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Intro Clip

Hey, pal, how about a beer? Hey, put that on my tab. That was quite a show you put on today, Gilmore. You were the talk of the tournament. Wow, thanks a lot. Yeah, well, you really crushed that ball off the tee. I'll tell you what. You know, you'd be something at one. Of those long drive contests. Yeah, you could probably make a very good living traveling around, hustling at driving ranges. Thanks, Phil. That's. That's. That's. You know, I know what you're doing right now and I don't like it. So why don't you just shut your trap before I put my foot in it? Don't turn your back on me. Let's get one thing straight. This is Shooter's tour. I've worked hard my whole life, paid my dues, and now it's Shooter's turn. And Shooter's not about to let his reign at the top be spoiled by some freak sideshow clown. Did you just call me a freak? I was on this tour for one reason. Money. But now I got a new reason. Kicking your ass. Well, I'd like to see you try. Let's do it. Hey. I met on a golf course. Hey. Hey. What is going on here? Huh? Oh, I was just looking for the other half of this bottle and. Oh, there's some of it right. There's some right there too. Why don't you just put it down? Yeah, I know. Just stay out of my way or you'll pay. Listen to what I say. How about I just go eat some hay? I can make things out of clay. And lay by the bay. I just may. What do you say?

Steve

It's 2 Dads 1 movie. It's the podcast where two middle aged dads sit around and sh. Shoot the. About the movies of the 80s and 90s. Here are your hosts, Steve Paulo and Nic Briana. Hello everybody. It's 2Dads1Movie. Welcome to another episode. I'm Steve.

Nic

And I'm Nic.

Steve

And today we are Talking about the 1996 Adam Sandler vehicle, Happy Gilmore. All right, I'm super excited to talk about Happy Gilmore. One of the reasons that we're doing Happy Gilmore is that if you are listening, if today is the day this episode came out, Then guess what? Two days from now, Happy Gilmore 2 comes out. So you can listen to our show, maybe rewatch Happy Gilmore if you haven't already reading up leading up to this, and then get ready for the sequel, which, you know, I'm just hoping doesn't suck horribly.

Nic

Yeah, our standards are kind of low. For sequels, like, for us to not hate them and just, like, stay above that.

Steve

Just. Yeah. You know, a little fan service is wonderful. You know, reference the original material, of course, but give us, like, something reasonable. Right.

Nic

Something new. Don't be that Sopranos movie or anything like that.

Steve

We will worry about that later, though. Today we're going to talk about the original. Original. We're going to talk about the hockey player who couldn't skate, who had to turn to golf. So this was my pick. I'll just real quick, like Happy Gilmore, I think for Nic. And I talked to this earlier for guys our age, you know, I was 16 when this came out. You know, in the mid-90s, teenage boys couldn't not love Adam Sandler. Right. We all watched him on Saturday Night Live and then, you know, as he broke into the world of film with Billy Madison and this and Water Boy and, you know, the Wedding Singer. So many movies, you. The guy really kind of ruled comedy in the 90s, you know, much the way Will Ferrell would do. So a decade later, in the early 2000s, Adam, this was his time in so many ways. And so this was just a movie I watched a ton. I'm sure I saw it the day it came out opening weekend kind of movie. Watched it, you know, owned it on. I probably owned this on VHS and on DVD and then later on digitally and everything and just watched it a ton. I've probably seen this movie 50 or 60 times, honestly.

Nic

Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is a good one. And, you know, we're the same age, we grew up in the same town. Like, we have the same experience with this. We probably, at one point, maybe Steve and I grabbed for the same copy of Happy Gilmore on the Blockbuster shelves.

Steve

You know, the one on CRO Canyon Road. Exactly.

Nic

So, yeah, I watched this, you know, in high school, college, someone always had it on vhs. It was a great one to throw in because you could watch, like, any chunk of this movie and enjoy it, basically.

Steve

Yeah.

Nic

Eminently quotable. I mean, there's so much that comes from this that if you don't watch it all the time, you realize things that you and your friends say in everyday life that have just become part of your regular vocabulary. And you realize, oh, that's from this.

Steve

Yeah.

Nic

You know, the way that we all say this thing originated from this movie. And it was very influential. I remember I had a streak because I love Billy Madison.

Steve

Sure.

Nic

And I had a time where I thought, you know, oh, like, Happy, he kind of like, it got worse after Billy Madison.

Steve

Okay.

Nic

Because Billy Madison is so like off the wall and like weirdly dark in certain areas that I think is very funny. But watching this, I'm like, this has a lot of it. This is just kind of the, Hey, I want more people to watch my stuff. Elevation of Billy Madison.

Steve

Yeah, this. Yeah. Madison was so absurdist in its comedy, which is great. I mean, that's. You and I are both Tim Robinson fans. We love absurdism. But you. This was clearly a reach for Adam. Not a reach, but like it was an attempt by Sandler to. To do something a little more mainstream. A little. That would be a little more popular. Like overall, obviously tying it to a very popular sport and everything. You know, that, that, that helps. But it's still Adam Sandler and it's still goofy in the right ways and it's still dark in a few places for sure. And, you know, it definitely still hits those notes and it feels very authentic. I think, you know, you have to get a ways through Adam Sandler's career to get to where he has that bad lull of like, I am absolutely going to phone in a bunch of bullshit movies like Couples Retreat and stuff like that. The beginning was very honestly him and I think more recently, very recently in the films he's done. Yeah, very honestly him in such a different ways. I mean, you know, uncut gems compared to like Happy. But, you know, but it's still very honestly him. It's more of his punch truck love, you know, sort of.

Nic

Right, right.

Steve

And so, yeah, but I mean, but you know, let's stick with. This is early Sandler. This is sort of goofy Sandler. I think he was 30 when he made this movie. And you know, this is. This is Adam.

Nic

Such a fun one. Well, you got some facts for us about. About Happy Gilmore here.

Steve

I do indeed. So this came out right around Valentine's Day, actually. As it turns out. February 16, 1996. With a PG13 rating. Happy Gilmore has a running time of 92 minutes. It was directed by Dennis Dugan, written by the writing team of Tim Herlihy and Adam Sandler, who wrote a lot of these Sandler vehicles.

Nic

Very nice.

Steve

Starring Adam Sandler, Christopher McDonald and Julie Bowen. Scores Rotten Tomatoes. The critics give the 63% which I think is fairly respectable. It is a fresh score. You know, you wouldn't expect super high marks for. For happy Gilmore on IMDb. A solid 7.0. This is clearly something that fans are fun enjoy quite a bit. The movie did win an award in the 1996 and by this time they were Calling them the MTV Movie and TV Awards.

Nic

Okay.

Steve

Basically, the successor to the MTV Movie Awards. This movie won best fight between Adam Sandler and Bob Barker.

Nic

Hey. Well deserved. I think this was a good one.

Steve

Absolutely. On a $12 million budget, the film took in 41.4, $4 million. The box office for a 3.4, 3.5x. It's right on that borderline between was it just a success or was it a blockbuster? You know, and it's sort of right in that. Right in between those two. And then. Yeah, like that. Those are the facts. Those are the facts about Happy Gilmore.

Nic

Okay, well, yeah, this one. I. I love this intro. Maybe, Steve, you could take us through how this movie starts off, because right. This hammers you right away with so much funny stuff.

Steve

It really is fantastic. It's so it's basically, it starts off and it's almost, you know, Super 8 film. It actually, even in the screen, it kind of cuts piece of the. Of the screen out. So we're not getting the full, you know, visual effect of. Of like we were in the movie theater, for instance. And it's a voiceover from Happy, and he's kind of telling us about his childhood while Leonard Skynyrd's Tuesday Is Gone plays in the background. Fantastic song. It's an instrumental version. There's no lyrics, but. But, you know, it's this great backstory telling us all about how much Happy's dad loved hockey and took him to see hockey and. And taught him how to play hockey, even though he never quite figured out how to skate. I don't know how anybody could do as much hockey as Happy obviously did without ever learning to skate, but that's okay. But, you know, he loved hockey so much, but Happy's dad did that. Happy's mom left and just left them both. And so then he is. He is alone with his dad, but his dad keeps taking him to games until one day, slap shot comes off the ice and goes right at Happy's dad and. And apparently takes him out.

Nic

Yeah, it just. It just shows the shot coming towards him, and then it just goes to after the funeral.

Steve

Right, Exactly. It's like. So Happy has to go live with his grandma, who he was nervous to go see because he never didn't really know her very well, wasn't really familiar with her, but she makes him feel better by wearing, he said, he says, dressing up like Gene Simmons, although it is just the mask with the ridiculously long tongue. You know, she's not wearing the boots or the. Or the. Get up the cape or anything else. But, you know, she does try to make him feel at home. And we get a sense obviously right away that, you know, granny is awesome. Yeah, Happy's grandma. And so, yeah, so there's that. And then he gives us a little bit, you know, kind of since then. Oh, he mentions, of course, playing junior hockey when he was in high school where he own. He has two records. It doesn't say if they're like state or world or what, but they're records of penalty minutes. The guy is obviously getting in a lot of trouble and he's the only guy to ever take off his skate and try to stab somebody with it, which you kind of. You got to hold on to what you can.

Nic

So there's a, there's a scene there where it's showing kind of a shaggy haired teenage Adam Sandler, Happy Gilmore, really looking good. And they're, they're getting in for their team photo for their junior hockey thing. And he can't skate and he like falls so badly that he knocks the little sign that's in front of them to like say the name of the team over there. And the look on his face, like the furious like huffing and puffing and he's so mad look on his face. And the picture is such. That's what Adam Sandler does. He does this like cartoonish anger. So much better than, than everyone. So I really love that.

Steve

It's absolutely fantastic. So, so it's a great. Tells us about some jobs that he's had. You know, basically just he hasn't worked a lot of like legit career since high school. He's, he's been. And in every one of his jobs he has something nearby that he can stick between his legs and thrust. Like his penis. Yeah, I'm not thrust my. Including the nightstick. When he's a security guard.

Nic

Right.

Steve

It's right up to his. You know, this is an HR violation. He puts right up to his coworker's face. And that's just. I don't care if it's not actually your, your johnson. That's not good. Not a good idea.

Nic

But yeah, he's a janitor, so he uses the mop. He's a construction worker. Uses one of those road cone things. Security guy who worked at a gas station. And he sticks the. Yeah, the pump between his legs and sprays it out real dangerous.

Steve

Come on, Happy. That's the gasoline.

Nic

But all those hit very well. So it's like laugh, laugh, laugh, laugh. Before you're into any of the real action of the movie.

Steve

Absolutely. And then the last one he says he's worked construction was sort of lasting. He did. And he shows him sort of like doing a shooting exhibition for his co workers with the nail gun, knocking beer cans off this ledge until Mr. Larson, his foreman, walks by.

Nic

Yes.

Steve

And of course, Mr. Larson is played by the wonderful Richard Keel, who played Jaws in the James Bond film Moonraker and who stands 7 foot 2. So he is quite a bit. So you know, where they had the cans was actually pretty reasonably placed. Most human beings are walking by and it's way above their heads.

Nic

Yeah. You're not worried about that.

Steve

Mr. Larson takes a nail into the helmet, which we'll get into that later. But he does take a nail into his. Into his hard hat, which Happy is. Is gets into a fight and gets hospitalized. And this is all still in the flashback. Yeah, this is none of this. So we're still.

Nic

It's spliced together like kind of home video type.

Steve

Yeah, exactly. So. So, yeah, but that's. I think that that kind of brings us up, right?

Nic

Yeah.

Steve

This little bit.

Nic

Yeah, yeah. So really funny intro and the. The music. It like. It was just the perfect blend because it was just like kind of the beginning of the wonder years, this nostalgic montage of home video footage. But every single chunk of it had a joke to it. It was very funny. And now we're brought to present day and they're doing tryouts for the local, I don't know, junior semi pro.

Steve

Not going to be whatever semi pro because. Because he's now in his 30s. They even say, is that. Is that Gilmore again? How many times he tried out? 10 is like the 10th time. So, yeah, you know, he's like 30 because he's been trying out every year since he was like 19 or 20 years old. So. And I love this moment. There's this moment where he is. You're not able to ski. The two coaches are talking. They're looking at him, at the whole team through the glass. And he's not a very good skater. Oh, yeah. But what a shot, you know, And Happy winds up and just slap shot so hard that it actually he misses the goal, but it shatters the glass in front of the coaches and they're just so impressed. But like, obviously, you know, he doesn't. Not only is he not skate, apparently can't aim very well either.

Nic

Right.

Steve

What I love though is that when they cut back to the coaches, a tenth of a second later, the glass is back in front of them. You can see the reflection of the rest of the ice.

Nic

That's how quick they replaced.

Steve

That's very fast. Very fast.

Nic

Yeah. So Happy, despite his impressive slap shot and, you know, demonstrating that he would be the worst teammate. Skater, everything else, you know, but he doesn't get called. So out of. Out of 28 guys that audition for this team. 25.

Steve

Yeah. It looked like maybe three guys don't get picked. Yeah.

Nic

So Happy doesn't get in. He's. He's pissed.

Steve

And, you know, he's a sad man. So.

Nic

Yeah, so he's had a bad day, and he's coming back to his apartment and kind of crosses paths with his girlfriend in the elevator. And he's just kind of like, hey, like, I had a really bad day. What's going on? She's like, nothing. You're a loser. Basically, like, I'm out of here. And. And she leaves him. So on top of not making the team after his 10th attempt, when he. I'm sure he thought he was gonna make it. And now his girlfriend is out of there. And very funny scene where he's at the intercom talking to the front door as she's walking out, trying to catch a. Wait, wait, wait, wait. And she hears him, and they're kind of talking a little back and forth. And he keeps, you know, apologizing, then getting mad again, and then apologizing for getting mad. Great scene.

Steve

Funny. But also for anyone listening, big red flag. If someone you're in a relationship with is. Is yelling at you and then apologizing and yelling at you. That is an abusive mentality. Watch out.

Nic

Yeah, yeah. No, it's.

Steve

And.

Nic

And he has this behavior the whole way, and it just seems to bother other people later in the movie, which is like. But he ends up trying to serenade her, and he's singing this song. The night closes in, and it shows this little kid standing outside, kind of, like, looking at it.

Steve

The girlfriend's gone while he's licking the intercom. Licking the intercom. That is nasty behavior.

Nic

Yeah. At least he's just licking the one that's in his apartment. Not the public one.

Steve

But that's a rental, though, man. He doesn't own that place.

Nic

And then you kind of see this older Asian woman standing there. And then there's a knock at his door, and he's like, oh, good, she came back.

Steve

Terry came back.

Nic

And he opens the door and she's standing there, and he's just kind of like, what? When he gets up in the morning, I think he Gets a phone call from his grandmother.

Steve

He answers the phone. He has to get dressed real quick. He just throws his boots on real quick and heads out the door. And we're left. Very funny. Just very quick moment of that same elderly Asian woman from the night before who's clearly had a shower and is wearing one of his hockey jerseys, comes out of the kitchen. Hey, you don't want breakfast?

Nic

So good. And that's classic Sandler, Billy Madison kind of like goofball humor where it's just.

Steve

It's also the joke. Cut. Setup. Yes, Right where you put the joke right before you cut to the next scene. There's no response to the joke. The joke is just done and then we've moved on. So do blink. You might miss it.

Nic

He goes to his grandmother's house. He sees that there are these guys like moving her stuff. House. And he comes to find out after talking to them that grandma is basically getting booted from her house. Her house is going to go to auction in. Is it 30 days?

Steve

No, 90. 90 days. Yeah.

Nic

Yeah. And because she owes $270,000 in taxes to the IRS.

Steve

To the IRS? Federal income tax.

Nic

Federal income tax to the irs. And it says that she hasn't paid her taxes in 10 years. And he asks, well, grandma, why didn't you pay your taxes? She said, because I didn't have any money.

Steve

Right.

Nic

This is where we got to come in here.

Steve

All right, so listener, just so in case you're not aware, my co host, Nic is a professional tax accountant. Go ahead, Nic.

Nic

So look, as much as people would like to tell you otherwise, you're only assessed income tax when you're earning income.

Steve

Right.

Nic

So it means that if she has this $270,000 in tax due, then she would have like some multiple of that associated, you know, of income. And I went through the tax rate tables. Just assuming this went from like 1985 to 1994 where she wasn't paying her taxes and figured out like approximately what she would make each year to accrue 27 grand per year. I know there's penalties and interest and all this stuff. I feel like this guy would have said, plus penalties or anyway, she would have earned over this ten year period, just shy of a million bucks. Like $990,000.

Steve

Over a hundred grand. Almost a hundred grand a year.

Nic

Yeah.

Steve

That's crazy.

Nic

Living in Connecticut in the 80s and 90s, right. In a house that grandpa built with his own hand. She has no mortgage.

Steve

No mortgage, Property taxes.

Nic

I don't know what their Prop 19 type situation is in Connecticut. But even if it's being reassessed at fair value every year and the house is worth 270 grand or 300 grand, her property taxes are like 5 or 6 grand a year at the high end.

Steve

Yeah. Yeah.

Nic

So grandma either somehow managed to work for a startup and only get stock options every year that she was taxed on under W2 and then the value went to zero the next year and she was, wasn't able to.

Steve

Which wouldn't be optional. That would have to be restricted stocking RSUs. Yeah.

Nic

Or she has some kind of secret problem. Maybe this like happy place that we're shown later where she's winning all this money on a slot machine. The reason he envisions it is because he, all he remembers is his grandma pumping money into slot machines and nothing coming out.

Steve

The constant sound of like the, the, the dials and the slot machine going just haunts his dreams and it's very conscious for him. That's possible.

Nic

So I would say that it's. Forget about the fact that the IRS, A is not going to wait 10 years to act on something like this. B is probably not going to take your primary residence out from under you. You can always work out a deal with them.

Steve

Yeah.

Nic

So, yeah. I don't, I don't understand how this worked. If she was earning income in some way she didn't know, like investment income, there would be underlying assets to sell. She wouldn't have to sell her house. So.

Steve

Interesting.

Nic

I call bullshit on this.

Steve

I mean, they're only giving her the option to sell it. They're just repossessing it and then auctioning it themselves.

Nic

Which is so weird because she should have a chance to sell it for the. Give them the proceeds.

Steve

Exactly. Or, and hopefully for her sake, sell it for more than. And then have some profit to live off of then. Right. It's all very strange.

Nic

Right. So that, that's my little tax aside. We can, you can stop fast forwarding now.

Steve

Yeah, exactly. Come back to us, everybody. But yeah, I, I thank you for that. I did actually wonder about that and, and thought you would be the right person to ask Nic. So the other thing I want to mention. So Will Sasso of Mad TV fame is one of the two movers that is pulling stuff out of grandma's house. Love, Will. Very funny guy. But when he, when Happy first shows up, he runs into the house and, and the two movers are trying to carry a couch and he like jumps.

Nic

I love that.

Steve

Right. To keep them from at which point the other, not Will Sasso, the other mover goes so like, hey, kid, come on. And I'm like, kid? He's like a receding hairline to 30 year old. Why are we calling him Kid? There's a couple times when people in this movie call him kid, and I never noticed it before, I think because I watched it as a kid originally and it just kind of always flew past me. Why would you refer to this grown man as kid?

Nic

That's super funny. Especially he's not older than those guys.

Steve

No. Those guys also look like they're like late 20s to early 30s. Ballpark. Right? It's very strange.

Nic

So grandma's gonna have to get moved to a nursing home while these movers are there, right?

Steve

She has no money. He has no money. She has this tax bill. Nobody's got any money. Who's paying for her to live in a retirement home?

Nic

They have retirement homes that you can living off, like Medicare. That. And they suck. I mean, this is like an accurate. Like, this is like where Abe Simpson is.

Steve

Good to know, but scary.

Nic

Yeah, so they definitely have them. But. And you know what? It. It wasn't as commoditized back then as it is now, so it wasn't common that everyone's paying 12 grand a month to live in, like something that smells like pee.

Steve

My uncle is in a place that is not cheap. But.

Nic

Yeah, no, this is. A lot of my job is. Is helping people with that stuff. So. Yeah, but she's in this nursing home and it's kind of, you know, the free one or the cheap one. So it's. It's very shady. And we get treated to her, I guess the attendant there, one of the nurses, whatever.

Steve

Ben Stiller refers to him as an orderly. But yeah, Ben Stiller plays Hal, the. The evil Hal El. Which is supposed to be like a.

Nic

Hell reference, I guess, because he's like, you're in my world now. And he points to his. Points to his name tag.

Steve

Thought maybe it was an Islamophobic thing, like it's halal or something. But maybe not.

Nic

It might be, though.

Steve

So.

Nic

So happy. Dr. Grandma at this place is like, hey, tells the orderly, ben Stiller, I want you to take good care of her. And tries to bribe him with the dollar bill.

Steve

Yeah, yeah.

Nic

And he's like, hey, you know, put that away. Like, I'm gonna take good care of her for free. And then the second he leaves, Grandma says to Hal, like, could I trouble you for a glass of water? And this is one of our best Lines. You could trouble me for a glass to shut the hell up.

Steve

You're in my world now, granny.

Nic

So good. So good.

Steve

Yeah. He turns immediately. The second Happy leaves the room. He is like, just flips on the evil. For sure.

Nic

Yep. So then Happy's back at the house, and the movers are taking a break and hitting some golf balls.

Steve

Right.

Nic

Loose. Into a neighborhood. Right.

Steve

Which looks like. With Happy's grandpa's clubs. Right. Because it's the same clubs used later. So, like, they found them in the act of moving things out of the house or taking it away.

Nic

Yeah.

Steve

And decided. Yeah. To take a break and just hit a ball. And Sasso is the one to actually hit initially. And I'm terrible at golf. Every. I want to say this every time I watch a movie or a TV show or watch golf on tv. As soon as I see the golf course, I think I was like, God, this looks amazing. This looks like I would love doing this. You know, we're watching the show stick on Apple TV right now. And it's about golf as well. And it's just like, oh, my God. And then every time I get out on a golf course or a driving range or anywhere besides mini golf, I hate it. I can't swing right. I don't hit the thing. Like, whatever. And I still look better than Will Sasso taking this shot.

Nic

Like, he can do an impression of everything except for a golfer.

Steve

Oh, my God. It was just the ugliest sort of swing. I mean, it's just the most. And of course, yeah, it goes. It goes five feet in front of him. The old joke he did, he didn't get past the ladies tees right. Kind of thing. And yet he still, you know, when Happy makes fun of him, goes, oh, you know, if you hit it past. If you hit your ball past mine, we'll go right back to work. You know, you watch your stupid hockey game or whatever, and it's like, buddy, you could use a pool cue and hit it further than that ball went. Like, that wouldn't even be difficult. But of course, Happy does not use a pool cue. He uses a driver. And he does not just hit it past Will Sasso's ball. He hits it, like, 400 yards down the street.

Nic

Yep.

Steve

And. And breaks a window of this house that. Yes. It's like 400 years. And it really is probably even further than that. Really. The way that the fly cam sort of right. Follows the.

Nic

I know it looks like.

Steve

Looks like a lot further than that, but that's okay. It's movie Magic. But yeah, he does. One breaks a window. The, the, the other mover says, oh, man, you. No, no way. The beginner's luck. No way you could do that again. 20 bucks you can't do it again. So he does it again and he hits the homeowner who's come outside the front door looking for like, what happened to his window. And then he's like, one more time, double or nothing. And this time he hits the lady who is looking through what had been the shattered window. Yeah. And then is hit with the golf ball and falls out the window and rolls down her, her, her roof onto the ground, potentially causing really serious damage, if not death. So Happy may have killed somebody here. We're not 100.

Nic

Sure a great job. This is a good sandler thing of like raising the stakes in a joke and like making it like dark at the end in like, you know, more is happening. So, yeah, really funny. And he's like, okay, like, pay up, let's get back to work. And then he realizes like, oh, I just made a little cash hitting a golf ball. Let me see what I can do.

Steve

Yeah.

Nic

And he goes to the driving range.

Steve

Right, country club or whatever. Yeah.

Nic

And he's there and he says, all right, step right up. Come see if you can out drive the amazing golf ball hitter guy.

Steve

The golf ball guy.

Nic

Whacker is.

Steve

He says, he does say out drive. So he knows that it's called like a drive or using a driver. And yet he goes, golf ball whacker guy. Oh my God. And yeah, so he, he, you know, hits it and then a few, you know, spaces down on the driving range from where Happy is, is, you know, one of our sort of supporting stars of this film. Kind of the first of the maybe four biggest characters in the movie that we're being introduced to besides Happy, which is Chubbs. Yes, Chubbs Peterson, played by the incomparable Carl Weathers. And he is like coaching or whatever, this woman, middle aged woman who's doing worse than Will Sasser, frankly, just can't even hit the ball. And all he's sitting there reading golf die, just going, that's good, good job, keep going. But he hears, you know, and he hears that the drive Happy hits. He sees how far the ball goes and his eyes light up and he's like, oh, boy, this guy's got something. So when he first stands up, he is keeping his hands behind his back and he really has to, because this is the third movie we've watched where someone is missing part of an arm or Hand or whatever. With the fugitive, with the one armed man. We had army of Darkness with ash replacement. And now Chubbs Peterson's missing his hand. But, God, the makeup wardrobe work on him is not good. His arm is so long that he really. I mean, you know, to Carl Weathers, there's a credit. He spends most of the time when he's standing holding his hands behind his back, which is like a fairly natural looking pose for a guy like him. A guy with a little gravitas to him and everything. But it's like if he didn't. It's just the times when we see both his hands and both his arms is that it is ludicrously long. I almost want to believe, and I don't know if this is true or not. I want to believe that they looked at the situation of what they were trying to do, tried a couple times to get it to look as natural as possible, realized that wasn't possible, and went, all right, make it funny that it's longer.

Nic

Yes, 100. Because where he's poking him in the chest, talking to him, it seems like it's a foot longer than it should be. And I. I would see the same thing. If they're watching this in the edit bay or whatever, they're like, this is so funny. Like, it should. It should look as long as possible.

Steve

Can we make it longer? You know, like Dennis Dugan's like, I don't think it's long enough. Let's do it longer. But it really is so crazy long.

Nic

Yeah.

Steve

And so he's talking to Happy and he's like, trying to convince him. He's like, man, if you work with me, you know, you go, there's this. There's this tournament tomorrow, the Waterbury Open. If you win it, you're on the pro tour. It's like, I don't really think that's a thing that happens, but I don't know golf that well, so maybe. But, you know, you should do this because you could make the big bucks or whatever. But initially he's like, I'm not gonna do this. I'm a hockey player. He goes into a batting cage to just take baseballs off the sternum, which I, you know, it doesn't. There's no sign that says how fast those balls are going, but they look pretty quick. This is not like a slow pitch softball cage that would. To break bones. That. That's not. That's not.

Nic

You're not taking repeated hits and you're squaring up like that head to the chest. Yeah.

Steve

So Happy should be dead. That should be the second death doesn't happen. But yeah, so. So Chubbs is trying to convince him, like, hey, man, you've got something special. Nobody can hit the ball like you can. This is crazy. Like, you should really take advantage of this. He's like, I'm not a golfer. I gotta wear stupid clothes. And da, da. Like I'm. I'm a hockey player, you know. And he starts sort of hitting like empty soda cans. Yeah, right. To like just practice this hockey play. And Chubbs is gesticulating wildly, talking to him, at which point Happy rails off a slap shot that hits Chubbs's hand, unfortunately knocks it off of however it's supposed to be attached to his missing hand area, to his wrist, and it flies into the street. To which Chub says, no, no, no, don't worry about it.

Nic

That's wood.

Steve

It's real strong, real sturdy, made of wood. And then the garbage truck or whatever, the big rig or whatever comes over and just crushes it. And the way Happy goes to say goodbye to Chubs and goes to, yes.

Nic

Missing hand.

Steve

So funny. He's like, okay, so good.

Nic

So great. Yeah. And so then Happy agrees, like, all right, well, I'm going to try the Waterbury Open. And he shows up to it.

Steve

Yes.

Nic

And as he's there and he kind of sees people arriving, he sees this limo go by. This is a part that, I don't know why always stuck with us, but in college we had this kind of obsession with Burt Reynolds and mostly like with his bad movies, like his mid-80s, like low budget, like Heat Stick Malone, like all these things that he did. Yeah. White Lightning, all this stuff. And we had to the point where we would have Burt Day. So we would have like a day where we're doing all Burt Reynolds movies. But somebody said, well, we can watch Happy Gilmore because the limo. He's in the limo because Happy Gilmore says, oh, look, that limo must be Burt Reynolds or something. And the limo, of course, is the star of the show, kind of the biggest name who's showing up to this Waterbury open open shooter McGavin, who's like one of the rising stars or one of the better pro golfers.

Steve

Yes. The indication here is that he's. He's somebody who's been on the tour a long time. He's. They refer to him for the current season or whatever as like the top money earner or whatever on the tour right now. And. But he. We do learn a little later, but, you know, he has not won the big tournament yet. Like, he's not won the pga. That's. They don't call it the pga, the Tour Championship. They're very careful not to refer to the PGA or the Masters or anything else.

Nic

Specific locations.

Steve

Yeah, there's, there's, there's. There are a couple references. Locations that are clearly incorrect, but other than that, that. Yeah, so. So Shooter's here. He's there. I guess it's sort of PR for this because, again, because the winner of this Waterbury Open tournament gets to join the Tour. I think he's there as sort of like a. A goodwill ambassador from the pro golfers.

Nic

He says he doesn't be my colleague at one person is going to be my co worker.

Steve

It's only one of you gets to be my colleague. All of you are now my friend.

Nic

He's like, just perfect. Kind of sleaze bag, like, politician delivery on this stuff.

Steve

Christopher McDonald is, first off, just across the board, an underrated comedic actor. Like, I don't care how much you like Christopher McDonald. You should like him more. Like, there's. There's that, right?

Nic

But you hear that? Christopher McDonald's mom.

Steve

That's right, Chris. If you want to come on the pods, let me know.

Nic

Hey, hit it up, man.

Steve

The show@2dazzlemov.com that's the number two and the number one. So he, you know, this role in particular, he's just so well suited for. You know, there's some times where guys, you know, and it's not a role they wrote for themselves or anything like that, but they're just. Just put in something, cast in something where it's just. God, that is so perfect. And he. Like you said, it's like a. It's a politician thing. It's sort of this smarmy rich guy thing. It's. It's. There's, like. You can tell he's got a media coach. You know what I mean? There's this, like, all this stuff going on, and he plays the role so well and just the right level of smarmy shitbagness.

Nic

Right.

Steve

It's glorious. It really is wonderful. Shooter is one of the best characters not just in this movie, but in 90s comedies.

Nic

Yeah, he's great. And you see him kind of becoming unhinged, like. Like, he. He's in full control of everything, except for his reaction to this guy who might be a threat to, like, the attention he's getting.

Steve

Yeah, yeah.

Nic

And, yeah, really, really funny.

Steve

Yeah.

Nic

So we're introduced to the kind of I don't know. She's a coordinator or, like, a player liaison for the tour or what?

Steve

She's marketing or public relations, I think she was. They referred her as, like, the public relations director for the tour. Yeah.

Nic

Oh, and this is Julie Bowen, who's Virginia Vennett.

Steve

Right, exactly. Which we'll. We'll stop for a second to mention something about Adam Sandler writing characters that are the love interest for his character who have the initials VIVI Because Veronica Vaughn was the love interest in Billy Madison. Vicki Valencourt was the love interest in the water boy. I'm sure there are more, but, yes, this is Virginia Vennet, which is kind of a funky last name. You don't see. Vennet.

Nic

Not a lot of vents out there.

Steve

Exactly. Let me see. I think there was at least one more. Oh, yeah. In Little Nicy, the love interest is Valerie Varin. And then Hubie, Halloween, it was Violet Valentine, also played by Bowen.

Nic

Okay.

Steve

Yeah. The dude really digs the VV Name structure for the love interest.

Nic

Everyone's got to have a thing. Julie Bowen. This is a very early appearance of hers. I mean, she became like, a big star with Modern Family after this. So she's there, and Happy's getting ready, and he's walking up with his clubs, and this kid comes up from behind him and grabs his club like, hey, punk, where are you going with my clubs?

Steve

Which, like, I get that this kid was like, you know, he's like an amateur caddy at the club or whatever, but, like, he should know better than.

Nic

Yeah, you don't have to do clubs.

Steve

But, yes, this is his caddy. The club is assigned a caddy. And. And he's like, oh, okay. Hey, just. Just, you know, tell me if I'm. Make sure I'm not doing anything stupid. All right? Just help me out. Like. Like, I can handle the rest of this. The clubs are old. I'll hold them. Just tell me if I'm doing anything stupid. So he stands there by the te. And the guy, you know, announcing the. The players. Mr. Lafferty is ready to. To tee off. Mr. Gilmore, ple. You know, now. So he stands there. Get out of the way. Oh, sorry. Walks over. I love this line. He walks over the caddy and goes, where were you on that one, dipshit?

Nic

This is one of those lines that we say all the time and you don't necessarily think of where it was. God, it's so perfect.

Steve

Specifically, where were you on that one, dipshit?

Nic

It's really good. His first tee shot.

Steve

Right.

Nic

And. And he really embraces them. Right. Absolutely crushes it. And It's a par 4. Where normally in golf you're not going to hit the green on a par four. No, right. Traditionally, like something that's a par three, 250 yards or less, 300 yards or less. You might hit the green. That's really tough too. And he. So he's unprecedented. Unprecedented with how hard he's hitting his tee shots.

Steve

Absolutely.

Nic

So this kicks it off, but also at the same time, he cannot putt.

Steve

No, he has to try to putt. And yeah, he's on the green. And one, which like you said for part four is like insane on the green. And two is. Is really good pro level, right?

Nic

Yeah.

Steve

So it's insane that he's on the green and one and then. But yes, I guess to five putt, I think to get there. I mean, it's real bad. It's real hard to watch.

Nic

And as he's putting, you know, and he's. He's different looking than all the other golfers. Everyone's wearing the traditional golf outfit. He's got his Bruins jersey on. And, you know, he's going through his putt. He misses a putt terribly. One of the guys comments to another one is this guy kidding. And he's going through and saying like, oh, this is. This is pathetic. And then finally Happy sinks his putt. And the guy goes, goes, oh, it's about time, to this other guy. And Happy, like, turns and marches over to him. He's like, yeah, it was about time, wasn't it? I wanted it to go in, but it just wouldn't. And he pulls his shirt over his head and punches him like a hockey fight.

Steve

Perfect hockey fight move. Like, they literally. Hockey jerseys have these straps inside in the back that you put around your belt on your pants to keep people from being able to pull your jersey over your head like that because it holds your arms down. So, yeah, he does the classic hockey fight move. Knocks the guy out. There was a point where he starts putting at one point and obviously just frustrated is not doing well. And Chubbs calls out time and he goes up to like, talk to. And I'm like, time, like, what? There's no clock in golf that calls timeout. Like, I mean, maybe there is like an unspoken clock of like, how long you can take between. But it's not instantaneous. You can take time to like, you know, whatever. But he goes. And that's when Chubbs does the like, come on, baby, you gotta relax. It's all in the hips. It's all in the hips. And by the end of it, he's literally to going, going. It's all in the hips. And he's kind of got a little lil to his voice.

Nic

And he happy ends up getting a hole in one on one of the holes, which is on a par 4. Again, crazy. Something that literally almost never happens. Or maybe it has never happened, at least as far as anyone who's there has ever seen in their life.

Steve

Yeah.

Nic

There's almost no reaction from the crowd when he gets this hole in one. And I saw the video this year. There's a cheer, but not people losing it the way that they would for something like that. That we get a very good montage as he's kind of advancing in this tournament. We're showing the leaderboard.

Steve

Yeah.

Nic

And House of Pains Jump around is playing as it's showing his various, like, victories and failures throughout this golf tournament. But it's really good.

Steve

And would you say that his name on the board jumps around from top? Certainly does it. Jumps up and jumps up and then gets down. Is that right? Okay, just checking.

Nic

He hits his ball into the pond and ends up diving in after it.

Steve

It.

Nic

And then it's a very funny scene where he's underneath and he's looking at all the balls to see which one is his and finds the right one. I don't think that saves you any strokes.

Steve

But no, it's still. Visually hitting a water hazard is still a one stroke penalty. You still take a drop. But hey, you know, that works. Yeah. So he. He does end up just barely, like, I think on the final hole is able to win the Waterbury Open. And. And this is fantastic. And Virginia Bennett is immediately in love. Basically. She. She's already thinking about the PR and sort of the marketing campaign around a guy that can hit this far and shooter a little less excited. Definitely not all that happy with the sort of, you know, he was expecting a, you know, good amateur who would be no threat even to the attention of fans.

Nic

Exactly.

Steve

To join this. But this is clearly different. This guy's different. A par hole in one to par four is insane. You know, it's the kind of thing you just never see. So he's not as excited. But. But boy, you know, Virginia could not be happier. That happy.

Nic

Her job's gonna be interesting now. It seems like. I mean, she's a young person stuck in this, like, really stuffy world. So it's like, oh, my God, something finally. Yeah, exactly. And then there's a Post. Post tournament reception kind of thing. And Happy's walking around with his trophy.

Steve

Yeah.

Nic

And I thought this was funny where we see Chubb sitting there and he has the most, like, over piled plate of food there, mountain of fruit.

Steve

It's all.

Nic

It's all like strawberries and stuff. But it makes me think of the great Carl Weathers work later on in Arrested Development. And like, is this the same. Is he just like this in real life? So they add this stuff like, you know, oh, I could take these. I got a fruit salad going, baby.

Steve

Got it going, baby.

Nic

So that made Arrested Development, made Carl Weathers so enjoyable to watch in every other context because of that. Because he's like, so deeply funny. And he lived, like, in our town. He lived pretty close to where we live. Live for a long time before he passed away. So I. I know a lot of people who have seen him. I've seen him.

Steve

Yeah.

Nic

Just randomly at like, the movie theater or whatever.

Steve

So when you think about Carl Weathers, I always immediately think of, like, obviously Apollo Creed and then. And then I can't remember the character's name or not, but Predator. Like, those are the two things I, you know, think of. My old Carl Weathers is like pretty serious roles in pretty serious movies.

Nic

Yeah.

Steve

But you see stuff like this and obviously his Time Under Arrest development, and it's just like, oh, man, this guy has always been a lot of fun. Yeah. You know, and it's like, he must have. He played those serious roles because he's an actor and he's a serious. You know, he can. He's got chops. He can do it. But man.

Nic

Seems like, funny.

Steve

Yeah. He would have been a lot of fun to hang out with. Clearly. For sure. Give me. Give me prime Carl Weathers and prime Billy Dee Williams. We're gonna go hang out.

Nic

Oh, hell, yeah. That sounds like a time.

Steve

Absolutely.

Nic

Easy on the cold 45. So. So now we're kind of back showing Grandma's Situation at the old folks home, and they're all making quilts and Hal El, Ben Stiller's character, is on the phone with someone obviously saying, you know, well, you know, this is your order. Well, I could do it for 200 a pop. We can get 50 more. And then hangs up the phone and says to all these poor old people that are sewing, he's like, good news, everybody. Arts and crafts time has been extended by four hours today.

Steve

This is some handmade quality shit right here. And he's got like, the old Motorola Startac. I love that phone. Really good classic mid-90s cell phone.

Nic

So grandma's basically like slave labor at a quilt, you know. Sweatshop.

Steve

Sweatshop, Exactly. Well, this is obviously why it doesn't cost much money for her to live there. She's being put to work. Yeah. And then another poor old lady is just like, oh, my fingers hurt. And he's like, oh, your fingers hurt? Well, now your back's gonna hurt because you just pulled landscaping duty. Anybody else's fingers hurt? Didn't think so. Like, he is just. So this is a really clean Ben Stiller evil character. I feel like. I feel like years later, he would really dig into the character he played here for White Goodman in Dodgeball later on. Yeah, it's very much a similar, like, just shitty person. He is.

Nic

I mean, he became and is now, you know, a leading man, but with his sketch beginnings, like, the Ben Stiller show was a really funny sketch show and stuff. So it's great to see him in these little roles. He really knocks it out of the park. Back at the reception, so we have Happy, and he kind of walks up on some of the pros there.

Steve

Yeah. Because he's on the tour.

Nic

Oh, this is the reception night before the first turnout. Right.

Steve

He's joining. Yeah.

Nic

And he walks up to Shooter and some of the pros, and they're being, like, pretty cool to him. I think they're a little dismissive. But the other guys are at least like, yeah, it's just a guy.

Steve

Well. And the guy, he's like, hey, I heard you did a whole one in a par four. That's crazy. They're impressed. At least that part of it is very impressive.

Nic

Right. And Shooter, you know, is a little bit shitty to him, but he says, hey, I'll tell you what. Why don't you meet us on 9pm at the 9th green? Little secret of the pros. Dress nice.

Steve

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Nic

So I love it, too.

Steve

Before that, though, because Adam. Happy, I think very innocently. Right. Because all the other pros that Shooter is talking to, they're all wearing their gold jackets. Right. And of course, the gold jacket is, of course, a reference to the green jacket, which is, in the real world, what you earn by winning. Not the Tour Championship, but the Masters, it's a single tournament on a private golf course in Georgia, and it's. But it's one of the biggest tournaments of the golf year. And if you win at the Masters, you get a green jacket. That's like their thing.

Nic

Thing.

Steve

So they obviously, they took that and they turned it into the Gold jacket and that you get it for winning the Tour Championship. So that's the thing. So these three other golfers that Shooters talking to are all wearing their gold jackets. They've obviously won the Tour Championship at some point in their careers. You know, you win it once, you wear it forever kind of thing. Right. But he doesn't have his. And so, you know, Happy notices, like all these guys are. He doesn't know what this gold jacket. He's a hockey fan. He doesn't know any of this.

Nic

Yeah.

Steve

He's like, oh, you're all wearing a gold jacket. Oh, yeah. You get that for winning the Tour Championship. And. And he goes, where's yours, Shooter?

Nic

Funny guy. Yeah. The way he reacts to that, too, is really good. Oh, my God. So good. So Happy basically shows up to this ninth green, and the sprinklers go off on him. He's been pranked, and he's all pissed. And he tells Victoria, and she's like, yeah, Virginia. Yeah, Virginia. God damn it. I'll just say Vivi. Vivy.

Steve

We can just say Julie Bowen, too.

Nic

Yeah. But basically, you know, save it for the golf course.

Steve

Yeah. Right. Yeah. Well, guess he's like, hey, have you seen Shooter McGavin? She's like, no, not really. Why? Oh, I gotta find him so I can kill him. Yeah.

Nic

So now we're at day one of the tournament, right? And Happy. And Happy drives this old beater car. I don't know if it's like a Dodge Duster or Plymouth Duster or something awful, but it's something that, during that time, would have been considered just a big piece of crap. It was probably 25 years old, different colors, paint. And he pulls up to the tournament, and there's a homeless guy who's, like, spraying his windshield, like, trying to wash his windshield. And. And Happy Gilmore is being nice to him. He's like, oh, here you go. Thanks, man. Gives him a couple bucks. The cops are trying to haul him away. And he's like, hey, you know, he's just trying to earn some money.

Steve

These are country club security guards. These aren't even cops. But, yes, they harass him and throw him out of there. Yeah.

Nic

So he goes up to register, and they say, like, you know, where's your caddy? I don't have a caddy. I thought you guys would give me one. Oh, for the tour, you provide your own caddy, right? And then in something that foreshadows the rest of Adam Sandler's life, he says, says, I got this bum friend that I'LL give a job to like I do in all my movies. So this guy is played by the actor. I think it's Alan Covert.

Steve

Sounds right.

Nic

He's been in a bunch of his stuff. He was the main character in Grandma's Boy.

Steve

Right.

Nic

So he gave him a little star turn in that.

Steve

Right.

Nic

And he's not that in demand outside of the Sandler verse. So I would say that it's a bit of a, you know, whatever nepotism with friends is.

Steve

But he's probably his best though, I think was probably as the limo driver in the Wedding Singer. That was a good role.

Nic

He was better in that. Yeah. But it's kind of funny where it's like Sandler hires this guy off the street to do a job that maybe he's not qualified for and very telling the rest of his stuff. So I just wanted to point that out. I thought that was very funny.

Steve

Yeah. So he gets out to the first. So he goes back and he gets the bum that he found basically and brings him on to be his caddy. And he's paired up with Kevin Nealon. I don't even know the character's name, but it's Kevin Nealon. I love Kevin Nealon. And he is clear. Clearly this like woo woo, vibes, crystals, dippy kind of guy or whatever he talks about. You gotta harness the energy, block the bad. Harness energy, block bad. It's cyclical. It's cyclical. It's like a circle. It's like a. It's like a merry go round. It goes around and round and up and down. And it's just like he sounds like with Tony Robbins, you know?

Nic

Yeah. Just trying to be like a soft spoken.

Steve

Oh my God. So funny. But like just. Yeah. He's so different from Happy, like completely.

Nic

The exact opposite personality. And then Happy goes to tee off the first time and I think it cut showing like the TV broadcast of him. And I think he misses.

Steve

He just misses the swing.

Nic

Just doesn't even hit the ball. And he's swearing and it's being bleeped out and he's throwing all over. He's losing his mind on the first swing of the first tournament.

Steve

And now it's televised like the day before. Whatever. The week before when he played the Waterbury Open, like that was not on tv, so it didn't matter. Now it's televised, so it's a problem. I'll also say if they didn't bleep that and the many other scenes where they show us Happy through a monitor where he's being bleeped. This would have been a rated R movie.

Nic

Yeah, right, Totally.

Steve

Never would have allowed all that language in a pg 13.

Nic

Or would. Had made up swear words.

Steve

Yeah. Rasa Frassa.

Nic

So right after his tirade, the. The camera kind of pans to like a very astonished. I think it's fuzzy seller.

Steve

No, Lee Trevino.

Nic

Lee Trevino. Okay. I was like, it's one of those shows up.

Steve

Yes. Several times in the movie.

Nic

Yeah. So it's kind of funny that it keeps going back.

Steve

You remember Lee Trevino because he was always in the La Victoria salsa commercials back in the 80s. That's the.

Nic

Okay.

Steve

As in Victoria Vennett Virginia. But yeah, it's one of those. There's just a. Great. So there's a bunch of stuff that happens with. With. With Happy and trying to, you know, kind of keep his temper under control and when he actually does well or he does or whatever. And there's a point where he. He sinks a great putt and then, you know, starts riding his golf cart, his golf club around, you know, as if it were like a hobby horse. And I love Kevin Nealon's character. Goes doing the bull dance. Feeling the flow. Yeah, Working it, working it. Like, it's just so good. And then. And doing the bull dance feel absolutely something that I've repeated numerous times in my life. Anytime it gets remotely like somebody's celebrating something.

Nic

Oh, yeah, that's a good one.

Steve

Good one to pop out is doing the bull dance. Feeling the flow.

Nic

Very nice. So in this tournament, and you know, the reason obviously he's doing all this is he's trying to raise money to keep his grandmother's house.

Steve

Right.

Nic

And he's told before the tournament by Virginia that, you know, oh, the winner of this tournament makes, you know, x hundred thousand dollars. She's like, what do you make if you get dead lashes? He's like, 2500 bucks. Great.

Steve

It's awesome.

Nic

So, you know, it's showing his progress through the tournament and mostly a struggle and he ends up dead last in the tournament.

Steve

Yeah. And. And so it's at the end of the tournament and Shooter is being, you know, feted by the media. He won. He's got the big check for 216 grand or whatever it is. And Happy's like, hey, where's my check? And the guy is like, oh, we don't have him here. You know, we'll mail him out next week. No, no, no, no. I need it now. That guy got a check. Give me one of those big ones. I Don't care. And it's like, I don't think you can take those to a bank.

Nic

No.

Steve

And actually deposit them. But that's okay. He got, you know, his, his. He gets his $2,400 or whatever it is. Check.

Nic

And I want to see him signing. Endorsing the back of those checks where he has to sign his name super big.

Steve

You use one of those huge Sharpies, a big flat tip to it, you know.

Nic

And then shooters being asked. So, yeah, this is where. Shooters getting continually upset about Happy because he won this tournament. Right. He's the hot shit in the golf world. He's the best golfer out there. There. And he's being asked, did you see what Happy Gilmore. You see, he got a hole in one on a par four.

Steve

Quite a long, long ball.

Nic

And he's like, yeah. Where'd he finish? Dead last. Like, he's so annoyed at being asked these questions.

Steve

I didn't get a chance to watch him. I was too busy winning.

Nic

Yeah. And. And saying something like that where it's like, nobody will like you more after you say something like that. And he just doesn't have these instincts like when he. When someone gets in his head, he starts losing it. So. So Shooter's pissed, and he wants Happy off the tour because Happy is being. Been fighting and throwing around and swearing. They're like, this is inappropriate behavior for us.

Steve

Yeah. And so we cut to later that evening, I guess, right? And it's, you know, whatever hotel all the golfers are staying at. It's the bar, right? Is that. Yes, we're at. And. And Shooters there already. He's having a drink. Happy walks in, he looks to get a beer, and Shooter's like, oh, you know, put that on my tab, you know, and he's like, oh, it was quite a. Quite a display out there. You know, you could probably make a very good living. Those long ball tournaments or maybe going around, you know, it's a different. Different golf clubs and, you know, hustling people for long drives. And Happy, I love great delivery man. So he goes, I know what you're doing right now, and I don't like it.

Nic

And they're. And they're going at each other and he ends up, like, smashing the beer.

Steve

Bottle on the right. He's like, yo, I'm gonna kick your ass. I'd like to see a try. Okay. And he smashes the bottle. Another great line too, because then Virginia shows up like, what are you doing? He's like, oh, I'm looking for the other half. Of this bottle. Oh, there's some of it right there. Some of it's there. You should put that down. Yeah, I know. Like, yes, but. Yeah, but this is clearly what is ramping up the, you know, rivalry between Shooter and Happy.

Nic

Yeah.

Steve

And it's really important for us to not just recognize that, like, look, Happy's just there to earn money. Happy does not give a crap if he wins tournaments or if he does well in the thing. He does not care about any of that. He just wants to win as much money as he can to save his grandma's house. And so really, Shooter is kind of like inventing this rivalry where it does not exist. Like, he really could just ignore Happy. Well, he's not on winning tournaments.

Nic

He's not trying to get any of this attention that he's getting either.

Steve

No, totally.

Nic

He's just being himself. He's being a normal guy. And Virginia tells him. She's like, look, you could stay on the tour. I. I advocated for you, but no more swearing, no more fighting. You gotta. You keep your shit together. So then we're shown the next tournament, and I think Gilmore is up to hit. And somebody in the crowd calls out to him and recognizes Mr. Gilmore.

Steve

Yeah, it's our buddy, Mr. Larson.

Nic

Mr. Larson, our 7 foot 2 boss, who now has a nail just in his head, not in his helmet for a moment.

Steve

Let's talk about that. We saw at the beginning, in the little flashback sequence from the beginning, that he took the nail gun shot through the hard hat. So I guess you could cut the heart with the right kind of tools. You could cut the hard hat off the head to leave the nail, I guess, because he says the nail comes out next week, which is, like, funny. I don't know how long it's been, but we saw that sequence with the construction thing, like, in a flashback sequence. So it had been some amount of time, and he'd obviously recovered from the hospitalization he was put into.

Nic

Right.

Steve

By Mr. Larson beating his ass over it. And yet here we are, potentially months or more later, and that nail is still there.

Nic

And so he's just living that Phineas Gage lifestyle.

Steve

But he has forgiven Happy. He is a. Okay. And he's here to cheer him on, which is super. So, basically, in so many ways, Mr. Larson is the biggest person in this movie.

Nic

It's true.

Steve

He's the bigger person in every way.

Nic

Yeah. And he's being cool. He is happy for him. And it's one of those, like, oh, he's actually a pretty nice guy, like, type thing. And then he's got a rowdy crowd there. He's got. They make. I think the announcers say that it's a very economically diverse crowd or something, which I think is really funny.

Steve

I want to mention, too, I love when sports movies do this. They got a real golf. Verne Lundqvist is a real golf announcer playing himself. And I love when that happens with, like, you know. You know, like somebody like Tom Brennaman or Bob Costas or whoever it might be. I love when they involve real announcers or anchors or whoever for that sport in a sports movie.

Nic

It makes it work so much better.

Steve

It makes it feel like it's really going on. So hearing Vern Lundqvist's voice, you know, because I definitely, at that time, you know, I was never a huge golf fan, but in the 90s, I would watch the Masters. I would watch the US Open. You know, I would just watch some of these stuff on the weekends or whatever, when. During golf season, which is most of the year, frankly. And, you know, you'd hear Vern Lundquist all the time. It was like the standard. He was kind of the voice of golf at the time. So it was really cool to have him in this movie playing himself and. And doing stuff like, who the hell is Happy Gilmore?

Nic

It hits a lot harder when it's like a real anchor saying stuff like that. And then Sandler learned this later by just putting Dan Patrick in all of his movies. That's right. So, yeah, so he's out there. He's got his rowdy crowd. They got cut off jeans. He's signing racks. He's like, you know, he's having a good old time. And he ends up hitting the ball into the pond at one point, and it looks like it goes into an alligator. Just chomps down, basically.

Steve

Oh, boy.

Nic

And Happy, because he's a hockey player, he dives in right after it.

Steve

Well, it's first he notices, right, the alligator's missing an eye.

Nic

Oh, that's right. He chooses that before he jumps in.

Steve

Hook the eye from the gator. I think we mentioned that actually, earlier. But when he tells Happy how he lost his hand. The gator bit it off, but I took that bastard's eye. And he's carrying around with him. And so he's. He realizes, oh, this is the gator that took Chubbs's hand. Yeah, yeah. So he kills the gator, basically. He, like, chokes it to death, I guess. Sort of what happens.

Nic

He elbows it right squarely on the top of the head. Good goofy Sandler.

Steve

Stuff, though. Wonderful. He's beating up a rubber. A clearly rubber alligator. Yeah.

Nic

So he ends up killing the gator. And now we're kind of taken to, you know, advance the romance of this film here.

Steve

Exactly.

Nic

And he takes. Takes Virginia on a date.

Steve

Yeah.

Nic

To the skating rink. And they have the whole thing to.

Steve

Themselves, which apparently they're back in Waterbury, I guess.

Nic

Yeah.

Steve

He knows the Zamboni. The Zamboni driver. Because he gets there and it's like, hey, pal, can we have the ice? You know, whatever. And he's like, for Happy Gilmore, anything. It's like, why does this guy. Oh, Happy. Like, why does he even. Yeah. I don't know. We don't know any of the backstory with the guy. But the song Endless Love begins to play.

Nic

Yes.

Steve

And. And Virginia looks and was like, I thought. I didn't. This is a date. I thought that we were just here as friends. He goes, why friends listen to Endless Love in the dark.

Nic

Real quick. On. On ice skating. So, you know, Happy Gilmore never figured out how to ice skate. And it seems like over the years you can kind of learn it. You know, you can learn other stuff.

Steve

My son learned how to ice skate in six months. Yeah.

Nic

You know, so I. We went at Thanksgiving. We were in Tahoe, and there's one of those, like, temporary ice rinks outside. My niece, who is four years old, went out ice skating for the first time, and she. Normally, it's hard to get her to do stuff because she's four years old, but she was excited. And we get her skates on her and everything, and she does not want to skate. But they have these things you sit on that the parents push so it looks like a whale, and they sit on it and there's handles on the back so you can skate and push your kid around and stuff. She had a blast.

Steve

Nice.

Nic

My brother said a couple weeks later there was an older kid talking to her about ice skating. And they were like, oh, I've never been ice skating before. And my niece says, oh, it's easy. You just sit on a whale.

Steve

Nice.

Nic

So little ice skating interjection. Okay, so Happy in Virginia on their date here, listening to Endless Love in the dark.

Steve

And I love to. We get a clip. They do kiss, actually. No, that's right. He bets her. You know, here you make one shot. If you, if you miss, you have to kiss me or whatever. And she, she.

Nic

She hits it and he says, talk about your. All time backfires.

Steve

Yeah. But she very, very sweetly says that you. She didn't See it go in because she wanted to kiss him. So. So they do kiss and at which point it's got the. In the background, it's the two of them skating, kissing. And the Zamboni driver is in the foreground of the shot lip syncing to Endless Love.

Nic

Like both parts of it, both parts of the duet.

Steve

And, and with so much verve and, and just like he does it so passionately. It's one of my favorite moments of him.

Nic

That's like a Sandler ism. It's just having a. Just a. A weirdo character do something like that.

Steve

And it, it's just so funny. It's sort of like Steve Buscemi putting the lipstick on when he's got the kill list. And Billy Madison, dude, that's a perfect example.

Nic

Yes. So now he's onto the next tournament, which is a Pro Am where he's being matched up with. Or not a Pro Am Pro Am where he's being matched up with the celebrity and he's matched up with the great Bob Barker.

Steve

The great Bob Barker. The late great Bob Barker.

Nic

Now.

Steve

But yes, absolutely. And I mentioned at the beginning of the episode that there will be a fight leader that won an award between these two. I mean, this is like, this is an important scene.

Nic

Yeah.

Steve

Movie Also important because for the first time Happy is getting heckled and SCTV alum and guy who's been in a hundred movies during this era as a small part, Joe Flaherty.

Nic

The dad from Freaks and Geeks. Yeah, I mean, it's like one of the great. It's just been in a million so.

Steve

Good. Exactly. He's been in. And again and almost anything that included anybody who had anything to do with sctv. So like anything, you know, Harold Ramis was involved in a. Rick Moranis was involved in, or John Candy was involved in. They all. You know, it's like you ended up having Joe Flaherty in somewhere. Right. I mean, it was sort of like he was maybe the. You know, he's sort of like when Sandler puts all his friends in. This guy was in everything. But. Yeah, but he's basically just like, you know, he's talking through the backswing, calling him jackass and all this stuff. And here's the thing. I know that in the, in the world of this movie, Happy has attracted a very, you know, an audience new to golf.

Nic

Right.

Steve

And you know, they have these Quiet please placards they raise up in the sky. But he keeps saying when he goes to. To. To. To golf, he. He wants people to Cheer and stuff. So he's. He amps up the crowd. I get all that. But if this guy was just yelling in his backswing and calling him jackass, he would have been removed.

Nic

Yeah.

Steve

Like, there's just absolutely no reason that they would have just allowed him to continue to do that. So the whole premise of the sequence is a little weak in that, you know, Barker continues to get mad at Happy Gilmore screwing up, but Happy's only screwing up because Joe Flaherty keeps yelling jackass at him. You know, and it's like, shitty. I'll also mention the other problem with this scene, in my opinion, is that they say this is in San Francisco. Now, there is a golf course. The Olympic Club has hosted the US Open. It's a major golf course in San Francisco. But, like, there's nowhere anywhere near San Francisco that looks anything like this. It was shot.

Nic

I thought it was, like. Right. But I almost thought it was, like, we're calling Carmel San Francisco because we don't.

Steve

If it was clearly an ocean beyond them and not like a lake with mountains beyond it, you could have pulled off, like, yeah, pebble beach kind of concept. But no, they just said San Francisco. And then it's like. Like, I don't care. You might not even have been to San Francisco. You can tell. This doesn't look. This isn't the ocean. Like, I mean, that's. It's not on the coast. It's like some lake somewhere.

Nic

It didn't. Yeah, it didn't make that much sense. And then the fact that Happy has a car, that beater car, which is full of the giant checks from the tournaments, which leads you to believe he's driving himself across the country. That's. That's the Goodwill hunting car. Going from Connecticut to San Francisco to drive. Drive to the tournament and back and all this stuff.

Steve

Crazy. Yeah.

Nic

So him and. Him and Bob Barker. Yeah, he's screwing up. Bob Barker's getting mad. One other thing I wanted to point out, this, like, media storm around him. We're now maybe, I don't know, a month or two into his golf career.

Steve

Yeah.

Nic

No sponsorships yet.

Steve

Yeah. No nothing. Nobody's reached out to him.

Nic

Yeah, like, that. That's. That's unrealistic. He definitely have, like, a, you know, bluechew.com. he'd be one of those guys, you know?

Steve

Yes, exactly. You got to figure Larry Flint was reaching out to him. Be like, this is my kind of.

Nic

Guy, you know, it just.

Steve

Just advertise Hustler for me. Like, put it on a Hat.

Nic

So. So him and Bob Barker. Bob Barker's finally had it. And. And Happy's had it with Bob Barker talking shit to him. And they have an excellent fight scene.

Steve

Right. And. And which, you know, spawns the famous line, the price is wrong, bitch. Like, I do love too that Happy at the beginning mistakes Bob Barker for the host of let's Make a Deal. I think he's like, it's actually right. Happy. But yep. So they fight and Bob Barker beats Happy's ass. Like, ends up headbutting him in the face. Like, Happy loses that.

Nic

He's really funny in that scene.

Steve

Bob Barker's.

Nic

He does a great job.

Steve

Absolutely.

Nic

So knowing that Bob Barker has passed.

Steve

Yes.

Nic

In the sequel, we going to get a fight with Drew Carey? Are we going to get a fight with some other, like, host. Game show host?

Steve

I'm kind of hoping for, like, who would be a fun one. Because it's got to be how we met. No, it's got to be Howie Mandel. Get me Howie Mandel from. From dealer. No deal. I want that. I want that battle.

Nic

And then he has two fake Chubbs hands because he's afraid to touch anything in real life. So it's Howie Mandel with like five foot long arms.

Steve

I don't know how that man has. As two very, very bald men. I have no idea how Howie Mandel has no stubble on his head whatsoever. He must have had a laser hair, like, removal all over his scalp because that dude is the smoothest. That's smoother than. Than Kojak.

Nic

He just gets dipped like a Maker's Mark bottle and like, like somehow gets a coating that his hair doesn't grow.

Steve

Oh, my God.

Nic

So that's it. Like the tournament. They're pissed off. Like, Happy just got in a fight with this old man who's like a big star and everything. And they have a meeting to talk about him getting kicked off the Tour. And I just want to point out that Happy shows up in like, the exact Bill Belichick sweatshirt to that meeting.

Steve

Why is Shooter there? Why would Shooter be in attendance at Happy's disciplinary hearing or whatever that was. Right. It makes sense that Virginia's there because she's pr, so like, you know, she's going to have to like, draft a statement or whatever about Hip getting kicked off.

Nic

Yeah.

Steve

And then obviously the name Bill. Bill Doug. That's his name. Right. The president of the Tour. Like, he's doing the disciplining. There is no reason Shooter should be there, but basically Shooter's hoping they're going to kick him off completely. What they end up doing is they find him 25 grand, which sucks. He's trying to build up this money. Right. And then suspend him for a month. And both men, both Happy and Shooter, are totally pissed off at this because Happy's like, I got to keep earning money from my grandma's house. And Shooter's like, you got to kick him off. Off.

Nic

Yeah.

Steve

But that's when Doug recognizes or, you know, points out our ratings are higher than they've ever been. We're attracting youthful sponsors, whatever. And this is when I want to mention golf really was hurting for that kind of thing at the time this movie came out. But just six months after this movie was released, Tiger woods would make his professional PGA Tour debut in Milwaukee.

Nic

Wow.

Steve

And from that point on, change the face of golf basically as we know it. Right. So very interesting that this movie comes out and then less than, you know, basically half a year later, golf does get the kind of complete facelift and, you know, youthful movement that it was looking for when a 20 year old tiger woods really hits the scene.

Nic

Yeah.

Steve

So very cool that that happened so close. But yeah. But basically the upshot of it is Happy suspended. He's not gonna be able to play in any more tournaments for a month.

Nic

Yep.

Steve

And he.

Nic

And he's having cash. But Virginia, very smart, realized marketing lady. We need to find a company that doesn't have a problem with problematic spokespeople.

Steve

Did not expect the Jared Fogel.

Nic

He ends up. He ends up. He ends up on a Subway commercial. So when they're first talking about it, he's like, oh, man, my life sucks. All I have in my life is this delicious foot long meat, cheese. What? And then it cuts to him in the Subway commercial, which is. It's a perfect way. And I think realistic. I think he would have got a sponsorship way earlier, but I think, I think that's like a realistic way to kind of like resolve this issue of him being suspended and fined.

Steve

And it's the right, like, level of sponsorship. Right. Subway is a national chain, but they're not like McDonald's or anything like that. They're not huge, you know, so it kind of makes sense. I want to stop for just a second. Did you eat a lot of subway in the 90s? Like, was that a thing for you or not?

Nic

I. Here and there. Yeah. Like late 90s when I worked at. Yeah, it was across the street from work.

Steve

Yeah. There was one real near our high school. There was, there was one in the next. The next little Strip mall over from our high school. And I went a lot, lot. I loved Subway. And I. And I watching this movie, I was so nostalgic for the triangle cut out of the bread. Right? They. They used to do that thing where they would cut the, like, little top off, pull it off, put all the meat in and put the bread back on. Now, you know, in for the last 20 years, probably they just in half, like, whatever. But there was that. And I even remember, like in. In high school at this time, my Subway order was a foot long cold cut combo with mayo, olives, lettuce, salt and pepper. And that was it. That was what I would get every time. It never failed. It was perfect. And it had that little triangle cut bread. And it's like, oh, man, if you loved subway in the 90s, that. That way to cut the bread was such a huge part of it. It was.

Nic

Yeah, it's like they figured out how kids like their grilled cheese to be cut diagonally and applied it to adults. They nailed it.

Steve

Perfect.

Nic

So he has this. This sponsorship, and now he thinks, like, okay, Now I have 270 grand. This is great.

Steve

We got enough money.

Nic

Grandma's house being auctioned off.

Steve

Off.

Nic

Let's go.

Steve

Well, no, he doesn't. No, he thinks they can just go and give the money.

Nic

He thinks that they're just. That's. That's a done deal.

Steve

He's gonna pay it and have the house.

Nic

But they arrive and they're like, what are all these people doing here? And the IRS guy, who's played by Triumph the insult, Robert Smigel.

Steve

That's right. That's.

Nic

He. He's like, oh, you know, we're actually having an auction, so, yeah, you definitely have an opportunity.

Steve

Very exciting.

Nic

And he's like, okay, okay, well, then maybe this is good. Maybe we'll get it from less than this and it'll help out. And immediately the bidding gets, you know, up into the 300,000 out of hand real fast. And someone wins for 350,000 and it's shooter. And he turns around, and I love that he says, real estate speculation has always been a hobby of mine.

Steve

Well. But he immediately offers the house to Happy. He says, just quit the tour. You can have the house. I'll give it to you. Just. Just quit the tour. And. And this is the thing. The movie should be over right now. Yeah, it should be over right now because Grandma, like. Because basically Virginia convinces Happy to not take that deal off the bat because she says something like, don't you think your grandma Wants you. Wants to see her grandson succeed. And I'm thinking to myself, from her house, she wants the house. Like, I'm sure she wants to have her home back.

Nic

Yeah.

Steve

Virginia. Like, what are you thinking here? But for whatever reason, Happy agrees and basically says to shoot her. Like, hey, hey, look, we got one more tournament, the Tour Championship. That's it. You know, if. If I beat you, I get the house. And, like, I don't know what else. Whatever. But if you beat me, you get the house. Whatever. It was, like, it's like, dumb, but whatever. Fact of the matter is now the. The Tour Championship winner, you know, is. Is who gets the house is basically what we're adding stakes. Before Happy can go do this last tournament, he realizes he needs some help with his game, right? So he goes back to Chubs. Yeah.

Nic

Oh, real quick. Shooter does make the comment, I eat little pieces of, like, you for breakfast. Is like, you eat pieces of for breakfast. Which I. I love that it's such a dumb thing.

Steve

Here's the thing. That's not even the funniest part of that sequence. Because again, Christopher McDonald, you should like him more than you do. Because when he turns back around the way he goes, no.

Nic

Yeah.

Steve

So it's like the most perfect delivery of a single word, like, ever. It's so good.

Nic

And it stuck so well that it, like. I mean, this is mentioned in Jesus Walks. Y' all eat pieces of shit. What's the basis? Like, he. It really. It really made it here.

Steve

It's. It's a classic. It's an unforgettable line. Yeah.

Nic

So Chub. So he needs some practice on his game, and he's got to hook up with Chubs again.

Steve

Right? And the putting is, like, always been the worst part. Obviously. He can get on any green in one shot. Yeah. He doesn't need a short, short game. He doesn't need a wedge game. He doesn't need chipping. He just needs to get on the green with this first shot and then putt. So Chubbs takes him to happy land mini golf course. That is diabolical. Like, these are the absolute most insane mini golf little holes I've ever seen in my life.

Nic

It's like if they made a video game that was like, hell. Mini golf. Like, the hardest possible.

Steve

These are basically. Most of these are physically impossible. There's like a golf. There's a clown that he beats up at one point that just, like, clearly the teeth are like, like, motion activated. So as the ball totally. It just goes out. And then when it does Go in, it spits the ball back out. Like, how's that? How are you ever. No, doesn't work like that.

Nic

Right?

Steve

Yeah. You're gonna die, clown. Yeah. So they're at the thing. Love Leechrovino shows back up. He is also practicing his putting at Happy Land, which is great because Leno is wonderful. But he. They go to this, like, thing where he tells Chubs is like, you can't get angry. Angry. Right. Golf is all about being mellow. You gotta find your happy place. Go to your happy place, just conscious. So he kind of daydreams for a minute before, like, the most difficult sort of mini golf hole. And he sees Virginia, and she's wearing lingerie and carrying two pitchers of beer on, like, a chaise lounge. And then Grandma is, you know, wearing very nice clothes and, like, doing a slot machine and winning a ton of change. Whatever. Then for some reason, there's a little person with a hobby horse wearing, you know, chaps and spanking his butt, tipping.

Nic

His hat, walking around.

Steve

Very strange. But that's okay. And so he finds his happy place and makes the crazy putt. And then they go back to Happy's apartment.

Nic

Yes, they have gifts, right?

Steve

And they do have gifts for each other. And so Chubs.

Nic

Chubs gives Happy the least regulation putter that I've ever seen in my life. He gives him a putter that looks like a hockey stick.

Steve

Yeah. He claims it's his putter he used to use, but modified. Okay, how. What? It's like, so I guess just the.

Nic

The shaft to a blacksmith. What. What do you do like.

Steve

But yeah, so it's got the big, wide. I don't know how regulation stuff works. It's got the big, wide hockey stick blade to it. But, you know, it's obviously going to make Happy a little more comfortable trying to putt with this thing, which, you know, maybe, you know, Chubs, in your next life, bring that out before the practice round so that he could practice with the fancy putter. Right. Instead of a mini golf putter. But yeah, but then Happy has a gift for Chubbs, too, which is in, you know, in a. A wicker basket or something, like, with a blanket over it, as if he's been using it like either a footstool or a coffee table. But inside is the head of the alligator that he killed that got Chubbs's hand.

Nic

You know that alligator that got your hand? Well, I got his head. And he reviews it. And Chubbs, obviously is terrified.

Steve

Freaks out.

Nic

Oh, backs out and falls out the window.

Steve

Yeah. And can we talk for a second about the. The fact that that window is definitely not up to code? Like, why would you have the sill of that window be just 6 inches off the ground?

Nic

That's a. Yeah, that's a defenestration risk for sure.

Steve

I think we should probably. Maybe. Maybe after this, if we're done recording, I'm gonna go back and watch the beginning and see if. In the scene where the old lady is making breakfast, if that window is visible anywhere.

Nic

Okay.

Steve

Because I can't imagine that's actually there anymore.

Nic

Yeah, that. That's not a safe window. It's, like, halfway between a sliding door and a window. But it does allow Chubs to fall out the window. And then again, an immediate cut to. To the guy being dead.

Steve

Like. Yeah.

Nic

His picture with the flowers and stuff. And the hand. Yeah.

Steve

His wooden hand is, like, on a.

Nic

Pedestal casket or whatever.

Steve

Yeah.

Nic

And. And Shooter McGavin. Because this is all kind of set up at the site of the tournament, right? Shooter tells Pappy's like, I think I'm gonna play in honor of Chuck.

Steve

Just to just dedicate my play today and to Chubb's memory. Hey, I'm playing for Chubbs. You know, I called it first, like.

Nic

And I forget what brought this up, but where Shooter says, yeah, and Grizzly Adams had a beard. And then Lee Trevino. Grizzly Adams did have a beard.

Steve

Because the joke. The way you use that phrase, right, is like, well, did Grizzly. It's like. It's like, you know, does the Pope wear a hat? Like, you know, it's like, does Grizzly Adams have a beard? Yes, of course he does. That's why he's called Grizzly Adams.

Nic

Anyway, we basically now are coming into our final tournament. We've got Shooter and we've got Happy. And they're. Are they paired? They're paired.

Steve

They're paired up together at the beginning, which is odd. Like, it makes sense that they're paired up for rounds 2, 3, 4. Because you do that by ranking. But to have them paired up at the beginning initially doesn't make any sense. Because especially for the Tour Championship, that should be based on, like, world ranking at the time. And there's no way Shooter should be number one. We're getting no reason to think he's not. There's no way. Happy's the second close. Yeah, he's missed a month. He hasn't played in a month because of suspension. So it's weird that they're paired up. But whatever, we're gonna let that go. It does make sense as they move on though, the fact that the two of them are the tour, are the leaders in the tournament. They. They would be paired in future rounds.

Nic

Right.

Steve

But yeah, so.

Nic

Oh, we have kind of a montage here. And this I thought was kind of also funny to point out we have a Subway spokesperson in subway logo gear participating in a montage as Gary Glitters Rock and Roll Part two plays. So this is a, this is a double whoopsie daisy. Oh, in hindsight, man, all you needed.

Steve

Was to have a TV on in the background with a jello pudding pop commercial.

Nic

Seriously.

Steve

Oh, the trifecta of horrificness.

Nic

Okay, so we have some back and forth here. And Shooter has once again paid the jackass. Paid this guy again. And I like this guy's suggestion to Shooter. Like, Shooter, you want to hang out, you want to go to Red Lobster.

Steve

You want to go to the Sizzler? Sizzler nearby.

Nic

I love these things that he's suggesting.

Steve

Shooter. I thought we were going to be friends. I thought we were going to be friends.

Nic

And he comes in and he hits. He drives a Volkswagen Bug onto the course and hits Happy Gilmore car.

Steve

Yeah.

Nic

And Happy is like definitely shaken up. Definitely mess. And it goes crashing into this like TV camera tower.

Steve

Tower.

Nic

Yeah. And then they just leave it there. And that's like, all right, well, here we are.

Steve

Nobody does it. They. They take the. Leave it where. Play it where it lies. A little too seriously. I think on that case, they probably should have tried to repair that tower.

Nic

Yeah.

Steve

Or take it down or something. And yeah. The fact that Happy is given and you know, the doctor comes over and is like, okay, well just stay off your feet for a couple days. And he's like, no, no, I gotta play. What do I know? I'm just a doctor.

Nic

Yeah, I love that.

Steve

And how do you get a car onto the course like that? That can't be easy. You know, and, and, and to. It's just, you know, it's one of those movie magic.

Nic

But like, plus they have a 90 degree rule and he wouldn't have been able to be allowed to drive it.

Steve

It's just strange that that that would even happen.

Nic

But, but his shoulders messed up, right? So he's kind of lost his powers. He is Teen Wolf who's been turned back into Michael J. Fox. He is, you know, every. What of these things. Rocky, where he has to fight left handed.

Steve

Rookie of the year. When. When the kid can't throw the fast.

Nic

Pitch anymore, he has to go straight EFIs. For every pitch.

Steve

Exactly.

Nic

But yeah. So now. Now our hero has lost his powers in addition to already kind of being an underdog, and he's got a. You know, he's got to figure out what's going on, and he's kind of losing it. And, you know, grandma is there for support, which.

Steve

Why hasn't she been of every one.

Nic

Of them presented to him for a second.

Steve

Well, it's like, it's clear thing. Like, look who showed up. It's Grandma. It's like, why. I mean, I guess anything nearby she should have been going to. Right.

Nic

I mean, he would have hotel and stuff paid for him. I mean, he could bring her around everywhere if he wanted to.

Steve

Yeah. Very strange.

Nic

But she. She's not allowed to talk about how bad that retirement home is, so he thinks that she's living it up. That's a great time.

Steve

Yeah. Helen would kill her.

Nic

But grandma just says, yeah, I just want you to be happy.

Steve

Right.

Nic

Like, and then he's like, great, you know, good news.

Steve

That's his name.

Nic

Yeah. And there's this one random crowd member, and I don't know why this line is kept in or if it was some kind of a cameo, but there's a guy who says, happy, the gold jacket's yours. Shooter's gonna choke. And it's just the most poorly delivered line I've ever seen. I don't know why it's in there. Unless it's like Alan Covert's friend.

Steve

Right. We've talked in last week's episode, we talked a little bit about actors making choices versus just sort of. Sort of saying words.

Nic

Yeah.

Steve

That was a man just saying words. There was no choice being made there. That was not good acting. Shoot is going to choke. Gold jackets. Yo, Happy. Like, it's just very strange. Yeah. So that there may be some good reason that person's there that neither of us are aware of.

Nic

Yeah.

Steve

I will accept that as a possibility. But yeah. So we get. We're getting through to close to the end of. Of the tournament, to the, I think the final hole. They're actually tied, I believe. And so Happy, he tees off first and gets all the way to the green. That's great. So now Shooter's got to go. But Shooter ends up shanking the ball and kind of getting out into the rough. And where the ball actually lands is on the foot of Mr. Larson. Yeah, he's back. And he has a wonderful shirt on that says, guns don't kill people. I kill people.

Nic

Great.

Steve

And so he's got to Play the ball off of the foot, which, again, I get the idea that you. You play it where it lies, but I have to feel like this is some kind of interference where they would have at least just told the man, just move your foot. And wherever the ball drops, you'll have to. He'll have to play from there. But you just move your foot, sir.

Nic

Right.

Steve

But no, he has to hit it off of his foot. And he does in a way that clearly, to shooters credit, doesn't hit the man's. It doesn't hit Mr. Larson's foot. He clearly doesn't hurt him. It was. He's able to do it. And so he, like, three putts or sort of whatever it's like, basically gets to the point where he took three. He took four shots to get into the hole. So as long as. As Happy does in two, more or less because he's already on the green, he'll be fine. But as Happy walks up ready to take his. His putt, the TV tower that two guys are now trying to climb in order to get a better view of things that was hit by Joe Flaherty's character earlier, falls down and right in between where Happy's ball is and where the cup is. So now it's like, what's he supposed to do? And so Virginia runs over, and he's like, oh, look, we'll get this cleaned up. You'll. You'll finish tomorrow. Like, don't worry about it. And Shooter's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I had to hit the ball off of Frankenstein's fat foot over there. He's got to play it where it lies. And Doug the President Tour agrees with him, which is like. Of all the, like, dumb golf decision, you know, I don't know. This is like, this would just. This would never happen more than all the other stuff that would never happen.

Nic

Yeah.

Steve

You know what I mean? It's like, this is so egregiously like. No, like, you. You clear the damn green and you let them play the game. Like, it's so silly. But luckily he had that crazy mini golf experience with Chub, and there was.

Nic

Like, turned into the exact last hole.

Steve

So he kind of looks and goes, oh, I could go there. He kind of looks around. He goes, no, I'll just beat him now. Which is a great line as well.

Nic

Yeah.

Steve

But, yeah, so he ends up. He ends up hitting the ball. It, like, bounces off the hood of the car and then up onto, like, the part of the TV tower and rolls down. I Love it. To get a. Normally it's in movies when people are watching tennis matches where the audience is looking. Yes to right, to left, right. But they do that as they're watching the ball go down. And of course, course, you know, the last pipe or whatever the ball goes through is aimed at, right at the cup and there it goes. And so he gets it in and one and wins.

Nic

Really good. Oh, and so, yeah, so he wins and grandma's gonna get her house and Happy, you know, is gonna win the jacket.

Steve

Yeah, he's got his gold jacket.

Nic

But Shooter, that's my jacket, I'm taking it. So he grabs it, runs away. You know, Mr. Larson's, I believe that's Mr. Gilmore's jacket. I don't know if you were paying attention to this, but something that I noticed throughout the movie is Mr. Larson, I mean that actor, you don't become 7:2 generally without, without a lot of like associated health problems, pituitary issues and things.

Steve

Yeah.

Nic

And he clearly has no mobility. So every time they're showing him supposed to do something, he's like discreetly leaning on something. And then even the running, it's just him doing this.

Steve

He was like he had pulled on.

Nic

A card or something.

Steve

I think even just they were moving the camera towards him as he just like. Yeah, exactly.

Nic

So yeah, it was kind of sad to be like a man. I mean this guy probably couldn't beat up Shooter McGavin in real life.

Steve

Right. Because they, they, they went and had him yelling after him while they're showing a crowd running after Shooter. But then you hear Shooter off screen getting beat up ostensibly by Mr. Larson, who we haven't even seen run by. So it's like. But apparently he got to himself cuz.

Nic

He'S not running with the crowd. His running scene is fully independent.

Steve

Exactly.

Nic

So yeah, it's just interesting noticing stuff like that where you have like a limited guy, but really funny. And he said something earlier about, you know, oh, if Happy gets it in this many putts, like he's going to win. And she was like, oh great, you can count. He's like, and you can count on me to meet you in the parking lot after the tournament. Oh, so funny. So yeah, so Happy wins and then that's it. We're kind of like, Tuesday's gone, right?

Steve

We go back to Lynyrd Skynyrd. And there's a funny thing I'll say this about. So Julie Bowen at the end of Virginia vended at the end of this movie, they all get out of the car. It's the Caddy and Grandma and Happy and Virgin Virginia. I'll get out of the car at Grandma's house or going back to Grandma's house. He's got, like, champagne or something. Right, Right. What Julie Bowen is wearing in this scene, to me looks like a nightgown or lingerie or. She does not look like an outdoor daytime outfit. It's very silky and very short. And it's like, what a weird costume choice to have her wear this at this point. But, like, whatever. It's all good. She looks great in it. Obviously. Yeah. But, yeah, so that's it.

Nic

Oh, and they look into the. The heavens above the heavens house, and it's Chubs and alligator and Abraham Lincoln, which I always.

Steve

I always. In my head. Canon was just a. That was a Return of the Jedi reference. Right. To see Obi Wan and Yoda at the end, I feel like that's sort of the reference he was making.

Nic

Yeah, I don't know that for sure.

Steve

But that's in my head. But, yeah, but, yeah, that's it. We. We finished the movie with the same song. We started it with great, great bookends of Tuesday's Gone, and that's. That's Happy Gilmore.

Nic

Yeah. Really good.

Steve

Very cool.

Nic

Very fun. Should I. Wait, who's reviewing first?

Steve

You go for it.

Nic

Okay. So, yeah, again, always like this one. A couple things to bring up. The music in this film by Mark Mothersbaugh of Devo. Right. I didn't notice too much about the music in the movie because when I saw that name, I was like, oh, that's interesting. That's notable. And, like, that didn't come up too much. And then Julie Bowen, I talked about earlier, is, like, one of the best comedic actors, actresses we have. I think it's fantastic. Claire Dunphy in Modern Family is. She's so funny. And it's not like. It's just well written. Like, she is great. She is excellent. And she has nothing to do in this movie. No, she is strictly just.

Steve

She.

Nic

She might as well be saying, happy, the cool jacket's yours.

Steve

You're just gonna choke. Like, yeah. I mean, the movie needed a lot.

Nic

They had more for her, and I like her, and I'm glad things worked out for later. But, man, this was so much fun. The jokes were very good. Just so much good Sandler stuff and a lot of cameos that were excellent. The sports action looked good.

Steve

Yeah.

Nic

I'm giving this a four out of five. I still really, really enjoyed it. And. Yeah. What'd you think? Of this one.

Steve

Yeah, it's funny. I actually. I don't think I liked it as much as I remember liking it. Like, it was definitely a situation where I don't know that all the jokes hold up for me. It was a ton of fun. I totally enjoyed the movie, don't get me wrong. But it was, like, definitely parts of it where I. When I kind of look back and I'm trying to be a little intellectually consistent with the different, you know, ratings that we're giving the films that we're watching, I actually looked back and went.

Nic

I'm afraid to do that.

Steve

Yeah. So I went back and it looks like, what, do I give other movies for this? Or whatever. And I felt, in some ways, not. Not that I felt the movies are the same, but I felt very similar to our first film. We talked about Groundhog Day, where it was like, this is still a really good movie, but I don't. I remembered liking it better than I liked it watching it. Yeah. And so similarly to Groundhog Day, I'm giving a three and a half out of five, and it's still a very good movie. I'm not. I'm not trying to downplay it, but Happy Gilmore gets a three and a half. For me, you know, it was still fun, but it just, like, I remember it being this sort of, like, tour de force that it didn't quite live up to in my head. And I think maybe part of it was, yeah, Julie Bowen is woefully underutilized. You know, Christopher McDonald tries to make up for that as much as he can because he's funnier than Adam Sandler in this movie.

Nic

Yeah.

Steve

When he first turned, when the first time he meets Mr. Larson. And. Oh, my God. And Mr. Larson. Yeah. Is like, you know, like, are you going to try to hit the green from here, Shooter? He goes, that's not possible, sir, but I beg to differ. Happy Gilmore did that not. Not an hour ago. And he goes, well, and he turns around and he just turns what he was going to say into, oh, my God, it's just perfect delivery. Love, Christopher McDonald. But, yeah, I'm a three and a half on Happy Gilmore. I enjoyed it. I will watch it again. It's still a lot of fun. But, yeah, that's. That's where I sit with this one. So I think what makes us a seven and a half out of 10.

Nic

Which is about fair.

Steve

Very good.

Nic

Hey. For a comedy from that age, you know, because comedy. Comedy tends to not age well.

Steve

Yeah.

Nic

Generally. And then the nature of comedies really changed in kind of the early 2000s when we got hit with like the Apatow wave of stuff. Right. So compared to something like a wanderluster. I love you, man. Like, there aren't as many, like, Laugh out Loud, really. But for its time, this was. This was incredible. So, yeah, seven and a half. That's pretty good.

Steve

I like it. Very cool. All right, Nic, this was my next time. Yeah. What are we watching next week?

Nic

Okay, well, we've done a couple funny ones in a row and I think we're going to stay in the zone. Also something that has a sequel upcoming.

Steve

Ooh. Okay.

Nic

And this is a movie that I think we're going to release the episode for this around when the sequel comes out.

Steve

Nice.

Nic

We're going back to 1988, I believe, and we've got some people we haven't seen so far. We've got Leslie Nielsen.

Steve

Oh, yes.

Nic

We've got little known actor named O.J. simpson. I don't know if we heard of. He's very funny in this. We got Priscilla Presley. We got a lot of goofy stuff. So many good gags. We're gonna watch the Naked Gun.

Steve

Perfect.

Nic

And we have the sequel coming up. So it'll be exciting to kind of to go through this before we have the new one, which you and I both talked off the pod. Like, we're very optimistic about because of the people involved.

Steve

Yeah, I think, I think that. So it's very funny when you look at, you know, looking back at this movie. I've seen this movie many, many, many times. Love the Naked Gun. Obviously it was a. A movie adaptation of the TV series the Police Squad. Police Squad, Right. Which is only around for like one season.

Nic

Very short lived, really hard to find.

Steve

Yeah.

Nic

Only on dvd.

Steve

Right. So. But I always love. Because, you know, Leslie Nielsen, I know he went gray early like Steve Martin, but he looks so old compared to like Priscilla Presley in this movie. And so the Frank Drebin character being so much like the character being so much younger than the actor seemed. They really lean into that in the new version with like a 70 something year old Liam Neeson playing. Playing the 50ish, maybe character of Frank Drebins.

Nic

Yeah, yeah.

Steve

Grandson, I believe out his son. I don't know how. We'll see how it goes, but yeah. In the meantime, before that comes out and we can enjoy that, we will watch Naked Gun. And I'm super excited about that. That's gonna be great.

Nic

All right.

Steve

Very cool. Okay, well, this has been Happy Gilmore. And folks, if you like what you're hearing. Go over to Apple, give us a five star review. Go to Spotify, give us a five star review and throw us a follow. That'd be fantastic. If you want to send us an email and like, you know, correct us some things that we said wrong, because we always do. We say things wrong every time. You can send us an email at the show@2dads1movie.com. That's number two. And the number one. Yeah. This has been Happy Gilmore. This has been 2Dads1 Movie. I'm Steve.

Nic

And I'm Nic.

Steve

Everybody take care and watch Happy Gilmore, too.

Nic

Yeah. Enjoy. We're really, our fingers are very much crossed for this one. We're rooting for it.

Steve

All right, take care, everybody. Thanks so much.

Nic

Bye.