.400 the baboon part, I think, and then is like, you know, 26:41.900 --> 26:44.860 well, let's let's wait a few days and see if anything happens. Like if anything, 26:45.360 --> 26:47.740 right? We like test the baboon, get the baboon tested, whatever. So he says he 26:48.240 --> 26:50.220 says send the baboon out to a lab or something, and then whatever. So she 26:50.720 --> 26:53.820 says she's got to go, and this is like I don't remember exactly why he's 26:54.320 --> 26:56.600 so suspicious of all this, but it's like something about. 26:57.717 --> 27:01.371 She says something about Stathis or like whatever. Like basically he, Seth here 27:01.483 --> 27:06.019 gets very jealous. Yes. And very upset about her leaving 27:06.372 --> 27:10.170 to go whatever. And basically gets drunk and decides 27:10.474 --> 27:14.289 to try it out himself. Yeah. This is crazy. This is 27:14.385 --> 27:17.863 definitely, he's high on his own supply like 27:17.927 --> 27:21.901 fucking crazy here. You're fine, baboon. Stathis did leave like under 27:21.934 --> 27:25.235 the door, there was an envelope from Particle Magazine that had like a 27:25.283 --> 27:29.310 cover story mockup of like Brundle, you know, showing him like, hey man, 27:29.810 --> 27:32.940 like let us publish your shit. Like this is, this is what you're gonna have. 27:33.070 --> 27:36.720 And that, and he's really like claiming ownership of the story over, 27:36.890 --> 27:41.360 over Veronica. And he does like openly suggest like, 27:42.310 --> 27:45.730 like, oh, why don't we just have sex? Which is 27:46.230 --> 27:48.690 really funny. Like, yes, like not love. I'm not interested. But just, you know, 27:49.190 --> 27:52.730 just good old raw sex. How about that? This guy, he's incredibly Ellis-coded. 27:53.230 --> 27:56.650 He reminds me a lot of Ellis. The beard especially. Yeah, the beard. I usually 27:57.150 --> 27:59.630 like a good full beard. This guy's beard. Yeah. It turns me away. I mean, 27:59.690 --> 28:03.030 mainly I think because I've seen the actor in so many things, never with a 28:03.530 --> 28:06.870 beard. Yeah. Uh, but you know, yeah, it really threw me off. Uh, 28:07.370 --> 28:10.690 yeah, so, so Brundle is— yeah, he's drunk now. He's, he's like, 28:11.190 --> 28:14.150 fuck Veronica, she's not gonna come here for this. Yeah, I'm just— he's talking to 28:14.650 --> 28:17.730 the baboon. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like, you're fine, this will be fine. 28:18.230 --> 28:21.710 Like, yeah, yeah. So he decides to go into the telepod, 28:22.210 --> 28:25.410 right? And when he does, a fly flies in and is inside the pod with 28:25.910 --> 28:29.290 him. He doesn't notice. He's in there naked and the fly's in there and 28:29.627 --> 28:31.956 the whole thing sort of— you can put like a timer on it. It's sort 28:32.456 --> 28:36.051 of like a selfie on an old, you know, camera on a tripod. So it's 28:36.551 --> 28:39.584 a countdown and it sends over, but only, you know, the fly doesn't come back, 28:40.001 --> 28:43.470 right? When he arrives, it's just him. And he's been filming it so 28:43.970 --> 28:46.281 that he could at least show Ronnie this, you know, when she does get back. 28:47.212 --> 28:50.520 And he, like, before the countdown is done, when he's in the pod, 28:50.536 --> 28:53.459 he looks up and he clearly sees the fly there. Oh, you think so? 28:53.540 --> 28:56.920 He looks up right at it. He does. Unless the camera is just showing 28:57.420 --> 29:00.240 us that he's looking in a direction so that it can focus on the fly. 29:00.740 --> 29:03.980 But I, I think that he sees it and chooses to ignore it. But it's— 29:04.480 --> 29:07.560 I, I felt like either way, he's not being careful here. No, he's clearly not 29:08.060 --> 29:10.480 being careful. But yeah, it's like, I don't know, like, he does seem surprised when 29:10.980 --> 29:13.560 he later discovers that there was like a secondary— the computer tells him there's a 29:14.060 --> 29:17.460 secondary life form. Yeah. He seems surprised by that fact. But, but basically he's 29:17.960 --> 29:21.200 laying in bed now, right, with, with Ronnie? Well, so he emerges— yeah, he emerges 29:21.700 --> 29:25.520 T2 naked from the, uh, from the pod. And the baboon jumps into 29:26.020 --> 29:28.360 his arm and stuff, and he's all excited, and he's like, oh, too bad Ronnie 29:28.860 --> 29:32.760 missed it. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, now she's— now she's back, and he's like asleep. 29:33.260 --> 29:35.460 And yeah, he's asleep. She climbs into bed with him, and he ends up like 29:35.960 --> 29:39.060 laying in bed, and a fly is buzzing around, and he is able to like— 29:39.560 --> 29:42.860 like Mr. Miyagi— just grab it. And it's like, okay, so his reflexes are crazy. 29:43.060 --> 29:45.880 And then he lets it go. Yeah, he lets it go. And then, uh, 29:46.380 --> 29:48.660 Ronnie wakes up and he's not in bed, so she walks up and he is 29:49.160 --> 29:51.934 covered in sweat, like out in the main part of his room. Doing fucking gym 29:51.982 --> 29:55.504 kata calisthenics. I love it. It's just you know we've we've had a lot of 29:55.698 --> 29:58.946 recent randomly placed gymnastics equipment like 29:59.010 --> 30:02.145 in the Princess Bride. So yeah, it was great to see some 30:02.210 --> 30:05.827 gym kata work here. Even was a while ago, but the Breakfast Club 30:06.327 --> 30:08.931 right has gymnastics over the book stacks. 30:10.800 --> 30:13.308 We got to do gym kata at some point. We have to. We have to. 30:13.357 --> 30:16.338 It gets referenced too much. Exactly. Yeah. So. 30:16.610 --> 30:20.210 So he's like sitting on a chair and like pushes himself upright on the chair 30:20.710 --> 30:22.290 with his legs sticking straight out. Oh my God. Like all this crazy stuff. 30:22.790 --> 30:24.910 And then lifts them up, like it's ridiculous. And goes into a hand— like a 30:25.410 --> 30:28.970 headstand from that. And then is like swinging on this— 30:29.470 --> 30:32.450 I feel terrible for this pipe that's in his kitchen. It's like, how is this 30:32.950 --> 30:36.330 holding the weight of like a 180-pound guy just swinging? But he's doing all 30:36.830 --> 30:41.430 this crazy like parallel bar activity here. And again, 30:41.930 --> 30:44.855 you don't wanna have special effects necessarily. Yeah, 30:45.112 --> 30:48.325 right. So to use this double is a smart way of just showing like 30:48.825 --> 30:52.710 how energized he's feeling just one day after going through, 30:52.807 --> 30:55.473 as he calls it. Yeah, yeah. And, uh, and coming through the other side of 30:55.973 --> 30:58.413 the teleporter. I love that they got an actual gymnast and put a Jeff Goldblum 30:58.525 --> 31:01.272 wig on him basically to do that, which— it looked good. I mean, you couldn't— 31:01.336 --> 31:03.971 they did the, the— everything was good. It looked like a good double. So yeah, 31:04.131 --> 31:07.232 yeah. But then the next day they're, uh, getting coffee together, uh, 31:07.698 --> 31:11.280 Seth and Ronnie, and his face is starting to look Funky. He's got 31:11.780 --> 31:15.500 he's got a little quite sores. Yes, maybe acne something, and he is dumping sugar 31:16.000 --> 31:18.259 into his coffee. She even says to me, "Do you want some coffee with your 31:18.759 --> 31:21.580 sugar?" It's like fuck you. That's a stupid joke. But you know dump dump dump 31:22.080 --> 31:24.890 sugar sugar sugar, and he's talking like twenty miles an hour. I mean so fast. 31:25.200 --> 31:27.990 Cocaine behavior. Yes. I mean this is like very cocaine-ish, 31:28.420 --> 31:32.460 right? Yep. And and he's yeah his energy level. 31:32.960 --> 31:36.120 He was already kind of like a jittery nervous guy, right? Twitchy looking around and 31:36.620 --> 31:39.656 yeah to. crank it up. Yeah, is, is nuts. 31:39.977 --> 31:43.543 Um, and, uh, and they end up back at 31:43.768 --> 31:48.186 his place, and then clearly he's able to have like incredible 31:48.686 --> 31:52.330 endurance in bed, right? They're fucking constantly, and she says, like, 31:52.507 --> 31:56.378 I gotta fucking stop. Oh man. But then she, while they're naked together, she finds 31:56.878 --> 32:00.153 these coarse hairs, and it's sort of like where that, that, uh, microchip or 32:00.653 --> 32:03.832 whatever like cut his back. Now there's these really coarse, like, what look like 32:04.332 --> 32:06.880 hairs coming out And she notices for the first time and is like, well, 32:07.380 --> 32:10.600 that's fucking weird, you know? Yeah, and she cuts them off. Yeah, she does, 32:11.100 --> 32:13.140 she clips one. And he like reacts as if it was more than a hair. 32:13.640 --> 32:14.940 Like he reacts to clipping. Right, like he could feel it for sure. Like he 32:15.440 --> 32:17.920 could feel it and everything. It was interesting. And he tries to convince her to 32:18.420 --> 32:21.060 go through. And he's all like, you gotta go through. Like this has turned me 32:21.560 --> 32:24.040 into a superhuman. Like you gotta join me now. After like 2 days, right? 32:24.540 --> 32:27.340 Oh, real fast, yeah. And he's just like, oh, it's the perfect drug. And the 32:27.840 --> 32:31.300 only, you know, except that it's all natural and there's no consequence and I will 32:31.800 --> 32:34.720 never suffer any consequence. I will say it seems quick, but also there are definitely 32:35.220 --> 32:37.964 points in this movie where it jumps time isn't real clear to us how much. 32:38.061 --> 32:41.481 So there's— it's tough to follow the timeline entirely, but it does seem quick after 32:41.754 --> 32:45.222 the thing. But they're also clearly like, you know, in this relationship 32:45.722 --> 32:48.401 now. They're not just like, yeah, you know, seeing each other. Like, they're like dating 32:48.497 --> 32:52.110 dating. And so it— time is passing. Um, but you know, he— And 32:52.610 --> 32:54.840 he's kind of going off on her about like, like, come on, go through, 32:55.000 --> 32:57.553 like, go through. And she's like, no, I know. And he doesn't even have time 32:57.585 --> 33:00.717 for her to answer, right? He's one of— like, you talk to people in that 33:01.217 --> 33:04.910 state sometimes. fuck. And, uh, and he's like, whatever, you're a 33:05.410 --> 33:07.830 drag, you're lame, I'm gonna go find somebody who can keep up with me. 33:08.330 --> 33:12.090 Yeah, yeah. And he heads out, goes to like this like rough looking— yeah, 33:12.590 --> 33:15.000 very Double Deuce, like a smaller Double Deuce, like a— yeah, kind of bar. 33:15.450 --> 33:17.790 Um, and the bar that Sam Elliott would have worked at. There you go. 33:18.290 --> 33:21.090 Yeah, exactly. And he sees these 2 guys arm wrestling, and he walks up to 33:21.590 --> 33:24.550 this lady, basically this woman there, and it's kind of like, hey, like, you know, 33:25.050 --> 33:26.970 you want to come with me kind of thing, whatever. And the guys are obviously 33:27.470 --> 33:29.570 with her, get up and like, you know, hey, whatever, You have a problem, 33:30.070 --> 33:32.190 bud? And he's like, well, I could arm wrestle either one of you and win. 33:32.690 --> 33:34.810 And they're like, haha, 'cause he looks kind of scrawny, right? But he knows he's 33:35.310 --> 33:37.870 got this crazy superhuman strength now. And so they're like, all right, I'll bet you 33:38.370 --> 33:41.470 $100 that I can beat you in arm wrestling. And if I win, I get 33:41.970 --> 33:43.570 to take the lady home. And she's like, do I get a say in this? 33:44.070 --> 33:47.770 It's like, no, it's 1986. Yeah, you won't get a say for at least 10, 33:48.270 --> 33:51.290 15 more years. But no, so he does. He goes to arm wrestle the fat 33:51.790 --> 33:53.760 guy. By the way, the skinny guy, not the guy who gets his wrist broken. 33:54.010 --> 33:56.470 The skinny guy is David Cronenberg, just so you know that that is who he 33:56.970 --> 33:58.110 is. Oh, okay, he put himself in there too. He put himself in there just 33:58.610 --> 34:01.188 in that part of the movie. But yeah, so he, uh, 34:02.295 --> 34:05.457 Seth goes to arm wrestle this guy, and it's really interesting because it doesn't— I 34:05.489 --> 34:08.988 figured he would just, you know, kind of quickly— I don't know if he's toying 34:09.005 --> 34:11.043 with the guy or whatever, but it takes a while to really go. And then 34:11.091 --> 34:14.157 when he finally does push through, he like rips the man's hand off, 34:14.173 --> 34:17.608 basically. Yeah. Compound fracture of the wrist. Breaks the wrist, and you see 34:18.108 --> 34:21.572 the bone come out. It's a really gnarly effect. And then this is something that 34:21.620 --> 34:24.573 when I saw it as a kid, yeah, this is— this stuck with me, 34:24.590 --> 34:27.880 this part. This stayed in the TV. So I don't know, I don't know if 34:28.380 --> 34:31.811 I Was my dad was watching it or something? But I think they 34:32.311 --> 34:34.924 could show it because it's like there's not that much blood. It is just an 34:35.424 --> 34:38.327 injury. That's true. So certain times it might have been shown, especially if it was 34:38.375 --> 34:41.248 like the late night movie, even if it was on like you know the local 34:41.585 --> 34:44.458 yeah Fox affiliate or something. Right, right. Um, 34:44.891 --> 34:48.582 so now uh so Seth so he wins disgusting. 34:48.887 --> 34:52.177 I I wrote yuck and ooh so many times in my notes here. Yeah, 34:52.193 --> 34:55.485 so he wins and then his prize is that he's Going home with 34:55.985 --> 34:59.069 this bar floozy, Tanya, I think is her name. And it's like all I'm thinking 34:59.085 --> 35:01.527 the whole time is, girl, this guy is going to kill you. Like why would 35:02.027 --> 35:04.660 you go with this person? Where are you going with him? He just ripped apparently 35:05.160 --> 35:07.392 a friend of yours, or at least someone you know, ripped his fucking hand off. 35:07.456 --> 35:10.284 And you're like, yeah, I'm gonna hang with this guy some more. What the fuck 35:10.364 --> 35:13.883 is this? Yeah, she's something like not the best decision maker. 35:14.446 --> 35:16.856 But what she says when he's like, do you want to go home? She's like, 35:16.920 --> 35:19.893 well, let's go out more. So yeah, I think we're led to believe that they 35:20.393 --> 35:24.100 go out and they're. Drinking more or whatever. Um, at least she's getting drunk, 35:24.600 --> 35:28.200 right? Clearly he probably metabolizes the liquor quickly or something. Yeah, 35:28.700 --> 35:31.980 maybe he doesn't drink anything. Uh, so when they get home, he's— she's like, 35:32.480 --> 35:34.620 oh, you don't have an elevator to this place? And he's like, oh, I got 35:35.120 --> 35:38.340 an elevator. And he picks her up. And this is another, another cool 35:38.840 --> 35:42.140 way to shoot this. Yeah, yeah. Is it would look stupid if you had like 35:42.640 --> 35:45.220 a clear shot of him like running up the steps holding her. So it's just 35:45.720 --> 35:48.660 showing the feet kind of like get more like hoppy as he goes up, 35:49.160 --> 35:51.503 you know? Super fast. So he's like Sprinting up the stairs with her. Yeah, 35:51.551 --> 35:56.133 yeah. And and then it cuts to you know she's 35:56.730 --> 36:00.476 they've clearly been fucking for a long time. She's very like worn down 36:00.573 --> 36:04.227 watching him, and he emerges from the telepod. You know, to be like, 36:04.340 --> 36:07.283 see now you do it. Like get in, get in. 36:09.198 --> 36:12.110 Yeah, he's he's not a good guy, right? Oh yeah. And he's like, come on, 36:12.190 --> 36:16.538 come on. Don't be afraid. Don't be afraid. And then Veronica 36:16.554 --> 36:19.314 has shown up there, and she goes, oh be afraid. Be very afraid. So dumb. 36:19.364 --> 36:22.477 So cheesy. Jeannie hated that. 36:22.573 --> 36:26.308 Yeah, that line. You know, so this movie was— 36:26.725 --> 36:30.011 it's not in the credits. This movie's producer, 36:30.092 --> 36:33.394 one of them, was Mel Brooks. He was somebody who made 36:33.894 --> 36:37.321 sure that this movie got made, like when it, when it came out. And he, 36:37.337 --> 36:40.383 because he was a fan of Cronenberg from something and like wanted to make sure 36:40.511 --> 36:44.006 Cronenberg gets final cut on it and everything, Mel Brooks didn't want his name in 36:44.038 --> 36:47.388 the credits because he didn't want people to see this as like a Mel Brooks, 36:47.404 --> 36:50.979 right? Something involving him. Okay. But his like one suggestion 36:51.187 --> 36:54.684 is that the Be Very Afraid should be like the tagline for the movie. 36:54.748 --> 36:57.445 So that was like what a Mel Brooks thing. So I don't know if he 36:57.510 --> 37:00.304 wrote this line or this line was there, but he had it like kind of 37:00.480 --> 37:02.841 emphasized or whatever. I gotta be honest with you, Nick, when you started that Mel 37:02.889 --> 37:06.036 Brooks story, I couldn't tell if you're doing a bit or not. Oh, that's my 37:06.536 --> 37:09.938 thing. I don't want anyone to know. Yeah, I thought that was, that was interesting. 37:10.050 --> 37:13.711 And, uh, Mel Brooks just like making, pulling strings in Hollywood 37:14.211 --> 37:18.608 and stuff. Um, so Veronica is telling Seth 37:18.704 --> 37:22.270 like Look, you look bad. I had these hairs analyzed at the 37:22.770 --> 37:25.870 lab. Insect hairs. And yeah, they were unable to identify what they are. They said 37:26.370 --> 37:29.770 it seems like insect hands. Like, you look sick. Yeah. And then 37:30.270 --> 37:33.110 because his face now is— they're sores. They're not just acne. It's like bad. 37:33.210 --> 37:36.570 Yeah. Yeah. And again, like, is this movie being an allegory for so 37:37.070 --> 37:40.710 many things? You know, it's like, like certain drugs, like a cocaine 37:41.210 --> 37:44.750 thing. Now he's in like the roid rage phase. Like he's like a steroid 37:45.250 --> 37:48.610 monster, right? His skin looks bad and everything and he's super strong. And he does 37:49.110 --> 37:52.300 one of the funniest things where she's He's like, does this look like a sick 37:52.800 --> 37:56.240 man? And then just starts punching bits of wood off his wall. Off of like 37:56.740 --> 38:00.260 a beam. It's a beam. It's a load-bearing piece of structure. Like an 38:00.760 --> 38:03.800 8 by 8 inch. Exactly. Fucking crazy thing. 38:04.160 --> 38:08.060 It's like, yes, you do look like a psycho, psycho. If you 38:08.560 --> 38:11.800 ever want a girl to stay, definitely start punching the wall. Yeah, it's gonna make 38:12.300 --> 38:16.160 her— So this is when— and this is right about where— Oh, 38:16.660 --> 38:18.860 this is where the movie doesn't get good for you. It gets bad for me 38:19.360 --> 38:22.686 in particular. I enjoyed the movie to this point. I didn't love the movie 38:23.186 --> 38:25.158 at this point, but I enjoyed it more than from this point on. Because when 38:25.658 --> 38:28.737 his fingernails start coming off, that was 38:28.753 --> 38:31.643 the first time that I was like— I mean, the baboon was gross, but that 38:32.143 --> 38:33.794 again was a little more like horror movie stuff that I got used to. 38:33.842 --> 38:35.929 But like the fingernails coming off really sent me off the deep end. And the 38:36.429 --> 38:39.846 tooth thing. I mean, they know, you know, those things are so triggering for 38:40.346 --> 38:43.602 people to see. It's meant to elicit a response, and it did 38:44.102 --> 38:46.957 just that. I'll give it to them. When they show a close-up of his hand, 38:46.989 --> 38:50.121 he has very Like aside from the fingernail coming off, 38:50.185 --> 38:53.817 just very disgusting looking hands, right? And they're kind of like bulbous at the fingers 38:54.317 --> 38:58.284 and and everything. So he pulls the fingernail, and then it cuts to Goldblum 38:58.380 --> 39:01.513 like just you know his whole body. Yeah. And you see his hand, and he 39:02.013 --> 39:05.530 has beautiful perfect hands. They didn't put like a prosthetic fake gross hand on 39:06.030 --> 39:09.612 him in that scene. That's funny. So but 39:10.112 --> 39:13.066 he goes to the computer basically, and he starts doing analysis. What's happening? Like am 39:13.163 --> 39:16.530 I dying? Like How could my perfect science have gone wrong? 39:17.030 --> 39:20.590 Right, the thing I tried once and didn't turn the baboon inside out, 39:21.090 --> 39:23.090 so I put myself in. But yeah, basically it gets— the computer says, yeah, 39:23.590 --> 39:26.110 there were 2 life forms, there's this and this, and it's able to identify the 39:26.610 --> 39:29.270 second one as a fly, basically. And it's like, and then he types, well, 39:29.770 --> 39:32.790 what happened? Where did the fly go? Did Brundle consume fly? Like, it's a very 39:33.290 --> 39:36.550 weird little— the way he communicates with this computer. And then 39:37.050 --> 39:40.690 it's like, no, fusion of Brundle and fly was what— Yeah, at the molecular 39:41.190 --> 39:43.498 and cellular level. The molecular genetic level, yeah, whatever it is. And it's like, 39:43.579 --> 39:47.512 okay, so you have been blended with a fly. You're not like— it's 39:48.012 --> 39:50.997 like neither the fly nor Seth Brundle is gone. Yeah, but it's something else, 39:51.045 --> 39:54.497 right? Entirely right. And it's not like there's just a full fly in the 39:54.513 --> 39:57.740 middle of his mouth chilling. It's like, no, you're all mixed, 39:57.756 --> 39:59.972 dog. Um, and this is one of the points where we get a hint that 40:00.472 --> 40:03.344 there's been some significant time that passes, because then when he does talk to Ronnie 40:03.844 --> 40:05.768 on the phone, he says something about like, I haven't wanted to talk to you 40:06.268 --> 40:08.369 in the last 4 weeks because like I'm trying to figure stuff out or whatever. 40:08.722 --> 40:12.175 But he is now— he's fucking disgusting now. It's like he's really starting to fall 40:12.675 --> 40:16.960 apart as a flesh and bone person. Yeah, yeah. And he's still mostly 40:16.992 --> 40:20.107 Goldblum face, but very gross. A lot of, a lot of makeup and stuff. 40:20.187 --> 40:23.446 Yeah. Um, yeah, he's really gross. And, uh, 40:23.639 --> 40:27.509 when she gets to his lab, he's moving around in a 40:28.009 --> 40:31.154 very odd way. Like, he has to use these 2 canes to kind of move 40:31.186 --> 40:33.915 himself around there. And, um, yeah. 40:34.477 --> 40:38.266 He's like losing bone density or something or whatever. Yeah, and she's like, 40:38.651 --> 40:41.766 you know, talking to him, and he's like, I'm not Seth Brundle anymore. 40:41.942 --> 40:45.233 Oh, and there's like all sugary foods. Yes, like the waste 40:45.733 --> 40:49.905 of sugary foods, like all over the place, donuts and stuff. So he takes 40:50.405 --> 40:53.662 a donut, he goes to eat the donut, and he spits this goo. It's like 40:54.162 --> 40:57.579 white, you know, enzyme that flies have or whatever that they can't digest anything. 40:57.675 --> 41:01.671 Yeah, digest the food, and that— very gross. His His ear comes off. 41:01.784 --> 41:05.438 Oh God, yes. Um, and then she fucking 41:05.470 --> 41:08.949 hugs him. I would be very loving 41:09.077 --> 41:12.732 from afar for somebody like that in that situation. I'm not hugging 41:12.764 --> 41:15.650 shit if your ear just fell off. And this is where I feel like the 41:16.150 --> 41:19.673 time between them meeting and him really turning had to be 41:19.882 --> 41:23.809 kind of longer than the movie necessarily lets us know, because like, they— she needed 41:24.309 --> 41:27.800 to build up like love for him to be reacting 41:27.833 --> 41:30.798 this way. And it's like, I don't really understand how that could have happened over 41:31.298 --> 41:34.728 just a week or two, right? You know? good to, to see. We need the 41:34.744 --> 41:38.418 montage from, uh, so they're naked, where they clothesline 41:38.918 --> 41:42.238 the people on the beach. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, just any of those, 41:42.270 --> 41:45.608 like, the dating montage. We need some kind of time-passing dating montage. We didn't really 41:45.640 --> 41:48.897 get it. Yeah. Uh, and I feel like really it was the amount of time 41:48.929 --> 41:52.540 between them getting together and, and sort of meeting and him 41:52.620 --> 41:56.215 getting the telepod to work. That was probably a lot 41:56.715 --> 41:58.622 of time, but we don't really get a sense of how long because, yeah, 41:58.638 --> 42:00.612 she's clearly like in love with her, I mean, I mean, in love with him, 42:00.628 --> 42:04.015 but like loves him, feels for him, and is like very, you know, concerned and 42:04.515 --> 42:07.644 very worried and whatever. Whereas they also haven't spoken in 4 weeks, so like, 42:07.708 --> 42:11.192 yeah, it's a very strange relationship, right? Because it was so short before that, 42:11.240 --> 42:14.467 potentially very short. So like your commitment is, uh, 42:14.997 --> 42:18.496 is done. And she sees him— this is a really cool effect. Oh yeah. 42:18.625 --> 42:21.691 Where he's walking on the ceiling. He's, uh, he's trying to 42:21.756 --> 42:25.143 have— he's trying to have Veronica take like a demonstration video. 42:25.191 --> 42:28.360 He's like, yo, I'm not— oh yeah, I'm not Seth Brundle anymore. 42:28.860 --> 42:33.000 I'm the Brundlefly, right? Yeah. And, uh, and he's explaining the 42:33.500 --> 42:36.840 enzyme thing again, right? And he's, oh, I vomit this 42:37.340 --> 42:41.380 onto my food and it liquefies it back up. And at 42:41.880 --> 42:44.880 this point, at this point, I'm watching with my wife. She has never been more 42:45.380 --> 42:49.160 interested in her crossword puzzle. She is fully like, 42:49.660 --> 42:51.460 oh my God. From this point on in this movie, I pretty much was grimacing, 42:51.960 --> 42:54.920 I think, the whole time as I watched it. I'm so funny because my wife 42:55.420 --> 42:56.620 Heather, she said like, um, she— before I started, she's like, oh, have you ever 42:57.120 --> 42:59.535 seen The Fly? And I'm like, No, and she's like, "I'm pretty sure I've seen 43:00.035 --> 43:02.384 it." Like God, really? Because it's so. I've heard it's so gross. She goes, 43:02.803 --> 43:05.314 "Oh, I don't know if I remember it being that gross." We realized afterwards she 43:05.814 --> 43:07.617 definitely had never seen The Fly. I'm not sure what movie she was thinking of, 43:07.971 --> 43:10.789 but it wasn't this, or it was heavily edited or something. Because yeah, like when 43:11.289 --> 43:14.515 I was explaining something, she goes, "Oh yeah, I don't think I've seen that," which 43:15.015 --> 43:17.815 is just not. She doesn't wouldn't take me as someone who stomachs this kind of 43:18.089 --> 43:23.192 film. Never one I would recommend to her. But yeah, so yeah, 43:23.256 --> 43:26.601 so Veronica has discovered yes that she's 43:26.617 --> 43:29.820 pregnant. That she's pregnant. with and has only been having sex with Seth. 43:29.850 --> 43:33.630 So, and of course it was after he turned that they had their marathon 43:34.130 --> 43:37.390 fuck sesh that like she had to quit from, right? Uh, so this is, 43:37.890 --> 43:42.030 this is Brundlefly that has impregnated her, not just, uh, pre-fly Brundle, 43:42.530 --> 43:45.410 right? At least from what we've been shown, like that's the most likely thing. 43:45.910 --> 43:49.310 But even if there's a possibility, seeing what's happening to him, it's like, 43:49.810 --> 43:52.150 yeah, all right, this is, this has got to go. And she reaches out to 43:52.650 --> 43:55.010 Stathis. Yes. And he, and he offers to like help her out, right? Right. 43:55.510 --> 43:57.550 And so they go and, and kind of like go to get the abortion done 43:58.050 --> 44:00.284 in the middle of the night, and everybody's like, really? He's like, just let's take 44:00.784 --> 44:04.199 care of this, right? So she gets onto the table or whatever, and they're, 44:04.616 --> 44:07.681 you know, it's like a DNC. They're trying to like, you know, eject whatever's inside 44:08.181 --> 44:11.500 of her, but what comes out is a fucking full thrashing maggot, 44:11.580 --> 44:15.046 like a baby fly larva. And she wakes up from the nightmare, 44:15.126 --> 44:17.837 and so that was just a dream. But what's not a dream is that she's 44:18.337 --> 44:21.849 actually pregnant. Yeah, right. So the problem still exists when she wakes up. 44:22.731 --> 44:26.470 Um, so at this point, uh, we're back with the Brundlefly, 44:26.903 --> 44:30.753 and his face is completely transformed now. He looks like the Toxic Avenger. 44:30.834 --> 44:34.443 Yeah, yeah, a little bit. Yeah, I've got the style, but nothing green about him, 44:34.604 --> 44:37.940 right? And, and what his research is kind of telling him, 44:38.085 --> 44:41.742 or what he's— the conclusion he's come to is that the way to become human 44:42.242 --> 44:45.544 again is I have to teleport with more humans. And I don't understand how he 44:45.592 --> 44:49.218 feels like this is gonna work. It's like, I just need more human DNA 44:49.718 --> 44:52.106 in me to dilute this fly DNA. Yeah, I think that's the thing. He's just— 44:52.606 --> 44:55.683 he's basically just, uh, uh, guessing, 44:55.811 --> 44:58.265 essentially. Like, it's a hypothesis. Like, I don't think he has any reason to actually 44:58.425 --> 45:01.232 know this would work, because God knows what'll come out the other end if you're 45:01.732 --> 45:04.808 continuing to splice stuff together. Right. But the theory is like, well, if let's say 45:05.177 --> 45:09.138 it's not a size thing so much as a number of different components thing, 45:09.186 --> 45:12.698 if I'm half fly, half human, if I then blend with another human, 45:12.714 --> 45:15.521 then I'll be quarter fly, 3 quarters human. Maybe that'll be better. 45:15.986 --> 45:18.953 And it's like— and then he talks, because Ronnie's pregnant, he mentions like, well, 45:18.969 --> 45:21.635 we'll be a whole family. Yes, one person, 45:21.683 --> 45:23.609 including— it'll be the 3 of us. And all of a sudden she's like, 45:23.625 --> 45:26.844 what the fuck are you talking about? Yeah, it's so 45:26.925 --> 45:30.869 crazy. And, um, so Brundlefly 45:31.754 --> 45:35.338 continues to lose body parts, right? And he's 45:35.370 --> 45:38.891 keeping like kind of a little museum of his shit. 45:39.247 --> 45:42.210 It looks like one has a jar with his dick in it. 45:43.560 --> 45:46.719 There's one that doesn't have a dick in it. Or, uh, 45:47.201 --> 45:51.039 or whatever. Very gross. And he's 45:51.151 --> 45:54.427 very proud of it. And so like during this time that he's becoming 45:54.523 --> 45:57.590 more gross, like he's not bothered by it. No, no, no, 45:57.719 --> 46:01.187 he's just kind of fascinated by it. And he believes that he 46:01.687 --> 46:04.334 is like some kind of advancement of evolution as well, that he's like this new 46:04.543 --> 46:08.381 life form, right? You know, and that's very important and people should want to study 46:08.397 --> 46:11.930 him and to whatever, you know, this stuff. Um, and so he'd 46:12.430 --> 46:15.251 tell— but he tells her she needs to go. Right? I mean, because he says, 46:15.267 --> 46:18.186 I'll hurt you if you stay, right? He's like, you gotta leave and never come 46:18.202 --> 46:21.810 back. And he goes into this kind of weird speech about like, you know, 46:22.051 --> 46:25.482 insects don't have politics. They have no politics. 46:26.124 --> 46:28.994 I could be the first insect politician. You know what's funny? 46:29.748 --> 46:33.180 And, and I get the purpose of the scene is to show that he's losing 46:33.680 --> 46:37.461 his fucking mind. Yes. But he's also realizing that like, I'm— because like, 46:37.525 --> 46:41.054 I don't— I no longer have like human capabilities of like Like love 46:41.554 --> 46:44.664 and empathy and like all this shit. Like I am bug brain. I'm becoming bug 46:45.164 --> 46:48.836 brain. Like get the fuck out of here. I saw this interview recently 46:49.336 --> 46:52.206 with Jeff Goldblum, and it was somebody talking to him about like different roles he'd 46:52.706 --> 46:55.302 played, and they'd show a clip and stuff. And it's so funny to watch an 46:55.399 --> 46:58.351 actor watch an old clip of theirs, you know, because the guy sets up this 46:58.463 --> 47:01.576 insect politics clip, and it's just devastating and 47:02.076 --> 47:05.427 heartbreaking and stuff. So you get kind of like the double screen of 47:05.443 --> 47:09.138 like it showing and then Goldblum watching it, and he's just like. like almost 47:09.283 --> 47:13.247 crying by like how touched he is by his own performance. It just really 47:13.747 --> 47:16.600 fucking cracked me up. He had 9 scarves on while he was watching. It was 47:17.100 --> 47:20.890 cool as shit, dude. Um, so, uh, he's like 47:21.390 --> 47:23.525 the Steven Tyler of scarves. Yes, 47:25.068 --> 47:28.392 Steven Tyler and his, uh, mic stand got morphed 47:28.892 --> 47:31.546 together in the— through the telepath with Jeff Goldblum. 47:33.277 --> 47:36.690 So this conversation, and Veronica went in like to tell 47:37.190 --> 47:40.870 Seth that she's pregnant, right? That she's pregnant. Yeah, but she didn't 47:41.370 --> 47:43.870 tell him that. Did she not? I don't think— no, no, because— no, because he 47:44.370 --> 47:47.650 says something about blending them. He does that a little later. Oh, shoot, 47:48.150 --> 47:51.810 sorry. Because when she runs out of there and, uh, and Stathis is like 47:52.310 --> 47:55.650 waiting in his Maserati like outside of the lab, and she's just like, get me 47:56.150 --> 47:58.090 to the hospital now, I don't want this shit in my body. Yeah, yeah, 47:58.590 --> 48:01.630 right. So they go to the, uh, they go to the doctor. 48:02.130 --> 48:04.450 She's all ready, like she's in the room and stuff, prepped in her robe. 48:05.228 --> 48:09.068 And we have our classic '80s glass block wall. Yes, that's right. Which is 48:09.116 --> 48:12.362 meant to be busted through. That's never staying. Commando, baby. 48:14.178 --> 48:18.030 So she's there to actually get her abortion, and Brundlefly busts 48:18.530 --> 48:22.588 Kool-Aid Man through the wall. Brundlefly! Oh yeah, 48:22.884 --> 48:26.369 oh yeah. And then he kidnaps her and he 48:26.869 --> 48:30.963 steals her. And this is super like King Kong, like old— it's a creature feature. 48:31.044 --> 48:34.313 This is a classic creature feature where it becomes a monster movie 48:34.346 --> 48:37.554 as opposed to like a sci-fi, like, for sure, what would happen with, you know. 48:37.715 --> 48:40.939 Yep. Um, and she's like horrified, right? 48:41.004 --> 48:44.501 She's like, don't, don't kill me, whatever. And he's like, oh, you know, I have 48:44.533 --> 48:47.437 the perfect plan. This is where he talks about— Oh, that's right, to blend them 48:47.485 --> 48:50.309 all together. Don't kill me, you know. He's like, why are we gonna kill my 48:50.809 --> 48:54.159 baby? Oh, he's saying don't kill me. Yeah, he's like, if you kill this baby, 48:54.239 --> 48:57.416 you kill me. That's the last thing that's left of Seth Brundle, 48:57.512 --> 49:00.931 right? And I don't know if he knows that it's the Brundlefly. 49:01.044 --> 49:04.528 I just think he's probably saying whatever he can to have her go through with 49:05.028 --> 49:07.466 it. And how much is he actually— how much is he actually understanding given his 49:07.563 --> 49:10.919 state and everything? But basically he wants to go do this, 49:10.935 --> 49:13.199 but they're like up on the roof or something, right? They're not at the lab. 49:13.263 --> 49:16.298 They're talking about something like a roof. And Stathis has come back to the lab 49:16.798 --> 49:19.172 figuring that's where he went. He's got a shotgun with him, so he's like putting 49:19.188 --> 49:22.415 a shotgun together and loading it and kind of looking around and all this stuff. 49:22.495 --> 49:26.530 And so then Brundlefly drops on him from above, 49:27.030 --> 49:30.570 right? And it's like, you know, he vomits his enzyme shit all 49:31.070 --> 49:34.610 over Stathis's hand, which just melts it away. I love that it turns into like 49:35.110 --> 49:38.130 sulfuric acid. Yeah, yeah, it's interesting. But I guess that's the whole point, right? 49:38.630 --> 49:41.690 It's a digestive goo. But then earlier, like, 49:42.190 --> 49:45.990 Brundlefly is just holding a donut in his own hand and puking 49:46.490 --> 49:49.610 onto it. Oh my God, I hadn't even thought of that. Oh, that's a 49:50.110 --> 49:53.310 good point. Maybe the enzyme's getting more and more acidic or something like that. 49:53.872 --> 49:57.629 Weird. When Stathis walks in, he walks in and he has like a case. 49:57.726 --> 50:00.967 Yeah. And he puts it on the table and he opens it, and Genie was 50:01.467 --> 50:02.709 like, oh, I hope it's just a big fly swatter. 50:04.886 --> 50:08.600 What I love is shotgun. You always see these, these, these assemble the 50:09.100 --> 50:12.233 rifle moments for like a sniper rifle, something. For a shotgun, it was just an 50:12.297 --> 50:16.114 interesting choice. Like, I don't know, it was weird. Um, but basically, 50:16.391 --> 50:19.894 so now they're fighting, and yeah, so Stathis has had his hand melted He like 50:20.394 --> 50:24.071 melts his foot off or something too, right? So he's struggling with Brundlefly, and Brundlefly 50:24.135 --> 50:27.846 like grabs his foot and just melts like his ankle off so that the 50:27.911 --> 50:31.702 foot detaches basically from the rest of the leg. Super gnarly. 50:31.782 --> 50:35.301 And I heard that in, uh, an early cut, like a scene that they cut 50:35.801 --> 50:38.433 out, the fly then like picked up his foot and like ate the foot. 50:38.514 --> 50:40.747 Oh my God, which gross. Didn't need it. 50:41.004 --> 50:43.590 Unnecessary. Unnecessary. 50:44.651 --> 50:47.973 So, so Brundlefly, uh, you know, wants to fuse. 50:48.405 --> 50:52.141 Yeah, he wants to fuse Veronica. He's like, me, you, and the baby will 50:52.173 --> 50:56.149 be more human than human. And a young Rob Zombie watching 50:56.181 --> 50:59.900 this said, hey man, that could be a shitty career. 51:00.734 --> 51:03.331 Um, actually a big White Zombie fan. So, 51:04.196 --> 51:07.322 so they're fun. You like, uh, what's the song about 51:07.822 --> 51:11.154 the spooky car? Oh, Dragula. Hell yeah, I love that 51:11.654 --> 51:14.760 song. Hell yeah, burn through the witches. No, I, 51:15.260 --> 51:17.700 I like Rob Zombie's movies. I like his music. I'll die on that. I do. 51:18.200 --> 51:21.880 I like Rob's movies. I like this movie. Um, so, so he's 51:22.380 --> 51:25.760 like, uh, so he's about to kill— he's about to kill Stathis. 51:26.160 --> 51:29.940 Veronica steps in, she's like, stop it. And he's like, help me become more 51:30.440 --> 51:33.960 human, right? We're gonna telepod together. I'm gonna go in this one, you go 51:34.460 --> 51:36.160 in the other one, and then they'll kind of come together in the third one. 51:36.660 --> 51:39.660 So it'll be me, you, the baby, and the fly too. But you know, 51:40.160 --> 51:43.186 we don't care about that. While she's She's struggling with him. She's kind of pushing 51:43.299 --> 51:46.220 him away. And this is like, uh, 51:46.574 --> 51:50.667 it maybe inspired, uh, Swayze's character in Road House where 51:51.167 --> 51:54.793 she just rips his entire jaw off. Mandible. And, and what we 51:55.293 --> 51:58.759 see is that, you know, his body is basically— his human body has basically become 51:58.855 --> 52:02.210 the cocoon for the fly to like hatch out of. Which is like not really 52:02.226 --> 52:05.020 what flies— I mean, I guess that's sort of how larvae turn into flies. 52:05.116 --> 52:07.829 I don't know, it's weird. It's, it, it, it's, it's strange. Here's the thing too. 52:07.942 --> 52:10.877 So if this is supposed to be half and half, why is the fly completely 52:10.910 --> 52:14.102 taking over the body? Like, why is the fly dominant over the 52:14.602 --> 52:17.022 human DNA? Yeah, you know, 52:17.247 --> 52:20.632 whatever. I'm looking for too many scientific reasonings here. It doesn't work. 52:20.712 --> 52:24.370 So this is really gross, right? The flesh falls off to reveal this horrible 52:24.870 --> 52:27.963 fly body here. Yeah, the weird little legs and everything. Yeah, God. And, 52:28.076 --> 52:31.332 and the way it moves. And he gets her into the telepod. 52:31.429 --> 52:34.440 Yeah. And he's about to go into the telepod, right? All of this is like 52:34.940 --> 52:38.260 barely moving, but he's able to right himself. He's able to balance 52:38.760 --> 52:41.480 the shotgun on his stump. Yeah, yeah. You know, and with the other hand, 52:41.980 --> 52:45.600 he shoots the power cord that's connected to Veronica's telepod. 52:46.100 --> 52:48.600 Right, which basically saves her from anything happening to her. Right, so she's not connected 52:49.100 --> 52:52.640 to this shit right now. And the counter's going down, and Brundlefly's trying to bust 52:53.140 --> 52:55.700 out of the pod that he's in. Yeah. 'Cause the counter's going down, he's not 52:56.200 --> 52:59.800 hooked to anything. Right. Uh, and what happens is, as the counter goes off, 53:00.300 --> 53:03.720 he's like just about busted out, but the door of the telepod is like inside 53:04.220 --> 53:07.485 there with him. Yeah. And he ends up getting fused Fused with parts of 53:07.581 --> 53:11.241 the metal, and we get this really fucking gruesome— 53:11.835 --> 53:15.897 you know, it's the baboon, right? Inside-out baboon plus 53:16.009 --> 53:19.878 like part of the door, pieces of the door. Why is the pod getting connected 53:20.378 --> 53:22.655 to him? Or why? Because if the pod gets connected to him here, why did 53:22.752 --> 53:25.898 everything— Should be the pod? Yeah, yeah, it's just— it's very strange. I think it's 53:26.398 --> 53:30.008 because it was open that, that some of it was like inside the, 53:30.153 --> 53:32.914 the enclosure of the pod or something like that. But yeah. Uh, 53:33.508 --> 53:37.186 weird, but gave us this like incredibly gruesome creature 53:37.202 --> 53:40.110 that comes out. Yeah, and we're now back to where I no longer find it 53:40.610 --> 53:43.772 gross because it's so alien and weird looking that it's like, who cares? 53:43.820 --> 53:46.117 It's when it's more human that it's grosser to me. This is The Thing-ish. 53:46.278 --> 53:50.759 This is exactly more like that. And, and basically Ronnie picks up the shotgun and, 53:50.936 --> 53:53.651 you know, is initially pointing it, but kind of it's like can't shoot him, 53:53.667 --> 53:57.891 which is bizarre, just whatever. And he sort of reaches up with his little proboscis 53:57.939 --> 54:00.905 or whatever the fuck Fly's leg, it's called. That's the mouth. But like, you know, 54:00.969 --> 54:04.398 points the gun at his own head. Yeah. And it's like, basically, this is 54:04.430 --> 54:08.004 the kill me, like, moment, right? And sure enough, she goes ahead and 54:08.116 --> 54:11.529 blows his head off with a shotgun and ends his suffering. Blows his head 54:11.577 --> 54:14.814 so far apart, you know? It's not like a bullet in the head. 54:14.862 --> 54:18.131 It's just an explosion of the fucking head. Well, yeah, he no longer has a 54:18.631 --> 54:22.121 skull, we have to assume, right? It's all exoskeleton. So once you breach that, 54:22.153 --> 54:25.374 it's all just goo inside. So yeah. Yeah. 54:25.967 --> 54:29.545 Yeah, so that is how The Fly ends. We've got a dead Brundlefly, 54:29.593 --> 54:32.914 we got Veronica there having just killed him, and we've got Stathis being 54:32.962 --> 54:36.203 like, hey, I know you're really upset by what you just did, but how about 54:36.251 --> 54:39.508 picking up the fucking phone? My arm melted off. I still have 54:39.540 --> 54:42.027 fly puke that's melting through my bone right now. 54:43.230 --> 54:47.337 So, uh, that is The Fly. That is an, an absolutely, 54:47.561 --> 54:51.171 uh, gruesome ending to an absolutely gruesome movie. So, uh, 54:51.780 --> 54:55.372 So this is my pick. Yeah. And I'm going to talk about this. Thanks for 54:55.872 --> 54:57.095 that, by the way. Hey, no problem. 55:00.080 --> 55:02.400 Body horror stuff is, is tough. 55:03.415 --> 55:06.944 But going into this, you know, it's like it's a movie that's 55:07.444 --> 55:10.870 meant to make you feel uncomfortable. Like it wants you looking away at the 55:11.370 --> 55:15.257 gross parts and stuff. And, and that's, you know, a very Cronenberg 55:15.757 --> 55:19.741 thing. One movie that he did called Exit 55:20.241 --> 55:22.660 Extends is kind of like the maggot scene as an entire movie. Yeah. Like, 55:22.740 --> 55:26.383 he's just like has this real fucking gross, but there's something about 55:26.883 --> 55:30.074 it that just like it sticks with you. And this movie has really, 55:30.363 --> 55:33.717 uh, really stuck with me. I like this movie a lot. I really liked, 55:33.973 --> 55:38.162 um, Goldblum. Uh, I think the, the practical effects 55:38.662 --> 55:42.270 were incredibly well done. Uh, nothing was distracting, 55:42.334 --> 55:45.710 nothing looked like shit. I'm glad they didn't use like computer 55:46.210 --> 55:49.320 effects before they were any good. Last Starfighter. That kind of thing. 55:49.330 --> 55:53.090 Yeah, exactly. Oh, I did read, uh, originally considered 55:53.590 --> 55:57.230 for the role, uh, I think offered the role was John Lithgow, 55:57.730 --> 56:00.290 which would have been very weird. Very different. Different kind of movie. Yeah, yeah. 56:00.790 --> 56:04.570 Um, would have been interesting to see him with whatever body double do the gymnastics 56:05.070 --> 56:07.470 athletic stuff. I don't think it would have been as convincing. Even a young Lithgow, 56:07.970 --> 56:10.870 like, it wouldn't have been as convincing. Yeah, poor Lithgow's been bald since he was 56:11.370 --> 56:14.551 like 22 years old. I have that in common with John Lithgow. 56:15.884 --> 56:19.159 But this movie, I thought, you know, kind of classic, 56:19.240 --> 56:21.792 like monster movie, Frankenstein thing. 56:22.852 --> 56:26.223 Interesting concept. I like Goldblum. It was only like an hour and a half, 56:26.256 --> 56:30.141 an hour 36 or something like that. And I really 56:30.237 --> 56:33.882 did. I had a good time watching this one. I would 56:33.930 --> 56:37.253 revisit this one for sure. Hmm. And I think it's a 56:37.317 --> 56:41.533 classic for a reason. It's tough to watch in a lot of parts, but the 56:42.033 --> 56:45.471 stupid stuff was outweighed by the cool stuff for me. I am a 4.5 for 56:45.971 --> 56:48.486 The Fly. I really like The Fly. OK. 56:50.008 --> 56:52.552 I did not enjoy watching this movie. 56:53.248 --> 56:56.406 And I struggle a little bit with coming up with a score 56:56.906 --> 57:01.612 because there's kind of like— there are 2 flies within me fighting. And in 57:01.708 --> 57:04.456 one way, I can look at this and say, well, I can appreciate this sort 57:04.956 --> 57:07.982 of achievement in makeup and special effects. I can appreciate the originality and creativity of 57:07.998 --> 57:11.400 the premise. Right? Like, I can celebrate these things. 57:11.848 --> 57:15.119 Um, these are all fine actors. I didn't think any of the acting was 57:15.151 --> 57:18.197 particularly good in this. The writing left a lot to be desired. Like, there were 57:18.697 --> 57:21.404 a lot of the kind of like movie components that to me, that's kind of 57:21.904 --> 57:25.219 like, yeah, I didn't, I didn't care for those. And then there's just the general 57:25.251 --> 57:27.624 experience I had of watching the movie, um, 57:28.041 --> 57:31.247 really not enjoying my time doing so. Not a movie I'm 57:31.747 --> 57:34.646 gonna watch again. Not one I can recommend to people. Yeah. I can talk about 57:35.146 --> 57:37.837 it intelligently now and say, yeah, I understand what it is. I understand why some 57:38.337 --> 57:41.541 people are way into it. I'm not gonna like fault anybody else like considering this 57:42.041 --> 57:43.820 a good movie or giving it a high score or anything like that. To each 57:43.852 --> 57:47.365 their own. But for me, the reality is like, why have a 57:47.865 --> 57:51.120 podcast where I give ratings to movies other than to give my opinion 57:51.136 --> 57:54.601 on them? Of course. Obviously. Uh, and I fucking hated watching this movie. Okay. 57:54.794 --> 57:58.372 So, um, I'm gonna give it 1 point, and I would go lower, 57:58.436 --> 58:02.078 but I have to give some respect to the artistic effects that went 58:02.578 --> 58:05.335 into creating it. That's where the 1 point comes from, because if I, if I 58:05.835 --> 58:08.079 could justify a 0, I probably would have done it, but I just kind of 58:08.159 --> 58:11.917 couldn't. Like, there's, there's there's too much craft 58:12.417 --> 58:15.998 and art that went into making something I hated that I can still respect some 58:16.047 --> 58:18.360 of the craft and art. But like, really, this is not a movie I can 58:18.860 --> 58:21.718 recommend anyone. This is not a movie that I'll watch again. I didn't care for 58:22.218 --> 58:25.510 the experience. Uh, it's not what I look to for a movie. I think it's 58:26.010 --> 58:28.498 kind of— Cronenberg to you is like Kevin Smith to me. It seems like maybe. 58:28.578 --> 58:31.261 And so, and I'm sure we'll do more Cronenbergs. I know we'll do more Smiths, 58:31.293 --> 58:33.816 and we'll see how often that holds up. But like, yeah, I am a 1 58:33.928 --> 58:37.477 out of 5, uh, on, on, uh, on the fly. I feel like 58:37.977 --> 58:41.249 this is an exact ratings flip-flop from our Mallrats experience. Yeah, I think 58:41.749 --> 58:45.342 that's right. Yeah. But yeah, this is just— I, I just didn't 58:45.842 --> 58:48.681 like it. So I'm a 1 out of 5. Puts us at 5.5 out of 58:48.713 --> 58:52.308 10 as a combination that will also add it to our Contrarian Corner, 58:52.388 --> 58:56.160 where films that we really disagree as a collective, at least with the 58:56.660 --> 59:01.377 critics, along with Thief, which I also dragged down with my inability 59:01.877 --> 59:04.908 to get over fucking Tangerine Dream's score in that one. But that's okay. This is 59:04.924 --> 59:08.116 what it is. Um, so yeah, 5.5 out of 10. And I think we have 59:08.616 --> 59:12.336 one more Shocktoberfest movie. Yeah, what, what are we doing? How are we scaring ourselves 59:12.368 --> 59:15.817 with this final movie of Shocktoberfest? We got one more week 59:16.317 --> 59:19.122 of October, and I'm gonna go a little more traditional horror, kind of like this 59:19.622 --> 59:21.192 one. Like I said, we started off with The Burbs and with Seven where, 59:21.208 --> 59:23.839 you know, they're adjacent to the horror thing, and then this was like true horror, 59:23.855 --> 59:27.369 body horror, creature feature thing. We're gonna go very, very legit 59:27.689 --> 59:29.807 kind of mainstream horror film for our last one. 59:30.819 --> 59:34.640 In my opinion, I think I'm gonna go ahead and say it, although maybe 59:34.672 --> 59:37.916 somebody will come and correct me, but I think probably the best slasher film of 59:38.416 --> 59:42.106 the '90s. Uh, you know, it's after the sort of slasher real heyday 59:42.235 --> 59:44.948 of the '70s and '80s where a lot of the greats were created. Um, 59:44.965 --> 59:48.866 but this is a Wes Craven joint from, I think, 1997. Uh, it is 59:49.300 --> 59:52.640 one of the best movies, in my opinion, that skewers 59:52.672 --> 59:56.492 its own genre as a parody and a satire. That's interesting about 59:56.588 --> 59:59.972 also being a fantastic representation of the actual genre itself, 01:00:00.116 --> 01:00:03.083 right? So it's not like a comedy coming out of sci-fi and making fun of 01:00:03.583 --> 01:00:06.307 it. Like, Spaceballs is a great satire of sci-fi but is itself not a great 01:00:06.807 --> 01:00:10.332 sci-fi movie. Yeah, right. It's in that setting, whatever. This is— we're gonna watch Scream. 01:00:10.476 --> 01:00:13.571 We're gonna watch Neve Campbell and Courteney Cox, David Arquette, 01:00:13.844 --> 01:00:17.340 and Skeet Ulrich, and Matthew Lillard. I mean, the people in this— Jamie Kennedy, 01:00:17.757 --> 01:00:21.077 freaking Drew Barrymore. Like, there's so many people in this movie that are just fantastic. 01:00:21.125 --> 01:00:24.572 Like, these sort of young actors. Yeah, a lot of great 01:00:25.072 --> 01:00:27.922 people that we haven't seen yet. Um, Scream is the movie, and yeah, it really 01:00:28.034 --> 01:00:31.545 is not only a great sort of satire of the slasher genre 01:00:32.045 --> 01:00:35.408 in so many ways, it is itself a fantastic slasher movie with one of the 01:00:35.908 --> 01:00:38.887 best slasher villains certainly that was created in the '90s. Uh, 01:00:39.015 --> 01:00:42.350 this probably Ghostface killer is probably iconic, right? That, 01:00:42.446 --> 01:00:45.877 uh, the mask and like how many sequels it spawned and how many 01:00:46.053 --> 01:00:49.320 like scary Scary movie wouldn't exist if it weren't for 01:00:49.820 --> 01:00:53.480 Scream, which itself is like a 5 or 6 movie genre. So yeah, 01:00:53.980 --> 01:00:57.360 that's really nuts. Uh, I don't think I've seen Scream since it came 01:00:57.860 --> 01:01:00.700 out. Okay, okay. I, I think I saw it in the theater because like that 01:01:01.200 --> 01:01:04.440 was the time, dude, when we were probably just old enough to go see an 01:01:04.940 --> 01:01:07.160 R-rated movie in the theater and it was a big deal to go see it. 01:01:07.660 --> 01:01:11.080 Yes. Uh, so I'm fucking excited to, to revisit this one. That's fantastic. I think 01:01:11.580 --> 01:01:13.400 I saw it in college first. Wouldn't have been in the theater for me. 01:01:13.510 --> 01:01:16.100 I, you know, but then it was, I think, like 10 years ago I revisited 01:01:16.600 --> 01:01:19.480 it because my wife Heather, who's generally not a big horror movie fan, loves this 01:01:19.980 --> 01:01:22.840 movie. Okay. And she and I will quote, I'm getting woozy here, man, like over 01:01:23.340 --> 01:01:25.900 and over again to each other for whatever reason. That has stuck with us. 01:01:26.400 --> 01:01:30.140 But yeah, so next week we'll watch Scream and that'll wrap up Shocktoberfest 2: 01:01:30.640 --> 01:01:33.980 Electric Boogaloo. Hell yeah. All right, that's a wrap. If you like what you hear, 01:01:34.020 --> 01:01:37.560 please consider heading over to Apple or Spotify and leaving us a 5-star review. 01:01:37.720 --> 01:01:40.462 It helps new folks find the show. Be sure to check out our website at 01:01:40.962 --> 01:01:44.527 twodads1movie.com. That's the number 2 and the number 1. There you can explore the movies 01:01:44.559 --> 01:01:47.772 we've covered, sign up for our newsletter, The Rewind, and even get sneak previews of 01:01:48.272 --> 01:01:51.676 upcoming episodes. Once again, this has been The Fly, another episode of 2 Dads 01:01:51.709 --> 01:01:54.440 1 Movie. I'm Steve. 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