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Intro Clip

Alice! Is this cool? Yeah, come on in. Sorry to bother you, but we had to come and tell you how much we really enjoyed the show, didn't we, Garth? Hey, hey, hey. Oh, thanks. We're not mental or anything, so don't be afraid. My name is Wayne, and this is Garth. Nice to meet you guys. So, do you— Come to Milwaukee often? Well, I'm a regular visitor here, but Milwaukee has certainly had its share of visitors. The French missionaries and explorers were coming here as early as the late 1600s to trade with the Native Americans. In fact, isn't Milwaukee an Indian name? Yes, Pete, it is. Actually, it's pronounced "Mee-lee-wah-kay," which is Algonquin for "the good land." I was not aware of that. I think one of the most interesting aspects of Milwaukee is the fact that it's the only major American city to have ever elected 3 socialist mayors. Does this guy know how to party or what? Huh? Huh? Oh. Okay. Well, we gotta get going. No, no, no. Stick around. Hang out with us. Cool. Yeah, we'll stay and hang around with yous. With Alice Cooper. We're not worthy! We're not worthy! We're not worthy! We suck!

Steve

It's 2 Dads 1 Movie. It's the podcast where two middle-aged dads sit around and shoot the shit about the movies of the '80s and '90s. Here are your hosts, Steve Paulo and Nic Briana. Hello, everybody. Welcome to another episode of 2 Dads 1 Movie. I'm Steve.

Nic

And I'm Nic.

Steve

And today we continue our march through 2 Dads 2 Decades into the '90s to 1992 and the comedy classic Wayne's World. Party on, Nic.

Nic

Party on, Steve.

Steve

So I picked Wayne's World for us. This, you know, to me, I was looking at what came out in '92 and also what we've been watching over the last few weeks. And there have been some fairly heavy pictures. Yeah. Over the last few weeks, especially the last two with Sleeping with the Enemy and Goodfellas. So I thought, hey, let's break it up a little bit. Let's do a little, a little comedy. And this was such a great movie to do because this is definitely what I saw in the theater. 100%. This was, you know, my parents took me to see this. I think we were like 12 when this came out. So it was like prime time to go see a movie like this. And, you know, it stuck. Like so much of this movie stuck with me and I think with other people our age throughout our lives. And I still literally the other day in a professional setting found myself saying, excuse me, baking powder, like literally at work. Now I work remotely, so it was over a Zoom call, but the point is I said it and I'm 46 years old. So it just seemed like a real no-brainer to do Wayne's World when we got to '92. You know, this really was a feather in the cap of Dana Carvey's career, but like really helped kick off Mike Myers as a movie star. And there's so many people, like all cameos and people playing themselves. The supporting cast is just really, really great. All around. And yeah, I was just really excited to talk about Wayne's World with you. And, and, you know, that's kind of why, why we picked it for this week, why I brought it here this week. What's your history, Nic, with Wayne's World?

Nic

Oh man. So I don't think I saw this in the theater, but definitely soon after it came out on video, this hit at the perfect time. I was probably just like you getting into SNL and all that stuff right around that age, like, you know, 12, 13.

Steve

Yeah.

Nic

When you can start staying up late and catching it because there's no— yeah, yeah, there's no recording it or whatever, so you had to stay up to watch it.

Steve

Yeah.

Nic

Um, and my daughter right now is 14, and she's been really into SNL over the last few years. Like, it's kind of the, the age where it's hitting you, even the older stuff and everything. Um, so yeah, I love the sketch on SNL, uh, and then when I saw this movie, yeah, it's fantastic. It does such a good job. And, and like you've talked about, there's a spectrum of SNL movie, uh, successes, and this is definitely on the, on the higher end of that.

Steve

This and Wayne's 2, which we'll do at some point, because 2 is one of the better comedy sequels ever, really. Yeah, they're, they're probably the number 1 and number 2 of the, like, SNL sketches turned movies. I mean, there are others that are good, but like, it's hard to top these 2.

Nic

They're, they're 3 and 4 for me, uh, because I like the Blues Brothers.

Steve

Oh, and MacGruber.

Nic

And I like MacGruber. But I— they're all great. They're all like the top end of them. They're not an It's Pat or The Ladies Man. Yeah, Coneheads, like, uh, Coneheads gave us a great Red Hot Chili Peppers song. It's true. If someone who thinks that's a real thing. So yeah, I thought this movie was fun. And again, so quotable. Like, how often were us and our friends in middle school and high school just like firing things back and forth? Where again, if you don't watch this often, you just say things in your life and then you watch the movie, you're like, oh my God, that's a Wayne's World thing. I've been saying this to my cousin for years.

Steve

You've been saying schwing to your cousin for years?

Nic

Yeah, well, it's been a big problem.

Steve

Funky family reunions over there at Nic's house. All right, cool.

Nic

Like, he and I have an understanding.

Steve

Good. I'm glad. As long as it's mutual. Okay, let's jump into the facts on Wayne's World. All right. The movie Wayne's World was released on Valentine's Day, February 14th, 1992. Speaking of schwing. Yeah. With a PG-13 rating and a running time of 94 minutes. Directed by Penelope Spheeris, written by Mike Myers, Bonnie Turner, and Terry Turner. Starring Mike Myers, Dana Carvey, and Rob Lowe. The score is very respectable scores, a 79% from Rotten Tomatoes, a 7.0 even from IMDb, which is honestly a 79 on Rotten Tomatoes is a much better score than a 7 on IMDb. It's actually a little low on IMDb, but 2 thumbs up from Siskel and Ebert. They clearly understood the assignment, realized what they were looking at.

Nic

Yep. And Chicago homers also.

Steve

There you go. That's true. It's a Chicago type movie. Quite a bit of awards activity. It was nominated for 4 1993 MTV Movie Awards. It won one of them. It won the Best On-Screen Duo for Carvey and Myers, but was also nominated for Most Desirable Female. Tia Carrere was nominated. She lost to Linda Hamilton in T2. And then both Myers and Carvey, separately from each other, were 2 of the 5 nominees for Best Comedic Performance that year. They lost to Billy Crystal in City Slickers, which—.

Nic

That's a split the vote type situation.

Steve

Yeah, that's a weird one in my opinion. But Anyway, and then also interestingly, at the MTV Video Music Awards that year, the video for, that was re-released for Bohemian Rhapsody by Queen that incorporated scenes from this movie, won best video from a movie. So technically this was a win for Wayne's World as well. On a $20 million budget, which like, not sure where that shows up on the screen, but it was a $20 million budget. So, okay.

Nic

Music, I mean.

Steve

I guess that's true.

Nic

The music that they had to pay for.

Steve

Yes, that's a good point. $183 million at the box office, more than 9 times what it cost. Blockbuster by any measure. And obviously one of the reasons why this movie got a sequel that came out like 18 months later, the sequel comes out and there were more and more, you know, Lorne Michaels produced SNL type comedy movies throughout the '90s, not most of which did not hit like this. But because this one hit so big, it was a green light.

Nic

It's worth it.

Steve

Yeah.

Nic

Just give it a shot.

Steve

Exactly. Yeah.

Nic

Wayne's World 2, check out Wayne's World 2 for sure. It's really good.

Steve

We will absolutely do that because that, again, I honestly believe it is one of the best comedy sequels.

Nic

It stands on its own. It could have been just Wayne's World and it would have been a satisfactory Wayne's World. Like, it would have been a great Wayne's World.

Steve

Yeah, I mean, it does a good job of picking up where this one leaves off and sort of like incorporating the events of this movie into it. But it also could be standalone, which is I think also the mark of a really well-premised sketch, right? When SNL has good recurring sketches, it's because the storyline isn't as interesting. It doesn't matter as much as the characters, but those characters can take us anywhere we want to go with them, right? And that's sort of of the thing we have with Wayne Campbell and Garth Algar. All right, let's kick it off. So the way Wayne's World begins, we are watching TV. And it turns out we are watching TV with Rob Lowe. His character's name is Benjamin. He's in his apartment or whatever in Chicago, big high-rise apartment in Chicago with the beautiful Ione Skye, who we probably remember as Diana or Diane or Diana from Say Anything. She was like the main character, John Cusack. Pined After and Say Anything. That's where I remember Ione Skye from. Beautiful woman. She's not in this very much, but she is the one flipping channels. And we see a couple of classic sort of late '80s, early '90s commercials. We got the Clapper. You know, there's a handful of other things that like—.

Nic

Chia Pet.

Steve

Yeah, Chia Pet's on there. But she flips and she gets to cable access channel 10, Aurora, Illinois. And it's Wayne's World. And she's laughing at it. And Benjamin's like, what the hell is this? And she goes, oh my God, this is hilarious. Everybody loves these guys. And he immediately is like, Hey, we've got somebody for Vanderhoff. We actually did see the ad. Brian Doyle-Murray plays Noah Vanderhoff, who runs Noah's Arcade. Fucking worst pun name I've ever heard, and I love puns. But, you know, he does his own little commercial about, you know, come play Xantar and Space Invaders and shit like that at my arcades. And so immediately Benjamin's like, hey, I think we got something we can sell to Vanderhoff, is what he says. So he's immediately already thinking, he's planning, he's sort of figuring stuff out. They are eating Shakey's, by the way. They mentioned specifically that.

Nic

That's right. Shakey's pizza.

Steve

Of the reference in Ferris Bueller's Day Off. That's right, that's where it came from. The restaurant was called Shakey's. Yeah, and it's a reference to Shakey's as well.

Nic

So, uh, and, and on the Wayne's World show, they have a special guest who's this guy, the inventor of the Suck Cut, which is like a Flowbee type thing, right? Vacuum haircutting, uh, device, also named, I think, in reference to Ron Popeil.

Steve

His name is Ron Paxton.

Nic

Oh, okay.

Steve

I imagine they did a Ron Popeil joke by calling him that, but I don't know, maybe not.

Nic

RIP to Ron Popeil, I think. Um, so, uh, yeah, so he's He's sucking— he's, he's, uh, cutting Garth's hair with this. And Dana Carvey, very funny with the physical stuff and like his reactions to— one of the challenges with bringing, um, a short-form SNL sketch to a movie is like adding extra attributes to the characters to make them interesting. And they do such a good job in this with Garth, with just extending the Garth character, because you don't get indications of like the way he really is. And all the choices they make— his car is perfect, like all these things are just so good. So I love Garth's reaction. Like, you know, he's freaking out and everything. And of course Benjamin doesn't get this and his lady loves it. It's the funniest thing in the world, which is just a perfect— this happens with every generation where there's the thing that all the kids love and you just don't get it.

Steve

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Nic

You're like, I don't know, it's making money. I mean, how many times do you try to show somebody I Think You Should Leave or you try to show them the Eric Andre Show or whatever and they're like, what the fuck is this? So, uh, I can definitely relate to her there.

Steve

It's goddamn comedy gold is what it is. You should respect, respect that Tim Robinson, the Detroiters. Yeah.

Nic

Um, yeah, so, uh, so just kind of a goofy scene there. And then we have Wayne kind of like talking to the camera and introducing everybody.

Steve

He spends a lot of time talking directly to the camera in this, and there's a joke at one point, uh, we'll get to it soon, but he jokes about, hey, only Wayne, only Garth and I can talk to the camera kind of thing. Uh, but he starts— and I love that he kicks off with "Let me bring you up to speed." And it's just like, you know, and he lays out the whole thing and it's like, look, if you're familiar with the SNL sketch, this would technically be unnecessary. He talks about how, you know, he's got this cable access show, his best friend Garth, he lives with his parents. But like all this stuff is either explicitly called out in the sketches or obvious. I mean, there were sketches where Wayne's mom would yell down the stairs to the basement to them and he'd yell back or whatever, right? So all this stuff was kind of known, but by giving it to us right here, you don't have to have seen the sketch to enjoy the show, to enjoy the movie. And I think that's important. And I also think it's the kind of thing where I think this is an example of Wayne— excuse me, of Michael— Mike Myers and Dana Carvey having created more backstory for these characters than they ever needed on SNL. Right. And I really think— yeah, I'm sure some of the work came in transitioning to the movie, but I'll bet you there were things that Dana knew about Garth that never showed up on screen, but he knew them.

Nic

But it informs the way that he plays the character. But you don't have to talk about it. Yeah, that's— that's a good point. They must have thought this out.

Steve

And so then when they came to like, hey, let's write the movie, it was like, cool, we already know so much about these two. What set pieces can we put them in that are fun? And that's really what you end up with this sort of sketch adjacent, you know, comedy movie. But yeah, we also meet the Mirthmobile, right? So, and there's a little bit of weird geography going on here that I'll call out later in the movie as well. But like, it's hard to tell who the Mirthmobile belongs to because at one point it looks like it's Wayne's car, at another point it looks like it's Garth's car. It's hard to tell if they live across the street from each other or not. I think they do, but then where is Garth driving up from? And if they just left the recording, I guess maybe they returned the van and are coming back 'cause it's the crew is with them, or at least 2 out of the 3 guys. Is with them in the Mirthmobile. So I guess maybe they delivered, they brought the broadcast truck back to the cable access place and then are now returning, I guess. Okay. But there's a weird jump.

Nic

Yeah, they are both driving the car and the Mirthmobile is this blue AMC Gremlin that has like flames on the side of it. It is just so, so perfect for a funny movie car.

Steve

Yes.

Nic

You know, they nailed it.

Steve

Absolutely. And so they put on some music and of course this is the sequence As we're driving around Aurora and getting some like establishing shots of different businesses and different things in the area, we get Bohemian Rhapsody by Queen. I don't know about you, but this was literally the first time I'd ever heard Bohemian Rhapsody when I watched this movie.

Nic

Okay, so at this time, because I knew who Queen was and stuff and I knew We Will Rock You and everything, and I had never heard Bohemian Rhapsody. Yeah, I swear to this day, every 5 years there's a new Queen song that comes out where I'm like, there's not— how would I have not heard that shit before? But yeah, dude, with you.

Steve

Yeah, yeah. Because I think I knew, I knew We Will Rock You. I think I knew We Are the Champions. And that was probably it. My parents just weren't big Queen fans, so this wasn't in the normal rotation of stuff they played for us on road trips. I heard a lot of Beatles, Elton John, Billy Joel, stuff like that. Not Queen so much. But it was actually funny after this, I think my dad, I remember now, my dad bought like a Queen's Greatest Hits, you know, tape.

Nic

Classic Queen, I remember that. Right, yeah. 2 volumes of it.

Steve

Because then I got to know like Fat Bottom Girls and Bicycle Race and Flash Gordon and all that other stuff. So over time, but yeah, this was my first experience of Bohemian Rhapsody. I think it was a lot people our age or younger. Yeah, a lot of us, it was our first experience with Bohemian Rhapsody, and it's fucking great, and it still holds up. It's fun. They're doing the headbanging, they're doing the singing along. It's just—.

Nic

It's 5 minutes into the movie and it's already given us a ton. I mean, they're— this is a very densely packed movie.

Steve

Absolutely. And so, uh, along their drive, they pause the song at one point, sort of before the, the real melodic slow part, and they see their buddy Phil, and it's like, Phil, you already partied out. The dude looks like he's gonna throw up like the second whatever. And, and but Wayne tells Garth, he's like, I give you a no puke guarantee or whatever. No hurl guarantee. And, and this is why I think it's Garth's car, because Garth is the one so worried about puking in the Mirthmobile. Even though Wayne drives it later, I do feel like, you know, this is probably Garth's car because he's like, oh dude, what if he hurls? Yeah, yeah.

Nic

Uh, one of the stops that they make is the local kind of music store, and they drive by so that Wayne can like window gaze at his dream guitar, which is sitting there in the, in the window there, this white Fender Stratocaster, which is You know, just beautiful.

Steve

He calls it Excalibur.

Nic

Yeah.

Steve

He's like, it will be mine. Oh yes, it will be mine.

Nic

Shout out to my cousin Jen. That is one that we say back and forth.

Steve

The other thing.

Nic

So, so they end up making the stop at Stan Makita's Donuts.

Steve

Yes.

Nic

And Stan Makita was a Blackhawks player.

Steve

Yes, he was. And this was— I referenced him in Ferris Bueller as well because I thought it would have made more sense for Cameron to be wearing a Stan Makita jersey than a Gordie Howe jersey. So yeah, it's his donut shop, or I guess, you know, he probably owns— here's the thing, I don't know if there's a real Stamakitas Donuts or not, because I could imagine the way that a lot of like ex-sports stars go into like, I own a used car dealership in the town I played in. I could see a chain of donut shops.

Nic

Totally.

Steve

Yeah. That's the thing you do. Um, but out front—.

Nic

Isn't Tim Horton, wasn't he a hockey player?

Steve

I think he was a hockey player. Maple Leafs, I think. Yes, exactly. So, but, uh, so they go outside and we meet Officer Koharski, who's this very, you know, sort of He looks too tan. He looks very leather.

Nic

I think this is the guy that played, um, O'Malley, uh, Steven Seagal's buddy in the movie Hard to Kill.

Steve

Oh, I don't think I've seen it.

Nic

And, uh, yeah, good to see him. It's, it's fun to see Gen X people giving shit to a cop because I feel like every Gen X person I know in my life just could not love cops more. So it's great to see them making these, uh, bacon jokes to the cop.

Steve

Why didn't you just follow directions? Well, just, just, just, just do what you're told. Just do what you're told and everything will be fine. Yeah. So I smell bacon. And Kowarski, to his credit, is like, "Ha ha, that's what you're doing." Yeah, good.

Nic

Give each other shit.

Steve

Because he even says, "I remember when I was a teenager and I used to say that kind of shit to cops." So that's funny. So Kowarski's okay. But he tells them the story about, you know, a tour bus going through town and they got tips that there was drugs on board. So they had to search the bus, didn't find anything, and then had to do full body cavity searches. And he goes, "I inspected 14 individuals myself." "Just gross." And then there's this moment where he says that and then Phil looks like he's gonna hurl. So they're like, "This guy needs coffee and Crueller stat," right? And they wanna get him aside. But Kojarski's holding a quarter like there's a joke that was pulled. I think there was a joke cut out of this moment because he's holding a quarter and he ends up like flipping it or dropping it and picking it up or something. But it's like, I'm imagining him like, "I pulled this right out of a guy or something." And that's what makes Phil go, but they decided to cut that. But he's holding his quarter in a way that's like, that's— there's a reason he's holding that quarter that way. That's not just random, you know.

Nic

This movie does a great job of staying solidly PG and nibbling around any real reference. Like, even they're not— they're talking about their friend Phil who's partied out. Yeah, but they're never like, he got drunk last night, he's hungover, he— you know, like, they really don't quite touch all this stuff. They do make it kind of so a kid could watch it and not really feel like they don't understand everything happened.

Steve

You're 100% right on a lot of that. It is PG-13, and I think that they— it's a pretty solid PG-13. And the problem with some of the "this will go over kids' heads" stuff is that kids will repeat stuff.

Nic

Sure.

Steve

I've repeated— and this is later in the movie— but "the cream of some young guy" is something I said as a child.

Nic

That's definitely—.

Steve

And had to be told to knock it the fuck off. Yeah. Because I had no idea what the hell that joke was. I just knew that like everybody reacted to it on screen. Yeah. Like, but anyway, so yeah, so now we get into Stan Makita's Donuts. And we meet Glenn, played by the incomparable Ed Harris.

Nic

Not Ed Harris.

Steve

Ed O'Neill. Ed O'Neill, thank you.

Nic

That's how incomparable he is.

Steve

Incomparable, no, but played by Al Bundy. And he gives us, and he talks directly to the camera, and he's the first person who isn't Wayne or Garth to speak directly to the camera, and tells us this thing about like, "When you kill a man in battle, they call it heroic. But if you do it in a fit of passion, it's murder." And he's like pissed about it. And Wayne's like, "Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Like too heavy, too dark, and only Garth and I can talk to the camera.

Nic

What are you doing?" That is so effective, right? For a couple reasons. Because one, it's showing us that some random other character can start talking to the screen at any time.

Steve

Right, right.

Nic

And then also that it can go really dark, like, you know, kind of an Adam Sandler movie way where there's just this level of darkness. So now the scope of what we might experience in this movie has been pushed out. So we're like, dude, I don't know what the hell is going to happen.

Steve

It's interesting because clearly the first act of this movie, the early part, and I don't really think that it, that it comes back in many ways. It does a little bit later. But really, the whole first act of this movie feels like it's almost like a mockumentary. It almost feels like a This Is Spinal Tap kind of situation where Wayne and Garth are deliberately having like a camera crew follow them. And obviously that's not what's happening. We don't get any of that explicit, but the way that Wayne especially just is constantly talking to the camera and referring to it and stuff, it gives it that feel. That goes away quite a bit in the second act. It comes back a little in the third, but like, you know, it's a big thing early on here. So yeah, so basically this is, and this is when we're kind of getting introduced to more and more characters in this world. And Terry, one of the sort of like crew guys for the show, and then another of the crew guys, are sitting with this old guy, Old Man Withers, and, hey, it's Old Man Withers who runs the amusement park, which is like, well, boy, that's going to, you know, it's one of those plants that you see in the setting of Chekhov's Gun that's coming back somehow later. But yeah, but you found out a little bit about Mr. Withers.

Nic

So this, this guy who plays Old Man Withers has this perfect old man look.

Steve

Yes.

Nic

His real name is Carmen Filippi. F-I-L-P-P-I.

Steve

Okay.

Nic

Okay.

Steve

Filippi.

Nic

And he died several years ago, lived to the ripe old age of 80. So good for him. But my wife and I were watching this and she was like, he's always an old man and stuff. Like, what are his other roles? And we go to his roles and these are just some of his things from, from IMDb, his other roles over the years. Bum number 2, wino, usher slash drunk, bum, prisoner, dummy, bum, wino, farmer number 2. Good for him. Okay. Ticket taker. We're moving up in the world. The bum. Bus Station Bum, Panhandler, Hobo Jack, Bum.

Steve

Oh, he got a name on that one. Yeah, he's got a name.

Nic

Jack. Let's see. Mop Man, Jail Bum.

Steve

Hey.

Nic

Okay.

Steve

What the fuck is a jail bum?

Nic

Wino.

Steve

That's 3. Why?

Nic

The Bum. Wow. Street Bum Number One. I mean, so you can see that, that this actor has so much range. He can play anything from a Street Bum Number One to boxcar hobo number 4 and, you know, just knock it out of the park. So I thought it was really funny that from early in his career— I mean, yeah, this guy was in movies until the 2000s, and back in like 1968 they're like, oh hey, uh, congratulations on graduating Juilliard, you're gonna be playing hobos for the rest of your life.

Steve

I assure you that man did not attend Juilliard.

Nic

Uh, I would still like to know the hell he ate out of the dumpster outside Juilliard.

Steve

But like, what the hell's a jail bum if you're in jail? Like You have a place to live. Doesn't that sound good?

Nic

You're in jail but you're homeless, so you can go.

Steve

So I live in the yard.

Nic

I can go.

Steve

So I'm free. You just live in the yard. They make you sleep under, under newspaper in the yard. That's it. Like, that sounds awful. It's like the opposite of solitary confinement but still worse.

Nic

Oh my God.

Steve

So that's Old Man Withers.

Nic

Uh, uh, Stacy, Wayne's ex-girlfriend, played by—.

Steve

It was Laura Flynn Boyle.

Nic

Yeah, she looks great. I mean Real flex for this to be the "Ew, get away from me" girl, right?

Steve

I gotta say, so yeah, so it's Laura Flynn Boyle, who famously, right, "Twin Peaks," "The Practice," right? She has had a great career on television. I, as a kid, starting from the first time, thought she was gorgeous, and still do. And yeah, they play the she's kind of crazy a bit, but not enough. Wayne comes off like an asshole to Stacy, 'cause the worst thing she does is buy him a bad gift and try to get him jealous by making out with another guy. That's the worst shit she does. That's not that bad. And she looks stunning. Now look, yeah, this is a world in which a guy who looks like Mike Myers ends up with a fucking career. So clearly he has the ability to, to, you know, punch above his weight.

Nic

And a guy with Mike Myers's, like, life as well, lives with his parents. Like he says earlier, like, I got an extensive collection of name tags and hairnets about his jobs.

Steve

And everything's a successful person.

Nic

Yeah, just a guy.

Steve

But yeah, but Stacy is there.

Nic

She's And she gives a— she brings Wayne a gift. She's like— and they're just— and she gives him a gun rack, right? And this is where he has this great line.

Steve

Well, when he first— when he— when she walks up and it's like, Wayne, it's our anniversary, and he's like, we broke up, so no, it's not, like, kind of thing. And she's got this thing, and it's, you know, it's a big wide, you know, large thing. But he says, if that's a severed head, I'm gonna be very upset, which is a fucking great line. But then yes, he opens it up, he kind of rips it open, and it's a gun rack. And he goes, what is it? She goes, it's a It's a gun rack. And he goes, a gun rack? What do I need with a gun rack? I don't own a gun, let alone multiple guns that would necessitate an entire rack.

Nic

Yeah.

Steve

What am I going to do with a gun rack? And her response, Wayne, if you're not careful, you're going to lose me. I mean, it's just like, it's— she's so good.

Nic

She's so good. It's great. She has this necklace on that just says Wayne on it. Man.

Steve

Oh God. Funny.

Nic

So now, now we go to— and, and They make mention of, we're going to be at this—.

Steve

She asked him, are you guys going to Gas Works tonight? They all go, no, like real fast.

Nic

Yeah.

Steve

But sure enough, they end up at the Gas Works.

Nic

So they go to the club there, and this is the rock club, and, uh, Meatloaf is the, the bouncer, the doorman there. And Wayne asked him, oh, who's playing tonight? And he names these bands, and he's like, and the Shitty Beatles. And he goes, the Shitty Beatles, are they any good? He's like, no, they suck.

Steve

So it's not just a clever name.

Nic

That always made me laugh.

Steve

The other band, by the way, the other band he mentions is the Jolly Green Giants, who we actually will see briefly later. And then he said, "And then right now finishing up is Crucial Taunt." Crucial Taunt. And that's Tia Carrere, Cassandra's band. Cassandra Wong, I believe, is her last name. And she is played by Tia Carrere. And this was, you know, when we did Total Recall, we talked about, you know, I know for myself, the stranglehold. True Lies. Oh, sorry, it was True Lies, not Total Recall. It's True Lies. The stranglehold this woman had on me in this era, in this sort of early '90s, She is stunning. She looks great in this. And I did a little research because I thought this was the case and verified. Yeah, she did all her own vocals. So she, all of the Crucial Taunt cover songs, that's her singing. And she would go on after this movie. Her first album came out a year after this movie came out. She has since won 2 Grammy Awards as a Hawaiian music artist. She has won twice, has won and has been nominated additional other times for Best Hawaiian Music Album at the Grammys. Damn. She is a multi-Grammy Award winning recording artist. And the first time in popular entertainment that she sang, this movie. Good for her. This movie, because her first album came out after this movie did. So it was part of what she did when she auditioned to get the role was sing. And I read somewhere it was like Linda Ronstadt or somebody, but she sang like in the auditions and they were like, oh, so you can do both. We won't have to hire some other singer to be the vocals of Cassandra. We could just use you. That's already, you know, I'm sure they were already interested in her for the part, but like that was like a cherry on top situation for her.

Nic

Well, and it adds a ton to the movie and you can tell that it's her singing and it, and it really is because, you know, there's certain things in movies that they affect people different ways, but I tend to find that kind of thing really distracting. Yes. So yeah, it just, it helps. You can just relax and enjoy it. It is her singing. Yes.

Steve

Yeah, she's good. She does well. Yeah, they do great.

Nic

They do fantastic.

Steve

Yeah, we'll get into later the whole concept of like, I have a metal band but we're just a cover band, but we're going to make it. That's an interesting thing that doesn't quite work, but that we can get to that later.

Nic

We're a heavy metal band and we do golden earring covers, right? It's like, um, but her show's cool. And this is a good— this is kind of like the, um, the— a better version of the club from Singles.

Steve

Yes.

Nic

Where, uh, where they go to see Alice in Chains every night, right?

Steve

So Soundgarden was there too.

Nic

Um, yeah, so, and Wayne is trying to— he's trying to talk to Cassandra and and, you know, it was kind of messing it up. He's not— his lines aren't going over well, but she's— but she's not— she doesn't hate him, but she's just kind of like, whatever, guy.

Steve

Yeah. But she— I do love when he turns to kind of really sees her for the first time after making the crowd. We get a play of Dreamweaver by Gary Wright comes over. I believe you can get me through the night.

Nic

And it's like blurred and like sparkly or whatever.

Steve

Okay. Like, and like, yeah, everything. So he's falling in love, but she's basically just like, you know, he's like, hey, can I call you? Which is like pretty forward, Good for him, just asking straight out. I like that. And she's just like, "If you've got $5, you can come to the rent party." 'Cause they're throwing a party at their loft to make rent, I guess is the idea, right? So $5 at the door. It's like tomorrow night, I think she says something like that. So he gets a flyer and at least now he knows, you know, she'll be able to like, or he'll be able to see her again or be some whatever. And so when Garth finally catches up to wake, 'cause Garth gets in this little like little tiff with another big guy.

Nic

Oh yeah, some guy's like pushing him around.

Steve

Yeah, you dweeb or whatever. And he goes to his car to get a stun gun, with like a belt and basically tases this guy and throws him across the room, which is a weird little sub-thing.

Nic

They make Garth kinda like Data from The Goonies. A little bit, yeah. In this, you know?

Steve

But like not for any good reason. And there's only one other moment where you really see it and it kinda doesn't work with Benjamin Stockham later. By the way though, he is wearing, I don't think he has the stun gun on, but when they go see Alice Cooper later in the movie, he's got that belt on with the little meter as a belt buckle. So I don't know what's going on there. But yeah, but so when Garth catches back up to Wayne Gasworks has chatted with him. He is when he says like, whoa, she's a Meg, she's a babe, and he's a— she's a robo babe, and he— she makes me feel kind of funny, like when we used to climb the rope in gym class. And the funny part is I never had to climb a rope in gym class, but I still got that joke.

Nic

Yeah, just get a rope installed in your bedroom, you never have to leave. Um, one of the— one of the jokes in this movie that was definitely of the time that I appreciated is, uh, they're driving and there ends up being this this, you know, limo, fancy-looking Rolls-Royce-type limo next to them, and he has the guy roll his window down and does the "Part of Me, do you have any Grey Poupon?" joke to him. So, which they're right on the pulse. And it's funny watching this stuff where it's like, oh, that's dated. This is like, no, it's not. It was made for the people that were fucking alive and watching it then, and it worked perfectly.

Steve

And I don't know how many times that joke had been done before this. The commercial was well known, but I don't know that it had really been lampooned all that much, right?

Nic

Like, were people doing that to each other?

Steve

And like, yeah.

Nic

Um, so, so they go to this meeting now. They're meeting with Benj— or, uh, Benjamin and the TV guys are talking, right?

Steve

So, so it's Benjamin, Rob Lowe, and they're pitching to, uh, Vanderhoff, played by Brian Doyle-Murray. And the other person there is the director, uh, Russell, who's played by Kurt Fuller, who I love.

Nic

Kurt Fuller, he's so good.

Steve

He's so much fun. He was, you know, and he's a bear, kind of a Northern Cal guy, grew up in the San Joaquin Valley, went to like SF State. Like, I mean, he's that kind of guy, but he's done So much stuff. I mean, Ghostbusters 2 is one of the first things I remember him in. But like, the dude ended up— if you look at his IMDb, and I'm not going to go through it, but like every single, like, legal drama on TV, he has at least one episode in as an attorney. The dude just went around playing— like, he was on The Practice one episode opposite Laura Flynn Boyle, you know, and like things like he just played attorneys everywhere he went. But Kurt Fuller's fantastic.

Nic

Better draw than playing bums and winos.

Steve

Oh yeah, absolutely. Yeah. But he's a lot of fun and he's great in this because he's like, like he's not as conniving as Eric from Billy Madison, kind of.

Nic

He's like the— or not Eric, the Carl character.

Steve

Yeah, he's—.

Nic

Yes, he's like the guy who's kind of on the good guy's side but he's working for the bad guys.

Steve

He has to go along with the bad guy because it's his job, and he generally doesn't give a shit about the good guys to begin with, but then kind of comes around because he's not inherently bad, like, you know what I mean? Like, he's got some reasonableness to him, um, and he'll come around eventually. But I just love Kurt Fuller as an actor. I think he's fantastic.

Nic

He says something in this meeting that killed me where they're— I think they're talking about the maybe the shows that they could run his commercial during or something like that. And he goes, um, uh, African American Digest. And then, uh, Brian DeLormeau, he's like, I never heard of that. And, uh, and Rob Lowe's like, it's on very late. And then Russell goes, it's actually won several awards.

Steve

Several awards. Like, this is a really good show. It's so— it's so sincere.

Nic

Like, it was just one of those little like jabs in the movie that I think was so well placed.

Steve

And it's, and it's at, it's one of those places, right, where, yeah, it's, it's, it's at, uh, like, you know, here's the thing, here's who he's not. He's not Rob Riggle in Step Brothers. Like, he's not fully on board with the dickhead, you know what I mean? That's who Kurt Fuller is. Totally. That's the opposite of this, right? Um, but yeah, he's a lot of fun in this. Um, and so, yeah, so then the next morning we kind of cut to the next day and the Murphmobile is getting like smog checked or worked on or something, whatever it is, for $47. Phil is Phil, their, their drunk buddy from the night before, is the working at the body, the, the car shop, whatever. And, uh, Wayne is learning Cantonese and so He's like yelling, 'cause he's got the headphones on, he's yelling very loudly along with his training tapes and scaring Garth. But yeah, they end up like, Phil's like, "Hey, I got you guys, you know, a good deal. It's like $47.50 or whatever." And they're like, "Shiha, oh no." And they're pulling like individual dollar bills out and waiting for him to say, "No, that's not enough." Like, do the rap yourself, dude. But also Phil is telling them about this great band at Gas Works last night. "You guys should have been there. They were awesome." And Phil, we brought you there. That's how drunk Phil was.

Nic

Nice.

Steve

That's how blacked out Phil is. He can remember Tia Carrere's boobs, probably, is about all he can remember for the night. Doesn't remember how he got there, how he got home.

Nic

He was like, there's this great band, it was just one chick, and they were playing Dreamweaver all night.

Steve

I don't know how she did the drums and the guitar and the bass, but she wailed, man. Yeah, so Benjamin meets them at a place called Patio's, like a tiki bar. Yes. And so it's Wayne and Garth and Benjamin, and, uh, Benjamin's got got like a, probably like a vodka soda or something in front of him, and Wayne I think has a beer. And then Garth orders, you know, the, the cocktail for 3.

Nic

Dude, it's enormous, like a scorpion bowl, one of those. Yeah, one of those girls' night out, like, can we all finish this? Before it was illegal.

Steve

I got a quick funny story about this. So I was in Miami on business a few years ago working for a sports website, and, uh, we all went out to dinner, and I was super excited because we're going to a Cuban restaurant, and I'd never been to like Miami and eat Cuban food down there. And so I was really looking forward to getting a Cubano sandwich. I'm a big fan. Well, we went for dinner, and I didn't realize that they didn't have those at dinner. I was lunch only. So I was kind of like disappointed. And like the waiter, I think, could tell, like, oh, you know, and I'm like, yeah, like, why don't you just, you know, get me like a Cuba Libre and I'll get like, you know, paella or something like whatever. And he goes, well, now do you want the small Cuba Libre? You want the big Cuba Libre? And I go, oh, well, sure, let's do the big. Like my company was paying, like whatever. Motherfucker did not tell me that big meant for 4. So an enormous like punch bowl with 4 straws in it of just rum, Coke, and lime come out to the table. And basically like, Like at that point everybody's looking at me and then you gotta realize like I'm here in the capacity as like a boss of several of the people that I'm with. Like my direct reports are with me.

Nic

So you've gotta finish it otherwise you look weak.

Steve

It's basically like, do I like, I can't offer this to anyone else. I can't share with anyone. This is like 2023. We're not sharing, you know what I mean? And so I end up drinking the whole thing. But like, you know, it was just like, you asshole, you should have told me this. It was like when you said big, I thought you meant like a pint glass versus like a little highball. You know what I mean?

Nic

If the size difference is more than 50% bigger than the previous size, then you need to explain that it's like, yeah, I'm totally with you there.

Steve

But I almost looked like Garth sitting at this table. Luckily it wasn't blue or like crazy like that, but good God.

Nic

His drink is so damn funny here. Yeah, so Benjamin basically offers them like, we wanna sponsor your show, we wanna attach it to Noah's Arcade.

Steve

Run it on our network.

Nic

We're gonna give you $5,000 each.

Steve

Yeah.

Nic

Which is, you know, world-changing money to these guys.

Steve

Clearly not nearly enough for what's actually being asked of them, but so much more money than they see.

Nic

Which is Benjamin being a good executive. You find somebody who is desperate enough that a shitty amount of money will make them happy.

Steve

Exactly.

Nic

Um, so, so this is a funny thing here that Garth does is he— they, they give them the contract and the pen to sign it, and Garth like very purposefully nudges the pen off the table and then kind of like nods his head to the camera, motions down like, hey, follow me down here under the table, I get to talk to you.

Steve

Like in mockumentary style. Yeah, I feel like there's an active camera crew there, you know, that he's interacting with. But he basically just like calls out what the— He's like, "I don't know if I like this." Yeah. "I don't feel great about this." "Okay, I gotta get back." And he's just like, it's very funny. And then he does something. He like pulls something out of the drink. It's like a breadstick or something. I can't tell what it is. It's something he's like kind of sucking on or chewing on or something. Yeah, there's always like crazy stuff in there. Yeah, Dana Carvey's doing a lot with his mouth in this scene, and I can't fully understand it, but I do know when Benjamin says, "I've got a check here, cashier's checks for each of you for $5,000 each." And that's when Wayne says, "Excuse me, baking powder?" And like, again, I literally still say that shit. And I'm almost always like, "I shouldn't have said that," when I say it. Like, it's just the thing that pops out of my mouth before I even thought of it. Yeah. But they're freaking out. And this is when, and then Garth, like, whatever he's eating or sucking off, I can't tell what he's doing with this little piece of food from the drink, but it like gets down his throat and it's like, and he slaps in the back and he spits it and it lands in the drink or whatever, in another drink. And that's— I love when he shoots, he scores. This is another great one. Oh God, so funny.

Nic

Uh, so we're back with, uh, with Cassandra.

Steve

Yeah, it's like the rent party she was talking about right before.

Nic

And Wayne's chatting with, with her, and, uh, she mentions that she learned, um, she learned English from the Police Academy movies. I would have loved for her to do like 10 seconds of Winslow there. Just get like, hit me with some sound effects. She does all her own sound effects in this movie.

Steve

So a couple of things about this loft, man. This loft is enormous.

Nic

Again, lofts unrealistic in all these.

Steve

Her place is almost bigger than the Gas Works. Yeah, they were almost— I don't know if we're supposed to believe that the whole band lives here or if this is just her place, because if it's just hers, it's huge for one person. But also, we don't— later we don't see the band there without being there to play with her. So it does seem like it's her place, which is crazy. We get another Dreamweaver callback when Wayne— And then there's a thing in here that I love, which is, you know, they arrived by dancing out of the car. We got $5,000. Yes. We got $5,000. So they've obviously told the crew about the news. And Terry goes up to Wayne and is like, "I love you, man." And he's like, "I love you too, Terry." "No, no, no, no, I love you, man." And all Terry wants is a thank you. Yeah. 'Cause when he does it to Garth, he says, "I love you, man." And Garth says, "Thank you." That's like the end of it. Terry is such a wonderful positive masculinity example. I really love Terry in this movie. And it's not a way that I thought about this, you know, the last time I saw it, maybe 5 or 10 years ago. Yeah. Looking at it now, it's like the guy can just tell his buddies he loves them. Like, that's awesome. Yeah. More of that shit.

Nic

The whole crew honestly is great. I love all those guys. It works well. They don't give him a ton to do, but they all, they all serve their purpose well. I love Michael DeLuise. He's one of the, one of the crew members, and he was the kind of bad guy in Encino Man.

Steve

Yes. Yeah, the rich kid or whatever.

Nic

Yeah.

Steve

Like, yeah, yeah.

Nic

And he, he has not been in that that much. And I think that guy is so fucking funny. I'm like really disappointed he's not in a lot more, but I love that he's in this and he's just perfect.

Steve

When he hits on Van Der Hoff's wife later, it's fucking brilliant. It's so good.

Nic

Um, so Wayne had been learning Cantonese, right? And he's starting to have a conversation with Cassandra. So Cassandra says she learned English from Police Academy, and then Wayne just says something to her in Cantonese like, you look very beautiful, just like Oh my God, you said this to me.

Steve

Yeah.

Nic

And they get into this crazy vocabulary, you know, as their conversation goes in and there's subtitles. One of the things Wayne— he's talking about his ex-girlfriend who's like sitting behind them trying to make them jealous.

Steve

Yes.

Nic

And he's like, the irony is I feel partly responsible for her self-nullifying behavior. Like, they're just going through all this stuff. Yes. All these great subtitle tropes where he talks out loud for you know, 3 seconds and then 30 seconds of subtitles show up and then the opposite. And they, they really hit it from every angle.

Steve

I don't think in previous viewings of this movie I really understood the— I understood the joke of he said a little and then the text was long. That was a joke I kind of got, right? But the whole— the vocabulary ramp-up and self-nullifying behavior, it's like, not just vocabulary-wise, but like, to like be able to say a concept like that out loud in another language, it's like such advanced understanding of that language, whatever it is. Is I didn't really get that joke until this time and I laughed my fucking ass off when that happened. The other thing is another thing that I absolutely still say, I mean, God, I can't, honestly once a month this comes outta my mouth in perfectly like reasonable time to say it. And if a frog had wings, it wouldn't bump its ass when it hopped. I say that all the time to mean, yes, if the thing were different, the thing would be different. Like when people say, well, what about this? Yeah, yeah, if a frog had wings, it wouldn't bump its ass when it hopped. I say that all the time and I don't know if I'm being culturally insensitive. Like I don't know if I've like taken on some, you know, like, their culture is not my costume, or some shit like— I don't know, but I fucking say that all the time because it's in this movie, and it got ingrained in my head when I was 12 as like, that's the canonical example of, yeah, if the thing were different, it'd be different.

Nic

Yeah, you know, but it's like, Wayne's World is your culture at this point, so it's true, it could— it's that culture, but it's your culture too.

Steve

Fair enough.

Nic

Um, okay, so we've got Wayne and Garth, uh, laying the hood of the car, the birthmobile, yep, by the airport, like laying there looking at the sky, talking, waiting for the planes to drive over, and kind of, you know, what are your hopes and dreams? And Garth, Garth is like singing the Star Trek theme song, whistling it. He's like, uh, sometimes I wish I could boldly go where no man has gone before, but I'll probably just stay in Aurora.

Steve

Yeah. And they talk about Cassandra and how much of a babe she is, and Wayne's like, if she were— if this were— if it was in Latin, she would be Babia Majora, which I definitely didn't I didn't fully get that joke at 12, that's for sure. And then I think Garth calls her Babe-raham Lincoln. It's just like fun stuff. Then the airplane flyover and it's like, I would do that. I would kind of want to do that. I've never, I don't know where I could do that near us. I know. If there's any place like near Asheville or Cleveland.

Nic

Well, there's a very small airport up the street.

Steve

That's true.

Nic

I don't think you'll get the same effect.

Steve

Yeah, I want like a 737 to like fly, you know, several hundred feet above me and that's it, you know, like, but yeah.

Nic

So we're in the new studio. They're kind of getting a tour, like here's your new studio and it's freaking them out 'cause they're like, you've set up Wayne's exact base. Basement in this giant studio building.

Steve

You know, Wayne's mom's basement, right? I think it's like Wayne's parents' house basement. It's there.

Nic

And you have all this camera equipment and everything, and Russell is trying to take the crew through the concept of counting down. Oh yeah, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, but you don't say 2 and 1. So it's 5, 4, 3, beat, beat, you know. And these guys not getting it is so funny. And one of the guys, after he first does it, he's like, he didn't say 2 or 1. And they're just having so much trouble.

Steve

The funny part about it is they ask him, they ask Russell why, and he says, it's just how we do it. It's like, dude, there's a really simple explanation for why you roll sound before you roll video. So you don't want to hear the 2 and the 1 because the sound is rolling. Like, it's not even— there's a good reason for it. It's not like, well, we just do this because it's, it's TV and we're fancy. Like, no, like, you say 2 and 1, it'll get caught on the transmission. Like, don't do that. It's— anyway, but yes, so they're showing him and they go down, they're gonna practice with this new blue screen. Yeah, because he says we got this thing called chroma key, which is funny, that is actually the official— that's actually the technology, right, is chroma key. And so it's like, so cool, we can do all this stuff, we can go to New York. Hey, Hey, let's get a gun and go to a Broadway show. Or like, whatever, like all this kind of stuff. And then the classic of course is, you know, they go to Hawaii, they go to whatever. And then, or imagine being whisked away to magical, and then what pops up behind them? Delaware. Hi, I'm in Delaware.

Nic

So good. That's a thing. I mean, that will never be uncoupled from Delaware in my mind.

Steve

Yes.

Nic

We can have a president from Delaware. I don't give a shit. I never think of that guy's name. I think about Wayne's World. So, so Noah and his wife are visiting the studio, right? This is what you're paying for. This is what you're gonna— your brand is gonna be attached to where the magic happens.

Steve

Yeah.

Nic

And, and Wayne, uh, when he meets Noah, he's introduced and he does the, uh, as Sphincter says, what, what, you know, hey, Sphincter says what, what, exactly, precisely, or whatever.

Steve

Yeah, exactly. Uh, and this is where, yeah, I don't remember the, the character's name, but, uh, but the one of the crew is sort of like like hitting on, uh, uh, uh, Vanderhoff's wife. Yes. And, and, you know, he comes up and he's like, it's big camera or whatever. And she's like, whoa. Yeah. And he goes, do I scare you? He's like, do you want me to? I'm just like, like, I— to me, that straddles the line between like, eh, a little gross, but like honestly kind of baller. Like, I don't know, that's a funky one. Like, you know, uh, but she's, she's, uh, clearly interested because as they go to leave the Vanderhoff Vanderhoff's, he goes back and goes, "May I say, your wife's a babe." And she's like, clearly quite pleased. You know, 'cause like, this is the thing, they gave Vanderhoff clearly a wife who's like kind of a trophy wife person, but she's also like age appropriate. So she's a little older like he is, maybe in her 40s. And so having this like 20-something guy, you know, hitting on her is very like, "Oh, it's like, she's very happy about that." I do declare. Right, exactly.

Nic

Okay, so Wayne and Cassandra are kind of, chatting about stuff. Well, Wayne and Garth are doing a little street hockey.

Steve

Oh, that's right.

Nic

There's another scene again, came up so much in the game.

Steve

Game on, car, oh. All the time.

Nic

We got to bring the net back to the sidewalk. Game on, bring it back out to the street. But yeah, that's— I mean, that's very relatable.

Steve

It wasn't street hockey as much for us, I think, but like playing, like throwing the football around in the street, we would do that. And then, but here's the thing that I mentioned earlier, geography issues, right? And this is what I'm talking about. So Garth wakes up and his dog who looks exactly like Tina Turner is telling him that Wayne is here. So he gets up and he goes outside. He's got the mask and everything, the pads, and he's got a stick. But isn't that Wayne's house he comes out of that the truck had been parked in front of?

Nic

I couldn't tell because, yeah, the, his, the Mirthmobile was parked in the driveway in the background.

Steve

Yeah, on the other side of the street. And so it's hard for me to tell, like, I guess both houses just look very similar. And if that's true, then it is Wayne's car.

Nic

Yeah.

Steve

Because the Mirthmobile was parked in the driveway of the other house, but it really looked like Garth came out of Wayne's house. I got so confused for a minute, and I'm sure this is me, me just paying way too much attention to shit that doesn't matter in this movie, but it just confused me.

Nic

I picture you with like a gigantic relief map, like moving different pieces around, trying to figure out—.

Steve

I'm in the basement of Pee-wee's Big Adventure and I got the whole map of the town up, got everybody marked, like got 37 pieces of evidence.

Nic

Um, uh, so, so we end up back in the, uh, so Wayne and Cassandra are kind of hanging out and talking in the car. Just a funny line from Wayne where he says, uh, I thought I had mono once for 6 months, it just turned out I was really bored. Um, he has the sweet Discman with the aux input setup.

Steve

Yeah, probably Velcroed onto the, uh, onto the dash. Been there, done that, man.

Nic

Remember when, uh, 10-second anti-skip became the standard? Because when you had the no anti-skip one, it was like, you better be driving like in the water. Like, it's gonna skip no matter what. And then when you had that 10-second buffer, you're like—.

Steve

It really made a huge difference. Although it would be funny because it would be like either this track— I can't remember exactly how— when I think the track track would start normally, but the anti-skip doesn't kick in for the first 10 seconds, right? Because then it's because I have to get ahead of it or whatever. But yeah, it was a nightmare.

Nic

Like, and Cassandra, very impressed by it.

Steve

Very impressed. That's what I love is for her to see this thing like, whoa, hey, hey, 1992, man. That was no joke. But they go to the music store. They go back to the music store. Garth is also there, but didn't come with them. So I'm not quite sure how Garth got there, but that's okay. And so he, Wayne, goes up to Excalibur, the Fender Stratocaster in the locked case, and he wants to see it. And I love, he plays a couple of riffs here. The first one is the, can I help you riff?

Nic

Yeah, I love that part.

Steve

Can I help you? Like, yes, my good man. I would like to take a look at the Fender Stratocaster, please. And so he takes it out and he starts to play. And this is funny. I don't know the version you watched. Did it actually sound like Stairway to Heaven? Because the version I think it did, but there have been versions of this where it doesn't sound anything like Stairway Really? Yeah, because they lost like the rights to do it because it was a performance. There was something weird about it where like the latest stream— later streaming versions, it's just some little notes. It's not Stairway to Heaven.

Nic

No way.

Steve

And it has something to do with rights and I couldn't dig into all the—.

Nic

Do we get Mandela affected with Wayne's World?

Steve

There's— there was definitely a reconstruction of this.

Nic

Baron Stain, Bear Way to Heaven. Jesus.

Steve

I remember if it was the something just about it being on home video or there was something about it where it was like only because of the theater you could do it. It was something weird.

Nic

That's so off-putting when it happens. Like if you're familiar with something and then the sound is different. Yeah, the one I watched was, uh, was Stairway to Heaven. Okay, great joke, you know, good classic, classic rock joke, you know.

Steve

Yeah, no stairway, denied.

Nic

And then, and then Garth, uh, gets behind the drum set. There's never been an actor that knows how to drum that we don't know about. That's my theory.

Steve

They all let us know.

Nic

Every single one definitely lets us know, right? Dana Carvey, like, you're getting behind the set. Uh, but yeah, so he does it, then he finishes it with the, uh, I like to play, I like to play.

Steve

Good Garth line.

Nic

Um, oh man. So yeah, so, uh, Benjamin and Wayne are kind of talking about like the changes required to the show because of their new sponsorship. So it's like, oh, you're selling out, you can't do things the way that you always did them. That's right. And then I think we get— this is probably the funniest part, maybe the most I laughed in the movie.

Steve

It's so good. Among a strong field, but very strong scene, very, very easy, uh, to pull out of it, I think. And actually, for some reason, I've seen this scene, uh, on like TikTok and Instagram in recent years, like it's kind of begun to live on its own, but the product placement scene, right? So they're at the craft services table and it's already laden with like name brand products, but they really let you see that like Wayne's got a Pizza Hut pizza and he's got Doritos and he's like holding the bag up while he eats it, talking about how selling out, you know, stuff, whatever.

Nic

Contractor, no, I will not bow to any sponsor. And then takes a giant bag of Doritos right in front of his face.

Steve

Big label right in the scene. And then Garth is head to toe in Reeboks. Rock from the shoes to the pants to the shirt.

Nic

He looks like one of Allen Iverson's, like, uh, entourage members. It's such a great look. I want that whole fit. I thought it looked so good.

Steve

He looks like a NASCAR driver, he's so done up in this. It's really wild all over the place.

Nic

I do wish that he had pumps that he had pumped up.

Steve

Oh yeah, that scene. Well, it's funny because his hat was, was a Pump logo on it, but he didn't pump. I think they wore—.

Nic

I'd love a Pump hat that I pump so it would, like, stay on tighter. But you're going on a boat, just there you go. Um, and then of course we get the, the one that—.

Steve

Well, there's Pepsi as well, but then we get the one brand that doesn't still exist from this, which is NuPrint, right? Little yellow, different.

Nic

Yeah.

Steve

And I don't— I never took NuPrint.

Nic

I only know of NuPrint from the movie, from the TV, and I don't know if it's one of those that it's like, oh, we found a better way to treat that, or if it's like, oh, that's what they used to call fentanyl.

Steve

Yeah.

Nic

You know where like you learn about something where you're like, oh, this was sold over the counter, and like, remember those diet pills?

Steve

Like, no, I don't. Oh, well, they— people died. So yeah, NuPrint fucking killed people. Like, I don't know, it's possible.

Nic

Um, uh, so really funny scene, really goofy shit. And again, like, this is such a playful movie, and, and that part is just— I, I love it because, like, it doesn't lose the SNL anything can happen element.

Steve

Yeah, exactly. And, and so, yes, then we go back to Stan Mikita's Donuts, and Cassandra's there hanging out with the guys, and they're talking. Garth has been eyeing this woman we just call— he just calls Dream Woman. Uh, but it's Donna Dixon. She's great at, you know, great actress, very fun. She's in, like, Spies Like Us and a bunch of other stuff. She's really great and, um, beautiful. And so he's, like, staring at her, and they're Why don't you just go talk to her? And we get a little dream sequence, like a little daydream where Garth goes to the jukebox and turns it on and Foxy Lady by Jimi Hendrix comes on. He basically does this like his dance, thrusting dance.

Nic

Oh man, because the beginning of it, it's such like a goofy cute little thing where he's like doing the ears and then it's like 45 seconds of just air humping.

Steve

All mine, all mine. That's good shit. Um, and then we got to, uh, Cassandra— back to Cassandra's Wayne is there. Again, the mullet and the out of shapeness and the tighty whities.

Nic

Without the hat. It's so terrible. Yeah, it's really amazing.

Steve

How is it with her? You know, again, good for Mike Myers. It's his movie, so okay. But you know, they're sort of playing around kind of in bed and then she gets a call from Benjamin about, or no, from her drummer Anthony. And he's like, I can't make the like whatever rehearsal or the studio, I don't know, the video shoot, whatever. He can't make something. She's like, dude, this is bullshit. Like you gotta be there. But he's the whole time, Wayne is like pulled his tighty whities he's up his butt crack and is like doing little things, putting on her bra over his shirt and doing the like Marilyn Monroe. Yeah, Happy Birthday Mr. President thing, and like making her laugh, whatever.

Nic

It is really funny to fuck with somebody who's on a serious phone call, a serious but like a business serious phone call, not a death in the family serious phone call. But it is really funny to do that while somebody's on a call like that. So I love Wayne for that.

Steve

Okay, okay. I, I, I, I hate talking on the phone, and I generally hate having to like dedicate my attention to the phone call. So if I'm then being distracted, like I don't react well to that. Like that is definitely a thing that I'm just like, could you just fucking give me a second?

Nic

Okay, don't dance around in front of Steve's window when he's on a business call.

Steve

Thankfully, you know, Zoom calls are different. I kind of have to be front and center on that so I can just, you know, ignore. But yeah, anyway. But yeah, so they play around and then this is when we get, I think the first of several times that a piece of text flashes on the screen and Wayne reacts to it.

Nic

Yes.

Steve

Which is that, you know, she calls him an asshole, but playfully he jumps onto her. You know, and then it flashes gratuitous sex scene. He turns on, goes, excellent.

Nic

Good way to do that. And, and a funny joke. Uh, so now they end up invited up to Benjamin's very, uh, well-appointed, uh, penthouse. I don't know, it's the top floor, maybe not, but high up. Yeah, it's a huge apartment, great view and everything. They're like, oh, this has a terrace, you know.

Steve

Yeah, yeah.

Nic

Uh, Cassandra says something about, oh, it feels so free to live up here. And Benjamin's like, well, it costs a lot of money.

Steve

Like, he's—.

Nic

Everything he's saying is, is shitty, right? So brings out, uh, I don't know if what he brings out is champagne.

Steve

He says Dom Pérignon, which is definitely champagne.

Nic

And then is it Wayne who says like, oh, I've had this? Well, no, talking about the distinction.

Steve

Yeah, Cassandra's like, I don't think I've ever had French champagne before. And he goes, oh, actually all champagne is French, it's named after the region, which is not incorrect. But he is wrong about the next thing he says. Okay. Which is that, you know, Americans got used to calling all their sparkling— but otherwise it's sparkling white wine. Here's the problem, bro. It is not sparkling white wine. Most of champagne is made with red wine grapes. Because most champagne is a blend of Pinot Noir, Pinot Meunier, and Chardonnay. If you have a purely sparkling white wine, it's called a Blanc de Blancs, which Dom Pérignon does not make, like, or at least that Moët Chandon does not make as a Dom Pérignon. So they'll make a Blanc de Noirs and they'll make a Brut, which is a blend. But either way, there's definitely red wine in the sparkling wine. So I had an issue with that obviously, and I will take that to the grave.

Nic

So much better than what my question was for you. I wrote down, Sommelier corner. So if somebody, if somebody drops a champagne where they should be saying sparkling wine, yeah, yeah, how much of an urge do you feel to like chime in? Hell no, that's just— you let it— I absolutely want to get into this.

Steve

Doesn't matter. Yeah, it's one of those things where, look, if you, if you are talking about a sparkling wine from another country where that country has a way they refer to their sparkling wine and you call it champagne, like if you're talking you're talking about Cava from Spain or Prosecco from Italy and you're calling it champagne, I would probably offer a correction. Be like, "Hey, you know what? Actually from Barcelona, they call it Cava. It's still a sparkling wine, but they call it Cava." And then, "Oh, if you're in Italy, you know, that's Prosecco or that's, you know, Spumante or that's something else depending on what it is." If you're talking about an Ameri— like a California champ— like they call this méthode champenoise. So it's basically saying like, "We made this in the same method that they make champagne in," right? And they won't put the word champagne on the bottle 'cause that's an agreement between winemakers in France and winemakers in the United States. They won't do it anymore. Used to, but like since the mid-'90s, there's been an agreement. We won't use place names that don't apply anymore, but they will still say "Méthode Champenoise" on the bottle. And it's like, if a regular person called that champagne, I would never correct them.

Nic

Okay.

Steve

'Cause it's fucking a dick move.

Nic

So you're saying that there are regular people and there are superior people who are you?

Steve

But I'm just saying like, you know, if it's something where it's like, oh no, this is an Italian Prosecco and you call it a champagne, I would probably let you know, actually that's Prosecco, because it's a whole different thing.

Nic

No, that makes perfect sense. I just know that like in certain fields, there's things that people say where you're like, I can't fucking stand, I can never let that go. So I didn't know if this is like the one thing—.

Steve

Probably is for some people, it probably is for some people. And I think certainly it's probably a bigger deal if you are in the wine industry and you are French. You probably care a hell of a lot more about champagne being called correctly than like I would.

Nic

That's very true. Yeah, awesome. Well, thank you for that information.

Steve

Yeah.

Nic

Um, so, and this is good Benjamin being kind of, like, just, "Meh," about this stuff. And then Garth, again, motions for the camera. He's like, "Come here. Come here." And he takes the camera around the apartment, and he's just, "Something doesn't feel right about this. I don't like this." And he reaches for this stack of books, and every book is called, like, "How to Pick Up Chicks," "How to Get With Everything." And I love that Garth's response is, "He's smooth." No, this is proof that he's not. Garth picks up his plan, dinner, and it says, uh, Thursday, daily reminder: purchase feeble public access cable show and exploit it. And Garth goes, wow, I feel sorry for whoever that is.

Steve

Oh man, he's so on top of it and then so not at the same time. He ends up like sneaking in, looking through a drawer and finding condoms that are— yes, ribbed for her pleasure. And then his response is, ew. And I'm like, really? Like, I get that Garth is a little bit of like an infantilized character, but still, like, ew is the response?

Nic

It's like, okay, all right, Garth doesn't like pleasing women. Garth is a— he's a manosphere guy.

Steve

Not a generous lover. Not a generous lover, Garth. Garth Algar.

Nic

Um, and then, then to— so Benjamin, who already has this amazing place, he's a cool, good-looking guy, whatever, and he's a high-ranking executive, and then he goes to order food for them and he orders in perfect Cantonese on the, uh, on the phone.

Steve

Even calls out to Cassandra that based on her accent, she sounds like she's more from Kowloon Bay than from Hong Kong. So I was born in Kowloon Bay.

Nic

Well, so Wayne has nothing. Every advantage that Wayne thinks that he has established for himself are just disintegrated, except for the most important one—.

Steve

He makes her laugh. That's Benjamin. Never makes her laugh.

Nic

That's true.

Steve

And I think that's what ends up being great for—.

Nic

But he doesn't— at this point, Wayne is not thinking about it. No, that's because he's only thinking about what he's lacking and everything. Um, Cassandra, the next time they show— I mean, she is just the absolute top of her game again in this movie. Like, Tia Carrere is just—.

Steve

Well, she wears this red— in this scene, the red dress with the zippers on it. Oh my God, the thoughts, even at a 12-year-old sold that I have, like, I wonder what it looks like when you start undoing those zippers. Boy, I bet that's interesting. Like, literally, it's hot, you know, like, for sure.

Nic

So they're going to Milwaukee now.

Steve

Yeah, Benjamin gave them backstage passes to Alice Cooper for the next night because he's going to have to be with— we have work to do. Cassandra and I have work to do. You guys go to Milwaukee and enjoy seeing Alice Cooper and backstage passes and all that.

Nic

So they're going. So get out of my hair. Go to Milwaukee.

Steve

And they'll be distracted.

Nic

And then we get this kind of this parody scene of the intro to the TV show Laverne and Shirley, which took place in Milwaukee, which is a sitcom which had these two women who worked at a brewery there and it and all the scenery around Milwaukee and kind of an iconic intro. And it's funny watching it being like, God, that's kind of a dated reference or whatever. And I looked it up and Laverne and Shirley ran from '76 to '83.

Steve

So it was already dated.

Nic

So let's say '79, right? So It, it was 13 years before Wayne's World came out that they're making that reference, which would be like us talking about the movie Wayne's World in 2005.

Steve

Oh, okay. Yeah.

Nic

So I'm never going to call a reference date. Our whole podcast is a dated reference.

Steve

That's fair.

Nic

But it's so funny at the time to think like, God, that, that really doesn't hold up. It's like, yeah, on, on the timeline we're on, it's way closer to Laverne and Shirley than it is to today.

Steve

That's fair.

Nic

Um, but funny, like a good shot for shot kind of remake of the intro to that show.

Steve

Forklift and the, and the assembly line or the bottle line, all of it. It was really really good. But they do stop themselves, like, what are we doing? We've got backstage passes to Alice Cooper, let's go. Um, I also love this is when we see the Red Vine dispenser inside the Mirthmobile, which is like a ceiling-mounted—.

Nic

So that's kind of an indication that it's Garth's car. Like, it goes back and forth, right? Or was it like, okay, we get 2 modifications, I want a CD player that plugs into the tape thing and a Red Vine dispenser?

Steve

I guess. I'm not sure. But because I don't think we see that dispenser early, and we definitely don't— it's not the— our attention is not drawn to it, but it may be present earlier in the movie. I didn't notice. But it does seem like the kind of thing Garth invented, right? Like the way that he's got these little gadgets and things. I don't think that that's a standard aftermarket, you know, install from AMC. No, it's not. Yeah, exactly.

Nic

It's not listed on the stickers.

Steve

Exactly, right, right. Yeah, yeah, next to the undercoating, yeah. But yeah, so we go to Alice Cooper and this, the only Alice Cooper song that I'm familiar with and have put on playlists is "Feed My Frankenstein." Right. Love this song because this movie—.

Nic

Goes in the Halloween playlist too. Absolutely. It's right there. The desert of the Halloween playlist, Alice Cooper provides a little oasis.

Steve

But it's a lot of fun. You know, it's, it's, I mean, Alice Cooper was still young enough to sort of be active at this point, even though, you know, he was, you know, 20 years past his height of popularity at this point, really. But he does a great job and he's got, you know, these people. And so, but they, Wayne Garth, like, hey, let's go outside. Let's go backstage. Let's go backstage. You know, and they, whatever. There's a weird interaction between them as they go through the crowd and they get to the security guy where the security guy looks pissed at them, but then sees their badges and still is pissed at them and is like, go. And it's like, at that point, he should probably be like, oh, sorry, sir. Like, I mean, I just feel like it's a weird reaction for like the security guy in his concert.

Nic

He's like, he got foiled. Like, I want to turn people away.

Steve

Right. Now I don't get to. Like, oh no, I have to let you in.

Nic

I do. I love the way that they're showing their passes and stuff as they go back there. Um, Alice Cooper is funny because it's like, looking back, we had Ozzy Osbourne and we have KISS.

Steve

Yeah.

Nic

We don't need Alice Cooper. You were the RC Cola of shock rockers of the '70s. We don't need you anymore.

Steve

Yeah, um, but frankly, we had Frank Zappa and didn't need any of the other ones, really.

Nic

But, um, so at this point, there's a security guy played by Chris Farley who's, who's like, uh, they're like, oh, what's this limo here? Oh, this limo is— this is record executives, and he's traveling here, and he's very sharp.

Steve

Sharp Records.

Nic

He gives this whole, like, upcoming itinerary, and then Wayne even says, like, boy, that sure is a lot of information.

Steve

He was very well informed for a security guard. That's so strange because he also clearly works at the venue. He doesn't work, right? He's wearing the same yellow shirt that all the security— so anyway, but yeah, then they finally do get backstage.

Nic

So they're backstage, and Alice Cooper, of course, it's not this rock star behavior. He's being— he's just like this serious conversation. It's like fucking, uh, yeah, NPR back there. And he's talking about facts about the history of Milwaukee and all these things, and they're just like—.

Steve

My favorite exchange— I mean, obviously the, the, the whole, you know, mele wa ke kind of thing is funny, but my absolute favorite moment in this exchange is he's talking, Wayne asks, "Oh, so you come to Milwaukee often?" He goes, "Oh, well, you know, Milwaukee's had a lot of visitors and I've definitely been here a lot and, you know, the French fur traders and like all this kind of stuff." And then like his guitarist or whatever goes, "Yeah, isn't Milwaukee an Indian name?" And he goes, "Yes, Pete, it is." The way Alice Cooper says, "Yes, Pete, it is," is so funny to me. Like, oh God.

Nic

Let's throw Twisted Sister in the list if we're gonna be eliminating bands. Yeah, we can consolidate some of these.

Steve

I feel like I'm keeping Twisted Sister. Out of all the ones we've talked about so far.

Nic

That's fine. Alice Cooper can get rolled into Twisted Sister. That's okay.

Steve

Okay. Yeah, that's fine. We can do that.

Nic

So, so they're back and they do the 'we're not worthy' thing to Alice Cooper, which they have to.

Steve

That's just a throwback to this SNL sketch.

Nic

They had to find a way to make sure to get like a catchphrase, get the bullet points. So they're back at the set and, you know, it's been fully done.

Steve

Like, I think they saw it before, but now it's like, well, they did a rehearsal and now it's like time to shoot and broadcast the first show, right?

Nic

Right. And they do it neon sign, like, you know, Noah's Arcade presents Wayne's World and everything.

Steve

New theme song.

Nic

The theme song sucks so bad. It's really terrible.

Steve

Wayne's World, Wayne's World, party time. Excellent.

Nic

Like, no, I guess I forgot to look this up, but I wonder if that's like some notable person that they had sing that, that scene just for, just for the fun of it. But, um, yeah, so, so the, the show, because now Noah's Arcade is the sponsor, right? Every episode is just going to be an interview with the fucking—.

Steve

He's literally— they said he's going to have a weekly, and I think it's a weekly show to talk about.

Nic

You talk about the new games.

Steve

That's what they— I mean, that was the whole selling point, right? Was they said like, what's your biggest barrier? And it's like, well, we can't let the kids know when new games come in. It's like the advertising goes so much slower than the technology, which is fucking not true, certainly not back then. But like, whatever. And so they're saying, okay, well, if you had a weekly spot where you could come on and tell people about new games, do you like this? So I think the idea is, yeah, the 2 minutes of every Wayne's World episode is gonna be talking to Noah Vanderhoff? Like, how— like, this is gonna sink the show, right? There's no way people are gonna keep looking. But Wayne luckily has some ideas about how to spice it up a little bit, right?

Nic

And they, and they tell him, they're very clear with him. They're like, we wrote your questions down on these note cards. Use these cards. Okay, don't fuck with us, right? There's a lot of money behind this, right? So yeah, so Wayne is, uh, he has his note cards and he's asking Noah Vanderhoff the questions, but on the back of the cards Yes. He has written certain things such as sphincter boy.

Steve

With an arrow.

Nic

With an arrow pointing to him.

Steve

He blows goats, I have proof.

Nic

Yes, I love that one. This man has no penis.

Steve

Classic. And so up in the booth, people are busting up laughing except for Russell and Benjamin, obviously, who are very upset about it. But everybody else up there is laughing and Mrs. Vanderhoff is like noting, noticing the like reactions from the people and like giving thumbs up.

Nic

Yeah, he thinks he's killing the interview.

Steve

He gets off and goes over to his wife and she's like, money. That went so well. You got a huge reaction from that little room up there. He's like, I think that went really well. So Wayne gets shitcanned.

Nic

Yep. They fire him from his own show. Uh, such a bomb. And Cassandra is in Chicago. She's with Benjamin. She's doing this, uh, the music video shoot right now.

Steve

Yeah. Well, I don't know where they are. They're not in Chicago, I don't think. But because— are they on a set? I think they're like—.

Nic

Yeah, some kind of some weird—.

Steve

Wherever they are, it's, it's, it's crazy. But, but Uh, he goes to try and like convince her, right? Is that where we are?

Nic

Yeah. And so he's trying to go convince her because Wayne's like, what can I offer her that Benjamin can't, right?

Steve

Right.

Nic

He puts together the pieces with what the security guard Chris Farley told them earlier. Oh, can we get Mr. Big from Sharp Records to hear her music? That's the gift I can give her.

Steve

Yeah.

Nic

So I'm gonna go to her and, and, you know, figure out how to set that up. So he's like headed out towards where she's shooting the music video.

Steve

Yeah.

Nic

And it's this weird like jungle waterfall set. They're in this cheetah pattern stuff. She has a boa around her neck. They're singing, I think, an original song for their band, but the song—.

Steve

They're all covers. It's an—.

Nic

Okay, I don't know what this song— no, but this song sucks ass though. I don't like this song. I like a lot of the music in the movie. I did not like this song. Uh, good gag as they're speeding to go meet her and, uh, and save her is they get pulled over by the cops, right? And it is Robert Patrick from Terminator It is the liquid metal cop. So Wayne, he's like, have you seen this boy? And shows him a Polaroid. Wayne's just like, ah, just starts driving away.

Steve

Yeah, it's very good because that was right— I mean, T2 was like the year before. It was great. It was very good. Um, and then so he goes and Wayne gets to the place and, and, and is trying to convince, uh, uh, Cassandra that, you know, like, he made mistakes and, and, you know, but he wants her back. And, and, you know, Benjamin's trying to take advantage of her. And yeah, she had been holding this huge snake during the shoot shooting, but like hands it to Benjamin when she comes off. And then Wayne is trying to— and he dips his fingers into like the pitcher of water and sprays him in his face. And then the next like little flashing text on the screen says Oscar clip as he's pouring his heart out, you know, whatever. And then it's like, and worst of all, I never learned to read. And then she goes, is that true? And he goes, yeah, everything but the reading part. Yeah.

Nic

So, and then, uh, and Wayne is He's like playing this thing where he's convinced that this is all a fake. Like, you're not really shooting a music video. Then where's the band? Hey, Wayne. And like, they all walk away. Oh, sorry, I didn't see you guys there. And then he goes to the camera. He's like, oh yeah, there's not even really film in this camera. And he whips open the film container and it starts spilling out this like Naked Gun comical amount of film onto the ground that keeps piling up and piling up like the pile of pistachio shells. Like, exactly that. Exactly.

Steve

She tells him to leave. Wayne, leave. Leave, like, whatever. And, uh, but then, you know, Benjamin's standing right next to her, still holding this, like, albino python, whatever the hell it is, and it's, like, crawling across her chest. And when she goes, wait, is that you or the snake? She realizes, like, this guy's a bad guy. Even if Wayne is being kind of shitty, he did just say he loves you, right? Like, you know, so she chooses Wayne. She leaves with Wayne. Uh, you know, Campbell, wait up, whatever. Um, we cut to where— so now they've got to get her back to Wayne's basement because they're going to shoot a special commercial sort of broadcast that they're gonna shoot over, you know, Garth is gonna triangulate onto satellites and different stuff and, and send to the back.

Nic

'Cause the guy's limo has like a TV satellite. It's very obvious and stuff.

Steve

Drives everywhere. So he's gonna do that. And I noted one thing I noticed was funny is he's on his computer at home 'cause he's got his Tina Turner dog with him. And he's got like on the screen are all these different satellites that are like pointing down. Right next to his computer, I don't know if this was deliberate, was, is a Sega Game Gear. And I remember that in the very opening commercial when we saw Noah's Arcade's commercial, 2 Dads 1 Movie, Sonic the Hedgehog was playing in this thing behind him.

Nic

So it's like, is there a Sega sponsorship?

Steve

Yeah. Is there a Sega, like a deliberate Sega placement here? I don't know. But yeah, there's a little Game Gear next to his computer. They have to go steal the truck from the local Lexus station in order to do this. And while they're doing it, this is when Wayne, like they're trying to all like army crawl and Wayne's like, wait guys, I fell on my keys. Oh man.

Nic

Yeah. They're all, they're all there to get the truck and Russell kind of stops them as they're trying to go, but— and he's got a flashlight. Like, what are you guys doing here? You know, and Garth is like, all right, man, hey, we're trying to do this. And Garth, like, at some point reaches out, grabs the Maglite, unscrews it, takes the battery out as if he's taking the clip out of a gun. He's okay, he's okay. So Russell, of course, comes along with that.

Steve

Best line is like, he's trying to convince him that Benjamin doesn't like him. Like, Benjamin's not like you, man. Like, he doesn't like you. No, Benjamin's my friend.

Nic

No.

Steve

If he were an ice cream flavor, he'd be Pralines and Dick. Yes! That's so good. And then we're in the car that now Russell is driving the van over to Wayne's house, and Terry's sitting next to him and he's like, "I love you, man." He goes, "I know." "No, no, no, you don't." "I love you, man." And Garth just goes, "Just say thank you." And he says, "Thank you." And then Terry hugs him and almost makes the pickup truck swerve off the road. Meanwhile, Benjamin is also racing to Wayne's house. Wayne's house. I think he's figured out what they're doing, or at least, you know, because he sent Russell, you know, to the, to the station. Um, but he gets pulled over along the way, not by Robert Patrick but by Officer Koharski.

Nic

That's right, the body cavity search.

Steve

And so then that clearly happens because then when Benjamin pulls up to Wayne's house and gets out of the car, he has to do so very gingerly, uh, and kind of, you know, with clenched butt cheeks. He's very uncomfortable. But basically they, they do the, the broadcast of Crucial Taunt. He even says Cassandra and Crucial Taunt, which is interesting, like the name changed or whatever. I don't know if Anthony's gonna like that. But they cover Ballroom Blitz, which is— they did it earlier. They did it at the Gas Works. It's a great song. This to me is the canonical version, even though it's a cover of a cover, because the COVID was more popular than the original the first time around.

Nic

Who is the original original?

Steve

I don't remember, dude. Like, honestly. Is it like an Edgar Winter or Rick Derringer or one of those kind of guys? It's not Edgar Winter, but it's in that ballpark. Yeah. Anyway, the point is—.

Nic

But her version is good. I don't love that song, but I think she has a good version.

Steve

Oh, I really like the man in the back. The man with the crack. It's a good song. Anyway, it looks like the original was Sweet, was the first one. Maybe that's actually the most popular version, but yeah, it's been done a few times. Anyway, so they're gonna do that. And so now, you know, the broadcast starts in Mr. Sharp's, you know, limo, and he's watching it and she's doing great. She looks great, practically wearing like lingerie. She looks fantastic, but she's wailing and the band's doing great.

Nic

Yeah.

Steve

The limo does a little race around. Big old whip around, U-turn on the limo. They, you know, so he's driving up, Benjamin's driving up, they both kind of all arrive at the same time. As the song ends, um, Mr. Sharp has come down the stairs and Benjamin's come in one or the other. I don't know exactly how he got in there, but they're all kind of coalescing. And Sharp walks up and goes like, I just saw your performance and I thought you were really amazing, but I don't think it's the right time. I'm sorry. And then like Benjamin— and then Cassandra's pissed and he's like, Wayne, you ruined my career! And like, whatever. And then they end up, Benjamin and Cassandra, like on some, you know, some tropical island, and the sparkly bikini she's wearing. I swear to God, like, this was the stuff of my dreams for years.

Nic

She's fantastic.

Steve

Incredible.

Nic

Yeah, yeah.

Steve

And he even says, like, did you really think she'd end up with Wayne?

Nic

And the other thing, uh, is that Stacy, Wayne's ex-girlfriend, comes into the screen. She's like, Wayne, I'm pregnant! That's how I've been acting so weird. And then all the equipment starts short-circuiting and the house catches on fire, burns down. So Wayne comes out out like carrying Garth from the charred remains of his house, and then it goes to Benjamin and Cassandra, right? So it's just a nightmare ending, and then Wayne and Garth slide in from the side. Yeah, you know, I think we're really gonna end it like that. Let's do the Scooby-Doo—.

Steve

Yeah, the Scooby-Doo ending. So it's— and here's what I love. So there are 3 endings of this movie, right? So the Scooby-Doo ending is the second one, but in each of the endings we don't get all the same setup, obviously. Like, we cut ahead a lot of the setup, right? Every time we get Benjamin gingerly stepping out of his car, they make sure to remind us in every version of this ending Benjamin got a full body cavity search before he arrived.

Nic

Rob Lowe's balls have had a rough time on this podcast, right? Between Tommy Boy.

Steve

Yes.

Nic

Um, yeah, so the Scooby-Doo, uh, ending is that, uh, Old Man Withers, the guy that we were talking about earlier who's played such a variety of winos and bums Bobos, uh, you know, they're like, oh, we'll find out who Benjamin really is. Yeah, they rip a mask off and it's Old Man Withers, the owner of the haunted amusement park.

Steve

Yeah, I would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for that dog. If you kids, you're meddling kids or whatever. Um, and then they said, oh, that was cool, now let's do the mega happy ending. And it's like, this is when same thing, we see Benjamin gingerly get out of the car, we're back in the basement, and Frank Sharp goes like, you're amazing, I want to sign you to a 6-album deal. And this is when I was like, for covers? For Yeah, for a cover band, you're gonna put— what do you do 6 albums of? This is bizarre. Like, you know, like, I get that it was like the early '90s and, and your image was way more important, Mrs. Smith, maybe, than your musical talent or your songwriting talent. And maybe his thought is, well, I got songwriters, they'll write songs, she'll, you know, sing them and they'll be huge hits. So I get that that's possible, but like, really, this is like the band you give, you know, all this—.

Nic

That's a big bite off of, off of hearing a very small thing.

Steve

Exactly.

Nic

And then Wayne and Cassandra hook up and that's all happy. And then Garth and his dream woman encounter each other, so they get to hook up.

Steve

And they end telling us that we got fished in, which I'm not really sure was nice. Like, yeah, but like, fished in, like, like we bought it, like, you know, it's like, well, yeah, we're here to watch the movie, you guys, which is what you told us. Anyway, good stuff though. So that's—.

Nic

Yeah, and that's it, that's the end of it. What a, uh, what a fun twist at the end doing the multiple ending.

Steve

It was nice.

Nic

I really enjoyed that.

Steve

Yeah, I remember, I remember watching it the first time and thinking, wow, they really had like this ending is going back when, when it was— it's like, I remember even as a kid when, when Mr. Sharp is like, hey, I think you're very talented, very beautiful, but this isn't the right time. I was like, oh damn, they didn't let her get like— this doesn't work. And then, but then like it escalates so quickly, you're like, what the fuck is happening? And then when it's like, as if we'd end the movie that way, it's like, oh, okay, it's going to be something. And then it's like you settle in, but it's like, yeah, they really kind kind of— I was like, that's such a strange way to end this movie on such a down note. Yeah, what is this, Empire Strikes Back? Like, what are we doing here? You know?

Nic

Um, and so that's Wayne's World. Well, Steve, this was, uh, this was your pick. Uh, you want to lead us off here with the rating?

Steve

Absolutely. Yeah, so this movie is so much fun, and it really— it was not obvious to me before we started just how much has stayed with me over the years from this movie. Um, I don't think I realized like how much of my like general sense of humor was formed by Mike Myers. And I think that, you know, for me personally, like I recognize it more from like Soy Mary Dax Murderer, where it's like a lot of the jokes in that movie are like things my wife and I still say to each other on a regular basis. This movie, I didn't realize kind of just how much of it. I think Wayne's World 2 has a ton as well. I remember the story about the brown M&Ms and all this stuff. Right. You know, there's little bits that are like definitely also stick with you. So it's just such a, such a really wonderful very funny movie. Like, to its core, this is an approachable, funny movie. There's really, you know, there's a handful of kind of dirty jokes, but not too bad. No curse words as far as I remember. I think there's, you know, just the real shitty, the shitty Beatles. You know, they use the shit a couple times. There's no like F-bomb in this one or anything like that. It's just a lot of fun. And the Wayne and Garth characters are just infinitely likable. Even when Wayne kind of pisses everybody off and then quickly has to like make up up with, with Garth and with Cassandra, whatever, he's able to do it because they're just likable characters. Yeah. And that's, and that's a good thing for comedy like this to have. Um, I, you know, it's not perfect. There's definitely like, you know, parts of it are a little like, okay, that was kind of dumb. And we skipped over a couple things. There was like, uh, they opened a door at Stan McKeen's once, a bunch of special forces guys like training, but it's kind of like, that's weird. Okay, kind of funny, but like, whatever. Um, so yeah, I'm a 4 out of 5 on Wayne's World. I think this was a lot of fun. I really enjoyed it. It's definitely something that has stuck with me, but I can't really go higher than a 4 just on like basic kind of how good is the movie kind of thing. Like, it's a really enjoyable time, but like as a film, like, it doesn't, you know, garner kind of more praise for me than that. So I'm a 4 out of 5 on Wayne's World.

Nic

That's, that's solid. Yeah, and, and I'm with you on, uh, the likability of the characters. It makes such a difference to be able to just like, hey, I'm signing up to hang out with these guys for an hour and a half, and I'm okay with that because, you know, it's fun to be part of Wayne's World. It's fun to tune in and watch the sketch and all that stuff. And this movie really created a whole world around them, um, a Wayne's World, hey, you might say. Uh, no, but this— and they did enough, like we said, that they made a sequel to this that's also very good that came out like a year later or 2 years later. So less than 2 years, I mean, just banged it out. So there was a lot of material here. All the choices for the The side characters I think were funny. I think they were well placed. A lot of times with big comedies, you'll see them kind of shoehorning in a cameo of someone just to show you the person, but you're just like, yeah, but they're not funny.

Steve

I don't give a fuck.

Nic

You know, if you just put like Conor McGregor, just some random famous asshole in a movie to be like, yeah, why, why do we do that? Um, and they didn't really do that here. They had very skilled actors down to the small parts. I mean, Ed O'Neill as such a minuscule part there, you know. Laura Flynn Boyle is such a small part. Um, I'm with you on the rating. I'm gonna give Wayne's World a 4 out of 5. It goes very quickly, it's very fun, the music is good, quite good. Yeah, and especially if you're into that type of music, it's a good, good collection. Um, Tia Carrere doing her own singing. Yeah, gets a lot of points. So yeah, nothing wrong with Wayne's World. One of the best SNL movies we had.

Steve

Sure.

Nic

And probably of the '80s and '90s. Yeah, top, top 3.

Steve

Yeah, for sure.

Nic

Loved it.

Steve

Excellent.

Nic

4 out of 5 for Wayne's World.

Steve

8 out of 10 from the 2 Dads on Wayne's World. That doesn't surprise me at all. Uh, so we're gonna move on now to 1993, and that is your pick, Nic. What are we watching for '93?

Nic

1993, uh, we are going to a movie that I have seen so many times. I think at one point I could probably do a decent job of just reciting the movie from beginning to end, just like knowing every part of it. Um, and we're taking a departure from comedy, although this is one— like, sometimes you watch something enough that it becomes a comedy even if it's not a comedy, right? So you just like, you get attached to certain things and it's funny.

Steve

I feel that way about Predator, for the record.

Nic

Yeah, exactly. Um, but, but I'm interested to see how this one comes off. We're, we're gonna go to Compton, California, 1993, and Uh, we're gonna see what the Hughes brothers have to show us in 1993's Menace to Society.

Steve

Nice.

Nic

Um, this is one that I saw a ton in college, and, uh, it is actually, you know, came out I think a couple years after Boyz n the Hood. I think Boyz n the Hood might have been '91 or so, but there was this whole run of this type of movie. They were kind of like hood movie to various degrees of success.

Steve

Colors, yeah.

Nic

Yeah, and some were very, um, some were very successful, some were very exploitative, some were very cheesily done and everything. So I think this is one of the better ones, and I'm very interested to see how it holds up under some analysis. I think it's definitely worth seeing as like a relic of the time. And, uh, yeah, I look forward to chatting with you about it next week. 1993'S Menace to Society.

Steve

That's awesome. I've never seen Menace to Society. All right, it'd be interesting for me. I've seen, I've seen Boyz n the Hood, I've seen Higher Learning, I've seen New Jack City, like all kind of in the, in similar ballparks, I feel like, in a lot of ways. But yeah, but this one's new to me. So that's going to be exciting. Very, very excited to watch Menace to Society for the first time. All right. That's a wrap. So if you like what you hear, please consider heading over to Apple or Spotify and leaving us a 5-star review. It helps new folks find the show. Be sure to check out our website at 2dads1movie.com. That's the number 2 and the number 1. There you can explore the movies we've covered, sign up for our newsletter, The Rewind, and even get sneak previews of upcoming episodes. We'd also love it if you followed us on Instagram, TikTok, and Bluesky @2Dads1Movie. Once again, this has been Wayne's World, another episode of 2 Dads 1 Movie. I'm Steve.

Nic

And I'm Nic.

Steve

Thank you so much for listening. Party on, and we'll catch you next week.

Nic

Thanks everyone.